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    Smile Fork for Mojo HD 140?

    Hi,
    I'm thinking of switching from my regular Mojo from -08 to a Mojo HD 140 since most of my riding is more of the AM variety and not XC.
    But what fork should i go with?
    I'm 6'2/187 cm, 225lb/100kg.
    Don't get big air but like to practice jumping and drop some smaller stuff.
    Thinking of either a Float 150 QR15 or a Talas 150 QR15, but realize there are mote options out there.
    (i'm riding a Talas 140 from -09 on my Mojo)

    Thanks for all input i can get.

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    fox talas 150

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    Do you use the talus you have now? Have you looked at x fusion or sr suntour? Cant you just put your current fork on the new frame? .. good job on sticking with Ibis. They have such good customer support. ... why not the 160hd? Are you just feeling like a beefier frame ..

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    I vote 160 Float lowered 20mm, that way you get the 36 series stanchions and the 20mm axle. Or wait for the Float 34 series to be released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens3 View Post
    My current Talas isn't tapered so I can't move it.
    Sure you can, lots of headset options out there to take you from a 1 1/8" straight steer tube to a tapered headtube.

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    My current Talas isn't tapered so I can't move it.
    No, i know pretty much nothing about X Fusion (besides it's Lopes choice, thou he gets paid to ride them) Suntour just scares me...
    I just believe that the 160 is too much bike for me. Here it's steep downhill and steep uphill but always pretty short. So 140 should do just fine plus enable me to pedal uphill easier.
    So, yes, pretty much feel like I need a beefier frame. And QR15, which my current fork hasn't.

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    150/130 talas trust me. You don't want a 140 as a comprimise.

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    IMO--DO not get a talas for float... I have had both and am done with fox.. Im on a float right now(got rid of my talas for a more supple float-- which isnt).. .Im just about to get a new fork for my mojoHD 140.. Ill be going x-fusion or marzocchi.... Marz is supposed to be a really supple ride--- and x-fusion is coming out with some cool 2 stage stuff(able to handle both small fast stutter bumps and big hits too).. Take your time, research and think outside the box... ..

    Ps.. x-fusion is going to probably be my next fork.. GL
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    Thanks! This is harder then i first thought.

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    I could, but i don't want to. The fork is old and i want the stiffer QR15 too. The 34 you say, is it really coming to 26ers? That would be just perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens3 View Post
    I could, but i don't want to. The fork is old and i want the stiffer QR15 too. The 34 you say, is it really coming to 26ers? That would be just perfect!
    Yes its coming to the 26, but was told to stay away from the first production run of the new fork when it comes out. Not that I have heard of anything wrong, but you always want a proven item. Get the 2012 150. Its a great fork. If you want another fork thats fine, but if you're running a 140 like me, run a 150 front fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens3 View Post
    I could, but i don't want to. The fork is old and i want the stiffer QR15 too. The 34 you say, is it really coming to 26ers? That would be just perfect!
    Yes its coming to the 26, but was told to stay away from the first production run of the new fork when it comes out. Not that I have heard of anything wrong, but you always want a proven item. Get the 2012 150. Its a great fork. If you want another fork thats fine, but if you're running a 140 like me, run a 150 front fork.

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    Marz 44 150mm RC3 TI

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    i have an HD w/a talas and never use it, don't think you'll need it and I do some pretty steep climbs in full 160. My vote is either the float or the Marz 44 (just heard tons of positive things never tried it though)

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    if your OK with 32mm stanchions I would look at the RS Rev set at 150mm.

    Though I think the best option is one of the new 34mm forks from fox or x-fusion.

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    rockshox revelation 120-150 dual position.

    It works out to be a slightly taller axle to crown than a fox 150, so you get a lil bit slacker head tube angle, plus you can flick a switch while riding and get a a sagged 120 for the steeps. I regularly climb upto 25% grade steeps, flick the switch and eat up chunky gnar biscuits.

    Unlike the talas, this fork can be setup to become a plush monster of awesome. Feels like baby jesus hugs and pillow fights on clouds! If setup right, you have the option to use all your travel too...something I've never seen a fox capable of. Mine was 3.81lbs.

    I probably come off as a fanboy for this rev more often than not, but check one out. It's a fork that lets me do true all mountain. Huge 10,000ft climbing days of steep, loose, ****ty climbs, and then with a flick of a switch can handle impressively rocky singletrack, jumps, drops, and steep downhills.

    My only gripe is that it's so good, it will show you the flaws in your rear fox rp23.

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    I vote for the Revelation or an xfusion.
    My Rev has been rock solid for years, smoothest fork I've ever had.
    Xfusion is looking really good and is on the top of my list for next fork.

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    I use a dual air Revelation 150 for when I run the HD rear @140. It's a really good fork. Less flex than the fox and for me a better feeling suspension. Setting up the dual air Rev may take a little more work than the single air fox, but it also lets you better tune the fork for your needs. You can also lower the rev 150 to 140 or 130 with internal spacers, it's easy. X-fusion is a good option to. Im very interested in their new 34mm forks.

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    Listen to the Whoop

    Quote Originally Posted by whoopwhoop View Post
    I vote 160 Float lowered 20mm, that way you get the 36 series stanchions and the 20mm axle. Or wait for the Float 34 series to be released.
    What he said. I've got an HD 160 (which IMO, pedals just as well up as the 140) and while I'm not a real Fox fan, I think the Float 160's stiffness is the right match for the HD. I'd get the 160 Float and drop it like Whoop mentions.

    Or wait for the Fox 34's, which may take a while.

    I had a Talas 150 on my SL and missed the stiffness in the front when ripping fast chundery tech stuff. The Float 160 is stiff enough, though I'm not in love with the overall ride of the fork. Still tweaking settings on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hani1 View Post
    if your OK with 32mm stanchions I would look at the RS Rev set at 150mm.

    Though I think the best option is one of the new 34mm forks from fox or x-fusion.
    x-fusion is not out yet for the 34 I believe.

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    I'm running float 140 as that's what came off my last bike. Got an hd 140 for the same reasons as you and really happy with set up. Don't need 160 travel but wanted a strong stiff frame Some good deals on 2012 forks as the new range is out soon.

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    I want to believe the RS Rev hype!

    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post
    rockshox revelation 120-150 dual position.
    Ok, I keep hearing how great the RS Rev forks are, but I am completely confused by the model lineup. I think I counted 12 different Revelation forks at one point. Can you post a URL for YOUR fork from somewhere like Universal Cycles so I know exactly which one you're talking about... Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by recleaver View Post
    i have an HD w/a talas and never use it, don't think you'll need it and I do some pretty steep climbs in full 160. My vote is either the float or the Marz 44 (just heard tons of positive things never tried it though)
    i stopped using the talas .. changed the geometry to much and confused my simple brain....

    Marzocchi 44 RC3 Titanium Fork

    fox may be a great product but they have fanboy prices and if your not a fan boy buy somthing else.... like suntour then let everyone else know if they suck or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    Ok, I keep hearing how great the RS Rev forks are, but I am completely confused by the model lineup. I think I counted 12 different Revelation forks at one point. Can you post a URL for YOUR fork from somewhere like Universal Cycles so I know exactly which one you're talking about... Thanks!
    You would probably want the Revelation RLT TI 150mm fork. Dual air is like the fox float, and the dual position is like the talas. I bought the dual air since I never end up using the travel adjust features. Then you would just pick what steerer and what axle option you want. They come in 1-1/8 " or tapered steerer, and 9mm, 15mm or 20mm. You can also lower them from 150mm to 140mm and 130 via the internal spacers, just like the fox forks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    Ok, I keep hearing how great the RS Rev forks are, but I am completely confused by the model lineup. I think I counted 12 different Revelation forks at one point. Can you post a URL for YOUR fork from somewhere like Universal Cycles so I know exactly which one you're talking about... Thanks!
    I have a 2011 rockshox revelation rlt-ti 120-150 dual position with a straight 1 1/8th steerer.

    Longest fork name ever.

    RockShox Revelation RLT Ti Dual Position Air 150mm Disc Black/Silver NIB! 710845642913 | eBay

    blackbox damper and dual flow rebound are added bonuses.

    I specifically went for the dual position because the rockshox forks have a slightly higher axle to crown height than fox forks, and even on a fox 140, I was having problems keeping the tire down on steep climbs. With it at a taller 150, the option to kick it down to a sagged 120 really lets me climb steeper and steeper stuff with ease.

    The dual position is a solo air ( which from my understanding) adds air to both positive and negative chambers internally through one shrader valve on the top fork leg. Therefore, you can't externally adjust negative chamber pressure. I have other dual air rockshox forks, including a reba world cup that I enjoy tinkering with different +- air combos. When I originally upgraded to the dual position revelation (solo air), I thought I would miss out on this tinkering, but the setup has been flawless and perfect. Truly impressive.

    If you don't climb steep stuff, you'd probably be fine with just the regular version.

    hope that all made sense, been drinking

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    Thanks guys. Amazed at the repsonse!
    Really gave me a lot to think about. One that seems extremely intriguing is the new Fox 34 160 fork. Anyone knows anything about that one or when i becomes available?

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    Revelation World Cup Dual Air RCT3 simply the best


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    Thanks for all the Rev info!

    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post
    I have a 2011 rockshox revelation rlt-ti 120-150 dual position with a straight 1 1/8th steerer.

    Longest fork name ever.
    No kidding!

    Thanks for all the RS Rev data people! Q: Is the Rev with 32's and 20m axle anywhere even close to the Fox Float 36 in overall stiffness?

    I was NOT happy with front end stiffness with the 150 Talas on my Mojo SL (non tapered steerer obviously) and while I am pleased with the Float 36 160 on my HD, I'm curious about the RS Rev with tapered steerer and 20m axle. Could it be the magic mix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    No kidding!

    Thanks for all the RS Rev data people! Q: Is the Rev with 32's and 20m axle anywhere even close to the Fox Float 36 in overall stiffness?

    I was NOT happy with front end stiffness with the 150 Talas on my Mojo SL (non tapered steerer obviously) and while I am pleased with the Float 36 160 on my HD, I'm curious about the RS Rev with tapered steerer and 20m axle. Could it be the magic mix?
    I used to own a float 140, now I have a Rev rlt ti 150 tapered steerer with 20mm axle and also a 160 fox float tapered. I can't compare to Fox talas 150, but the Rev is noticably stiffer than the fox float 140 was. I would say the Rev 150 is some where between the float 160 and float 140 in stiffnes. I weight in at 190lb riding weight. Another thing to think about if you already own a float 160 is that you can get the Rev 150 with a 20mm axle so you would be able to swap wheels between the fox 160 and Rev 150 with out a front axle conversion. I think its a dumb move for fox to not offer a 20mm axle on forks under 160mm travel.

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    I have the Talas 150 / 130mm QR15 and I was blown away by how much better it felt than my old 140mm Talas. It's stiffer, which makes sense since the old one didn't have the tapered steerer or the 15mm axle, but it's also a hell of a lot plusher. I'm relieved, b/c I had read mixed reviews of the 2011 Talas forks.

    One other thing - I was considering the Float at 140mm since I thought 150mm would be overkill in the travel department, but the bike rides great at 150mm.

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    I have just switched from a Bos Deville to a Marzocchi 55 Ti, and I'm blown away. The 55's are the grey 2011 model. Best fork I have had on a trail bike ever and the completely annihilate the BOS (and I was a major BOS fan)
    So I'd look at a set of coil 44's the equivalent Ti vsn. 3 year no service warranty! Your laughing. Fox need a service even before they are run in. The guy that sold me the Zocches has bought Talas 36's and I am certain he will be back on a set of 55's within 6 months.
    I thought I'd feel the weight diff up front... I didn't and in a funny way they climbed the tech stuff better as they track so well. Cornering is insane. I kept throwing them into wilder and wilder corners where I couldn't reasonable expect them to grip and they did.
    The big M is back to where they were when they built the 888's I have on the dh rig.
    Simply stunning

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    I have just bought a HD140 too and plan on running my existing fork which is a 32 Float 150 FIT RLC with 15mm QR which is what I have previously been using on my Yeti 575. The Float 150 seems perfect for my type of riding but am interested in looking at the 34 Float 150 when they come out for a bit of added stiffness.

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    Rev question...

    Quote Originally Posted by DocGold View Post
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    ...So is that model available with a 20m axle as well?
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    DT Swiss EXC150 - stiff, light and huge service interval. Expensive, but I think all forks are stupid expensive these days. Never been a fan of Fox.

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    I am also planning to buy a mojo HD 140 and thinking of matching it with a TA:LAS 32 FIT RLC either the dual position 150/120 or 140/110 mm 2012 version. Which of the two versions do you think is best for this frame and if I choose one can I still use the shorter position like the 120mm or 110 mm without having detrimental effects on the frame's geometry? I am quite a small guy and more inclined on buying the 140/110 TALAS but quite worry I may not be able to use the lower 110mm position unlike the 120mm of the 150/120mm version. Thanks for your response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    ...So is that model available with a 20m axle as well?
    I have a 20mm version - actually I have 2 revelations and they are both 20

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    I have a 2012 talas kashima with like, 2 rides on it I'm getting rid of. Oh, it's a 36mm 160... I replaced it with a 180mm bomber... love it! That an I need the money... thinkin of just having a RS lyrik sitting around as a second fork...
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