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    Fox 160 too much for a 130 650b HDR ?

    considering my options here, have the frame coming, crazy psyched for it. can do enve wheels now and a fork in 2014 or aluminum wheels and fork now. I have a 160 fox 36 i can put on it..... Urgh too many decisions.

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    Of all the changes I've made to bikes over the years my move to ENVE's stands out as one of clearest performance upgrades. They cost quite a bit of coin but in my mind are amazing value given how much they change the behavior of the bike. For that reason I might may elect to "tolerate" the 160 36 until I can get something else if they clear the tire I want to run.

    You can shim the 36 down to 150mm (maybe even to 140mm? Post to the suspension forum to get that answered) which would behave a bit better with the 130mm rear.

    Ever thought about selling the 160 36 and trying to find a screaming deal online for the roundly panned and constantly bagged on 2013 Fox 34? You may be able to find one at a huge discount and make it behave better. Add 10cc of float fluid to the air spring side see how it treats you. Once you have the coin, send it to Bike Co, Push, or Avalanche for a revamp and custom tune.

    X-Fusion may be a less expensive but stellar option to look at or you might find a Pike cheaper with some promo code online. Worth having a look to see what's out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalDonk View Post
    Of all the changes I've made to bikes over the years my move to ENVE's stands out as one of clearest performance upgrades. They cost quite a bit of coin but in my mind are amazing value given how much they change the behavior of the bike. For that reason I might may elect to "tolerate" the 160 36 until I can get something else if they clear the tire I want to run.

    You can shim the 36 down to 150mm (maybe even to 140mm? Post to the suspension forum to get that answered) which would behave a bit better with the 130mm rear.

    Ever thought about selling the 160 36 and trying to find a screaming deal online for the roundly panned and constantly bagged on 2013 Fox 34? You may be able to find one at a huge discount and make it behave better. Add 10cc of float fluid to the air spring side see how it treats you. Once you have the coin, send it to Bike Co, Push, or Avalanche for a revamp and custom tune.

    X-Fusion may be a less expensive but stellar option to look at or you might find a Pike cheaper with some promo code online. Worth having a look to see what's out there.
    The Fox 36 is 20mm, the 34 is 15mm. Not sure about you, but I like the 20mm TA and that will be my future forks for my HD as long as I have it. The Vengeance is a great choice because it's 650b compatible and can be lowered to something more reasonable to match the rest of the bike (can't reach their website right now to see what it can be lowered to, but I remember 130mm or 140mm being one of the intervals for spacers).

    The Fox 36 Float can be dropped only 10mm if it's 2013 or later. The earlier ones can be dropped in intervals of 10mm and as low as 100mm. The 36 Van cannot be lowered at all.
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    Build a set of Light bicycle/hope carbon wheels for around $800 and get a pike, problem solved

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    Baltic, how's your HDR handling with the pike? Did you ride one with a 140 before ordering the pike? wondering if the greater a/c of the 150 is noticeable.

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    I never rode the 140 prior, the A2C difference between the fox 140 and the Pike 150 was 19mm. I used a low profile lower headset cup to cut that down to 10mm. Have had it on 2 rides so far, feels great no wandering on the climbs. I used to have a mojo HD with a lyric 170 up front and the new setup climbs better and requires less attention

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    I thought the Fox 34's had A-C height of 555mm at 160, so 535 at 140, vs a 150mm Pike having 542.... which would be a 7mm difference between the Ibis stock Fox 140 vs Pike 150. Have I been misinformed?

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    I just measured with measuring tape so certainly could have been off by a mm or two

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    I just built a 650 mojo hdr with a Fox 34 reduced to 150 from 160. The front is a touch light on steep climbs, but otherwise it feels great and I like the slacker HA for descending. I may bump it back to stock 160 and see how that feels.

    My next step is squeezing more travel out of the rear to match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baltik View Post
    I just measured with measuring tape so certainly could have been off by a mm or two
    Haha, I trust you and your measuring tape more than some second hand mfr's claims.. LOL

    So what DID you measure for A-C on your 150 Pike?

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    Fox 34 650B 140mm = 20 5/8" or 524mm

    Rockshox Pike 650b at 150mm = 21 3/8" or 543mm
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    Awesome, thanks Baltik. Appears the claimed A-C for Fox 34's I've seen in other threads was overstated by 10mm.

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    Hey Baltik (sorry for peppering you with questions, but you've got the exact build I'm looking at) with the zero stack lower headset cup, do you have any issues with the fork's open/pedal/lock knob hitting the downtube when the bars are turned beyond 180?

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    I was worried about that as well but it clears just fine

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    Nice--thanks!

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