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    Ibis HDr not enough rear clearence

    I have come across these pictures with HDr and schwalbe 650b HD 2.35 tire combo...
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    Yup, looks like the HD 2.35 is a bit too tight...

    ...and it would be nice if there was more room.

    But like it clearly says on the Ibis web site:

    "Depending on brand and depth of knobs, most 650b tires up to 2.35″ will fit the Mojo HDR. We've found that different tire manufacturers seem to use different calibrations on their rulers, so it could be that there are some 2.35" tires that don't fit."

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    "Up to 2.35" rear tire depending on brand and height of cornering knobs"
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    Re: Ibis HDr not enough rear clearence

    I agree with the statement.
    The problem is there is 0 clearance with these particular tires and it makes me wonder how much clearance will be left with other not so big 2.35 tires, not too much I assume...
    Don't get me wrong, this bike is really nice, but at the same time full of compromises.
    It is just too heavy for a 130mm carbon trail bike. 147mm option is not ready out of the box and requires modding. Plus the inadequate tire clearance.
    I was excited about this bike at first, not so much anymore...

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    Ibis HDr not enough rear clearence

    Yeah, what a scam the HDR has been. Don't get me wrong, my HD has been AWESOME, in its fourth season now and Ibis CS has been stellar. But this revision just sets back a totally new bike without a lot of proper change from the original. Look at the build and presumably the numbers they got from using the Pacenti tires, some of the shortest 650b tires out there to make it look 'good'.

    Sorry Ibis but my next bike, which I'm ready for now, will not be another Ibis.

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    I have a feeling that ibis was working on the HDR before 650 really started to take off so they put it out anyway. The updates to the hd are nice and its still at the top of the heap for 26" bikes. But I agree that it would be nice to see a more dedicated 27.5.

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    Wide rims and lower pressure for the tires helps somewhat, but all of Ibis's bikes have tire fitting issues. Including big fat 650B tires on the HD and 29er on the Ripley. My paint and some carbon is gone on the yoke of my HD's rear triangle. Ibis told me that the carbon is pretty thick back there. Big bummer.

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    Yes.....and should we be running big fat tires on a 29er or a 130mm 650b? More clearance would probably mean longer stays or less strength.

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    HDR needed to be longer travel, stealth dropper post cable routing, internal cable routing, lower, more tire clearance, a smidge slacker...

    but alas....

    To be fair it's not just Ibis, I've seen many other manufacturer efforts in the flesh and have laughed at tire clearance etc..

    I'll not look at 650b for a couple more years now.

    My HD with 2.4 Rubber Queens' on (crazy high tires) is basically 650b.

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    Problem is that Conti 2.4's rub the seat tube on a lot of the HD's as well. Pretty much is what it is right now. I think that once Ibis goes to the latest version of DW with shorter links we will see the long term solution. My gut tells me the HD-R will be fairly short lived in lineup and 12 months from now there will be a 150+ travel 275 bike available along with a light weight 130 travel bike.

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    Luckily 2.4 RQ's don't rub on my MKII HD.

    But yeah I agree, I think HD-R is a bit of a stop gap. Few more seasons in my HD, can't fault the bike.

    Hopefully by then Ibis will have a proper 650b bike, although wheel size doesn't bother me - I'd just like a stealth port and slightly lower and slacker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    Problem is that Conti 2.4's rub the seat tube on a lot of the HD's as well. Pretty much is what it is right now. I think that once Ibis goes to the latest version of DW with shorter links we will see the long term solution. My gut tells me the HD-R will be fairly short lived in lineup and 12 months from now there will be a 150+ travel 275 bike available along with a light weight 130 travel bike.
    +1 - the HDR seems like a stop gap measure to get a foot in the 650B door. I had Ibis at the top of my list for a new MTB, but they got scratched when I saw the HDR specs.

    Having said that I'm sure Ibis will come out with 150mm travel 650B bike that can take a full range of tires and I'm sure it will be a great bike. I don't know if I'd hold my breathe for next year, but sooner or later that's a move that will happen.

    I've got a lot of positive stoke for Ibis as a company. I'll just wait until I'm ready to get my next next mountain bike to taste the Kool Aid.
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    Anyone have a SUCCESS story to share about HDR 650 tire clearance?

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    As long as you stick to 2.2 tires you will be fine. There is also a 2.25 Hans Dampf in 275 available which fits fine. Plenty of clearance and no issues. Most people do not need to run such large rear tires, but it is really nice to have the option when it is necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibbs_ View Post
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    My HD with 2.4 Rubber Queens' on (crazy high tires) is basically 650b.
    You should see how monster the TK 2.4x27.5 are. When you put them into the rear of an HD the tire hardly even moves.

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    I have a 1st gen HD 26" and I wish I could run smaller tires but I've destroyed a set of Flows running 2.3s on the abundant square rocks here in Phoenix. I'm protecting my rims with a massively heavy, 1100 gram, Trail King 2.4. Pedaling such a heavy tire is like running with weights around my ankles. At 6'5 I would surely benefit from 650B wheels and I was planning on getting the retrofit swing arm, but if I can't run a large volume tire what's the point?

    On paper the new Mach 6 looks like a perfect bike but it's just so d@mn ugly! I hope Ibis is feverishly working on an all new answer to the Mach 6. An elegant 650b replacement for the HD that can run big tires.

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    What is the point of a new rear triangle that still can't fit standard all mountain tires?

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    Seems to me 2.35" is a little on the large side of standard. No? It's supposed to be more of a trail bike than full-on all mtn. I believe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelldify View Post
    Seems to me 2.35" is a little on the large side of standard. No? It's supposed to be more of a trail bike than full-on all mtn. I believe...
    I wouldn't buy a trail bike that couldn't fit a tire like a 2.35 HD in the rear.

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    There are certain places like Phoenix where you do really need large volume tires or you have to run very high pressures. Higher pressures make a big difference in traction and small bump compliance so it is less than ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    As long as you stick to 2.2 tires you will be fine. There is also a 2.25 Hans Dampf in 275 available which fits fine. Plenty of clearance and no issues. Most people do not need to run such large rear tires, but it is really nice to have the option when it is necessary.
    From what I have seen or read, most of the 2.2 tires are a no-go or a very tight fit in the HD because they are tall - Wild Grip'r 2.2 is a no go (I lost a few carbon layers in the yoke), Ardent 2.2 is reportedly quite tall, too, Honey Badger 2.2 is even taller. Hans Dampf 2.25 SS fits but if you ride in rocks, you may not get more than 300 miles out of it (my experience). Nobby Nic 2.25 is a joke of a tire for the HD. What is left? Neo Moto 2.3, Nevegal 2.1 and possibly 2.3. Maybe some of the new smaller Hutchinson tires. We were told the HD-R has more tire clearance than HD but is it enough for at least the 2.2 Honey Badger and Ardent on wide rims?

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    Part of the dilemma here is that -- despite all the hype -- 27.5 has a middling tire selection at best, so there just isn't a lot of choice out there. I get that many may be frustrated that their tire of choice doesn't fit in the rear tri, but the industry needs to settle down on what is an "acceptable" dimension for particular tire categories so that bike companies have something to design towards. For what it's worth, I've had great luck with the neomoto 2.3 on my HD, in rocky NorCal Tahoe conditions. About .25" clear.
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    I think the bottom line is that on anything other than an XC bike, having significant tire restrictions is a tough pill to swallow.

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    Uhhh I don't get it. I barely run 2.2's for XC rides let alone normal trail riding.
    My "Standard" tyre is a 2.5 single ply exo Minion.
    I am starting to get the feeling that the HDR is a little under cooked.
    Looks like too many corners cut to fit 650B - travel and tyre clearance being key.
    Just as well that I am loving the stock HD and maybe there will be an HDRR (extra R for "revised!")

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    Ibis HDr not enough rear clearence

    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Nobby Nic 2.25 is a joke of a tire for the HD.
    Has anyone run a NN 2.25 on the HDR (not HD at 27.5) and can confirm that it doesn't fit? 2.35 NN I would expect to be about as bad as the HD 2.35, but I'll be bummed if the 2.25 NN doesn't fit...
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    Anyone out there know if a high roller II will fit on the rear(27.5)? should be comparable to the hans, no?
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    HR 2 2.30 fits my HD with tons of room. 2.5 Minion DHF fit too.
    You guys telling me that a 2.2 Nobby Nic doesn't fit? You're fecking kidding right? If so I am astonished that they let this sled out into the public. Sorry Ibis but it has to be said and I am a massive fan of what you guys do

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    My 1st gen HD worked fine with Cont TK 2.2 and Specy Butcher 2.3 in the rear with no issues. The Continental TK although listed as 2.2 is massive for its stated size as everyone probably knows by now.
    I thought the "new" HD-r swingarm was to allow even more tire clearance then before? Are the previous tire fitting issues limited to the 650b configurations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62 View Post
    HR 2 2.30 fits my HD with tons of room. 2.5 Minion DHF fit too.
    You guys telling me that a 2.2 Nobby Nic doesn't fit? You're fecking kidding right? If so I am astonished that they let this sled out into the public. Sorry Ibis but it has to be said and I am a massive fan of what you guys do
    are you talking 26" or 650b tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    Has anyone run a NN 2.25 on the HDR (not HD at 27.5) and can confirm that it doesn't fit? 2.35 NN I would expect to be about as bad as the HD 2.35, but I'll be bummed if the 2.25 NN doesn't fit...
    From Colin at Ibis who has fitted a number of different 650b tires to the HDR:

    "A knobby knock fits fine, as do most 2.35's, the Hans Dampf just isn't actually a 2.35."

    I forget the actual measurement of the Hans Dampf, but I think it's closer to 2.5". There's no truth to the sidewall markings on some tires, they are off hugely in both directions, both smaller and larger than marked.
    Most 2.35s x 650b fit the HDR. The Hans Dampf 2.35 is much larger than marked and doesn't fit. Hope this helps answer the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    Has anyone run a NN 2.25 on the HDR (not HD at 27.5) and can confirm that it doesn't fit? 2.35 NN I would expect to be about as bad as the HD 2.35, but I'll be bummed if the 2.25 NN doesn't fit...
    The NN 2.25 fits just fine in the HD, but it is just a poor tire for AM IMHO. It has paper thin sidewalls and I could not get it work tubeless - during every ride, it would spawn a new hole in a sidewall to leak all air. YMMV but I do not think I am alone who has massive issues with it. The Hans Dampf 2.25 SS is a much better choice.

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    Ibis HDr not enough rear clearence

    Quote Originally Posted by hanssc View Post
    "A knobby knock fits fine, as do most 2.35's, the Hans Dampf just isn't actually a 2.35."

    I forget the actual measurement of the Hans Dampf, but I think it's closer to 2.5". There's no truth to the sidewall markings on some tires, they are off hugely in both directions, both smaller and larger than marked.
    Much appreciated Hans.

    And I agree, the lack of consistency with tire measurements is bizarre. For an industry that loves new standards, you'd think tires would be an area where some legitimate standardization would be easy to come by. Easier said then done I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    has paper thin sidewalls and I could not get it work tubeless - during every ride, it would spawn a new hole in a sidewall to leak all air. YMMV but I do not think I am alone who has massive issues with it.
    Weird, I ran NN's tubeless for a year and a half on my HD w/o a single issue, burp, flat or leak. I'm not sure which flavor but I don't think they were the SS walls.

    I've never tried Hans D's only because I've had such a good time with the NN's
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    My tubeless experience with a range of Schwalbe tires was been flawless, including HD (SS), NN (SS), and RaRa (non-SS).

    The snakeskin versions I've used hold air indefinitely without sealant on Stan's and light-bicycle carbon rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    My tubeless experience with a range of Schwalbe tires was been flawless, including HD (SS), NN (SS), and RaRa (non-SS).

    The snakeskin versions I've used hold air indefinitely without sealant on Stan's and light-bicycle carbon rims.
    Like I've said, your mileage may vary. There is quite a bit of difference between SS and plain versions of NN and the SS is not available in 2.25, only in 2.35 (which won't fit in the Mojo HD). A 570g NN 2.25 may be great for XC but I doubt it will shine on a long legged trail bike.

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    I know not everyone will agree with me. But honestly for "most" people you don't need a monster truck tire in the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yody View Post
    I know not everyone will agree with me. But honestly for "most" people you don't need a monster truck tire in the rear.
    Depends entirely where you live and where you travel to for MTB trips.

    Unless you can afford multiple high end FS bikes it's nice to be able to run a wide range of tires so you can adapt the bike to the conditions you are riding in.

    If I am going to pull the trigger on an expensive MTB I'm going to make sure I can run wide rubber. If not I'll look at other options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yody View Post
    I know not everyone will agree with me. But honestly for "most" people you don't need a monster truck tire in the rear.
    "Most" people don't need full suspension. "Most" people don't need 5" of travel. "Most" people don't need a carbon frame. "Most" people don't need fancy dual link suspensions. "Most" people don't need chain guides. "Most" people don't need adjustable suspension components. "Most" people don't need hydraulic disc brakes. Etc. I think these kinds of arguments are silly.

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    I think you're missing the point.

    And yes people won't agree with you. It's about choice... which is very limited in this case.

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    Every bike has its pros/cons. Rear tire size is the least of my concerns personally. If it can fit an average to smaller 2.3 thats good enough. I know there are a lot of guys running huge tires with "low air pressure" and extra "plush" suspension that "uses all of the travel". But honestly while that feels nice n squishy its not really the ideal setup. If you need a huge tire to not dent your rim then try adding a few extra psi, its really not the end of the world. If you're that picky about tire choice then yeah maybe you don't want this bike. I just think its kind of lame to go on a flame-bash on the entire bike and the company just because it doesn't fit a big rear tire. Typical behavior from onliner's who care more about parts-spec then actually just riding the thing. Its not like the bike only fits a 2.1 or something.

    On the other hand I can appreciate the start of this thread and the awareness it makes on tire selection. Just think people are getting too worked up over it.

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    The setup on that bike is with the new I9 Enduro rims the ID on those is 26mm which is huge,add to that the Hans Dampf and you get a bigger then "Normal / Standard " size set up, I think that's part of the problem on an already Tight fitment.

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    We measured a Hans Dampf "2.35"" at 2.48". So it's close to a 2.5 not a 2.35. Again, most 2.35s x 650B fit the HDR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yody View Post
    I know not everyone will agree with me. But honestly for "most" people you don't need a monster truck tire in the rear.
    i live in co front range and run neomoto 2.3 in rear. i never needed bigger tire. there are tons of rocks and chunky sections here. its just fine. but i could see heavier riders might need bigger tire.

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    What you ride VS What you think you need...

    Quote Originally Posted by Yody View Post
    Every bike has its pros/cons. Rear tire size is the least of my concerns personally. If it can fit an average to smaller 2.3 thats good enough. I know there are a lot of guys running huge tires with "low air pressure" and extra "plush" suspension that "uses all of the travel". But honestly while that feels nice n squishy its not really the ideal setup.
    I think that nails it. I'd only add that there are a lot of options for tough tires in the 2.25-2.35 size range, with SS sidewalls etc.

    Ride what works for you, but if you really, truly must have a tire that's basically a 2.5" (the HansD) on the HD-R 650b, then it's not really going to work.

    If that's the determining factor on the bike, then move along. Or set up your HDR with 26" mega rubber in addition to 650b. That's what I'm gonna do with mine.
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    After spending quite a bit of time on the 26" / 160mm version of the HDR, I can't imagine running 650b would be any funner Actually was considering getting some 650b bits so I could switch back and forth, but no longer this bike simply rules in the 26" version
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    On my converted HD with a 160 shimmed rear shock, I've been running a 650b 2.25 SS Hans for weeks now without so much as a paint scratch on the rear triangle.

    I think the bottom line here is that if your reason for trading up from a converted HD to an HDR is to hugely expand range of wide rear tires you can run, you're likely to be disappointed. For some riders, there are enough other good reasons to justify the switch. For others, its not worth it even though they'd buy the HDR instead of the HD if they were starting over now.

    The fact that the HDR is an incremental improvement over the converted HD, not a revolutionary one, doesn't make me angry at Ibis. But when the HDR was announced and Ibis said it fit most 2.35 tires, I assumed that meant a Hans Dampf 2.35, and if I'd bought one on that assumption I'd be bummed about it now. Ibis can preserve the phenomenal loyalty they've built by being clearer with those kind of statements going forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldManBike View Post
    The fact that the HDR is an incremental improvement over the converted HD, not a revolutionary one, doesn't make me angry at Ibis.
    I think that's a key point: The HD-R is to the HD as the SL-R was to the SL: an incremental improvement.

    Ibis doesn't do model years and they don't treat their lineups the same way most larger companies do (from what I can tell). The Ripley is a New Bike. The HD-R is a significant rev of the HD, which to me is just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldManBike View Post
    But when the HDR was announced and Ibis said it fit most 2.35 tires, I assumed that meant a Hans Dampf 2.35, and if I'd bought one on that assumption I'd be bummed about it now.
    That's the thing, certain tires have a huge following (funny but true) and for those fans of those specific tires, "2.35" means the HansD definition of 2.35, not the Spesh or Conti or Maxxis definition.... And thus we bend reality to suit ourselves...

    The tire thing is so weird. I've got Spesh rubber on my 29'er HT, running "2.1" on the back and "2.3" on the front, and visually I honestly cannot tell that there is a size difference. I mean, I can see it, but it's tiny. Random anecdote, but jezus I wish there was some consistency to rubber.
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    2011 HD and arch ex: ardent 2.25 fits with plenty of room, 2.35 Nobby Nic fits with a few mm (too big of tire for me anyway). 2.25 Hans Dampf fits with plenty of room, as does Racing Ralf 2.25.

    I'm not sure what people want out of a 130mm 650b ibis. I know I wanted a faster rolling version of my HD140. Short travel, fast rolling light Enduro racer (yes I do those) for smoother tracks. I personally want decent rubber, but not huge. I think hans dampf 2.25 front, and an equivalent on the rear is ideal. For the Enduros on the Vancouver North Shore where it is "quite steep, chundery, and wet", I run my mojo HD in 160 front and rear, with real rubber on 26". Funny how 26" and 29" hit the podium regularly there this year, no 650b even close. No replacement for displacement I guess:-)

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    Ibis HDr not enough rear clearence

    Just loaded some new rubber into my new HDR. Schwalbe HD 2.25 on Novatec Diablo (23mm internal width) and plenty of clearance for me. The Hans 2.35 up front is impressively meaty considering the extra "+0.10 inches". Not the best picture but I figure people are still wanting to see multiple configurations before buying.

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    Upon first hearing about the issues with 2.35 HD in rear, I was honestly kind of bummed. But I started to realize that I was fixating on a lot of numbers that I thought were "needed" like rear tire width, rim width, travel, geo, etc..

    After finally seeing and holding the bike and tires, I suspect that 2.25 HD is going to be perfect for my trails, weight, etc. Time to test!

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    A decent sized rear tire (as in not a huge one) will roll faster, pick up speed faster, likely be lighter, stronger casing, paired with a bigger front will slack the bike out a hair, and most importantly give you a more connected feel to the bike (casing won't flex as much). Yes you cannot run as low air pressure and the rear suspension will feel fractionally harsher but I prefer a big chunky front and a medium sized rear, except on a woman, lol, I prefer reverse.

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