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    Quote Originally Posted by Hose Dragger

    Sick bike man

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    Did you tape up the chainstay before you wrapped the tube over it?
    I read that heat and moisture can cause the clearcoat to go opague.

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    Just for giggles - maybe include the serial number with each pic?

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    Took mine out for the first time yesterday.... It was good.



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    Looks Awesome! How does it handle with the 170mm Lyrik DH?

    I'm trying to find a Coil U-turn and install the DH damper in it, but the U-turns are really hard to find right now. I'm not sure what route I will go if I can't get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scepticshock
    Looks Awesome! How does it handle with the 170mm Lyrik DH?
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    Pretty well. I had a regular mojo last year and have been riding my SS 29er all spring so the handling seems dramatically different to me. It felt a little floppy, but I think that will be overcome quickly as I get used to the bike.

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    Floppy sensation is gone. Just needed a little viagra... err..... time to get used to things. Handles great.


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    Good to hear! I finally got a coil U-turn coming and will have the DH Damper put in for the ultimate all mountain machine. I'll post pics when I have it built up next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scot Nicol
    If you're one of the lucky few who've received an HD, the custom MRP/Ibis Mini G chainguide is now in the store, right about here.
    We don't have a retrofit kit for the Mojo and Mojo SL yet, but we are working on it. Sorry, no ETA yet.
    Once things settle down a bit, we're also hoping to have some dual ring and other chainguide availability info.


    When is somebody going to design a guide for three-ring bikes? They are definitely needed, I wasn't happy at all about giving up the big ring for the bash but had no real choice, the chain kept coming off on the downs. Now I just spin out and coast.

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    put a bigger middle ring on if you're spinning out.

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    24-36 is what I am using, I suppose I could go to a 40 or even a 42 but thee spread between the two is huge already. something to try though. But seriously, there is a need for a 3 ring chain guide out here because the bikes are now capable climbers as well as descenders. my 2c

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    A 36T chainring combined with the 11T on the cassette should have you covered past 25 MPH if you can hit a fast cadence (according to the Sheldon Brown gear calculator). Do you really need to pedal past that point? Maybe an adjustment in you riding style would solve the issue. I usually stop pedalling and switch between holding an aero position and pumping the terrain as necessary at those speeds. Just an idea. I know that doesn't work for everyone...

    If you really want a 3-ring chain guide and bash, maybe you should try to design one yourself. Turning sweet ideas in to sweeter products is always a good thing IMO. Or maybe one of the new SRAM 2x10 cranks combined with a Blackspire Stinger would do the trick. The XX comes in a 28 x 42 combo. You won't have a bash anymore to protect you leg and chainring though.


    Your post has me very curious about something. My friends on VPP and Maestro bikes seem to have all kinds of trouble keeping chains on the chainrings when riding rough trails unless they put on a Stinger or something similar. Is dropping chains something inherent to dual link suspension designs? I routinely ride rough terrain and go off big drops with my Diamondback Mission (traditional 4 bar). My cranks are the SLX double 22/36/bash without any chain retention devices, but I've only dropped my chain a couple times that I noticed. The FD seems to be enough to keep the chain where it belongs on my bike. Or am I just lucky?

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    I think you are just lucky. The guys I ride with on VPP, single pivot, four bar etc all drop their chains with equal frequency when the going gets rough - except those with chain guides.

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    Here my new Vitamin P !
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    Nice! Have you bought it at the bike festival in Willingen? Or where has this picture been taken?

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    Picked up my HD last week

    Ordered this bike in March and since it was taking so long, was lucky enough to get the 2011 Talas. Rides great and gets me up the trails the Mojo SL did when I was test riding. The new 180mm fork has about the same axle to crown as the 160mm Lyrik, due to the fork extending past the axle and the new crown. Together with the flush headset helps also to keep the HA up.
    Still have not ridden the bike in the 180mm mode but can tell you at 140mm this fork feels stiffer than my Fox 40. Really looking forward to putting the guide and flats on this bike in a couple of weeks once I have everything else dialed in.
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    Now that is a nice one. I'd emulate yours pretty much. GJ.
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    I am dying to know how it rides in 180, I want to go 180 but wish the talas had a 160 stop as well just in case it is to slack?

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    There's a review for the HD at BikeRadar.com. Here's the link: http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...ustom-10-39369

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black RONIN
    There's a review for the HD at BikeRadar.com. Here's the link: http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...ustom-10-39369
    24.6 lbs (sans pedals) on a medium...WOW!!!, and except for the Edge carbon rims and stem, a pretty typical build.

    Does anyone know if these are the '11 Formula Ones? Haven't seen the reach adjusters in any pic before and have some on order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robnow
    24.6 lbs (sans pedals) on a medium...WOW!!!, and except for the Edge carbon rims and stem, a pretty typical build.

    Does anyone know if these are the '11 Formula Ones? Haven't seen the reach adjusters in any pic before and have some on order.
    Yes, this is the most promising review so far, although a bit too promising, 11,160g is very, VERY light, even without pedals. Can't argue on the spec though, only top of the top stuff - those EDGE rims and cockpit just made me feel pretty sad... Anyway, what matters is the review itself, and that was what I was waiting for. My SL is now for sale!

    On the The Ones, they look pretty much the same as the current version to me, missing only a few extra touches - maybe a different version, FR or DH?



    EDIT: I wonder if the whole spec on the test bike is an "official" kit offered by Ibis. If so, I'm all over it. Bike Radar says: "Ibis delivered our Mojo HD tester with a bevy of high-end optional upgrades, including the aforementioned Joplin 4 seatpost and Edge Composites bar and stem, plus matching Edge AM carbon rims laced to Chris King through-axle hubs, and Shimano's latest Deore XT Dyna-Sys 10-speed group." Hans, do you mind?
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    24.6 must have been a typo because it now says 27.99 which sounds more realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black RONIN
    I wonder if the whole spec on the test bike is an "official" kit offered by Ibis. If so, I'm all over it. Bike Radar says: "Ibis delivered our Mojo HD tester with a bevy of high-end optional upgrades, including the aforementioned Joplin 4 seatpost and Edge Composites bar and stem, plus matching Edge AM carbon rims laced to Chris King through-axle hubs, and Shimano's latest Deore XT Dyna-Sys 10-speed group." Hans, do you mind?
    I saw that too so called to inquire, nope, the Edge stuff is not a spec upgrade on their build kits, they are not carrying any Edge components.

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    Aren't they like $2300?
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    If that were my bike, I would wish I had died in the crash. That is an expensive breakage.

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    I'm pretty sure that's a Canfield Jedi. No surprise that a carbon AM rim ended up getting trashed on a bike like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yody
    my XL Mojo SL came in at 5.75 pounds. Numbers don't match up
    I saw an XL HD frame only on a scale today, 6.7lbs on the dot. It did have the rear Maxle in it which could account for some weight, but I would guess that to be minimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan51
    I saw an XL HD frame only on a scale today, 6.7lbs on the dot. It did have the rear Maxle in it which could account for some weight, but I would guess that to be minimal.
    Now that sounds believable, thats still not that much heavier, but def way more realistic. My old XL stumpjumper Sworks with carbon front frame and aluminum rear traingle was 6.6ilbs and that was only 120mm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by greasemeat
    Aren't they like $2300?
    Guess that's not good... more like a critical hit in my confidence, I definitelly wanted to give them a try... But didn't know they cost that much though. Well, maybe stick with my trusty Flows a little longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black RONIN
    Yes, this is the most promising review so far, although a bit too promising, 11,160g is very, VERY light, even without pedals. Can't argue on the spec though, only top of the top stuff - those EDGE rims and cockpit just made me feel pretty sad... Anyway, what matters is the review itself, and that was what I was waiting for. My SL is now for sale!

    On the The Ones, they look pretty much the same as the current version to me, missing only a few extra touches - maybe a different version, FR or DH?



    EDIT: I wonder if the whole spec on the test bike is an "official" kit offered by Ibis. If so, I'm all over it. Bike Radar says: "Ibis delivered our Mojo HD tester with a bevy of high-end optional upgrades, including the aforementioned Joplin 4 seatpost and Edge Composites bar and stem, plus matching Edge AM carbon rims laced to Chris King through-axle hubs, and Shimano's latest Deore XT Dyna-Sys 10-speed group." Hans, do you mind?
    The 2010 The Ones lost the knobs and the contact adjustments. You need a tool for the reach now. I guess it'a all to save weight. I'm breaking in a pair on my HD right now. So far so good! I went with e 180/160.

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    has anyone rode an hd with the fox 180 yet. I am dying to know how it rides.... I know the axel to crown

    180mm FOX36 has a 565mm axle to crown
    160mm FOX36 has a 545mm axle to crown

    which looks the same ass the domain from what I can find.

    Domain 160: 545mm
    Domain 180: 565mm

    But that new talas looks perfect since you can crank it down for the climbs... too bad there is no mid 160 stop, I think that would be nice for this bikes geometry....... however I have read the frame will support the 180, and 20mm is not too much of an increase. Also, I know it is an exceptional light fork for its travel ect. However, those 20 mm quite a bit more weight... 4.65 for the 160 and 5.37 for the 180 in the TALAS...... I dont suppose that is all that much more than the 2010 160 but has anyone had a chance to ride both and see if the weight difference is noticeable. I guess I pretty much just want to know if anyone is riding it and how it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black RONIN
    There's a review for the HD at BikeRadar.com. Here's the link: http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...ustom-10-39369
    I would generally agree with the review. I am surprised at how agile the bike is. It did really great on some super tight trails that would be more fitting for an XC bike. I attribute this to the generally shorter wheel base it has to some of my previous bikes. Climbs like a monkey too.

    "Taut" rear suspension compared to horst link? Maybe. I'm still dialing in my rear shock.

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    Here she is!!! The one and only one...Matte Carbon HD.

    28.5 lbs in XL sans pedals, this is the XT build as comes from Ibis now(Dyna-Sys and '11 Talas) and still waiting on some swaps including Formulas "The Ones", Joplin, and chain guide. My lbs was cool enough to supply the full kit for now while we're waiting for the rest.

    So stoked!!!! just too bad it starts to rain just as I get home.

    Won't lie, I wish I could afford the "Kashima" Talas for a little more bling but for the extra cost it just wasn't justifiable. Little bland now but looking forward to upgrading parts as it goes.
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    She's a beauty! I gotta post mine up soon.

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    Thats a site to behold! Must have.......

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    In reply to the ride of the 2011 Talas. Super stiff fork with good geometry and head angle on the way up the hill. Its adjustable on the fly both up to 180 (just lift the front wheel) and down to 140 and touching the front brake gets it down quickly.
    Feels fantastic on the uphills now that I have a few rides under my belt, including multiple runs up "cardiac bypass" which was a struggle on my stumpjumper and other steep rides. The bike is quick and nimble on the technical uphill and long enough top tube to make your weight distribution count.
    Setting the fork to 180 sure feels nice, but is a huge change going from sitting over the front end to sitting back on the recliner. To be honest for the trails I have ridden to date the 180 is not needed and 140 would be fine - 160mm would be great. But I intend to put the guide on this bike and platforms to ride the local steeper trails and maybe the lower portion of the bike park. Thats when the 180mm will be used.

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    Rob, how much more for the Kashima coating? One thing that caught my attention is that the black on the Talas seems to be a very dark and glossy black, more like a Lyrik, very different from the black on the old vanillas, so it really made the bike look stronger on the front - and I was pretty tired of the boring titanium grey on the Talas actually.

    Anyway, never thought the black would be this bad ass - I knew it would, but not this much! Definitelly the finest HD build so far. Congratulations!

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    TALAS Kashima coating is ~$100 more than regular coating

    Quote Originally Posted by Black RONIN
    Rob, how much more for the Kashima coating?
    I just ordered my Mojo HD today! Delivery will (hopefully) be sometime in August...just in time for my vacation in Tahoe! Can't wait!

    I went with the X-9 build (Matte with RED links), and switched out the Lyric for a 2011 160 TALAS RC with the Kashima Coat.

    The 2011 Talas 160 RC with Kashima coat upgrade was ~$550 total.
    **NOTE: this is $100 MORE than the 2010 TALAS upgrade that is currently listed on the Ibis website.

    FYI - I got this info from the owner of the LBS today when I bought my Mojo HD:
    It is my understanding that Fox is not supplying the Kashima coat forks on any new floor stock "complete bikes" that get shipped to a LBS. This is supposedly true for ALL bike manufacturers. In order to get the Kashima coat you have to ask the LBS to switch it out (as I did), or go with a custom build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdcatch
    I just ordered my Mojo HD today! Delivery will (hopefully) be sometime in August...just in time for my vacation in Tahoe! Can't wait!

    I went with the X-9 build (Matte with RED links), and switched out the Lyric for a 2011 160 TALAS RC with the Kashima Coat.

    The 2011 Talas 160 RC with Kashima coat upgrade was ~$550 total.
    **NOTE: this is $100 MORE than the 2010 TALAS upgrade that is currently listed on the Ibis website.

    FYI - I got this info from the owner of the LBS today when I bought my Mojo HD:
    It is my understanding that Fox is not supplying the Kashima coat forks on any new floor stock "complete bikes" that get shipped to a LBS. This is supposedly true for ALL bike manufacturers. In order to get the Kashima coat you have to ask the LBS to switch it out (as I did), or go with a custom build.
    So does that mean Ibis provides the Kashima Fox to the shop or does the Fox distributor?

    When figuring all this out with my LBS it would have been ~$400 difference because the Fox would have had to have been obtained through the Canadian Fox distributor and then an Ibis build kit would have been more expensive without the fork included. However the price discrepency might be coming from the fact that we're in Canada and the distributor here charges WAY more for Fox.

    For $100 I would have made that switch for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robnow
    So does that mean Ibis provides the Kashima Fox to the shop or does the Fox distributor?
    It is my understanding that my Fox TALAS w/ Kashima coat will come from Fox, not Ibis.

    My LBS told me today that all of the bike manufacturers (Ibis, Santa Cruz, Specialized, etc.) will not be shipping their "build kits" with Kashima coat forks. So, in order to get the Kashima coat you need to ask your LBS to do a substitution, or go with a custom build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdcatch
    switched out the Lyric for a 2011 160 TALAS RC with the Kashima Coat.
    The 2011 Talas 160 RC with Kashima coat upgrade was ~$550 total.
    whoa, you can get a second top of the line Rockshox fork for that price (ex: revelation adjustatble 150mm maxle light). Hard the beleive a Talas would be >2x better

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    The guys at Passion got my new HD going this weekend and here are a couple of pics from its first ride. So far the bike is great, planning on testing it, up in the Sierras this coming weekend.
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    Mine :

    Frame: Large, white with red links with RP23, have a Push MX tune VanR I may get retuned for this frame as well.
    Fork: 2009 Float RC2
    Headset: CC110 mixed - red
    Wheels: DT Swiss EX1750
    Drivetrain: XO shifters and r. der, SLX 2-ring front, XT everything else i.e. all business, E13 DRS Turbo (no matter what DW says, I had to do a ton of grinding to get it to fit right)
    Seat post: KS I950R - super stoked on this! Like it way more than the Joplins, GD's and AMP's I've had or played with.
    Brakes: Formula Oro K24's with sintered pads, 185/160, soon to be 185/185
    Cockpit: Thomson 70mm, Sunline low rise wide bars
    Tires: 2.5 DHF EXO single ply front, Specy Chunder 2-bliss rear (high roller knock off, but more volume and dual tread compound, nice tire actually, soon to be DHF 2.5 EXO though)
    Pedals: Kona Wah Wah, set for upgrade soon... these just won't die though

    Pretty happy with it so far. Better than my Intense SS with similar build in every way...except maybe un-manned cartwheeling through rock gardens... but we'll see...
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    Nice deck

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    Yeah haha, 2yrs old & mine is dried out, creakin & groanin.. should stop washing the bike on it I guess
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    Candy Cane Mojo HD

    Quote Originally Posted by Bortis Yelltzen
    Mine :

    Frame: Large, white with red links with RP23, have a Push MX tune VanR I may get retuned for this frame as well.
    Wheels: DT Swiss EX1750

    Pretty stoked on it so far. Better than my Intense SS with similar build in every way...except maybe un-manned cartwheeling through rock gardens... but we'll see...
    Pretty sweet Bortimus.

    Where did you get such a sweet wheelset? Probably from someone somewhat flexy and mildly All Mountain.

    We will all miss the trials and tribulations of you skippering the SS Boat Anchor.
    However, I officially dub your Mojo HD the Candy Striper.

    Bortis' has been out riding the Candy Striper again. I doubt he'll want to go out afterwards as he'll be spent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    Pretty sweet Bortimus.

    Where did you get such a sweet wheelset? Probably from someone somewhat flexy and mildly All Mountain.
    Some dumbass I know went on this hardtail twenty-giner kick early in the season, so he blew out two sets of these wheels. Mr. Welcorn got the "pristine" set and I got the "beat" set with cracked front axle and mildly out of true rear wheel for a rediculous price. Dude even gave me a new front axle and bearings so all I had to do was press out the old one and drop in the new one. I guess it worked out for him though, he got a deal on some Haven's that are pretty slick. Dude is definitely "All-Mountain" though...

    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    We will all miss the trials and tribulations of you skippering the SS Boat Anchor.
    I won't.

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    Nice Deck
    Funny thing is while I was building the HD the girlfried was staining said deck. It was all dry and nasty, amazing what 3 coats of stain will do...

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    ibis mojo HD

    i've had it for a couple weeks now and really enjoying it. when i get my legs back in shape i might go 1x9 with chain guide.
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    Here's mine. Just got done building it. Tomorrow it will see dirt.
    For comparison is a pic of my regular Mojo.
    Both are XL.
    HD has 60mm stem, Mojo has 70mm.
    HD Lyrik @ 160, Mojo has Revelation @ 150.

    Remaining part spec is almost identical.
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    That's awesome! Is that the XL that was at Trailhead for a while?

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