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    Die cut protective tape for a Mojo?

    Howdy chaps,

    Has anyone out there taken the time to draft up some templates to get protective tape custom die cut for the Mojo? Would be pretty cool if someone had

    Or does everyone hand trim the pieces to fit on their bikes? What areas are you particularly careful of (downtube obviously, but anywhere else in particular?) Or have you just covered the entire bike (must be tempting )?

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    I hand cut each piece of protective tape when I first built mine up. It took a good 2 hours but it is definitely worth doing. Take the time to do it once nice and clean and it will last a long time. I am at almost a year and there is no perceptible damage to the tape.

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    3m clearbra is good, easy to work with (you can re-position it before it sets) and bomber. Not the cheapest option out there, but $20 worth is enough for the down tube, stays, and little bits to prevent cable rub.... twice.
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    I found that 2" wide tape is nearly perfect to protect one or two sides of most areas of the bike and little cutting is needed except for length. For instance, you could cover two sides of the chainstay, or one side of the down tube or top tube. Using 8mil to cover two sides at once is no problem. I used ISC Helicopter-Outdoor Grade Surface Guard Tape from findtape.com. 30 feet is enough for several bikes and costs $30. It's going on two years and the tape looks mostly as good as when I put it on. As long as it goes on before anything else, it is a fairly quick job.

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    ISC Racer tape (surface guard tape)

    I think that most Mojo owners use this stuff. It's simple, easy to use and better than other stuff (i.e. bonk, lizard skins) IMO because it's cheaper and you can use it wet or dry.

    http://www.iscracerstape.com/

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    Best tape available out there: ShieldZone

    Their tape is used to protect the leading edge of helicopter rotors. Lifetime warranty on the film. Film is very difficult to scratch and is very hard to nick. They will cut it to your specs.

    Note that the film is not cheap!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAPRO
    Best tape available out there: ShieldZone

    Their tape is used to protect the leading edge of helicopter rotors. Lifetime warranty on the film. Film is very difficult to scratch and is very hard to nick. They will cut it to your specs.

    Note that the film is not cheap!!!
    Sounds like this stuff is very expensive. It's just polyeurothane tape, same as Racer tape i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB'n Louie
    Sounds like this stuff is very expensive. It's just polyeurothane tape, same as Racer tape i think.
    david
    Polyurethane tapes are not made equal just as carbon fiber is not. In most cases you get what you pay for but that's not to say the cheaper stuff won't work for your purposes.
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    The Racers Edges tape http://www.iscracerstape.com/ is the same exact stuff that is sold by http://www.findtape.com/product173/I...ape.aspx?tid=7, it is ISC Helicopter-OG Outdoor Grade Surface Guard Tape.

    That being said having a Die Cast Template just won't work as well it would for say covering a motorcycle gas tank. When the Mojo frames come out of mold they are not all exactly alike and each size for the front is different. I have worked on my Mojo several times with the tape and its not that much effort to cut out the tape. In fact its kind of an enjoyable thing to perform, sort of soothing...can I have a cup of chamomile tea
    I have also had a couple of different rear triangles for various reasons so I know how different each one can be.

    I also have found that depending on how your cables and components are laid out you will place tape in different places. And depending on how I lay the tape down it can be cut is all sort of different patterns. Also after having the bike almost 2 years now I know where I have wear zones and they are not going to be the same for everyone. Where I ride has lots of sand and gravel so it really gets chewed up in front of the rear wheel by the chainstays. And everyone chews up the chainstays a bit different, watch your scratches and add tape as needed. Also be careful with the tape as it can also pull up the clearcoat after the tape has been on for awhile. Just a warning.

    I will have a short review I will be posting on the Racers Edge tape in the MTBR.com Pro Review section shortly.

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    I got my tape directly from Dan at ISC Racer tape. He's really interested in how the biking industry uses his tape. I hooked him up with Mtn Bike Action and they just took an ad out in the current issue. I think MTBaction is going to do a thrash test on it as well. Dan's a great guy to work with and hopefully, his tape will become more popular for the biking industry. It works great and there really isn't anything I would change to make the tape more user friendly or better suited to bike frames.

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    custom cut?

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    I custom cut auto bodyguard film for all points of wear and so far, so good, it's all working well.

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    Mojo Die Cut protective film

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    Howdy chaps,
    Has anyone out there taken the time to draft up some templates to get protective tape custom die cut for the Mojo? Would be pretty cool if someone had
    Yep, I've done that. It seems to be working pretty well. I found they are best applied when the weather is really warm, as the media softens to become more pliable/conformable and less prone to trapping air bubbles.

    (I wondered whether I should run up a bunch of sets and sell them to other riders if they were interested. Let me know, and i'll pull my finger out and do something about it...)

    I have a Medium frame, and have made the following shapes to cover my bike. As the rear triangle is common to all frames, the fit should be spot on.
    Main triangle
    - Between cable stops on the top tube
    - Underside of downtube (this is quite a long one, with cutouts for the bidon cage holes)
    Rear Triangle
    - outer face of seat stays (both sides)
    - between cable stops on top edge of both seat stays
    - outer face of chain stays (both sides, with the chain side linking up in line with the clear guard that came with the bike
    - between cable stops on top edge of both seat stays
    - the outer face of the bracing strut that spans the seat and chain stays on the non drive side.
    - inside the rear triangle near the dropouts on both sides, I have covered in there too to guard against accidental scrapes from the brake rotor touching the frame when you put the wheel in, and also a preventive measure should the chain drop off the cluster and rub the frame.
    - underside of rear triangle main body (under the cranks), this one cops a bit of crap.
    Because the body guard film is so thick, it is not conformable to all surfaces, so naturally, some areas that I would have liked to create shapes for, do not work well.
    Elsewhere
    I used any leftover spaces in the media for various size dots (20mm circles etc) for other rub spots as well as two big strips for the fork legs.
    I even have some shapes applied to the outer face of my xtr cranks (but hey, I'm getting really carried away now...)

    Here's some pics... hopefully you can see the shapes.
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    Nice!

    What are you using on the inside of the stays(black form fitting material)?
    I've got a couple of Lizard Skins on the chain stays(both sides of bike) in case I dump it in the rocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quattro
    What are you using on the inside of the stays(black form fitting material)?
    I've got a couple of Lizard Skins on the chain stays(both sides of bike) in case I dump it in the rocks.
    Oh that stuff is a high density foam rubber that I applied to the frame using a high bond double sided tape (called VHB). It cuts the chatter right down, and keeps the chain off the paint like a champion. I bought the rubber from a Clark Rubber chain store here in Australia, so I think it would be a pretty common most places.

    Good idea on the chainstay protectors though. My last dump on the rocks saw me under the bike protecting like mad and that hurts a beyatch.

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    There is a dedicated company in England that is making the tape..

    www.biketape.co.uk

    So a quick question, is the tape enough around the chain stays or should I put a Lizard Skin ( or something similar) on instead? Not sure if its entirely relevant but I will be running the 08 XT, I have heard the SRAM XO is better for stopping chain slap, but then you hear plenty of things!!
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    I'm interested! I will buy a full set! I sent you a PM awile back. Let me know.

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    @fishboy. Looks pretty cool. Why don't you make an offer for a full set .

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    Fishboy - That's exactly what I was thinking

    I'd be keen on a die-cut set of protective strips (though I'll have an SL, I figure it'l lbe pretty much the same, right?)

    Won't have my frame for a few months yet (probably April apparently ) but I'd definitely be interested!

    let me know how you go with working out a price

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    Mojo Protective Decals.

    Hi fellow Ibissians (or is that Mojovians?)

    Sorry for being slow on the Mojo protective decal set, but it's ready to go. The only hold-up now is that I'm but a few days out from my NZ mtb odyssey (Rotorua 24hr race, Karapoti Classic Wellington and heaps of trails in between) so I won't have enough time to send anything out before I go.

    I've worked out pricing for a basic set (and some options like rubber protectors for the rear triangle chainline and xtr crank guards) but need to check with Australia post for what an Express bag will cost to the US. If you are interested in a set, send me a PM and i'll be in touch when I get back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tensim
    I'd be keen on a die-cut set of protective strips (though I'll have an SL, I figure it'l lbe pretty much the same, right?)
    Do you think this is needed for the SL, rubber paint and all?
    How would the clear tape look on the matt SL? I would have thought it would be a lot more visible? Would it still adhere just as well?

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    I have seen a couple pictures of SL's with some protective tape. I think it is very noticeable and does not really look very good. Even so, I plan to use some tape too when I get my SL. I'm working to get my hands on some matte clear tape tape to see how it looks. I will certainly post pictures of the results. My SL is due in a couple weeks.

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    Protective decal kits - detail images

    Hi fellow Mojo riders
    I attach some detailed pics of the protective decals and protective rubber strips I created for my bike, that can be now found in a kit form. It's pretty comprehensive, and is outlined in a previous post. The rubber strips adhere to the frame, and are used to reduce chain slap damage to paintwork as well as reduce chain slap noise.
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    But wait there's more...
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    Protective rubber strips detail

    A length of high density rubber foam with adhesive backing to reduce chain slap paint damage and noise.
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    Wow.....

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    @ Fish boy,

    Looks like you got a good business idea there! You could make templates for most models of bikes and sell them as sets you could make a mint, why wouldn't people invest some money in keeping there expensive toys in good condition!!

    Show me (you) the money!!!

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    Hi Broom broom...

    Yep, ready and selling Mojo kits already... and I'm eyeing off my Anthem race bike in the study at the moment with a similar view (are Anthem riders as fastidious as Mojo riders? - what do you say Wheelhot? Well of course we are!

    I get the best results with a custom fitting, so really for this to work i'll need frames to work from. To make it work I'd need to discuss the practicalities with distributors and/or the guys at the LBS.

    Is there a mint in it? I don't know, but I'm happy to have people using my kit to protect their bike and not go broke in the process, even better if it helps me realise my Tranny obsession at some point in the future...

    So, can I interest you in a kit?
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    It sounds to me like you have a great reason to buy loads of bikes . . . "For custom fitting" I think the practicalities are difficult in organizing something like that but why would you need a distributor you could sell them on ebay until you can assess how much money you make. I'd buy a kit for definite all i need is to purchase a mojo frame to go with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH_WP
    Wow.....
    +2

    i haven't decided if i wanted to go this route or just say "f-it, it's a mountain bike"



    ps does this stuff stick to the new paint on the sl's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mx_599
    ps does this stuff stick to the new paint on the sl's?
    Not sure myself. I have sent 2 sets to Roxy and Scott, so hopefully they will test one on the SL paintwork.

    I've also had requests for a matt finish version, and I am going to look into this for the SL riders out there...

    I've just been riding, and now i'm smiling!
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    Until Fish find mat tape, I've decided to use gloss 3M tape I had on hand and cut shapes by scissors using selfmade templates. The result is not wrong, although plotter cut arcs and curves look even better. I've put also piece of thick carbon-look tape around BB on drive-side to protect the frame against chain fall (idea for Fish).

    I've also applied my "original" proven rear wheel mud guard design to protect linkages, front mech (and rider).

    Fishboy, if you complete matt tape kit, please let me/us know.
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    film

    Originally I used 3M tape (scissor cut) to protect my frame. I got a Fishboy film kit and it looks so much better than what I had before.
    I'm happy to recommend it to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG
    Until Fish find mat tape, I've decided to use gloss 3M tape I had on hand and cut shapes by scissors using selfmade templates. The result is not wrong, although plotter cut arcs and curves look even better. I've put also piece of thick carbon-look tape around BB on drive-side to protect the frame against chain fall (idea for Fish).
    Hi Peter.
    Nice job you've done there.
    I have a decal in the kit that goes on the underside of the rear triangle (i've called the BUM), and the downtube decal rolls under the BB, but i'll see if I can fit those side pieces around the BB into the pattern. It's a good suggestion.
    Now build that baby and ride, ride, ride...

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    Hi Alan, pleased to hear that. Please let me know (e.g. by e-mail), when you have mat decal kit. The helicopter tape I've used is ca. 0.25 mm thin and flexible, so could be wrapped down around seatstays, but thicker one would offer better protection.

    Unfortunately I'm still waiting for the handlebars, stem and some small parts (the frame arrived ca. 6 weeks earlier than claimed). The weather here is also not very friendly to the bikers, so there's no need to hurry up too much.

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    peterg

    nice job! that must have taken awhile.

    i like your rear fender idea. can i ask how many grams it adds to pre-build frame? jk

    seriously, do you mind me asking which brand fender? any other details? i am having a brain fart, you know what would be cool, you know those cheap water catch trays that go under plants?? it would be cool to have a thin clear plastic that was of that thickness that was molded right. something that was cheap and just enough to keep roost from spraying. something that you could replace every once in awhile. or maybe it would look like crap...

    also. what do you have on the down tube in the last photo?

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mx_599
    peterg

    nice job! that must have taken awhile.

    i like your rear fender idea. can i ask how many grams it adds to pre-build frame? jk

    seriously, do you mind me asking which brand fender? any other details? ....

    also. what do you have on the down tube in the last photo?

    thanks

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    Rear fender is 56.3g incl. rubber O-ring, down tube rock-guard adds additional 50.0 g (incl. PAD bolts). They are modified standard plastic mudguards made by French Zéfal company (type Classic), that are the best semi-product for this purpose.
    http://www.zefal.com/AAA/page.php?no...eVTT&langue=an
    http://www.zefal.com/AAA/BASES/PRODU...od229imgHR.gif

    Rear fender is made from front Zefal mudguarg (it's bending fits well the wheel).
    Down tube one is made from rear mudguard (greater radius of bending) using a hot air gun to straighten it out carefully. BB fitting and top arc is done by jigsaw and cleaned by sand paper. You can see more detailed photo at http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...18563#poststop

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    thanks, i missed that other thread.

    is there a reason you let the fender hang far down below the bb? did you consider trimming it closer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mx_599
    ... is there a reason you let the fender hang far down below the bb? did you consider trimming it closer?
    To protect BB tube from stones flying from the front wheel. It's no problem to trim it later, if I decide to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG
    Hi Alan, pleased to hear that. Please let me know (e.g. by e-mail)
    Hi Peter, well some extensive looking about and querying of various distributors and importers it appears that there are no paint protective films with a matt finish available (at least here...)

    I agree the matt would look cool on the SL frame, but I think what you have done with the gloss is pretty cool from where I'm standing.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG
    The helicopter tape I've used is ca. 0.25 mm thin and flexible, so could be wrapped down around seatstays, but thicker one would offer better protection.
    The 3M stuff you have used is pretty good stuff though I have opted for a thicker .36mm protective decal in my kit. It does mean that on complex shapes the film may not be as conformable, but this is where a little care comes into play.

    Keep the rubber side down.
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    Not only am I impressed with your ride, your patience as well. You obviously have steady hands.
    Which parts would you ( it is quite obvious ) to be the hardest to cover. I imagine you may have wasted some tape perhaps from not placing it correctly , am I correct ? Easy it does not look...
    Finally, how will the bike's paintwork hold up against all that adheisive once you change , if ever you need to change the tape. I doubt you will, but I thought I'd ask...
    Outstanding color by the way. Mine's coming in raw carbon : black as the nite !

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    Hi Rich.
    Cheers mate.
    I think you will find putting the decals on is not as hard as it seems. I include instructions and if you start with easier areas, and then gain confidence you should get a good result first time. You can always email me and I will give more advice if you are unsure of what to do next.
    The film is used to protect cars from stone chips, so assuming you have a good paint job, the finish shouldn't be affected at all. There is no adhesive residue when you remove or replace the decals, so you can replace the decals as and when you need with confidence. If you've painted stone chips, or resprayed an area and it's not cured properly before application, then I expect you could lift the touch up off.
    Keep the rubber side down and enjoy.
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    PeterG, your rear mudguard looks great. Very simple and effective. I may well try and do the same. Riding my new mojo recently I've noticed how all the pine needles around here tend to get caught up in all those nooks and cranny's. Very irritating to clean out after a ride!

    Good job!

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    Thanks for your rapid reply, just like a good mojo rider !
    Today, is my final day 's ride ( and it'll be for some time... ) with my Spec' Stumpy Expert '07, as tomorrow I will be touching up my Mojo and if she gives my any grief with the decals be sure I'll be in touch !
    Thanks again Fish.
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    wow PeterG, your bike looks radical!. The SL paint cause the bike not to look as shiny as the original but its claim to be easier to clean which is welcomed.

    Dang, Im sure you can make your SL look totally custom with sticking the sticker at certain part of the frame to make it shiny, it will look totally unique and awesome!.

    Good job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    wow PeterG, your bike looks radical!. The SL paint cause the bike not to look as shiny as the original but its claim to be easier to clean which is welcomed.

    Dang, Im sure you can make your SL look totally custom with sticking the sticker at certain part of the frame to make it shiny, it will look totally unique and awesome!.

    Good job!
    Thanks.

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    Just installed the Kit. Fantastic! Great job Alan.
    Thanks.

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    I want a complete set. Fishboy please get back to me.

    Cheers.

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    Protective Decal Kit... detail pics.

    Hi there.
    I'm adding a couple of pics of the head tube decal as a few guys have been a little uncertain as to placement. I'll add the seat tube decal when I get a chance to snap some more pics.
    I have updated instructions too, to make the job easier.
    As always, any questions you have - just drop me a line and i'll help you out.

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    I decided to go with fishboy's kit as well. It looks very easy to work with and should be quite resistant to minor scratches and gouges.

    fishboy- you have a PM and Paypal $$. Please respond and confirm via PM.

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    Get some protection.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMountain
    I decided to go with fishboy's kit as well.
    Thanks. If you have any Qs regarding installation, drop me a line.

    Now fellas... get some protection for the love of your life... you wouldn't want to get her knocked up while you're out just having fun now would you

    I have kits in stock now.

    Enjoy.
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