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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62 View Post
    Stem length is a compromise.
    Descending shorter is always better. 50mm rocks on the HD
    Climbing longer tends to be better, as it allows more weight up front.
    I am not much of a climber so I rock a 50. Another guy, same height and weight may hate it as he wouldn't like the climbing position.

    Personally I would not go longer than a 70 unless there are significant bike fit issues and saying that I would stress that I made the mistake of thinking I could make a med fit me by putting a longer stem on. Get the right size frame, and having been through the process I would say that I prefer a larger frame with a short stem/wide bars than a med with a longer stem.
    If you don't mind me asking, what is your height and inseam?
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    5 ft 10/11. 33 in seam and 185lb. Large Mojo HD 50mm stem 710 bars (would like a touch wider- New Year project)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62 View Post
    5 ft 10/11. 33 in seam and 185lb. Large Mojo HD 50mm stem 710 bars (would like a touch wider- New Year project)
    Ah ok. At your height a large is perfect for you.

    I'm right in between since I am 5'8.5" barefoot (5'9" with shoes) and 31" inseam. I chose a medium and will probably have to use a 70-90mm stem. I demoed a large and although the toptube felt right, the bike overall felt big, I guess due to the longish seattube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62 View Post
    Don't get me wrong, love my BOS but they are not as stiff as a Lyrik, so I find that test odd.
    Yours are tapered ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwan View Post
    Any more pics of the white one on the right with the custom decals / spray job.
    Here they are, remember JMB helmet back in 1990 or 91 ?





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    Nice decal set!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62 View Post
    Funny. I thought the 55 EVO Ti was one of the best forks I'd ever ridden.

    Don't get me wrong, love my BOS but they are not as stiff as a Lyrik, so I find that test odd.

    All I need to do now is save the money for a BOS shock!
    Did try a taperred shaft with BOS? This is important because they commented that with the introduction of the tapered shaft the forks stiffness improved considerably.

    The stiffness tests are run on a betch testing the forks breaking and turn stiffness. Results were as follows:

    Break Stiffness Nm/:

    BOS = 247.8
    Fox = 239.5
    Lyrik = 253.1

    Turn Stiffness Nm/:

    BOS = 30.1
    Fox 26.8
    Lyrik 29.1

    So much for the numbers, but at the end of the day if anyone has either one of these forks they will be well served only if set-up correctly.

    Like I said, my Fox 160 rocks....

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    Interesting. No mine are std 1 1/8th.
    Working well for me so unlikely to change them anytime soon

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    I use a bos 170 tapered on my hd and 36s on some of my other bikes (1/1.8). The fox do feel a bit stiffer but sometimes that can be a bad thing. The bos provide a bit more compliance and traction in certain corners. Whereas before I've washed out with the fox on the same corner the bos hanged in there.
    This may be down to the damping on the bos which is fan-blumming-tastic!
    Stationary or car park tests don't do the bos justice in having a feel of what they are like. It's when you're out on the trail nailing it when the bos come alive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by V.P. View Post
    Nice decal set!
    Sorry ????????

    It's a paint job, no stickers here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Totally agree with the tapered shaft on Bos Forks above 140mms, you need it !
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    hey, thats my bike...wait, the crank is different.....haha...nice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by robnow View Post
    24.6 lbs (sans pedals) on a medium...WOW!!!, and except for the Edge carbon rims and stem, a pretty typical build.

    Does anyone know if these are the '11 Formula Ones? Haven't seen the reach adjusters in any pic before and have some on order.
    those are 2010 formulas the one

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    Quote Originally Posted by ED young master View Post
    Sorry ????????

    It's a paint job, no stickers here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Nice

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    Custom Paint Job

    Quote Originally Posted by ED young master View Post
    Here they are, remember JMB helmet back in 1990 or 91 ?
    Nice!
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    [QUOTE=ED young master;8825722]Here they are, remember JMB helmet back in 1990 or 91 ?





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    One of the coolest mojos I've seen. How did you get that done? And, is the HD specific MRP guide or a regular lopes sl guide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aappling72 View Post
    One of the coolest mojos I've seen. How did you get that done? And, is the HD specific MRP guide or a regular lopes sl guide?
    Sorry this one's not mine, it belongs to a friend.

    The paint job was done by a pro, he also does helmets, jetskis etc ...
    And I think it's the MRP HD model, but not sure about that, since those pics it was broken & replaced.
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    One more ... with a Deville & carbon protections.

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    Do you know what size the Fat Albert is on the front? 2.4" or 2.25"?

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    I have commented on this until now because I have been overcome by its awesomeness!

    Quote Originally Posted by ED young master View Post
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    My first Ibis:

    Large HD
    Fox Float 180
    Fox RC4
    XTR Shifters
    XTR Shadow Plus Rear D
    XTR Brakes
    Race Face SIXc crankset
    Haven Wheelset
    Haven Carbon bar
    Haven Stem
    Reverb Seatpost
    Fizik Tundra 2 saddle
    Twenty6 flats with Ti spindle

    Weighs in at just over 30lbs. It should be under 30 once I go tubeless and switch to a Ti spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender90 View Post
    My first Ibis]
    Oh, that's beautiful! Love the crank / pedal combination, looks awesome.

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    DENFENDER90... Love the bike!!! How does she ride? up? down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsolorza View Post
    DENFENDER90... Love the bike!!! How does she ride? up? down?
    Thanks! I've only had the opportunity to complete one short ride on the bike with minimal ups and downs; however, I will say it's climbs extremely well and descends as expected. The front end popped up a couple of times on a steep climb, but considering the combination of STA, 180mm fork, and HTA, it really isn't that surprising. A Talas fork would work well in mitigating that problem as well as better technique on my part, but my original intent was more of a gravity oriented bike as I have a Cannondale Jekyll Ultimate that I normally pedal. That being said, my short outing with the HD will certainly reduce my time on the Jekyll regardless of the trail type.

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    Great to hear! I just sold my 160 float and I'm getting a 180... Will go with the RC4 in the spring... Love the build!!!

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    ... and if we just ... my HD now more Heavy Duty

    My HD140 has turned into an HD160, and its a bit more Heavy Duty now thats for sure!

    The changes?
    + Ibis "Reverse Limbo Chips"
    + 170mm Marzocchi 66 RC2X (2005 or 2006's, the last of the great Italian Marz's)
    + Rockshox Vivid 5.1 coil (mid/B-tune)
    + Burgtec RideWider bars (15mm low rise, 780mm wide, 310g)
    + Shimano I-spec mounts (mounts the shifters to brake lever clamps)
    .... DH tyres also to be added (probably 2.5 Minions or Highrollers that I've got lying around)
    ...chain retention device also on the cards...

    Weight with this setup is, well, a lot heavier than my 150F/140R setup! Maybe about 14kg/30-31lbs? (about 2kg/4.0-4.5lbs heavier than in HD140 guise). Thats before the DH tyres go on... Weight is not that much of a concern really as this is my DH/park setup, and I tried not to spend much as its likely to be in HD140 guise 90% of the time anyway. Besides, around 14.5kg/31-32lbs isn't that bad for a bike with these capabilities.

    Ok, some crappy phone pix for now...







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