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    Fox Shox 2011

    I have mixed feelings about next years product line...

    On one hand I'm excited from an engineering and performance aspect for the new Kashima Coating.

    On the other I am dissapointed to see all the TALAS models drop to 2 travel settings from the 3 of years past...

    http://www.foxracingshox.com/bike/11/forks

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    I think a mojo hd with a Talas 180 would be pretty sweet.....

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    yea,

    I was hoping to see the 36 Rc2 180 Talas have settings at 180 and 160 rather than 180-140?

    Worse yet is the 136 160 Talas going from 160 to 120?

    Given the new Santa Cruz Nomad and Mojo HD are designed for 160 and 180 these new fork settings do not make sense to me?

    What say you?

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    I say I like the new Fox Float 32! Looking sexy!
    You believe it'll get better reviews than the Revelation??
    It's light too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    yea,

    I was hoping to see the 36 Rc2 180 Talas have settings at 180 and 160 rather than 180-140?

    Worse yet is the 136 160 Talas going from 160 to 120?

    Given the new Santa Cruz Nomad and Mojo HD are designed for 160 and 180 these new fork settings do not make sense to me?

    What say you?
    RockShox had huge success with their 115-160 2-step.
    Personally I like the 140-180 selection as suspention nowadays is so efficient, you only need 140 up to stop wander and 180 down to scare little children!

    I will be getting a RC2 180 Talas for my b-day next year! (Depending on what RS brings out to compete)

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    It makes sense to me, if you are in the market for a 180 fork, its because you want the extra travel and slacker head angle. If you buy a bike with a 180 fork you better well be hitting some good downhill stuff so why would you even want 160? You drop it to 140 for the climb up and then 180 for the way down, why even fool around with 160. If you want a 160 buy the 160 Talas.

    Makes absolutely perfect sense to me. I'd reckon if you don't understand you likely don't need a bike with a 180mm fork up front, more isn't always better if you don't need it. Not trying to be offensive or anything, I don't really ride anything that warrants needing a 180mm fork, not yet at least

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    Generally, when will the Fox 2011's be available? The shops should start having some good deals on the 2010 models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    yea,

    I was hoping to see the 36 Rc2 180 Talas have settings at 180 and 160 rather than 180-140?

    Worse yet is the 136 160 Talas going from 160 to 120?

    Given the new Santa Cruz Nomad and Mojo HD are designed for 160 and 180 these new fork settings do not make sense to me?

    What say you?
    I read in another forum that Talas now goes in 10mm decrements, so you could have the 180 go to 160.. or 170.

    Edit: Duh, I just read the specs on the Fox site, the other thread was wrong. However, it's not bad 180-140.

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    I'm bumed about the change from the RC2 to the RCL. I'd rather have HSC then a lock out for an AM fork. Seems like a poor trade off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scepticshock
    I'm bumed about the change from the RC2 to the RCL. I'd rather have HSC then a lock out for an AM fork. Seems like a poor trade off.
    I agree... why would someone want a lockout on an AM/FR fork? Anyway, let's see how they perform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzozaya1969
    I agree... why would someone want a lockout on an AM/FR fork? Anyway, let's see how they perform.
    Some of us pedal the bikes everywhere and a lockout is nice to have, like climbing on fire roads?

    EDIT: I do agree I am going to miss the high speed adjustment! And I have no need for 180 to get the RC2?

    I rode around on one at Sea Otter, and it was a pretty sweet unit. The Kashima Coating really made for a smooth movement on the stanchions. The new FIT damper was changed quite a bit, in fact it is now upside, and they have a lighter crown and tubes.

    I will be testing one (TALAS 160) as soon as Fox releases them for media testing, unsure when that will be?

    The new relaunch of Terralogic (on the 32's) is really trick, and works pretty well.

    TALAS FIT RLC 160 FIT
    4.67 lb / 2.12 kg
    4.65 lb / 2.11 kg (taper)
    6.3 inches / 160 mm ([2-position] 160•120)
    • Low-speed compression
    • Lever actuated lockout
    • Lockout force adjust
    • Travel — TALAS [2-position]
    • Air spring pressure
    • Rebound

    TALAS FIT RC2 180
    5.40 lb / 2.45 kg
    5.37 lb / 2.43 kg (taper)
    7.1 inches / 180 mm ([2-position] 180•140)
    • Low-speed compression
    • High-speed compression
    • Travel — TALAS [2-position]
    • Air spring pressure
    • Rebound

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhbomber
    I say I like the new Fox Float 32! Looking sexy!
    You believe it'll get better reviews than the Revelation??
    It's light too!

    just rode a 2011 Revelation over the weekend (friend's bike---hes a product guy..) and the fork has a tapered carbon crown and steer tube... its light, and stiff....
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    I too am disapointed that the 11' Fox 36 Rc2 Talas 180 does not have a 160 setting, as this is perfect for the Ibis Mojo HD and Santa Cruz Nomad, ad all the rest of the 160/180 bikes out there. Who is Fox listening to? They claim that there is not a big enough market for the 180/160? What are they thinking? Guess my Mojo HD will skip the Talsa and run the lighter 160 Float instead, as the Talas160/ 120 seems useless to me. Should be 180/160 and 160/140, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    I too am disapointed that the 11' Fox 36 Rc2 Talas 180 does not have a 160 setting, as this is perfect for the Ibis Mojo HD and Santa Cruz Nomad, ad all the rest of the 160/180 bikes out there. Who is Fox listening to? They claim that there is not a big enough market for the 180/160? What are they thinking? Guess my Mojo HD will skip the Talsa and run the lighter 160 Float instead, as the Talas160/ 120 seems useless to me. Should be 180/160 and 160/140, IMHO.

    I agree, would have preferred both of those settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    I too am disapointed that the 11' Fox 36 Rc2 Talas 180 does not have a 160 setting, as this is perfect for the Ibis Mojo HD and Santa Cruz Nomad, ad all the rest of the 160/180 bikes out there. Who is Fox listening to? They claim that there is not a big enough market for the 180/160? What are they thinking? Guess my Mojo HD will skip the Talsa and run the lighter 160 Float instead, as the Talas160/ 120 seems useless to me. Should be 180/160 and 160/140, IMHO.
    Agree as well. When I first learned that Fox would finally produce a 180mm Talas I was excited. This would be the perfect HD/Nomad fork with 180 for the down, 160 for rolling terrain and 140 for climbing. Wasn't meant to be I guess. In their defense I never use the 140mm setting on my current Talas and I'll bet losing the mid selection makes the fork smoother and more plush(fewer o-rings etc.?).

    Now I can't decide between 180 or 160 Talas for the new 160mm bike.
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    Does anybody know if you can get the TALAS in white?
    A black Fox Talas is pretty much a deal breaker for me....I prefer waiting for the new 2011 revelation....And painting a brand new fork isn't really an option.

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    Talas and Van: Black Diamond
    Float: White

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhbomber
    Does anybody know if you can get the TALAS in white?
    A black Fox Talas is pretty much a deal breaker for me....I prefer waiting for the new 2011 revelation....And painting a brand new fork isn't really an option.
    What changes are coming to the 2011 Revelation except a qr15 axle and a brake hose guide??

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    Quote Originally Posted by meph
    What changes are coming to the 2011 Revelation except a qr15 axle and a brake hose guide??
    RS is moving to QR15? I just hope they don't drop the Maxle, since IMHO it's superior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzozaya1969
    RS is moving to QR15? I just hope they don't drop the Maxle, since IMHO it's superior.

    My impression is that they aren't moving to 15mm, they are offering both 15mm and 20mm in the Revelation/Reba line and 15mm on the SID.

    They will have a 15mm maxle.

    I know RS believes in the 20mm axle (as do I) but they must be taking a bath in the OEM marketplace without any 15mm axle forks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastajet
    Talas and Van: Black Diamond
    Float: White
    ah crap....I really wouldn't want to paint a brand new fork...but we'll wait and see.
    Gonna wait a little while for rock shox to come up with the new revelation...I read they are having a carbon make over...off topic though...

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    My new IBIS came with the white 2011 fox float
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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    yea,

    I was hoping to see the 36 Rc2 180 Talas have settings at 180 and 160 rather than 180-140?

    Worse yet is the 136 160 Talas going from 160 to 120?

    Given the new Santa Cruz Nomad and Mojo HD are designed for 160 and 180 these new fork settings do not make sense to me?

    What say you?
    I agree with you. Talas 180/160mm would be a perfect choice for the enduro riding with 160 and with 180 for the enduro downhill. Solution is Lyrik or 36 Float 160mm or VAN 160mm or Bos Deville.

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    Thats awesome, id love my HD to come with the 2011 36 Float. Shame the kashima coating is an aftermarket only option

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