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    Anyone else running Wolf Tooth 1x?

    I recently discovered Wolf Tooth components through a friend he set up his bike 1x10. I thought I would give it a try, so far after 3 rides, no dropped chain. I decided to go with a 32t ring with a 11-36 cassette.

    Living in Gunnison, CO I thought the 32t maybe be a little tough on steeper climbs, especially in Crested Butte, but on the other hand a 30t I would be spun out on most downhills. I'm still spun out on the dh's, but I may try to get a 10t for the cassette if possible.

    Best part is I dropped a pound, yes a pound off my HD and it's really noticeable! Price per pound upgrade was $78. So stoked on this upgrade so far! My HD now weighs 28.4lbs.

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    I'm running one as well (34T with 11/36 on the rear). I'm still running a full chain guide with mine but at some point will try to drop the bottom guide. Before running the Wolf Tooth chainring, even with a Shadow Plus rear der I would occasionally pull my chain off the chainring to the outside when hammering in my 11T cog (even with the full top and bottom guide), which ruined the last race I did, so for now I'm fine with the probably overkill combination of full chain retention, clutch der and the narrow-wide chainring. No issues after about one month. Hopefully the chainring lasts longer than e13 chainrings, those things wear out fast and the WT is twice as expensive.

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    I am running one as well. I have only had one ride on it so far. I am running it on a ripley 1x10 with xtr shadow plus and just an outer bashguard and didn't drop the chain at all. So far so good, we'll see how it goes. I don't know how anyone rides without a bashquard of somesort though.. atleast out here in the east, it's hard not to hit at most places I ride
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    Have been running one on mine for over a month now and havent dropped the chain once. Have it 1x10 with xt shadow der and a raceface bash, last ride I went out on I had the clutch system off on the rear der and still didnt drop the chain. Awesome product and highly recommend it.

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    Same with the others... running a 34 and 36 ( for enduro races only ) and haven't dropped a chain yet...

    I have a slightly different setup though... i'm using a NSB 1x 104bcd spider for the X0 crank, and then standard WTC 104 34 and 36 chainrings as I wanted to avoid any screwy proprietary offset patterns ( xx1 ). With my setup I can now run any 104 bcd fat/skinny chainrings.

    Regardless, the chainrings have held up great to 3 BME race/practices and about 50+ miles per week of riding for ~3 months now.
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    i am running 32 teeth narrow/wide from race face. pretty much same thing for 1/2 price. have about 200 miles on rough colorado front range trails. no dropped chain so far. no guide or tensioner. just clutch rear der. great upgrade.

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    I'm running one on my SL-R. I dropped a chain on the second ride, then installed an MRP 1x upper guide. No drops since. I've got a picture up in the SL-R picture and build thread.

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    Will be using it when I convert my drivetrain to XX1, as I ill be keeping my XTR cranks.

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    Has anyone been able to test real differences between the "classic" 1x rings like the Bling Ring and the new generation wide/narrow teeth rings? I run 1x10 w/ a Type 2 RD, Bling Ring 32T and a skid plate from MRP G2 Mini (both guides removed) and I have yet to drop the chain from the Bling Ring.


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    Silence is golden....

    Not running a NW at the moment but have a Wolftooth 30T on order. Running an Absolute Black 30T at the moment. Love this setup though, complete silence from the drivetrain.

    Once the Wolftooth is installed I'll experiment by removing the top guide and sticking it in my back pack. It will be fine for most of my trail riding but will see how it performs on brutal French Alpine trails.
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    Are you guys running these with just regular Shimano/KMC 10 spd chains, or have you switched to a SRAM 11spd chain when you did the upgrade. I'm wondering if the narrow/wide profile works with the standard Shim/KMC 10 spd chains.

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    standard chain

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    Standard 10 speed KMC for me.

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    Anyone else running Wolf Tooth 1x?

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    I love the silence, but keep finding myself spun out on downhills with the 32t-11t. I can see the advantage of the 11 speed, with the wider range. Damn you Sram!

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    I've had a 32t WT chainring on my bike since March. Only one dropped chain, but it was from a large impact, straight onto my crank, and high speed in a compression. Not much short of a full DH top&bottom guide would have prevented.

    Setup: Mojo HD, 32t WT ring, RaceFace SixC cranks, Straitline bashguard, 11-36 XT cassette, Zee derailleur, 10sp KMC chain.

    I'm throroughly impressed and pleased with this setup. I think it is one of the best "innovations" in mountain biking since suspension and clipless pedals....

    edited to add: since we're midway through a particularly wet summer up here in the North East, I should say that wear seems to be minimal and that after a wet spring and early summer performance hasn't changed.
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    is anyone running one w/o a clutch type rear d?

    how effective does it become without that piece of the puzzle.

    I saw someone in here had the clutch type off...but I think with the clutch off, there is still more tension than a regular rear d, correct?

    Thanks

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    man when I read posts like this it just makes me realize how horribly out of shape I am and how poor of a climber. I've visited my brother in law out in CB and can't imagine having to ride uphill there.
    Hell I need my granny on my 3x10 set up here in MD for some hills.

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    Running a 32T RF Narrow-wide on my Ripley with Shadow+. Took off my e13 XCX and tried no guide in front. First ride I dropped the chain twice...so I put back on my guide again.

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    Been running a WT 30 for about 4 months now with an XT clutch der and 10sp chain. No chain guide or bash guard. So far, zero dropped chains and no rock strikes and we ride pretty technical rock gardens routinely. It's been a great combination in my opinion.

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    I've been rolling the 30T for the last few weeks and am pretty pleased. I dropped a chain whilst crashing, but otherwise it's been flawless. Setup is SLX crank, Ultegra 10sp chain, XT 36T cassette, Zee derailleur.
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    Just threw a 30T Wolf Tooth on my SLR, took off the chain guide and I love it. Only thing I can hear on the bike is my CCDB air cycling, crazy, no drops yet!

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    I got about a month on the 32T wolftooth with XX1, no drops whatsoever. Even on the chunder. No guide, just a bash ring

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    Update: For some reason I have been dropping my chain lately. Thinking my chain was a little too long. I just put a 34t on and took out another link.

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    man, so for a little extra peace of mind for an upcoming enduro race I procured one of these for my Mojo HD to run in conjunction with my Wolftooth ring:
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    doesn't fit grrrr I thought I'd found the perfect setup, but the upper bolt of the lower link is maybe two mm too wide and pushes the arm of the guide in, which in itself isn't a big problem for occasional use, but the darn thing also rubs in the upper three cogs... which you wind up using in a race I presume.

    anyways, I guess I'll be running this guideless at Killington Vt this weekend, should be a true test of the WT holding prowess. I'll keep youz posted.
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    Anyone else running Wolf Tooth 1x?

    32 Raceface N/W with XTR+ on XT triple with bash. Two dropped chains in the last few weeks since I've got it. No dramas both times. Chain is right length, can't go any shorter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robnow View Post
    32 Raceface N/W with XTR+ on XT triple with bash. Two dropped chains in the last few weeks since I've got it. No dramas both times. Chain is right length, can't go any shorter.
    Have you tried increasing the clutch tension on your xtr+? When I first got mine I had a couple chain drops with in the first week of use. I increased the tension and have not had a chain drop in over 6 months. Worth a try if you haven't already.

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    I picked up the Black Spire Einfachx direct mount guide as a just-in-case measure - it didn't fit my HD well at all on a 32T ring, even after I messed around with BB spacers and whatnot. So, back in the tickle trunk it goes...

    Quote Originally Posted by slyfink View Post
    man, so for a little extra peace of mind for an upcoming enduro race I procured one of these for my Mojo HD to run in conjunction with my Wolftooth ring:
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    doesn't fit grrrr I thought I'd found the perfect setup, but the upper bolt of the lower link is maybe two mm too wide and pushes the arm of the guide in, which in itself isn't a big problem for occasional use, but the darn thing also rubs in the upper three cogs... which you wind up using in a race I presume.

    anyways, I guess I'll be running this guideless at Killington Vt this weekend, should be a true test of the WT holding prowess. I'll keep youz posted.
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    I suspect that if Hope made that guide with a Direct Mount option, then it would work.
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    I wonder if this would work:

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    link: Chain Keeper Direct from Paul Component Engineering

    Though it's not clear to me if it can be run with a bashguard.
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    bodge job

    Anyone else running Wolf Tooth 1x?-photo-4-.jpgA mate gave me his old busted MRP. Bit of hack-sawing and now a neat little top guide. Mated to 30T Absolute Black chainring. Can drop the guide super low with the spiderless cranks.
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    Wanted to give an update.

    I decided to go with a 34T on my Ripley up front and tried Wolf Tooth this time over RF. The tooth profile is definitely longer and wider than the RF. I just tried the bike out on the same trail that I dropped my chain twice with using the RF Narrow wide. This time, no chain drop. I think I'll stick with the wolf tooth for now. Of course more riding and testing will need to be done.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcgong View Post
    Running a 32T RF Narrow-wide on my Ripley with Shadow+. Took off my e13 XCX and tried no guide in front. First ride I dropped the chain twice...so I put back on my guide again.

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    For some reason I keep dropping my chain on rougher descents. Is anyone else having issues? I'm wondering if my rear derailleur clutch is wearing out. It's bumming me out man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnirider View Post
    For some reason I keep dropping my chain on rougher descents. Is anyone else having issues? I'm wondering if my rear derailleur clutch is wearing out. It's bumming me out man!
    I have had the same issue. It even happened pedaling hard over some chop. I went from a 40/28 to the 36t wolftooth. I didn't shorten my chain right away because I figured if it can handle the 28t, it shouldn't be too bad on the 36t. My first thought to rectify the issue though is taking out a link. Also, I got my Shadow Plus about a month after they first came out, so almost two years old now. I'm thinking maybe it's either gunked up, or perhaps needs the tension increased (which appears easy to do from the walk-thru on pinkbike). I'm thinking it has to do with the amount of chain growth on my single-pivot ASR-C, and when the chain ungrows (??) during travel rebound, the derailleur isn't taking up the slack quickly enough. It bounced off 3 times during my last ride, and with no guide it seems to like to bounce off and catch on the pedal axle, immediately stopping pedaling, not so good. I'm hoping shortening the chain and cleaning/tightening the clutch will take care of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnirider View Post
    For some reason I keep dropping my chain on rougher descents. Is anyone else having issues? I'm wondering if my rear derailleur clutch is wearing out. It's bumming me out man!
    I'd suggest checking your chain length and wear. Then adjust the tension on your clutch. Perhaps chainline too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgong View Post
    Wanted to give an update.

    I decided to go with a 34T on my Ripley up front and tried Wolf Tooth this time over RF. The tooth profile is definitely longer and wider than the RF. I just tried the bike out on the same trail that I dropped my chain twice with using the RF Narrow wide. This time, no chain drop. I think I'll stick with the wolf tooth for now. Of course more riding and testing will need to be done.
    Any update on this? Could you expand on the differences between the two rings more? Some pictures would be awesome

    I ask because I am about to place an order for the RF ring, but not if I still need to run a chain guide with it.

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    Rode a little more on the ring. Dropped the chain once yesterday on a rock garden that was pretty rough. Other than that, it has been working pretty good. I think I'll leave the chain guide off and put it on when I know I'm going to ride a trail that is pretty rough. I only use a XCX top guide.

    I'll try to get a picture up later of the two rings. Basically the RF is just like the original one, they just made every other tooth thicker. The Wolf Tooth, the actual teeth look longer and are wider (when you are looking at the chainring laying flat on the table and looking down at it straight on).

    On another note, the Wolf Tooth and RF has solved my issue where when I dropped my bike, the chain would come off. Here was the thread that I posted. Issue is resolved.

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    Shortening the chain and increasing the tension on my xtr+ clutch a quarter-turn seems to have solved my problem also. At least no drops on this ride, which includes a fast rocky descent that used to cause drops with my 2x10 before I had the shadow+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLd View Post
    Shortening the chain and increasing the tension on my xtr+ clutch a quarter-turn seems to have solved my problem also. At least no drops on this ride, which includes a fast rocky descent that used to cause drops with my 2x10 before I had the shadow+.
    Thanks for the tips. Chain is at it's shortest length to compensate for chain stay growth. I actually had to add one link because I moved up from a 32T to a 34T. My Shadow+ clutch is tightened down pretty good. More than a quarter turn I would say.

    Overall, still happy with the ring. Once in while chain drops I can live with.

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    Wolf Tooth vs Raceface Narrow Wide

    Here is a pic of the two chainrings side-by-side. The RF is 32T and the WT is 34T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    i am running 32 teeth narrow/wide from race face. pretty much same thing for 1/2 price. have about 200 miles on rough colorado front range trails. no dropped chain so far. no guide or tensioner. just clutch rear der. great upgrade.
    +1 for NW from Raceface. I run a MRP AMG guide (no bottom wheel - Mountain Racing Products home of MRP, White Brothers, Kreitler, Tamer, and Power Grips | AMG) for chain ring protection purposes though
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    Another custom

    Wish MRP made the All-Mountain Guide in a Mojo HD compatible version. Yes, I know the BB mount style would work but my experience is that with a decent rock or root impact, the guide can rotate causing some minor difficulties on the trail. Also, i already own a MRP G2 Ibis...

    So following Dibbs_ lead (see above), I went with a custom mod of the preexisting G2. Combined with a wolf tooth 32T it makes for a pretty quite and so far very secure setup but (different from Dibbs_) retains the lower bash guard.

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    First run on my 32t Wolf Tooth direct mount chainring (in 140 rear + 150mm front guise). Blown away! Great retention (combined with an XT Shadow Plus med cage rear derailleur), didn't lose a chain over any tech. The fact its super quiet now, plus the bike lost a good chunk of weight, is easier to clean around the linkage area, and now has more ground clearance at the BB area, all means I am a very happy chappy!

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    Oh BTW I installed a new chain with the WT chainring, shortening it one link at a time till I was happy with the length. The Plus rear derailleur was also new. Loving the slightly crisper shifting that comes with the clutch derailleur (at least that what I found).

    Would I ever run a guide? Perhaps if I switched back to 160mm rear mode for some DH work, yeah. That is a rarity for me though, 90% of the time the 150f/140r setup suits my riding style and trails better.

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    Been trying this over the last week as well, direct mount to the crank great power transfer feels stiffer than the XX1 it replaced.

    Maybe because that was well worn in part but direct mount no bolt pattern definitely adds to stiffness, will be interesting to see the life I can get out of it, definitely seems very durable and sturdy yet light.


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    I've been thinking of going the 1x10 route on my Ripley for some time now. I'm running Shimano XT right now and I've got a 26/38 in the front. I maybe use the 38 ring 5% of my time, and even then its not necessary since I'm not maxed out in the rear. I'm just not sure what size I want to go with, 30 or 32. I'm not worried about losing speed, I'm more concerned with the effects it will have on my climbing, as a lot of my local trails have some fairly steep climbs. Thoughts?

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    Re: Anyone else running Wolf Tooth 1x?

    Quote Originally Posted by zeppman View Post
    I've been thinking of going the 1x10 route on my Ripley for some time now. I'm running Shimano XT right now and I've got a 26/38 in the front. I maybe use the 38 ring 5% of my time, and even then its not necessary since I'm not maxed out in the rear. I'm just not sure what size I want to go with, 30 or 32. I'm not worried about losing speed, I'm more concerned with the effects it will have on my climbing, as a lot of my local trails have some fairly steep climbs. Thoughts?
    I am going to assume you have a 36cog in the back.

    30t x 36cog will give you approximately the same ratio as your 26t x 32cog (second largest cog)

    32t x 36cog = 26t x 28cog (third largest cog)

    So basically if you are ok climbing in your 26t x 28cog, you should be good to go with 32t.

    Me personally, I use a 30t on my 29er and sometimes on long rides with lots of climbs 28t...

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    BTW, I have just ordered a 30t direct mount gxp wolf tooth. I have been also using a 30 and 28 MRP bling rings in 1x10.
    I will go with 1x11 next.

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