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    IBIS Mojo build thread

    For those unfamiliar with the company, http://www.ibiscycles.com/

    Long story short, it's a brand new DW-link designed MTB with carbon frame on 5.5" of travel front and rear.

    These should start shipping July 15-30.

    How are you configuring your bike?

    The frame uses an IS headset (no CK!) and a 31.6 seatpost.

    I decided to go full-custom and am still deciding on some of the parts, but I think I almost have a plan of action...

    Currently planning:

    Still a work in progress.

    Currently planning on:
    Fox 32 Talas '07 RLC
    '06 SRAM X.0 trigger
    XTR '06 960/'07 970 crank + integrated BB
    XTR '06 M961/'07 M971 F. Derailleur
    XTR '06 M960/'07 M970 Casette...still considering SRAM.
    '06 SRAM X.0 R. Derailleur, long cage
    FSA Orbit IS Carbon headset
    Thompson Elite X4 oversize stem
    Monkeylite XC carbon oversize 31.8 bars
    ODI ruffian lockon grips
    A Thompson masterpiece post
    WTB Laser V Stealth seat
    SRAM PC-991...probably just the basic version here...
    Lizard Skin chainstay protection
    Nokon red shifter cables
    Kenda 2.35 BG DTC front / Kenda 2.1 Nevagal DTC rear
    Salsa skewers

    Waiting for:
    Juicy Ultimate '07 - nice one piece caliper, adjustment, etc...The Juicy 7's are already avail...I'm torn.
    '07 XTR? I just hate the idea of the '06 proprietary cranks, but they are on closeout and cheap.
    '07 SRAM X.0 ??? Not sure I need to wait on this.

    Already rec'd:
    Industry Nine Enduro Wheels on DT 5.1d's 3 degree, tape
    Frame

    -Mark
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    Good thread Mark. I decided to go with the SL kit. I was going to go custom, but the spec really impressed me, as did the complete bike weight. (or maybe I'm just getting lazy!) Anyway, Tom Morgan emailed me the following specs a few months back (one major change is that they will ship with the 07 Fox RP23 and 07' Float!

    Rear Derailleur
    Shimano
    REAR DERAILLEUR, XTR(98N) RD-M952 SGS 9-SPEED DIRECT ATTACHMENT BULK

    Front Derailleur
    Shimano
    FRONT DERAILLEUR, XTR(02) FD-M961 DOWN-SWING DUAL-PULL 34.9MM BAND, CS-ANGLE: 66-69, BULK

    Headset
    FSA
    Orbit IS, ACB w/25mm Custom Cone Spacer Option (H2088D)

    Cranks
    Shimano
    FRONT CHAINWHEEL, XTR(02) FC-M960 TWO PIECE TYPE CRANK, INCLUDE BBPARTS, HOLLOWTECH 175MM 44X32X24T, W/O CG, W/TL-FC16 & FC32, BULK

    Brakes
    Hayes
    HFX 9 Carbon V6 rotor (160mm) Silver w/carbon (Int'l std or post mount)

    Brakes
    Hayes
    HFX 9 Carbon V6 rotor (160mm) Silver w/carbon (Int'l std or post mount)

    Shift Levers
    Shimano
    XT Shifter Pod Left

    Shift Levers
    Shimano
    XT Shifter Pod Right

    Cassette
    Shimano
    CASSETTE SPROCKET, XTR(02) CS-M960 9-SPEED TI/NI-P COATED 11-13-15-17-20-23-26-30-34T(AS), BULK

    Chain
    Shimano
    XT CN-HG93 9 spd

    H/Bar
    Easton
    MonkeyLite XC CNT 26" 660mm Lo UD 31.8

    Stem
    Ibis
    Stem 120mm Ext., 31.8 Bar/28.6 Steerer Clamps 124g 7075, SB BLK ANODIZED W/O Logo

    Seat Post
    Easton
    EC90 Zero CNT 31.6 300mm Weave

    Saddle
    fi'zi:k
    Aliante Gamma Black leather Titanium black

    Grips
    VELO
    PP+FIBER BLACK/GEL BLACK + ALUM CLAMP 130MM

    Wheels
    Easton
    XC1 Wheelset

    Tires
    Hutchinson
    BULLDOG AIR LIGHT-26x2.30/33 FB-Black

    Tires
    Hutchinson
    BULLDOG AIR LIGHT-26x2.30/33 FB-Black

    Tubes
    Maxxis
    Ultralight 26x1.90/2.125 Presta

    Tubes
    Maxxis
    Ultralight 26x1.90/2.125 Presta

    Fork
    Fox
    Float RLC

    Shock
    Fox
    Float RP3 **

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    Here are the specs I rec'd from Tom this week. He said he would update the specs on the website soon as well.

    MTB SL:

    Rear DerailleurShimano REAR DERAILLEUR, XTR(98N) RD-M952 SGS 9-SPEED DIRECT ATTACHMENT BULK
    Front Derailleur ShimanoFRONT DERAILLEUR, XTR(02) FD-M961 DOWN-SWING DUAL-PULL 34.9MM BAND
    Headset FSAOrbit IS, ACB w/25mm Custom Cone Spacer Option (H2088D)
    Cranks ShimanoFRONT CHAINWHEEL, XTR(02) FC-M960 INC. BB PARTS, HOLLOWTECH 175MM 44X32X24T,
    Brakes HayesHFX 9 Carbon V6 rotor (160mm) Silver w/carbon (Int'l std or post mount)
    Brakes HayesHFX 9 Carbon V6 rotor (160mm) Silver w/carbon (Int'l std or post mount)
    Shift LeversShimanoXT Shifter Pod Left
    Shift LeversShimanoXT Shifter Pod Right
    Cassette ShimanoCASSETTE SPROCKET, XTR(02) CS-M960 9-SPEED TI/NI-P COATED 11-13-15-17-20-23-26-30-34T(AS), BULK
    Chain ShimanoXT CN-HG93 9 spd
    H/Bar EastonMonkeyLite XC CNT 26" 660mm Lo UD 31.8StemIbis
    Stem 120mm Ext., 31.8 Bar/28.6 Steerer Clamps 7075, SB BLK ANODIZED W/O Logo
    Seat PostEastonEC90 Zero CNT 31.6 300mm Weave
    Saddle fi'zi:kAliante Gamma Black leather Titanium black
    Grips VELOPP+FIBER BLACK/GEL BLACK + ALUM CLAMP 130MM
    Wheels EastonXC1 Wheelset
    Tires KendaNevegal DTC - 26 x 2.1
    Tires KendaNevegal DTC - 26 x 2.1
    Tubes MaxxisUltralight 26x1.90/2.125Presta
    Tubes MaxxisUltralight 26x1.90/2.125Presta
    Fork FoxFloat RLCShockFoxFloat RP23 **

    MTB SX:

    Rear DerailleurSRAMX-9 Rear derailleur long cage
    Front Derailleur SRAMX-Gen Front derailleur / silver / diam 34.9 / top pull
    Cranks FSANew Afterburner MegaExo, Hollow Forged, Alloy Spider, 68/73mm BB 175mm Length x 104/64mm BCD x 44/32/22
    Headset FSAOrbit IS, ACB w/25mm Custom Cone Spacer Option (H2088D)
    'Brakes HayesHFX 9 V6 rotor (160mm) Black or Grey (Int'l std or Post mount)
    Brakes HayesHFX 9 V6 rotor (160mm) Black or Grey (Int'l std or Post mount)
    Shift Levers SRAMX-9 Trigger shifter front
    Shift Levers SRAMX-9 Trigger shifter 9-speed rear
    Cassette SRAMPG-970 MTB Cassette11-34
    Chain KMC1/2 X 11/128 X 110 LINKS SILVER/GRAY
    H/Bar IbisDH 31.8 AL-7075 T6 42mm Rise, 4 x 9 deg bend, 660 mm wide, SP Ano Blk, w/o Logo, 270g
    Stem Ibis Stem 120mm Ext., 31.8 Bar/28.6 Steerer Clamps 7075, SB BLK ANODIZED W/O Logo
    Seat Post Ibis31.6 x 350 L, 7075 SB BLK ANODIZED w/o Logo
    Saddle fi'zi:kAliante Gamma Black leather Titanium black
    WheelsMavicCROSSRIDE Silver, Pair - Int'l 6-Bolt
    Tires KendaNevegal DTC - 26 x 2.1
    Tires KendaNevegal DTC - 26 x 2.1
    Tubes Maxxis26x2.125Presta
    Tubes Maxxis26x2.125Presta
    GripsVELOPP+FIBER BLACK/GEL BLACK + ALUM CLAMP 130MM
    Fork FoxFloat RLShockFoxFloat RP23 **

    Regards, Mark
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    I'm glad to find this thread. I am interested to see people's builds and impressions when their frames arrive.

    I have a small Mojo coming (hopefully August).

    I like the Ibis SL build but decided I would go custom mainly because I want adjustable travel like the Talas (I do alot of climbing) and don't want an XTR crankset. Also I wasn't sure about the Easton wheelset. It's light, but is it good and can it be converted to tubeless? I don't know. I considered going with the Maverick DUC32 fork, but I contacted Maverick and they say it won't work as it needs a minimum 130mm headtube/headset stack height. So it may work on a large or x-large Mojo.

    I have a question about the FSA Orbit IS headset that is included with complete builds. The headset is readily available but not the 25mm Custom Cone Spacer. Will the Orbit IS work (or maybe Orbit Carbon IS with a 15mm spacer), or is there a unique installation requirement with the Mojo frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noshortcuts
    I'm glad to find this thread. I am interested to see people's builds and impressions when their frames arrive.

    I have a small Mojo coming (hopefully August).

    I like the Ibis SL build but decided I would go custom mainly because I want adjustable travel like the Talas (I do alot of climbing) and don't want an XTR crankset. Also I wasn't sure about the Easton wheelset. It's light, but is it good and can it be converted to tubeless? I don't know. I considered going with the Maverick DUC32 fork, but I contacted Maverick and they say it won't work as it needs a minimum 130mm headtube/headset stack height. So it may work on a large or x-large Mojo.

    I have a question about the FSA Orbit IS headset that is included with complete builds. The headset is readily available but not the 25mm Custom Cone Spacer. Will the Orbit IS work (or maybe Orbit Carbon IS with a 15mm spacer), or is there a unique installation requirement with the Mojo frame?
    What is this custom cone spacer? Is it just a top headset cup with a taller lip? So you don't have to use a spacer? My friend's cheapy Diamondback has this kind of headset, and I was planning on using an integrated headset for my Mojo.

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    Another question I have is what size bottom bracket? 68 or 73??

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    Quote Originally Posted by noshortcuts
    Another question I have is what size bottom bracket? 68 or 73??
    I don't know. Guess it never mattered since my bb/crank fits both 68 and 73mm (xt 760) via shell spacers.

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    from Scot

    Frame does not come with a headset.
    One is available for $50
    It will be either the FSA Orbit IS or the Cane Creek HSS0247- IS-2i
    So the Mojo uses the Integrated Standard.
    No special spacer or cup needed. The stock headset will work.
    Scot

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    OK, so it uses the Integrated Standard, but is it Campagnolo or Cane Creek Worldwide

    Maybe it is because I am new to integrated headsets, but Westin's answer from Scot confuses me more.

    Doesn't the designation IS-2i on the Cane Creek model signify the Campagnolo integrated standard http://www.canecreek.com/is-2.html and isn't that standard different than the "Cane Creek IS worldwide standard" used on the Cane Creek IS-2 (without an "i") and on the FSA Orbit IS headset. According to the Park Tool website, the two standards are not interchangable. http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=68

    I hope I am missing something here and it is not so complicated to understand the answer Scot gave.

    If the Cane Creek IS worldwide standard is what we want, then we should be able to use Cane Creek Solos IS, IS-2, IS-6, or IS-8..........RIGHT???

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    Howdy Boys: Yes you are right, the Mojo uses the Cane Creek IS Standard. And yes, any of those headsets will work.
    I gave Westin bad part number info on that Cane Creek headset, sorry about that. We were changing some spec and I made a boo boo. The actual part number is Cane Creek HSS0243- IS-2. No "i" at the end.
    Also note that the Ibis Road bike-the Silk Carbon-uses the Campy standard (which does have an "i" at the end.
    Also, to clarify one of the specs that Tom sent to someone above, the "custom cone spacer" we send out with the FSA is not really custom, that's just the word FSA used in their description.

    Thanks for the thread any for paying attention. We're redoing the website right now, and the new launch will have all this spec info, sorry it's not up there yet.

    Oh yes to answer the inevitable question of why we use two different headset standards, the Campy standard on the road bike allows those who want to build the bike up with a full Campy group to do so. And on the mountain bike, the IS headsets are a little more widely available.

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    now for bottom bracket dimensions

    Whew!,

    Finally, headsets on Mojos, clear as a bell. Thanks .


    Still going to need bottom bracket size: 68 or 73mm, 108 or 113mm?

    Scot? Anyone?
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    Talus Upgrade

    Noshortscuts,

    Tom from Ibis writing you. I wanted to note a couple of things for you:

    First, we plan on offering the Talus fork as an upgrade for roughly $100 retail.

    Second, I have been using the Easton wheels personly for a few months and have found them very reliable. It should be noted that I am on the north side of 200 lbs and ride with all the finesse of an elephant. The XC-1 wheels are not tubeless ready, but they should work with a Stan's kit. I haven't tried that yet, so I don't know for sure.

    Finally, the tooling for the small Mojo was the last to be completed - had some problems with the file transfer to the factory, and as a result will be the last size produced. Right now I would say September for the first delivery of the smalls.

    Thanks for supporting the new Ibis. I know that you're going to love Mojo when you get it.

    -Tom[/LIST]
    Quote Originally Posted by noshortcuts
    I'm glad to find this thread. I am interested to see people's builds and impressions when their frames arrive.

    I have a small Mojo coming (hopefully August).

    I like the Ibis SL build but decided I would go custom mainly because I want adjustable travel like the Talas (I do alot of climbing) and don't want an XTR crankset. Also I wasn't sure about the Easton wheelset. It's light, but is it good and can it be converted to tubeless? I don't know. I considered going with the Maverick DUC32 fork, but I contacted Maverick and they say it won't work as it needs a minimum 130mm headtube/headset stack height. So it may work on a large or x-large Mojo.

    I have a question about the FSA Orbit IS headset that is included with complete builds. The headset is readily available but not the 25mm Custom Cone Spacer. Will the Orbit IS work (or maybe Orbit Carbon IS with a 15mm spacer), or is there a unique installation requirement with the Mojo frame?

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    The bb is 68.
    The crank length depends on the crankset, XTR doesn't even spell out a length for us, as the spindle is attached to the arm.
    scot

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    Mojo in the house yet?

    Scott or Tom,
    Have the first batch of Mojos (medium or large) arrived from customs yet? Inquiring minds want to know.

    Thanks

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    They are en route, that's what we know now. Could be any second now, but we're at their mercy...

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    Dear Scoot,

    Quote Originally Posted by Scot Nicol
    They are en route, that's what we know now. Could be any second now, but we're at their mercy...
    Will my new Ibis Ti Alibi Recumbent 29'er be coming with this shipment as well? I paid you my sheckles so long ago...



    Love,
    Quiggly Down Under

    ps: Can't wait to see the new rigs!
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    Guys, let's try to keep this thread on topic. We need a separate thread titled "Where is my Mojo?" :-)

    How are you configuring your IBIS Mojo?

    We've learned the BB is 68mm, the headset is the Cane Creek IS Std, great...

    As you can see from my build, there were a few changes I wanted to make vs. SL:

    1. Talas...which I guess we can now get in a build...
    2. Avid ultimate brakes...
    3. I9 wheels
    4. SRAM trigger + XTR combo
    5. Saddle
    6. Post/Stem/Bar differences

    I'm still torn on Al post/bar vs. Carbon...Also, in the waiting game on the '07 XTR...may have to go with '06.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm REVISED (again) planned build, now complete me thinks

    Rear Derailleur: X.0
    Front Derailleur: FD-M961
    Headset: Cane Creek Solos CHANGE to: Token Carbon Omega C1, 20mm spacer
    Cranks: FSA Pro Team Carbon
    Bottom Bracket: FSA Platinum Pro MegaQuad Ti
    Brakes: Magura Marta SL
    Shift Levers: X.0 gripshift
    Cassette: XTR
    Chain: 991 hollowpin
    Pedals: PD-M540
    H/Bar: CHANGE to: Salsa Pro Moto Carbon Riser Handlebar 31.8
    Stem: Thomson X4
    Seat Post: Thomson setback
    Saddle: Fizik Nisene Ti
    Grips: Ruffian lockon gripshift length
    Wheels: CHANGE to: ZTR 355 with King ISO rear and Hope front and CXray spokes
    Tires: Kenda DTC Karma 2.0 rear and 2.2 front
    Tubes: NOT (Stan's)
    Fork: Pace RC41 Fighter
    Last edited by noshortcuts; 09-13-2006 at 11:02 AM. Reason: Plan has changed a bit

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    noshortcuts-

    1. Why Magura Marta SL vs. Avid Carbon / '07 Ultimate?
    2. Why Race Face Next SL vs. Monkey XC Carbon?
    3. Fizik Nisene vs. WTB Stealth ?
    4. FSA Pro Team Carbon vs. XTR...I assume it's the proprietary nonsense with Shimano? I'm also still considering FSA.
    5. How much weight do you save with the hollowpin? I was told the durability suffers...

    -Mark

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    Mark-

    1. Marta SL because I got a good deal (400) and they are very good and light brakes.
    2. Race Face because the SL is exremely light and strong and feels good.... and because the last Easton I bought was too large on one end. It took weeks of efforts to get Easton to reply as a warranty issue. (the Alpha Q is considered because it can be cut and take barends)
    3. fizik because I have one, it's held up, it's fairly light and it's comfortable for me.
    4. No XTR crank because rings are fairly soft and replacement rings are sooo expensive.... plus I got a new FSA for $190 and it gets good reviews.
    5. I don't know the weight savings on the hollowpin and don't have enough miles on one to have an opinion on durability.

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    I'm going with the Ibis designer SX build at first (with a shorter 80 to 90mm stem). I want to first see how Ibis wants the bike to ride and then swap some parts I have.

    I'll buy a new coil rear shock, probably a PUSH platform-removed Vanilla-R, or DHX 5.0 Coil, or Rocco to compare, and then sell the RP23. I've got lighter high end wheels (Mavix x3.1 UST) with better hubs (Hope Bulbs), and a Nixon Elite coil fork w/ rapid wind down 115 - 145mm travel with firm spring for my ~200+ weight.

    I plan to run coil front and rear unless the bike is just as smooth and very low maintenance with the stock air spring spec (unlikely). Iíve always found that coil is well worth the weight, but I havenít ridden the RP23 or í07 Float-R or Talas forks yet, maybe the choppy suspension feeling from platform and stiction of the í06 Fox air versions is removed now (but I doubt it). All my Tracer's XTR, Raceface, Tompson, Mavic, and Koski parts will fit (except headset, seat collar, and shorter rear coil Vanilla-R shock). Planning on keeping my Tracer with swapped out lesser parts to allow others to test ride my Mojo and still have a top quality bike to ride (and cover down time for any warrantee or repair issues).

    Rear DerailleurSRAMX-9 Rear derailleur long cage
    Front Derailleur SRAMX-Gen Front derailleur / silver / diam 34.9 / top pull
    Cranks FSANew Afterburner MegaExo, Hollow Forged, Alloy Spider, 68/73mm BB 175mm Length x 104/64mm BCD x 44/32/22
    Headset FSAOrbit IS, ACB w/25mm Custom Cone Spacer Option (H2088D)
    'Brakes HayesHFX 9 V6 rotor (160mm) Black or Grey (Int'l std or Post mount)
    Brakes HayesHFX 9 V6 rotor (160mm) Black or Grey (Int'l std or Post mount)
    Shift Levers SRAMX-9 Trigger shifter front
    Shift Levers SRAMX-9 Trigger shifter 9-speed rear
    Cassette SRAMPG-970 MTB Cassette11-34
    Chain KMC1/2 X 11/128 X 110 LINKS SILVER/GRAY
    H/Bar IbisDH 31.8 AL-7075 T6 42mm Rise, 4 x 9 deg bend, 660 mm wide, SP Ano Blk, w/o Logo, 270g
    Stem Ibis Stem 120mm Ext., 31.8 Bar/28.6 Steerer Clamps 7075, SB BLK ANODIZED W/O Logo
    Seat Post Ibis31.6 x 350 L, 7075 SB BLK ANODIZED w/o Logo
    Saddle fi'zi:kAliante Gamma Black leather Titanium black
    WheelsMavicCROSSRIDE Silver, Pair - Int'l 6-Bolt
    Tires KendaNevegal DTC - 26 x 2.1
    Tires KendaNevegal DTC - 26 x 2.1
    Tubes Maxxis26x2.125Presta
    Tubes Maxxis26x2.125Presta
    GripsVELOPP+FIBER BLACK/GEL BLACK + ALUM CLAMP 130MM
    Fork FoxFloat RLShockFoxFloat RP23 **

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    Considering Pace RC41.... 130mm or 150mm?

    There are so many long travel forks to consider for the Mojo, and more coming all the time. Lately I am considering Pace. Pace is now distributing their light and strong forks in the USA.

    The Pace RC41 comes in 130mm / 5.1" Xcam version OR the 150mm / 5.9" Fighter version. Each is near 3.5 lbs.

    For an extra 0.8" of travel the Fighter is 0.6" longer (509mm -v- 524mm).

    I imagine either length would work well with the Mojo's 5.5" rear suspension but am not sure if one would be a better fit. Since I will be on a small frame and 130mm has worked for me in the past, that may be my route.

    Anybody else going 150mm or bigger. Any thoughts on fork length considerations for the Mojo.

    -EDIT-, add:
    After looking closer, I see these forks have lockout but not adjustable travel. Since I do alot of hill work and appreciate adjustable travel, I might better look at the Pace RC40-Xcam. It is coil sprung, adjustabl travel 130 to 100mm, and still a hair under 4lbs.
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    any pics?

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    Medium Mojo
    Fox 32 140mm Talas RLC (3 clicks - love it)
    Fox RP23 rear (very effective)
    Syntace 90 mm 5 deg. stem
    EC50 Riser MonkeyBar
    X-Gen front Derailleur
    X.9 rear w/ long cage
    SRAM 991 rear cassette
    SRAM 991 chain
    Avid Juicy 7s w/ 180 rotors front and back
    Shimano XT Hollowtech w/ Phill Wood rebuild Bottom Bracket
    Race Face Team chain rings (22,32,44)
    Toothfairy chainring Bashguard
    SRAM X-0 trigger shifters
    Mavic CrossMAX XL wheels and hubs
    Kenda 2.35 Blur Groove up front and 2.1 Navegal rear (with tubes)
    Gravity Dropper Seatpost w/ 4"/3"/0" three position drop
    Specialized BG Avatar saddle
    Pedals switch between Time Attak Carbon and Welgo Magnesium Platforms
    Avid Flak Jacket cables (all cables trimmed after this photo).

    With all this heavy equiment, comes in just under 29 bls.

    However, even at this weight, it climbs so much better then my 30 lbs Blur. Much better suspension design. I love the DW-Link. Also go down like a Nomad. I am in love with this bike. Only one ride under my belt so far, but love at first ride.



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    Interesting.

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    does anyone have any thoughts about running the mavic duc 32 fork up front? It seems like it would be a good match.

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    Like I posted in another section and I nag scot about every other week or so, I've had all the parts for a few months now and am just waiting on my Large RP23 frame ( judging by the pictures and the head mans suggestion it looks like a good frame size choice for me).

    I'm a bit of a not so old schooler and have many of the same parts on all my Ibis Ti rides in the past...



    Rear Derailleur: XTR RD-M952
    Front Derailleur: XTR FD-M961
    Headset: Cane Creek intefrated (IS-6?)
    Cranks: Mint Race Face Next LP Carbon black compact
    Bottom Bracket: FSA Platinum Pro MegaQuad Ti
    Brakes: Avid Juicy Carbon 160mm
    Shift Levers: XTR sl-M952
    Cables Avid flak jacket
    Cassette: XTR CS952
    Chain: XTR
    Pedals: 959's Builit proof!
    H/Bar: Race Face Next SL
    Stem: undecidied but I have a Ti moots removeable face for now to try
    Seat Post: N.O.S. Titaium syncros ( e-bay--score!)
    Saddle: sella trans am Ti
    Grips: pedros balckwall
    Wheels: Mavic xc717( silver) w/ Blue CK iso hubs ( another e-bay purchase)
    Skewers: standard suspension salsa flip-off's!
    Tires: Hutchinsoin Python 2.3's
    Tubes: performance ulta or lunar light ( saturday morning speacials here in boulder)
    Fork: FOX FloatTXX ( maybe I'll drive up to loveland and PUSH it later on)

    I'm sure I could go lighter but this will be my primary bike in the montains and I'll continue to ride my 24.5# bowti, 23.5# silk-ti, 18.5# Ti mojo SS here in the front range and foothills.
    I've ridden nothing but the silkie since it's completion last fall and I love it, so the carbon mojo will have to impress...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zrymland

    With all this heavy equiment, comes in just under 29 bls.

    However, even at this weight, it climbs so much better then my 30 lbs Blur. Much better suspension design. I love the DW-Link. Also go down like a Nomad. I am in love with this bike. Only one ride under my belt so far, but love at first ride.

    Yippee! A completed Mojo build!! Looks great.

    I am surprised your kit is up to 29 lbs. Did you weigh the frame seperately to see where you started?

    Ride on.

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    I should have weighed the frame first. It sure felt light. Lighter than my Blur frame.

    My scale may be off. I'll weigh again at LBS and give update.

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    29lbs sounds high to me too based on the carbon mojo weight quotes from the boys at ibis, I'd say get a second opinion from another scale...

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    Just weighed a med. on a digital scale, 5lbs. 13ozs. On the same scale a med 5-Spot weighs 6lbs 5ozs, med Flux 5lbs 7ozs for comparason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzsean
    does anyone have any thoughts about running the mavic duc 32 fork up front? It seems like it would be a good match.
    I too thought it might be a good match. I asked Maverick about it and found it won't work for small and medium Mojo frames. Maverick said it needs a minimum 130mm headtube/headset stack height (spacers don't count). So it seems it may still be a good match for some people on a large or x-large Mojo. Alas, that's not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noshortcuts
    I too thought it might be a good match. I asked Maverick about it and found it won't work for small and medium Mojo frames. Maverick said it needs a minimum 130mm headtube/headset stack height (spacers don't count). So it seems it may still be a good match for some people on a large or x-large Mojo. Alas, that's not me.
    awesome, thanks for the update. I think I will go that path as I will be on a large mojo come the next batch. :crosses fingers:.

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    Just curious, What shop was able to supply you with a Med. frameset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    Just curious, What shop was able to supply you with a Med. frameset?

    I got mine at Sun Bikes in Milpitas, CA. But it was the only one they got and they said they would not get another until the end of the year.

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    man, those mojos are hard to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    Just curious, What shop was able to supply you with a Med. frameset?
    Ummmmm, RTR Cycles in Anchorage Ak.................

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.T.R.
    Just weighed a med. on a digital scale, 5lbs. 13ozs. On the same scale a med 5-Spot weighs 6lbs 5ozs, med Flux 5lbs 7ozs for comparason.
    Don't things weigh less in AK cuz it's so far from the equator? Rick? Or is it cuz you're closer to the sun up there in the great white north?
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    My Mojo build

    This build was contemplated over the last 8 months since I ordered my Med frame. I've had some of these parts sitting in a Rubbermaid bin for so long that they are now outdated I've paid alot of attention to the final colour scheme. All Red, Black, and Carbon. The weights are approx and might not be exact so don't get on my back if you think they are off a bit

    Since I had so much time to buy the parts, I was able to wait for killer deals on everything... closeouts, eBay bargains etc, so the whole build is coming in quite cheap compared to a stock package. I did blow the budget on the wheels though

    One area of concern is the crankset. I have listed a Standard 24-34-46 carbon crank. I read that Ibis recommends a compact. I prefer the gearing of the standard rings, but can swap to a compact (by changing the spyder on these cranks) if i run into clearance issues. I have the compact spyder ready if needed.
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    It's in the shop now (Over the Edge, Fruita, CO.) Being built up to ship today!

    Stoked!!!

    For other's preordered from OTE, they are still waiting for more to arrive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scot Nicol
    Don't things weigh less in AK cuz it's so far from the equator? Rick? Or is it cuz you're closer to the sun up there in the great white north?
    --Chuck
    Actually it's the " Northern Lights " effect

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    Got my Large Mojo yesterday...mounted as of today

    Cane Creek Solos Internal
    Project 321 Lefty Adapter
    140mm Carbon Lefty
    Silver Masterpiece post
    WTB Rocket Team Ti
    I9 Enduros

    Coming...

    Hope M4s
    5.1 tubless strips
    Conti Vertical Pro USTs
    90mmx10deg Thomson X4
    Raceface NEXT sl lower riser
    XO triggers/shifters
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ51

    One area of concern is the crankset. I have listed a Standard 24-34-46 carbon crank. I read that Ibis recommends a compact. I prefer the gearing of the standard rings, but can swap to a compact (by changing the spyder on these cranks) if i run into clearance issues. I have the compact spyder ready if needed.

    I would deffinitely go with the compact setup 22-32-44 on the Mojo... The cliearence is very tight and if you get chain suck the chain already get stuck up there. At least with a simple back pedel motion the chain comes right out with the campact setup, but I think with a full size you will have issues.

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    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X.9 long cage
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XTR FD-M961
    Shift Levers: SRAM X.0 trigger
    Brakes: Magura Louise
    Headset: Cane Creek Solos
    Stem: Ritchey WSC
    Cranks: Shimano XTR
    Bottom Bracket: integrated with XTR cranks
    Cassette: Sram 990 11-34
    Chain: SRAM 991 hollowpin
    Pedals: Shimano 959
    H/Bar: 31.8 Easton EC70 Monkeylight carbon
    Seat Post: Easton EC70 carbon
    Wheels: Mavic crossmax XL
    Tires: Kenda Karma 2.3 Nevegal rear, Kenda Karma 2.3 front
    Fork: adjustable travel. Fox 32 Tala RLC 140mm

    I can't wait for it to arrive early september!

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    MJ51- Post some pictures of your build...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdavis
    MJ51- Post some pictures of your build...

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    Will do... but no frame yet

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    Here are some pics I took at Sea Otter this year - drool worthy stuff for those of you waiting for your frames (even for those of you who aren't)







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    MOJO Riding Impressions / Pics

    Hi all, I'm re-posting this from another thread....

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    I picked it up yesterday and was able to get in a nice 2 hour ride. Thought I'd share some overall impressions. First off, it is a stunning bike to look at, even moreso in person. The owner of the shop, who has seen just about every bike imaginable, was amazed. He said he didn't know if I should ride it or hang it on the wall as art. The carbon work is just awesome. BTW, the rear triangle might even be more impressive than the front.

    Details: The bike comes with a nice manual. Not that general manual you always get with your bike, the 'always wear a helmet when you ride' crap. Ibis provides a nice overview of the bike, how to set it up, how to care for it, how the Fox suspension works with the Mojo, etc. A small thing, but a great touch IMO. Sweet Ibis stem (possibly made by Syntace?), a stainless steel stay protector, included vinyl protectors to prevent cable rub, cool new '4 Ibis' logo on the seat tube (maybe representing the 4 owners?).

    Ride: I have always wanted to ride a DW-link and compare it to my 4-bar ellsworth Id. Both are set up at 5.5 inches of travel and have a lightweight trail build, so this is a great comparison. The Id weighs a respectable 27.68 pounds, the Mojo comes in at 26.34 pounds (with the SL build and Shimano 959s). 2 hours is hardly a season of riding, but these 2 bikes are very different. The Mojo definitely pedals more efficiently. With the Id, I feel like I have 5.5 inches of travel, and not always in a good way. The Mojo feels almost race-like. The travel is there, but only when you need it. It climbs like a rocket...I set the RP23 at level 1 (there's also a 2 and 3, but I never needed them) and the rear stiffens with every pedal stroke. It almost felt like a hardtail. VPP and DW-link riders already know this I'm sure, but having never ridden either, this is entirely new to me. In between climbing and descending is that thing called flow and the Mojo gets you there easily. This is why I ride....to get to that place in the ride where your working hard, but don't know it. I rode my favorite section of trail 4 times just to keep experiencing this. There are not a lot of descents on this trail, but the Mojo seemed to handle them fine. (I flipped the RP23 to 'open' (propedal off, basically) and this really makes a big difference going downhill. This bike rips, plain and simple.
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    ... and if we just ... First ride report

    I rode my Mojo Carbon with SX build for the first time last night.

    First, a special thanks to Troy Rarick and the expert mechanics at Over the Edge Sports in Fruita, CO, for the easy business handling and personal attention to getting this bike to me. Shipping to Cali was $150.

    But before the first ride I mounted the wheels and tires off my Tracer. And it was good to use my familiar tires Mutanoraptor 2.4’s tubeless with Stans sealant off my Tracer to gain a close comparison of the traction and handling differences. The SX build’s silver Mavic CrossRides with Nevegal 2.1 tires are as light as my older self built (Mavic x3.1 UST, Hope Bulb, DT2.0, alloy nips) but flexier and half the hub engagement rate, 18 vs. 36 per revolution. My black wheels really make the Mojo look much better in my opinion, the contrast of silver wheels looked low end and out of place on the beautifully finished near black carbon rag frame.

    I stopped many times to adjust fit and shock pressure. I rode pavement 2 miles from home to a local trail (Tamarancho) with many switchbacks and a wide variety of conditions. Once I got the fit issues settled down pretty well it was apparent how well balanced the bike handles. The (OEM only) ‘07 Float-RL fork and RP23 are very well balanced together. With RP23 Propedal lever in the "off" position the bike pedals better than my Tracer, no squish or wallow at all, very efficient in any ring and gear and, and like all the other DW-Links I've ridden, no detectable pedal kickback at all in any gear (the Tracer is rather low in pedal bob without a platform shock but unlike the Mojo and other dw-Links I've ridden the Tracer does has a very slight bit of kickback feel hitting sharper rocks in the granny's lower gears).

    Only the fork bobbed while standing pedaling. I was well under the recommended pressure to achive 25% sag and near full travel, I imagine the ‘07 Float-RL air pressure will come up when the fork is more fully broken in, it is moderatly sticky as new. I’m still fooling with air pressure optimization for sure, but ended up last night with 10 pounds under the recommended 90% body weight for the RP23, still never used the last 1.5 inches of suspension travel. Less pressure allowed too much sag for climbing geometry (I’ll be replacing the air shock and fork with coil types for better balance of sag and travel and better traction and ride quality.) It appears the Mojo has a similar problem as my Tracer did of not gaining full travel using a Float type air shock like the RP23 is based on, perhaps an AVA sleeve or DHX Air would produce full travel with optimum sag. The lack of full travel on the Tracer with air is only for heavier riders, average weight and lighter riders could get full travel which may be thee same with the Mojo using Float/RP23 type shocks. More ride time is needed to know for sure, I wasn't riding it as hard as I can on that first ride.

    The air suspension worked better than I expected, Fox has really reduced the stiction issue since I last spend extended time on air with my 2001 FloatRL the first year on my Tracer before going to a Vanilla-R. But there is slower compression damping than I like even with no Propedal, it has a dead feeling, I kind of prefer a slight wallow and more liquid and lively rhythmic handling feel. But I need to ride this combo more, it may break in to be smoother, and perhaps it is really better with more compression than I prefer. My coiled Tracer even with 4 inch travel (actually 4.5 inch travel now with Nixon and Uzzi-SL link) is smoother over smaller gravely conditions, but the Mojo with air match in smoothness quality with any real hits and rough trail and was the extended deep travel is much more plush on bigger hits, and smoother in every way above a about 10mph. I still want to get a coil rear and swap my coil Nixon Elite form the Tracer to the Mojo. I think the ride will be even better.

    Handling and braking is superb so far, better than the Tracer is downhill, more stable in direction, with slightly slacker head angle and same seat angle as the Tracer’s short wheelbase 4 inch setting. And much stability advantage of the Mojo is because of the near 1 inch lower BB height. I measured the Mojo BB height at 13.0 inches with the new OEM wheels and tires, pretty low for so much travel. I did scrape pedals a few times that almost never occurred with the Tracer due to the Mojo’s lower BB height, but not as much as I expected, I guess due to no pedal bobbing. Rear braking is as stable and high traction equaling the superb rear braking of the Tracer, which has the best rear braking traction of any trail bike I’ve ever ridden.

    The Sram 9.0 shifting was very easy, and getting familiar to only using thumb will come quickly, but I prefer Shimano’s thumb-finger Rapid-Fire for better ergonomics and quickness up and down. The Sram 1:1 cable pull really makes good sense for closer spaced 9-speed precision. I'm coming from 8-speed and the wider range of gears is nice. I do want to get better brake levers, I'm used to the flat face of Avid Ultimate levers I've used for 6+ years, flat faces spread out finger pressure and allow for more powerful pressure without biting into the fingers, after all these years I wonder why Hayes hasn't made flat faces standard, must be weight vs. stiffness vs. cost to produce stiff flat faced levers.

    When picking it up while tired after the ride the air suspended Mojo feels like it's at least 2 pounds lighter than my 28 pound coiled Tracer, it is very light, although the weight difference isn't so noticeable while riding except the Mojo does want to jump up short climbs with greater ease. Launching both wheels is very balanced, and bunny-hopping or manualing the front end up is very easy.

    Pictures to follow (when I ever get my camera back from warrantee repair).

    In one word the Mojo ride is AWESOME! Also a few more… superbly balanced, very light and low flex, quick and stable handling, and with perfect efficiency. This ride confirmed to me it's the very best trail bike in the world now.



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    I have a Mojo comming in September and the build is as follows.
    I might point out some custom stuff.
    First I am having a twist shifter put on the front derailer so I can trim the chain and keep it from rubbing. The rear gets a trigger shifter.
    Second the seat post is a Maverick Speedball, it has a lever under the seat so my dashboard stays cleaner, and the seat drops to any level down to 3 inches for any type of riding , and weighs in at about 14 oz.
    I have also requested the shop to use solid cable runs to keep the lines cleaner and dirt free.
    I am wondering if I should put out the extra bucks for a Talas shock so I can drop the front an inch and a half or so for climbing, any mojo owners care to advise?
    The rear derailer is an Sram X9 I have an X9 on my current bike now and like it but wonder if the MOJO rates a higher grade component.
    I went with a Specialized saddle for the comfort and protection it provides for the prostrate, it is the only saddle I have used that allowes me to ride all day without majior pain and discomfort.

    Frame: Ibis Mojo Carbon with RP3 shock
    Front Fork: 07 Float 140 RLC
    Headset: Cane Creek S-3 1-1/8
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7 Hyd Disc 7"
    Stem: Thompson Stem X-4 10 degree Black
    Bars: Answer Pro taper Carbon OS 1" rise
    Grips: ODI Ruffian w/clamps
    Crank: Shimano XT M760 22-32-44t
    Front Derailer: shimano XT top swing dual pull
    Chain: Sram X-9 pc991 9s w/p-link
    Casette: Sram PG980 Csst 9s 11-34
    Rear Derailer: Sram X 9 long (I'm still not decided on this)
    Front tire: WTB Mutanoraptor Kevlar 2.4
    Rear tire: WTB Mutanoraptor Kevlar 2.24
    Rims: Mavic Crossride wheelset
    Seatpost: Maverick Seatpost ASP 31.6mm (Speedball)
    Saddle: Specialized BG2 Sport
    Peddels: Eggbeaters

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