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    Enduro World Series Round 2 Val d'Allos - France 29-30 June


    Enduro World Series Round 2 in Val d’Allos – France 29th to 30th June
    Next week!!! Braaap.


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    Who's stoked,

    this is being run on the original and imo the proper Enduro format.

    So it will be interesting to see how this plays out, will the same riders dominate, will improvisation leading riders who can adapt while riding down the trail the faster change the results, Dan Atherton made it clear his DH background makes him prefer knowing and practicing the hell out of the course is his preferred choice!

    Lets bring it on, hopefully Anne Carro is back on her bike for this,though not seeing any mention of her as yet.

    Will Ibis team riders be racing the HDR?

    and if so

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    Heres a peak of Fabians rig he's been doing more testing on in between the last and this round.



    Going to be EPIC

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    I think Jerome will take this one since it is back to the original blind format. Should be an awesome race and I can't wait to see it. Now if we could just get some good reporting on the Angel Fire BME race here in the US I would be stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    I think Jerome will take this one since it is back to the original blind format. Should be an awesome race and I can't wait to see it. Now if we could just get some good reporting on the Angel Fire BME race here in the US I would be stoked!

    Good call, he would have to be a favourite for sure, still think Fab Fabian will surprise, they all ride here too those French dudes lol.

    You guys are normally pretty onto it with reporting, thought Angel Fire would be pretty big, did you ride that one!

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    Nope, 9 hours from my house and it is quarter end for me so very busy at work. Bummed I missed it though. I did get into both the Downieville Classic and BME Whole Enchilada race. Stoked since each of those sold out in less than 2 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    Nope, 9 hours from my house and it is quarter end for me so very busy at work. Bummed I missed it though. I did get into both the Downieville Classic and BME Whole Enchilada race. Stoked since each of those sold out in less than 2 minutes.
    oh yeah 9hrs a bit of a hike, Donnieville would love to do that, awesome!
    Make sure you do a thread on that one, pics vids, be awesome!

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    I was also going to throw my speculation behind Clementz. Seems like he's got his equipment dialed and may be the most adaptable of the crowd. I'll go out on a limb and call for 16 year old Martin Maes to lay down some serious BRAAAAAP and find himself on one of the top three steps of the podium. Dan Atherton would be another more obvious selection but I'm counting on the kid to best his teammate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalDonk View Post
    I was also going to throw my speculation behind Clementz. Seems like he's got his equipment dialed and may be the most adaptable of the crowd. I'll go out on a limb and call for 16 year old Martin Maes to lay down some serious BRAAAAAP and find himself on one of the top three steps of the podium. Dan Atherton would be another more obvious selection but I'm counting on the kid to best his teammate.
    Definitely, JC is going to be hard to beat, big gap between rounds 1&2 though, so suspect everyone has worked out theyre weaknesses, just the riding blind which is awesome will bite many I suspect.

    Dont know enough about young MM, hes got talent, no doubt a future champ, not sure this formatt will suit him if hes feeding off Dan Atherton!

    Hes definitely a dark horse, he did smash Dan and on an older model, 26" and on flat pedals, which is pretty impressive by anyones stds, let alone a 16yo.

    I think you may be right he might still beat Dan, hope so haha.
    Flat pedal riders I have huge respect for, esspecialy since all the pressure to conform to market pressure, I ride both so in neither camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    Now if we could just get some good reporting on the Angel Fire BME race here in the US I would be stoked!
    Have you seen this vid, no reporting, looked like fun!

    Video: Day 2 at BME #1, Angel Fire/Taos; Schnell and Emmett Take the Win - BigMtnEnduro - Mountain Biking Videos - Vital MTB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick005 View Post
    Will Ibis team riders be racing the HDR?

    and if so 27.5" or 26"
    I certainly hope to see the HDR shine. I think it was unfortunate that Brian Lopes couldn't race the HD in Punta Ala. He took the Ripley for marketing reason only, he clearly admitted that - and didn't look too happy about that decision imho (although finishing as the fastest 29er still is amazing). So I expect him to race the HDR on 650B.

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    What no love for Jared Graves from this group ? Thinking Punta Ala was a good intro to this game/format for him and he's going to be really fast and prepared for this one.

    Think alot of the West Coast guys - BL, John Hauer, Curtis Keene brought 29ers because they thought the pedally format (climbs) would let them be fresher and stronger and it hurt them. Think he choose the Ripley over the custom painted HD at the last min. I expect BL to be on that new blue HDR Bike Co just built up for him.
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    Is his HDR 26 or 275? Based on the normal European courses I think that anything less than 150 travel will be a mistake. Hopefully BL, CK etc have learned their lessons and will now travel with two bikes or a 275/130 and 26/160 setup instead of committing to just the smaller travel bikes. Not sure why CK brought a Stumpy when he had the option to ride the new Enduro 29. Even more surprised that the Big S marketing machine let him ride the older bike.

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    HDR275 - Sweep and Vector Air HLR. Be interesting to see what he actually rides though (we all know he has no shortage of bikes - bastard . Agree 100% on both your travel and two bike comments. Think CK brought the Stumpy for the same reason BL brought the Ripley, everyone underestimated how serious the track was going to be. Think the Syndicate boys were surprised also. Not sure what recon they all looked at but comment, after comment was on needing bigger rubber, how rough the course was and how fast the riders who know what to expect were. Really interesting to see how everyone adapted. Graves spending 5 weeks in Morzine tells me some teams are taking this a lot more serious now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    Is his HDR 26 or 275? Based on the normal European courses I think that anything less than 150 travel will be a mistake. Hopefully BL, CK etc have learned their lessons and will now travel with two bikes or a 275/130 and 26/160 setup instead of committing to just the smaller travel bikes. Not sure why CK brought a Stumpy when he had the option to ride the new Enduro 29. Even more surprised that the Big S marketing machine let him ride the older bike.
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    Selinak, def love for Gravy Train, picking top 5, this round will be the real test for sorting out the men from the boys I suspect, for following the true formatt of Enduro, so its going to come down experience and the French, Italians have allot of true Enduro experience.

    If it was me. Its another reason I wouldnt be riding or testing something new, riding essentially each stage blind on that terrain, I would want a bit more suspension true 160mm and so I can manoeuvre very quickly 26" wheels.

    Teams riders need to think on strategy thats what makes Enduro so cool, its not just a blast down a trail everyone has raped a million times, its got allot of unknowns.

    Im a big Manuel Ducci fan so hope he does well, his bike choice should indicate allot, Im still picking he will be on a std HD, Vengeance HLR/Vector for here, but will be interesting, I suspect he was riding some proto XFusion at Punta Ala.

    I don't know if Brian is even going to this one, pity if he is not, he clearly stated he's not doing all the rounds and has no interest so he says in being Enduro World champion, he has enough rainbows already

    I suspect many will get caught out again on the formatt alone, which is brilliant.

    This is the place, location where it all started, so expect it to be a tough one if Fred Glo has anything to do with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by seleniak View Post
    HDR275 - Sweep and Vector Air HLR. Be interesting to see what he actually rides though (we all know he has no shortage of bikes - bastard . Agree 100% on both your travel and two bike comments. Think CK brought the Stumpy for the same reason BL brought the Ripley, everyone underestimated how serious the track was going to be. Think the Syndicate boys were surprised also. Not sure what recon they all looked at but comment, after comment was on needing bigger rubber, how rough the course was and how fast the riders who know what to expect were. Really interesting to see how everyone adapted. Graves spending 5 weeks in Morzine tells me some teams are taking this a lot more serious now.
    Gravy was one of the few newer riders to Enduro who came to Rd 1 with his bike sorted though, dual ply Minions SB66c std and he was fit a lethal combo, Martin Maes was also running DH rubber front n rear, notice Nico flatted, very unlike him, he does and always did push technology and any advantage but you cant afford any mechanicals here.

    Interesting feedback from those guys you mention, these Enduro guys can ride, Jerome C is an ex DH World Cup top 100 rider and was one to watch back in the day.

    CKs choice really surprised me, I would have thought purely on marketing he would have ridden the Enduro since it was supposedly the bike to rule all bikes and wheel sizes,
    Even Anneke Beerten choose the 26" version Enduro over the 29" more strange decision since she practically won every warm up Enduro before hand on the Enduro 29er.

    Strange what too many options do to some people

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    I personally would be stoked to see Graves build on his stellar first round. He really did come ready for the terrain with 2.5" Minions and a beefy build of his SB-66c. I think Nico was running a Larsen rear...definitely less room for error. I'm sure that equipment helped quite a bit in the "oh $#it" moments. I read Graves' race report somewhere and it sounds like he had limited practice due to time and access. He rolled up in his Euro rental car to find guys getting shuttled up in ATVs/Quads and 4WD's. Sounds like the Enduro he was expecting is the Enduro he'll find this round.

    When I think of a 4X champion I think of practiced precision...something that wouldn't seem to translate too readily to blind Enduro. One thing we do know is that Graves is a type-A mind who will do anything he can to achieve a goal once he sets it. I'm pulling for Graves, just don't know if he'll repeat his round #1 performance. That being said I hope he does.

    I just read the overview of Mavic's new "Enduro" wheel and tire system that Jerome and other Mavic sponsored riders will be running. In addition to this unproven rubber we're looking at a 19mm internal rear rim width. Could be a sad panda few days for a few and I'm predicting multiple flats for those "encouraged" to use the new "system."

    I'm starting to look at round #1 with a bit of an asterisk given the fact that we had a lot of guys roll up expecting to ride almost blind racing against guys shuttling with massive team support. I think we'll really see who's got it here in round #2. I've got my e-cred down on Maes.

    Bottom line is that it'll be great to read about.

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    I'd say Fabien. The guy is just so pinned and let's not forget he has a dh worldcup background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick005 View Post
    Thanks for the link. Still disappointed in the lame coverage of what should be the biggest series in the US. Their courses make the Oregon series look like a kindergarten playground.

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    Top three, Clementz, Nico, Fabian. Not sure of their order, but they will all be on the podium. Other podium contenders Atherton, Maes, Ducci, Graves and Lopes if he shows. I don't think that Curtis Keene will make the podium. He has a lot to learn about riding at this level (I am sure he could beat my ass though!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    Top three, Clementz, Nico, Fabian. Not sure of their order, but they will all be on the podium. Other podium contenders Atherton, Maes, Ducci, Graves and Lopes if he shows. I don't think that Curtis Keene will make the podium. He has a lot to learn about riding at this level (I am sure he could beat my ass though!)
    Re CK

    So true though, plus he'd whip my arse as well!
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    Origonaldonk, Nico not on Larsens, he was on a proto I think, plus he was riding Lapieres new 27.5" Maxxis don't make the Larsen in 27.5" not sure if they will.

    Plus got to keep something for us 26" dies hards haha.

    Interesting on the Mavic system, I read that 2, while not a fan of narrow rims myself, I understand why they did it, I dont think they will have flats, AC and Jerome have been running those wheels for awhile, plus it is genuine UST so it should be better than most other systems, not worse.

    Mavic invented UST std with Hutchy, they have many years DH experience with the DeeMax, think they will be fine, plus they are Euro and they test in Euro conditions, I wouldn't be surprised if its been tested on the DH WC circuit for kicks.

    I personally wont be looking to buy a set, probably go SX if I was buying a set of Mavics, if not Enve then Hope on Stans Flows, my go too option, purley as hubs are so simple to service, light reliable, rims are easily replaced if dinged cracked, cheap too, stiff and light, and easily to source DT spokes and replace repair.

    That said I run Enves haha, but Hope on DT/Stans 2nd set.

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    Ahhh yes. You're right Mav. Too many Nicos in the mix and got them switched in my mind. I assume when we say Nico we all mean Nico V. the legend...but a few other Nicos may make some waves.

    Nico Quere, Commencal, on Larsen rear, Ardent front (27th Punta Ala)
    Nico Vouilloz, Lapierre, Hans Dampf rear, proto front (I think this is now the Magic Mary maybe?) (19th in Punta Ala)
    Nico Lau, Cube, same Hans Dampf rear, proto front (Crashed out)

    The prologue meant little at Punta Ala but all three Nicos tied for 5th.

    1/ Alex Cure 37.8
    2/ Fabian Barel 38.0
    3/ Cedric Gracia 38.1
    3/ Martin Maes 38.1
    5/ Nicolas Vouilloz 38.8
    5/ Nicolas Lau 38.8
    5/ Nicolas Quere 38.8

    It's a who's who of gravity oriented mountain biking. Kinda seems like a dozen or so guys could snatch top spot. Really excited about the blind format. Gonna be a ripper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalDonk View Post
    Ahhh yes. You're right Mav. Too many Nicos in the mix and got them switched in my mind. I assume when we say Nico we all mean Nico V. the legend...but a few other Nicos may make some waves.

    Nico Quere, Commencal, on Larsen rear, Ardent front (27th Punta Ala)
    Nico Vouilloz, Lapierre, Hans Dampf rear, proto front (I think this is now the Magic Mary maybe?) (19th in Punta Ala)
    Nico Lau, Cube, same Hans Dampf rear, proto front (Crashed out)

    The prologue meant little at Punta Ala but all three Nicos tied for 5th.

    1/ Alex Cure 37.8
    2/ Fabian Barel 38.0
    3/ Cedric Gracia 38.1
    3/ Martin Maes 38.1
    5/ Nicolas Vouilloz 38.8
    5/ Nicolas Lau 38.8
    5/ Nicolas Quere 38.8

    It's a who's who of gravity oriented mountain biking. Kinda seems like a dozen or so guys could snatch top spot. Really excited about the blind format. Gonna be a ripper.
    Ahh my bad, to me they're is only one Nico! yeah Vouilloz,
    yeah agree with your thoughts re rd 1.

    Me 2 the blind format is going to really test the riders and machine, Im thinking without mechanicals or injury JeromeC should be best placed to take it, Im staying with Fab Fabian 2nd from they're on its anyones guess, Id never write off NicoV, but age is upon all of us dam it lol

    Anyone of those guys SP you guys mention could be up they're and maybe an upset!

    Gravy is my sudo Kiwi since none of our Kiwis have stepped up to Enduro not at that level yet anyways, though Rosara Joseph is dominating the US series, be interesting to see her at a Euro event.

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    Re: Enduro World Series Round 2 Val d'Allos - France 29-30 June

    I wonder what bikes Maes and Atherton will be riding. The new GT Force just came out and the 650b + 150mm combo looks lethal for enduro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    I wonder what bikes Maes and Atherton will be riding. The new GT Force just came out and the 650b + 150mm combo looks lethal for enduro.

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    If they were to ride it, Id say it would be Maes though his pref is 26" also found a snipit where Dan said he will still be developing the 26" rig(his pref). Personally I think this is a good step because a few years from now where going to realise it was a big mistake to throw out the bath water.
    Everything has its place.

    But Dan will still be developing the rig he was riding at Punta, a hardcore line of GTs Atherton style is in the Wings, no pun again

    I prefer Dans ver than the new one just released, jmo its mean in an ugly sort of way and its grown on me, performance function ahead of aesthetics, I sort of like that in a modern way.

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    Not rd 2 yet, but something to wet the taste buds, this SuperEnduro is such an awesome series.

    I love Alpine locations, growing up in real high country region, must have rivers and lakes, I have to be near water, why I like RotoVegas region, not quite SI but best place in NI.

    This looks stunning location, makes me want to head down to Queenstown even though its not like this right now, snow storms and such and ruddy cold, have to settle for this.

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    Manuel Ducci 3rd

    Another Podium for Manuel & HD! congrats dude

    Cam Cole 5th fna brilliant Cam..

    Defending champ Davide Sottocornola having a hard time of it this year, bummer but, Manuel must be leading the series or very close, hopefully he can take the overall series!


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    I know its not EWS but Super Enduro, warm up for next week plus lots of Ibis content band Manuel Ducci just awesome

    Prologue!

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    Number 1 plate looking good on the HD



    Got to get a Flying Kiwi in here too!

    Cam Cole @ Warp speed


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    6 Days, 3hrs and the count down is on to RD 2 of E..W..S.......





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    Do you guys know where I can get Manuel Ducci's jersey? It's really nice and the color matches the hd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibismojo09 View Post
    Do you guys know where I can get Manuel Ducci's jersey? It's really nice and the color matches the hd.
    Its a One industries jersey, should be able to find one from them no problems, not looked, doubt oud be able to get all MDs sponsors logos

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    I know it's Italy and all that but what a lot of Marzocchis!
    Love the custom colours

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62 View Post
    I know it's Italy and all that but what a lot of Marzocchis!
    Love the custom colours
    Yeah bud those Italians really got style, you need to pick a colour bro, pimp your ride Italian Stallion styke!

    Braap, local Kiwi girl from here RotoVegas Gabby Molloy 3rd just behind the Gherig twins
    awesome Gabs! Top rider top chick too.



    Manuel ended up 3rd, pressure of the number 1 plate, reckoned he didnt sleep all week, next time MD, breath breath and count sheep lol.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick005 View Post
    Its a One industries jersey, should be able to find one from them no problems, not looked, doubt oud be able to get all MDs sponsors logos
    I know its one industries but is there a chance that they will sell exactly the same with all the sponsors logos specially the IBIS logo?

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    It may be a better use of your time to ask that same question to One Industries directly. Not sure if Mav has his finger on the pulse of One Industries as well as the people at One Industries. A 3 second google search and: customerservice@oneindustries.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalDonk View Post
    It may be a better use of your time to ask that same question to One Industries directly. Not sure if Mav has his finger on the pulse of One Industries as well as the people at One Industries. A 3 second google search and: customerservice@oneindustries.com

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    Different line choices, interesting how each rider sees it differently!




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    This is what an Enduro should look like organisers elswhere in the world, gotta feel for the poor dude that went for a swim in the raging creek lol.

    Can see why FullFace, back protections and knee pads are mandatory and why 26" are still dominant on the continent and why so many Zocchi 55s.


    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/69023094?color=ffffff" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/69023094">#SuperEnduro2013 - Italian Championships - PRO4 Madesimo - Highlights</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/superenduro">Superenduro TV</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    Great looking traxx. really miss Europe/Scotland sometimes

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    Those courses look awesome and I can see the difference in the way the pros come across the line vs us mere mortals. Sometimes I am so blown out by the finish that i can't even stand on the pedals. These guys are still 100% crushing it across the line. Guess I need to do more sprints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62 View Post
    Great looking traxx. really miss Europe/Scotland sometimes
    Get up into the Southern Alps bro should help

    So true SP, but they still pooped, haha, what about that dude that thought they're was a kayak leg still gets me lol!

    1 day to go people!

    AC has pulled out officially btw, aiming to be back @ round 3, prob good idea, only a week on the bike, more likely to re injure pushing at race pace too soon.

    Lets get ready to rumble! Enduro style

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick005 View Post
    Different line choices, interesting how each rider sees it differently!




    I want to corner like the first guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62 View Post
    I want to corner like the first guy!
    Thats Manuel Ducci on the HD bro, def awesome style aye!

    Btw me 2 lol

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    Double post sorry!

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    Stages have been released arghh, no doubt all insundry be up theyre measuring it out, should have waited another 24hrs imo!

    The map does look pretty cool though. Yeahaaaa!

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    In the past 6 years Clementz has won there 4x and Remy Absalon 2x (source)

    Granted none of the non-French 'contenders' wouldn't have been there, but still.

    I see those two in the top 5 with Barel, Gravy, and Vouilloz. Nico Lau is my wildcard.

    Should be an interesting race for sure.
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    BTW in did anyone else notice Sottocornola's (SP?) stem choice on his SC Nomad? Gondola 4:08-4:30? Go IBIS!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    BTW in did anyone else notice Sottocornola's (SP?) stem choice on his SC Nomad? Gondola 4:08-4:30? Go IBIS!!!!
    My first thought was dam thats long, maybe he likes a shorter frame
    longish stem combo, nice pick up though it was an Ibis one haha.

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    Since its all chairlift assisted looks like the big boys are going more DH capable!

    JeromeC is going to be running a 38t on his XX1 setup, barely clears his chainstay.

    The only get one practice run on each stage yayyyyyyyy

    Should sort the men from the boys aye!

    more oil, further details here


    Greg Minnaar at rd 2 Syndicate going for it, looks like a 36 on there!
    Greg spent the afternoon at the Fox truck working on finding the perfect balance between his front and rear suspension. The descents at Val d'Allos are long and have plenty of technical terrain. The need for pedaling still exists but be clear, there are no XC setups here.


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    Riders heading up for start of stage 1!

    Go Fabian

    Go Kiwis

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    Kiwi Jamie Nicol WTH sitting in an awesome possie!



    Ben Cruz out for rest of event big crash 50mph jobbie ouch, harder than DH
    longer runs pretty nar!



    Italian SuperEnduro Champ, letting everyone know, those Italians know a thing about custom!


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    Origonaldonk you called it, Jerome punctures!
    And Gravy hits the lead after stage 3 wow!

    Major upsets! Barel, Clementz, Atherton puncture and out of the running. Graves takes the lead with Minnaar 2nd and Vouilloz 3rd on SP3

    Ben Cruz's crash yeow!

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    Graves takes a 6sec overall lead into day 2 over Vouilloz. Minnaar now 3rd. Although, the longest stage is tomorrow and anything can happen

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    Pinkbike have some more great piccs, course is just so awesome, just envious of how these guys ride real trail for an event.

    Spot the HDs!





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    Rough day for the SuperEnduro guys from last week!

    Manuel Ducci in 30th



    DH boys back with a vengence, just know how to setup a bike to take the knocks maybe big tires no gimmicks

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    Rough day for sure. Can't believe how many top rides blew tires. Ben Cruz's crash video was BRUTAL! Exactly how a broke my elbow last year.

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    No Barel?
    continuous growth is the strategy of a cancer cell.

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    Sounds like Maes had a bit of a nasty crash as well. Lots of guys loosing a bit of bark pushing it hard. That Ben Cruz crash looks nasty. Graves seems to have his equipment dialed and has the confidence to try and find their limits. Sounds like Clementz was flying. I think he will fight his way back into the top 5. Not the best marketing launch for the new Mavic Enduro wheel/tyre/valve/valve cap/air system! I'd keep an eye on Nico Quere on Day Two. He looks poised for a move into the top 3.

    Thanks for staying on top of this Mav. Hope you don't get a keyboard injury hitting refresh!

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    Barel flatted.

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    Re: Enduro World Series Round 2 Val d'Allos - France 29-30 June

    The cream does tend to rise to the top.

    Any post-mortems on the punctures? What do they have in common?

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    Overall....


    1st Nico VOUILLOZ

    2nd Jared GRAVES

    3rd Greg MINNAAR

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    Chicks bikes of Val D Allos

    Valentina Macheda and her beautiful Ibis Mojo HD. She and her boyfriend Manuel Ducci Life Cycles!



    Flying Kiwi Rosare Joseph and her SB66c



    Pauline Dieffenthaler and Jerome Clementz are the fastest couple in the Enduro World! Riding for Cannondale / Mavic / SRAM



    Canyon are a Force, German Canyon Factory Racer Ines Thoma.



    Interesting Annekke still preferring to race the 26" Enduro over the new fabled 29er Enduro
    as is Tracey Moseley riding a Slash instead of the niner @ rd 1.



    Hannah Barnes, so hot, great rider too, haha.



    Will definitely be interesting to find out about the setups like tires that caused so many top riders punctures, for me on a course like this no pedalling to stages
    Then 2ply bigger forks piggy back shock for the long downhills were a must, punctures can happen to anything.
    But this was not a place to test light weight vs durability imo and very surprised so many top French riders got caught out that new this area.

    Ofigonal Donk you were right and def not a good look for Mavics new system, taken too far maybe.
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    So Clementz went 1/2/116/1/1/13 in the stages. Graves crashed twice giving up the win today, but takes over the championship lead. How rough was Stage 6? All DH guys in the top 10!

    We need tougher races here in the US. Pictures from Crested Butte show a bunch of people in skin suits and buffed out single track. LAME! Can't wait to see some pictures from the China Peak race today since they have some very rough courses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    So Clementz went 1/2/116/1/1/13 in the stages. Graves crashed twice giving up the win today, but takes over the championship lead. How rough was Stage 6? All DH guys in the top 10!

    We need tougher races here in the US. Pictures from Crested Butte show a bunch of people in skin suits and buffed out single track. LAME! Can't wait to see some pictures from the China Peak race today since they have some very rough courses.
    Yeah interesting interviews here, Gravesey fans have a listen to JGs thoughts very enlightening, he's aways on point which I like doesn't play cool or hold cards to chest you just get the real information, Tracey is onto it too.

    EWS year one def throwing in the curve balls aye.

    Stage 6 they had to ride twice as well.


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    Pinkbike piccs wrap up

    Groms aye, Ratboy cant handle the Jandal

    Fast out the gate but no stamina

    Amazing looking single track, just stunning riding conditions!

    Dan Atherton and the new 650b not going so well huh!

    Manuel Ducci also well down urghh

    Still 650b winner of both rounds in mens, but 26" still dominant and winner of women's this time.

    Wonder what Fabien is thinking about right now, bet he would love to be back on his favoured 26" 36 and Maxxis tires haha, 19mm rear rim yeah right not on this hill...

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    I imagine Fabien is not so enthusiastic about his sponsors. Seems he's not so pleased with Fox and the 15mm axle he's running and Mavic's 19mm rear. Try mounting Graves' 2.5 Minion on that thing...good luck.

    Do we know that all Mavic sponsored riders flatted in the rear (Barel, Clementz, et al)? I guess you ride what you're paid to ride. Even though I pay for my gear I get to run what I choose. Usually don't think of that when I'm dropping the coin but EWS Round 2 sure makes me appreciate choice.

    Tracks look intense. Lots of talented guys taking soil samples. Ouch.

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    What happen to Ducci, 30th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalDonk View Post
    I imagine Fabien is not so enthusiastic about his sponsors. Seems he's not so pleased with Fox and the 15mm axle he's running and Mavic's 19mm rear. Try mounting Graves' 2.5 Minion on that thing...good luck.

    Do we know that all Mavic sponsored riders flatted in the rear (Barel, Clementz, et al)? I guess you ride what you're paid to ride. Even though I pay for my gear I get to run what I choose. Usually don't think of that when I'm dropping the coin but EWS Round 2 sure makes me appreciate choice.

    Tracks look intense. Lots of talented guys taking soil samples. Ouch.
    Not sure the do a Minion in 27.5 yet ah lol just yanking yer chain though, I know what ya mean, be interesting to get more oil into if tires, wheel size, Mavics new rim, another supposed top contender Alex Lupato had to duct tape his chain stay haha!



    Yeah Fabian must be pulling his hair out, Take Tracey she runs her own team of sponsors so could choose what she wanted to ride not the sponsors!
    Im with you, got to be smart on reliability, my last Enduro, I ran a 2.4 HR2 up front. 2.35 Minion rear
    bit I flatted my rear 3 corners before finishing because I was a bit tired boosted a massive downhill root section came up short and snake bite my tube
    no risk no reward, I didn't stop jumped off and ran the bike over the finish line haha.

    Def intense huh, the variety this season is going to be just amazing I hope they dont try to sanitise it over the coming hears
    diggers sort the men from the boys, I love that all the riders felt it just shows Enduro is what MTB truly is about.

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    Best and most underated team manager in the paddock!

    Kathy S rox

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibismojo09 View Post
    What happen to Ducci, 30th?
    Not sure, maybe it was tiredness from the SuperEnduro the week before, pretty much all those riders were way down the field it was a 2 day event as well not allot of time for recovery, might be off but hey sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick005 View Post
    Ben Cruz's crash yeow!
    It's amazing how these Pro's manage to extend their forearm and cleanly roll off to reduce the impact. I had a nasty OTB crash last weekend and smashed down on my face :-(

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    Ducci was sick in the Italian SuperEnduro last weekend and probably still feeling the effects. Courses are definitely taking their toll on the bikes and riders. They are pushing the limits of what most builders think their bikes will be put through. BTW in the last three weeks I have seen a NomadC with a BENT, yes BENT lower link and a broken TRc seatstay and those are the only two SC's we have around. Not picking on SC because I think that a lot of manufacturers have similar issues.

    Mavic has definitely been out of touch with the market for a while now and their new release just shows that it will continue. 819's are still good so we can paint them yellow, put an Enduro label on there and call it good! Right It is really too bad because UST rims are awesome (I run Easton Havens which are full UST) and never have to worry about mounting tires up or leaks in the rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    Ducci was sick in the Italian SuperEnduro last weekend and probably still feeling the effects. Courses are definitely taking their toll on the bikes and riders. They are pushing the limits of what most builders think their bikes will be put through. BTW in the last three weeks I have seen a NomadC with a BENT, yes BENT lower link and a broken TRc seatstay and those are the only two SC's we have around. Not picking on SC because I think that a lot of manufacturers have similar issues.

    Mavic has definitely been out of touch with the market for a while now and their new release just shows that it will continue. 819's are still good so we can paint them yellow, put an Enduro label on there and call it good! Right It is really too bad because UST rims are awesome (I run Easton Havens which are full UST) and never have to worry about mounting tires up or leaks in the rim.
    Great info SP, interesting though he beat all of his SuperEnduro competition, finished ahead of David Sottocornolla, he won 4stages last weekend and 2nd @SE, also ahead of Alex Lupato and many others, so its definitely taking its toll.

    Now moving to the upper end of your guys next of the woods, no let up I suspect. Still be hard on bodies and bikes, be interesting to see what type of course they put up at Whistler (6-7 JULY LES 2 ALPES Crankworx Les 2 Alpes)

    I think re the rims they will work ok in more of the lack lustre common Enduro events elswhere in the world, Val d Allos was tough on everyone DH WC included, no one got away clean from theyre, to me thats what Enduro is, Ive done allot of MX Enduro in 80s/early 90s it was awesome but tough as hell, and no practice, hard on body and bikes, mtb event promoters in main have fot it wrong, which is why I love this
    EWS series its showing what mtb truly should be, you only have to listen to the US riders how beat they are but how much they are loving it.

    As for UST technology balance takes a year or too, but theyres still plenthy of options like Stans rims, Easton as you say, Enve and others, most run UST on std tires anyway and its easy to do with wire bead dual plys probably the most reliable setup and tire stability for an event like that one on that terrain.

    Would have been my setup, Stans on Hopes, Dual Ply 2.5 Minion fr/r Stans sealant just for example, still could flat though nothing ks indestructable, esspecially how these guys girls are pushing it.

    Good ole 819s lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberos View Post
    It's amazing how these Pro's manage to extend their forearm and cleanly roll off to reduce the impact. I had a nasty OTB crash last weekend and smashed down on my face :-(
    They just relax, at those speeds I always wear a neck brace as well, nasty crash, hope ya okay or recovered dude, just had a nasty crash myself last week still stiff but walked and rode away, I think they practice that shit, llus being super flexible aka fit it definitely helps

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    Re: Enduro World Series Round 2 Val d'Allos - France 29-30 June

    Man, I wonder if they build stages like that in Asia or South America. You got legit pros hitting the dirt hard and getting tuckered out.



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    Enve, et al are running UST beads, but still molding/drilling the rim bed so that the nipples can be mounted from inside the rim. Mavic and Easton are a solid bed and the nipples actually thread into the rims, but do not pierce them which is full UST. Much more difficult to manufacture but also much more durable. I just wish Mavic would make a proper 23-25 mm internal width rim that wasn't 650 gms!

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    ENVE rims have spoke holes that are molded, not drilled, so you've got continuous strands of carbon fiber throughout. Rims that are drilled break the carbon fiber strands and matrix. I'll buy whatever I believe if best for my budget and I decided to go with ENVE for that reason coupled with the pick your own hub option. That being said, no bad choices out there between ENVE and Easton the way they are pushing the tech forward.

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    Understood, I was really speaking to AL rim manufacturing/UST bead vs full UST and should have been more clear. Corrected in the post above. Not dissing on Enve at all, they make a good product.

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    Agreed that Mavic is losing market share quickly with their alloy rim specs and argument that Enduro/All Mountain riders are going to be concerned about the weight increase going from a 19mm internal to the 23-25mm you're looking for. People want to run larger tires and get the profile provided by a wider rim. The worst thing that happened to Mavic was Stans. Bringing wide rims and cheap alloy to the masses at a much lower price point.

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    Stans are a great rim ime, also For Mavic its not just the rim, 5-6 years ago most would buy a complete factory built wheel where as today most who buy a frame only probably get a wheel built to specc.

    Too many good aftermarket hub options, better colour choice, fork option with increased options in axle stds, plus proprietary stuff is usually a hassle.

    With good hub choice, rim and spoke, you can generally build a lighter stiffer wheel and if you do have an issue if you dont focus on bling can fix it anywhere world wide, I got caught years ago in 1999 cost me summer holiday, bike down, never again!

    Easton Ive always loved, the hubs not so much just too many issues and still to proprierty in Nzed to get support when you want it, I waited on carbon rims another 6months to see what my LBS would do, they were all running Easton carbon wheels as big Easton fans, when Enve AMs hit they changed and do did all they're customers, thankfully for once patience paid off, I love these things!

    I broke 3 spokes the other day when a dog not mine took me out!
    I could have been riding the next day If I wanted, spokes rebuild as soon as the guys were ready, dropped it off late arvo said if wanted ready next morning! Thats what I want from my product choices, just me, Mavic def not on my radar, not anti Mavic just found for me better options, better costs and more improtant better ROI in long term.

    Mavic not only had the best wheels in the 90s inclu hubs spokes, then they went cheap imo expanded range big time top tier became the Crossmark/max and was a downgrade compared to Crosslinks I had before them, I never had a hub issue in 2 yrs, never broke a spoke.

    Then came the new stuff always breaking spokes for no real reason no dogs either, still Ive always been a fan of 721s for DH or 823s!

    Latley Ive used Atomlab Pimplites, best rim for 2ply tire removal and installation ever, so easy I can change from drys to muds while others are struggling to get one bead off, probably wont change for that reason alone, plus stiff as and strong as an Ox.

    I sorted liked what they were trying to achieve with this new combo, but for the racer only never saw it as a viable option for me or maybe others, but like donk said before Rd2 they will fail and fail they did spectaculary, I mean taking out all your top riders is not good promo!

    They just have not addressed the needs of riders, pros maybe but not followed what the market wants, this is my nig concern with manafactures jumping on bandwagons, it might pay off in the short term, but blood will be spilt, market dictates in the end, why steel will never die, why the qr as much as I hate it will survive yadayada!

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    FYI on the Easton's they use standard straight pull spokes that are the same length for drive/non-drive/front available from multiple manufacturers. They do use a proprietary spoke nipple though. Most people complain about the freehubs and then you find out they have not done any maintenance on them in 12 months. I pull mine apart every 3-4 months and put a few drops of lube in there. Takes less than 3 minutes including pulling the wheel off the bike. Main problem with the freehub is the sealing sucks which is why you have to lube them so often.

    So let's start taking bets on Les Gets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    FYI on the Easton's they use standard straight pull spokes that are the same length for drive/non-drive/front available from multiple manufacturers. They do use a proprietary spoke nipple though. Most people complain about the freehubs and then you find out they have not done any maintenance on them in 12 months. I pull mine apart every 3-4 months and put a few drops of lube in there. Takes less than 3 minutes including pulling the wheel off the bike. Main problem with the freehub is the sealing sucks which is why you have to lube them so often.

    So let's start taking bets on Les Gets!
    More good oil buddy, you guys US side have more support from distis than us, our distis are small and most of our LBS are probably no bigger than most US LBS workshop size, here plenty people run Easton, I love the brand dont get me wrong, had theyre carbon bars from day one only carbon bar Id trust!

    That said the amount of time In NZed tourists or locals caught in the bling trap get caught out have to wait due to no spares at an LBS or Disti, or even worse an LBS has no clue how to work on proprietary shit is too often.

    Hence why you read allot of my post talk about product self service support and simplicity while maintaining the highest quality.

    Ive tried straight pull spokes not found it better for me due to less spoke count have not found it as stiff and supportive, I see Hope are doing straight pull 32h front and rear hub Pro 2s I would try em but only if I had spare spokes in my tool kit, tempting.

    I have just not found it beneficial enough to change for me, Ive always had some of the stiffest wheel builds around even in alloy by using great wheel builders, good parts pick, just works for me, probably never have a factory wheel again but as I said just me, I here ya on the lube, Ive had Hadley hub builds for 5 years never been touched, Kings pull apart once a year lube, Hope just run em never think of them, my DT is due I think just feels a bit notchy, deliberately been trying to see how it lasts.

    It would be interesting to see you ride some Enves back to back with your Eastons, think you would be surprised, either is a great choice if they suit your needs and can afford them, I would find it tough without them.

    Eastons in carbon, would definitely be my second carbon choice though, this may upset some but no way would I ride cheap Chinese copy"s!

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    I am with you on the Chinese versions. I don't think straight pull adds any stiffness and you don't really need more with the carbon rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    I am with you on the Chinese versions. I don't think straight pull adds any stiffness and you don't really need more with the carbon rims.


    Also,really good blog update here by Jared Graves you guys if not read it already will find very interesting and a full bike specc setup at the bottom including tires and suspensions PSIs love it, you da man Gravesy!



    Rd 3 here lads

    Thread round 3

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    Video of RD 2

    Thats a wrap!

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    A must watch, awesome video, just fantastic terrain and scenery!

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