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    I feel like I have cheated on my wife

    I have been really curious about the short chainstay/long travel 29'rs that the magazines are raving about. In addition I had the new bike itch and have some connections. So I was offered a great deal and this is what I ended up with





    Specialized Enduro 29 with a few upgrades. I added Easton Haven aluminum wheels, KS Lev, went 1x10 and a few other minor details. Comes in a 30 lbs dead even which I think is pretty good considering there is no a single bit of carbon. I really wanted it to compare to my HD since Ibis does not make anything similar. For any of you that want to know why I didn't get a Ripley, this complete bike was close to the cost of a Ripley frame. Only one ride so far and I was completely blown out after the climb since I have been off the bike for so long. Will definitely compare to the HD as I get more saddle time.

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    Looking forward to that. I hope your recovered. If you got to compare it to the Carbine 29, that would of interest too!

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    I know how you feel. I wanted a Hakkalugi to go with my Mojo C and HD, but I ended up with a Kona Jake The Snake as the whole bike was less than the Australian price for the Lugi frame/fork. The Jake is alloy with a carbon fork and although it isn't as light as most road bikes it accelerates like crazy when you get out of the saddle compared to full suser.

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    Sceptic, I have access to a Carbine 29, but it does not really fit the short chainstay portion. I will try to find time to compare them sometime in the near future.

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    I have a 26er with fsr suspension and when swapping bikes it seems to take more effort to climb on fsr. My hd is a lb heavier but climbs better. Not to say fsr is bad, there are a few things I like about it but square edge hits and climbing are not them. Still ride my Speci often.
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    You traitor, haha

    Looks a little bit Country, X to me lol.

    Nah all good SP, be interested to see how you go and what you think, I still feel like I"m cheating riding uphill on my HD, still get passed by people but Im not configured for uphill riding, I runs a short stem and I could make it quick uphill but I'm not into that. its fast uphill on trails though where speed and momentum count, i cam stand and hammer and just leave people in my dust even if for a short burst.

    I slayed one of those last weekend in our Enduro was the rider not the bike, he's a mech for the Specialised team, the look on his face at the end of the run at me was priceless!

    Anyway very interested to hear your thoughts on the Pike, we have run put of stock here till a new shipment from Sram! I sold my Fox!

    Enjoy that puppy

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    The Pike is the best fork I have ever ridden. No break in, rides high in the travel and feels bottomless. I actually bought a 27.5 version as well for my next bike figuring I could put it on my HD since it is the same length as the Lyrik A2C. If you need me to pick one up for you and ship it let me know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    The Pike is the best fork I have ever ridden. No break in, rides high in the travel and feels bottomless. I actually bought a 27.5 version as well for my next bike figuring I could put it on my HD since it is the same length as the Lyrik A2C. If you need me to pick one up for you and ship it let me know!
    Awesome sounds the business, thats bery tempting I might look into that buddy.


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    It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on a 29er vs the Ibis Mojo HD. Nice purchase

    Everyone has their preferences, and this part of MTBR is actually cool because no one throws you under the bus if you buy a different bike (many of the others will). Go ride it, tell us how much it sucks

    If you like it, are you thinking of getting a Ripley?
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    wow, didn't expect to see an fsr bike haha. As a fellow broke person, I know what it's like to test drive a ferrari and then settle for a jetta. I feel your pain brother. Nice jetta though.

    Did you test ride a ripley before making the decision? There are used ones dropping to the 4k range. Still pricey, I know.

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    After 7 rides on the Enduro I switched back to the HD today. Since I am recovering I have been riding the same loop for the last two weeks and I set my fastest time yesterday on the Enduro. I ran 17:11 over the 3.1 mile loop with 500' of climbing. I decided to pull the HD out today and run the same loop trying to give the same effort, basically pushing as hard as I can right now. Net result was a 16:49 on the HD, but what is interesting is the Enduro is faster over every segment included in the longer one. Can't quite figure out that difference yet and will require some more rides. It does confirm my earlier 29'r experiments.

    As far as the ride feeling, the Enduro feels like a steamroller. Going downhill it just creates and carries a ton of momentum. It is super stable in the turns, but is not as pinpoint accurate as the HD. The suspension is SUPER plush, but climbing definitely requires Trail or Climb mode. Once in either of those it climbs very well. In comparison the HD feels like a scalpel. I can place it within a millimeter of where I want at any speed on any line. There is no need to bother with the rear suspension during climbing. It just drives forward with every pedal stroke.

    Neither of them is bad, but they are significantly different. It is just a matter of choosing the style of riding you like. I am not ready to call it until I can start going after some heavier terrain as I continue to heal. That probably won't be for another 4-6 weeks, but I will keep everyone updated. Let me know if you have any specific questions and I will do my best to answer them.

    To answer some of the questions above, I did not ride or even really consider the Ripley. I have been a one bike guy for a long time and almost every ride contains some terrain where longer travel is nice to have so an XC bike probably wouldn't see much use. If I had the opportunity to try a Ripley with a Pike 140 on the front it might change my mind though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes View Post
    It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on a 29er vs the Ibis Mojo HD. Nice purchase

    Everyone has their preferences, and this part of MTBR is actually cool because no one throws you under the bus if you buy a different bike (many of the others will). Go ride it, tell us how much it sucks

    If you like it, are you thinking of getting a Ripley?
    Well put, just ride a bike thats what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    After 7 rides on the Enduro I switched back to the HD today. Since I am recovering I have been riding the same loop for the last two weeks and I set my fastest time yesterday on the Enduro. I ran 17:11 over the 3.1 mile loop with 500' of climbing. I decided to pull the HD out today and run the same loop trying to give the same effort, basically pushing as hard as I can right now. Net result was a 16:49 on the HD, but what is interesting is the Enduro is faster over every segment included in the longer one. Can't quite figure out that difference yet and will require some more rides. It does confirm my earlier 29'r experiments.

    As far as the ride feeling, the Enduro feels like a steamroller. Going downhill it just creates and carries a ton of momentum. It is super stable in the turns, but is not as pinpoint accurate as the HD. The suspension is SUPER plush, but climbing definitely requires Trail or Climb mode. Once in either of those it climbs very well. In comparison the HD feels like a scalpel. I can place it within a millimeter of where I want at any speed on any line. There is no need to bother with the rear suspension during climbing. It just drives forward with every pedal stroke.

    Neither of them is bad, but they are significantly different. It is just a matter of choosing the style of riding you like. I am not ready to call it until I can start going after some heavier terrain as I continue to heal. That probably won't be for another 4-6 weeks, but I will keep everyone updated. Let me know if you have any specific questions and I will do my best to answer them.

    To answer some of the questions above, I did not ride or even really consider the Ripley. I have been a one bike guy for a long time and almost every ride contains some terrain where longer travel is nice to have so an XC bike probably wouldn't see much use. If I had the opportunity to try a Ripley with a Pike 140 on the front it might change my mind though.
    Keep having fun dude, Im not surprised you did a faster run on the HD, or on a longer ride the 29er Enduro was faster, have fun and enjoy, personally I don't think you can compare they each have strengths and weaknesses, I love to ride one myself, but have no desire to own one, I would like to see you run same fork shock tires and wheels for a comparison for the longer distance ride including cockpit position on the same ride terrain.

    Have fun buddy either way its good to play around what ever way you swing, ftw I smoked a Enduro 9r at recent Enduro on a pedaly as hell stage, I caught two riders before him and I was no where near my best either bad lead up,to event no excuses though, it was the last and 2nd longest of the stages too, it was rider not the bike though to be honest used to smoke the same guy in DH as well haha.

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    Interesting read. Thanks for the comparisons. Are you still going to build up a Mach 6 as well? What is your plan with the three bikes? Find the fastest one and return to the one bike quiver or have them all set up a bit different?

    Thanks for taking the time to post.

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    Mach 6 is supposed to be here in the next few weeks. Got my Derby rims on Friday and have the Pike sitting in the garage waiting as well. After spending a lot of rides on the Enduro I think it is faster. It has taken me a little while to adapt my riding style to the bigger wheels, but today was a good example. On every DH segment I posted either my fastest or second fastest time ever and all were top 10's. Yesterday was the same thing on some different trails. I need to take the HD out again and make some runs to confirm though.

    I think the Mach 6 will split the difference between the two and my plan is to keep two of the three. I will post more detail later to compare the bikes. Here is a pic from today with my buddies HD.


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    Interesting read. How did you have to change your riding style for the bigger wheels? Are your trails your timing on more straight than tight turns? More thread the needle or just straight ahead type trails? The park I ride most since its right out my door has some very tight switch backs mixed with rocks that don't allow for a lot of speed. Bouncing back and forth between my Ripley and 26" hdr. I find the hdr is much better, much more maneuverable. The 29" wheels to me in those sections feel big and clumsy. I do feel the ripleys big wheels help when its just a straight fast run, but I smile bigger when I ride my HDR in the tight twisty stuff.

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    Too bad the tunnels have been closed. That would have been a good place to test the tight twisty capability of the Enduro 29. I'm following this too since I'm planning Ina new bike next year. The only 26er that has me intrigued is the new Evil.

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    I live in Socal so it is all rocks. I ride everything from wide open bomber descents to super tight/rocky switch backs. From my perspective the Enduro is no slower to get around the tight corners (yes, REALLY tight ones). Sometime this week I will hike back up and take some pics to give you an idea of a few features so you can get an idea. I think the short chainstays make a huge difference on the Enduro compared to a standard 29. A quote from my friend that rode it, "this is the first 29 that doesn't feel like a 29". He rides an HD as well.

    As for changing my riding style, I have learned to take advantage of the traction benefits of the 29'r especially on the corner exits. I find I am carrying much more speed out of the corners and in the corners they are more predictable when sliding. The tires are the same ones I run on my HD so they should be directly comparable.

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    I have a ripley and an HD.. and I can honestly say anything pedally, ripley blows any of my HD times away.. not by seconds either.. I mean minutes! I am actually thinking of jumping ship on the HD though.. to either a Bronson or carbine 650b.. I rode the ripley on a really chunky enduro race and really didn't like it for that kindof race... I was torn on which bike to run, but went ripley as there were some pedally segments that I wouldn't have really done as well on with the HD
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