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    Easton EC90 XC Carbon 26" vs. ENVE Twenty6 XC

    I've narrowed down my new wheelset choice to these two companies.

    Does anyone have any experience with these wheels?

    So far, this is what I have learned, from posts.

    Easton Hubs are not durable, customer service is not the best, turn around times are lengthy.
    Easton Carbons are UST certified!
    Inner width is 19mm
    Can use wheels up to 2.3"

    ENVE has great reviews and great customer service. I would go with the DT 240s Hubs, knowing they are amazing, still on my Titus for over 7 years and working great.
    ENVE Rims need a conversion kit to make them tubeless ready.
    Inner width is 18mm. Can use wheels up to 2.2"

    I'm leaning toward ENVE, even though they need Gorilla tape to make them tubeless ready.

    I am a XC/Trail rider. Will be going on an Ibis Mojo SL.

    Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

    Kevin

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    I'd go with the wider rim, UST ready Easton.

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    Alright, I'm going to throw the Fulcrum Carbon XRP into the mix here. Any one have experience with this wheelset?

    1347g weight, 19mm inner width, UST wheels, no tape needed.

    Thanks,

    Kevin

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    Id go with the wider Enve's AMs if i was willing to spend that kind of cash over any of the other options youve listed...but since im not willing to spend that on rims, i went with the wide chinese carbon rims

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    You do realize that even Stan's rims are taped on the inside?

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    Good job! Same here: ENVE.

    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    Id go with the wider Enve's AMs if i was willing to spend that kind of cash over any of the other options youve listed...but since im not willing to spend that on rims, i went with the wide chinese carbon rims
    If I was spending the OP's money for him, I'd spend it on the Enves.

    ...so which wide chinese carbon rims did you go with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    If I was spending the OP's money for him, I'd spend it on the Enves.

    ...so which wide chinese carbon rims did you go with?
    I think Just about everyone is going with the light-bicycle ones.

    As far as I can tell the DT 240s is the best rear hub out there (I just bought another one) when you consider weight (one of the lightest, only thing significantly lighter is the extralite which has its own downside), maintenance cost (very low), durability (very high) and reasonable warranty.

    That is a big reason why I went the route I did. I was seriously considering enve but decided I'd give light-bicycle a shot first.

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    yeah, light bicycle, theres an almost 80 page thread on the 29er version in the 29er components forum and a 26" thread in wheels

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    Thanks benja55, I'm leaning toward the ENVE wheelset, but really want to hear about the Fulcrum wheelset. Almost identical to the ENVE but, no tape required. Of course, the ENVE has the option of my favorite Hub, which is on my other bike, the DT 240s. I not sure but, I think the Fulcrum hubs are made by Campy.

    Thanks again,

    Kevin

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    Hi canuck_tacoma. I knew that! My other bike, Titus, has the Mavic 819 hoops, which are UST wheels, no tape needed. I currently have the DT Swiss Tricon wheels on my Ibis, also no tape required. Nice not to worry about changing the tape, every nth year.

    Thanks again,

    Kevin

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    Hi litany. Let me know how the light-bicycle wheels handle. Good alternative to saving some money. If they are as good as the Fulcrum/Enve, it would be a great choice. Good luck!

    Kevin

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    Hi clewttu. Thanks for the link! What do you think about the fulcrum wheels?
    FULCRUM Wheels - Products: Red Carbon XRP

    Thanks again,

    Kevin

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    Would it be possible to replace the hubs on the EC90s with another brand down the road or are the Rim/Spokes/hub proprietary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinK View Post
    Hi canuck_tacoma. I knew that! My other bike, Titus, has the Mavic 819 hoops, which are UST wheels, no tape needed. I currently have the DT Swiss Tricon wheels on my Ibis, also no tape required. Nice not to worry about changing the tape, every nth year.

    Thanks again,

    Kevin
    Understood........just pointing it out so that you don't overlook a good wheelset because of tape.

    Unless you're running UST, you should be replacing the sealant every year so doing the tape takes a few extra minutes per wheel. Out of all the pain in the butt things we have to do for our bikes, re-taping a wheel is pretty easy.

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    Hi Trashcanmike. If that were possible, it would make my decision really easy. If Easton gave the option to use any hub on the market, or a specific few, similar to ENVE, I would have already had them on my bike. I do love my DT 240S on my Titus though! Maybe Easton will rethink their hub position with this wheelset, maybe not. Tried to e-mail them, couldn't get through. Heard from multiple people their customer service is horrible.

    Thanks again,

    Kevin

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    I was researching carbon wheelsets at one point. Then came to my financial senses. BUT if I were to do it, it'd be Enve's. Like others said, Easton uses cheap Chinese-made hubs. Why spend $2k+ on a wheelset with crap hubs? For about the same $, you could build a sweet Enve AM wheelset with Kings.

    Or if you wanna save some $, build them with Hopes. They're much better than the DT Swiss, more pawls, good customer service.
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    Thanks myitch! Just found out the FULCRUM only offers a 2 year warranty, without any crash replacement program. Looks like, once again, I'll be leaning toward the ENVE wheelset.

    I've had DT240S hubs on my titus for over 7 years, with zero problems. The pawls are enough for my type of riding. I do love virtually zero maintenance, and durability.

    I'm trying to bring the rotational weight down on my Ibis SL, so probably go with the xc. Current wheelset on the Ibis is the DT Tricon, super strong, but, on the heavy side. I only do XC and Trail riding here in So Calif!. The rides I do in Utah, Colorado, are similar to Trail riding here. I have my Titus as my Trail/AM bike. That has heavy duty Mavic 819 hoops with DT240S hubs. Bullet proof.

    Thanks again,

    Kevin

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    Ah, dry SoCal. If you don't ride much in the wet and mostly XC, than the 240s and Enve XC seems like a good wheelset for you. Some save dollars, well compared to the Eastons with crap hubs or Enve AM's with Kings, and weight.

    If you consider 819's "Heavy duty" then yes, you're a more mellow rider on your equipment. The 819s are Mavic UST XC rim, but they are on the heavier side being double-walled rims but also very strong.

    I just can't myself to spend $2k+ on a wheelset. But if you can afford, more fun in rotational weight savings.
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    Hey myithc, Yeah, I keep my equipment in great condition. Pretty much 90% dry riding, and the other 10%, light, and I do mean light, humidity riding!

    Well, Ibis came out with a new SLR, which kicks butt, but, I couldn't justify buying another bike, when my bike is still kick butt! Its the SL version. So, I figured, after a few years of savings, treat myself to a nice wheelset. Should make my bike ride like a different animal.

    The current wheelset on the Ibis, DT Tricon, is trail/AM riding, light for AM, but, I really don't need that much strength. Now going for a reduction in rotational weight.

    Thanks again,

    Kevin

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    Kevin, for a light, stiff, strong XC wheelset I'm really happy with these. Fairwheelbikes built these for me. I saved further weight by using 25mm Stan's yellow tape vs the heavy Gorilla tape Enve supplies. They converted to tubliss using tube type tires no problem. They turned my Mojo SL into a rocket.
    Enve XC UST 26" rims with custom decals.28 hole. Bead width = 18.5mm. Internal rim wall width = 21mm.
    Sapim CX-Ray spokes.
    Extralite hubs. Front = 15mm TA. Rear = 36 POE.
    1169 grams.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Easton EC90 XC Carbon 26" vs. ENVE Twenty6 XC-enve_extralite_studio_02_1.jpg  

    Easton EC90 XC Carbon 26" vs. ENVE Twenty6 XC-enve_extralite_front_scale_1.jpg  

    Easton EC90 XC Carbon 26" vs. ENVE Twenty6 XC-enve_extralite_rear_scale_1.jpg  

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    Easton EC90 XC Carbon 26" vs. ENVE Twenty6 XC-img_3169_1.jpg  


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    WOW xc71!!! Awesome!!! Using the Stans tape, have you had any leaks or problems? Those are some incredible wheels, beautiful, light, and strong! What kind of wheels are you using? Dang, I have the same fork! What is the total weight of your SL? My SL is just over 24lbs.

    Did you look at other Carbon fiber, light, strong wheels before deciding on the ENVE wheels?

    Thanks again xc71, Awesome pictures and great information,

    Kevin

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    Here's a link of my bike when it was brand spakin new! Everything is the same, except tires!
    All Ibis Mojo SL (Super Light) Bike Builds Here!

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    I have Enve AM's on my HD and they're very sweet. Built up with Chris King hubs. They spin up well and feel great on trail.

    Also, I'm running them tubeless.

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    Sounds awesome Fassn8! What tires are you using on them? Thanks for sharing your experience on the ENVE wheels. Did you purchase from ENVE or another shop?

    Thanks again,

    Kevin

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinK View Post
    WOW xc71!!! Awesome!!! Using the Stans tape, have you had any leaks or problems? Those are some incredible wheels, beautiful, light, and strong! What kind of wheels are you using? Dang, I have the same fork! What is the total weight of your SL? My SL is just over 24lbs.

    Did you look at other Carbon fiber, light, strong wheels before deciding on the ENVE wheels?

    Thanks again xc71, Awesome pictures and great information,

    Kevin
    No leaks or issues with the Stan's tape.Did you mean what kind of tires I'm using?
    Front= Rocket Ron 2.4 EVO @ 490 grams
    Rear = Conti Race King Supersonic 2.2 @ 446 grams. I weigh my tires before purchasing as there's a huge difference in weights.
    My Mojo SL is 21.6 lbs. with a 150mm fork, wide riser bar, 2 x9 gearing, wide large volume tires.
    Just got a new Tune Alcantara saddle & power cordz cables I will be installing next week which should have the weight around 21.4 lbs.
    I looked at the Easton's, but found hub issues. Really liked the DT carbon rims, but no UST bead and I don't want to run rim strips.

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