• 01-18-2013
    krandrus
    I'm out, I ordered a sworks stumpie as I could not wait for a bike of unknown proportions. Just knowing the top tube length and a rough delivery date may have made me wait, but the total lack of info made me go for an alternative.
  • 01-18-2013
    D_Man
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by krandrus View Post
    I'm out, I ordered a sworks stumpie as I could not wait for a bike of unknown proportions. Just knowing the top tube length and a rough delivery date may have made me wait, but the total lack of info made me go for an alternative.

    It does seem hard to know why the geometry can't be posted if the bike really and truly is close to delivery.
  • 01-18-2013
    hanssc
    We think it will be more relevant if ride impressions accompany the release of the geometry info.

    H
  • 01-19-2013
    simenf
    Wise idea to have credible reviews back up your product if the specs are unconventional. Might indicate that angles are unchanged?


    simenf - brainwashed by the big wheel mafia.
  • 01-19-2013
    Rick Draper
    Had mine delivered the other day. First ride tomorrow.
  • 01-19-2013
    Maverick005
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Had mine delivered the other day. First ride tomorrow.

    Piccs Rick or it didn't happen:D
  • 01-20-2013
    simenf
    Yeah, pic with today's paper ;-)


    simenf - brainwashed by the big wheel mafia.
  • 01-20-2013
    rsa
    Would be nice if Ibis takes some lessons from CC and works on the "under promising and over delivering" in the future. I was on the fence a couple years ago between buying a Sultan or waiting on the Ripley. Thank goodness that I went ahead with the sultan. It's a great bike, great company, made in the US...

    I'm now thinking about my next bike, and have a very sour taste in my mouth with the way the ripley has been hyped, without so much as geometry?? I'm not plunking down a cash deposit on a concept, and not willing to keep waiting on a bike that's likely going to be hard to demo. In terms of waiting for the first ride impressions, those reviews will be coming from dealers and people who have been waiting for months if not years. Many of these are loyal to the ibis brand. I'm sure the reviews will be great, just like those for the burner, tallboy, rip9, etc.

    This is just my opinion.
  • 01-20-2013
    honkonbobo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hanssc View Post
    We think it will be more relevant if ride impressions accompany the release of the geometry info.

    H

    i get that to a point but i am a tall guy and need to know if the largest size is going to have an ETT in my ballpark. at this point IBIS doesnt make anything that fits me and hoping that will change.
  • 01-20-2013
    snowdrifter
    Ripley believe it or NOT!!!!

    Ibis is bush league when it comes to delivering a 29er.
  • 01-20-2013
    mazspeed
    You guys do realize that Ibis is not a company with hundreds of people right? Things take time. They don't rush stuff out like specialized just to fill a hole. Give them time. They only have around 7-10 people that work there. They cannot release the bike early because of hundreds of potential problems, new parts not fitting or testing issues that come up, getting the geometry just right, layup corrections, making sure all the parts work within the suspension system, shock tuning, getting fox to build a shock to many specs. All of this has to be sorted out before production, then you have production problems that always come up. If they release the bike early with issues, that can and will destroy a company faster than anything. They cannot afford to do that. These things take time. Lots of time to do it correctly. If you spend $2500-3000 on a frame, you want it right the first time. It's not biking season. Give them a break.
  • 01-20-2013
    lazarus2405
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mazspeed View Post
    They only have around 7-10 people that work there.

    Twelve, including owners, if memory serves. I certainly agree with your point. A dozen folks and they'll still answer your phone call before the second ring. It's fantastic that we can get such service from so few people presumably wearing many hats.

    Quote:

    Would be nice if Ibis takes some lessons from CC and works on the "under promising and over delivering" in the future.
    I'm sure Ibis has gotten the message. First the SLR delays, and now Ripley. I think that's part of the reason they're being so coy. They don' want to generate any more hype for this bike without it being something you could ride this week.

    Scott Nicol said as much in the recent interview with Switchback Magazine. Responding to what's next for Ibis, he replied,

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Scott Nicol
    ...what we are going to do is not talk about products until they are in our warehouse. We are going back to the Apple model. It is astonishing to me that Apple keeps the secrets they keep and have a product delivered to their stores virtually the same time the public hears about it. We do like that way of doing business where we don't talk about things until we have them.

    He goes on to tease about "several" new bikes this year (presumably including but not limited to the Ripley). I'm certainly curious, but I'd rather not know about a bike I couldn't plausibly demo until a year later. Frankly, I think that will lead to better bikes for us. Let them do their jobs of imagining and building the best bikes they can, without having to hop over explain every production delay. I'd rather they took their time, especially considering it's only January, than repeat the SLR release experience and have to explain why only the Large Black frames are shipping this month but your Small Orange is coming soon, promise.

    **Full disclosure, having recently built a 650b HD, I am not anxiously awaiting being able to purchase a Ripley, though I do look forward to and Ibis release.
  • 01-20-2013
    Maverick005
    Well said marz.

    Just thankful they made the awesome frames to date they have, esp the HD cant think of a better ride I would want right now, rides roots and flows as good as any 29er Ive owned or ridden.

    Just have to commit stay loose the HD creams it, this bike proves 26ers are here to stay regardless of the marketing compaines pushing 650b, I personally understand why 29ers 650b apeal to many riders sizing etc, but newer riders are missing the skills we were forced to develop, sure they can ride fast until they get to where it dosent matter what bike youre on rider skill is rider skill regardless, Im seeing this more and more on the trails.

    This is the first 26er imo that can compete with a 29er for rolling speed and grip, off camber etc a 9er definitely gives more percieved confidence.

    For racing XC endurance I would also choose a 9er no question.

    Would love to see the Ripley one day sounds like it will be a cool bike, but you will have to pry my HD from my cold dead hands bike industry before I giver her up shes a keeper.:p
  • 01-20-2013
    mazspeed
    Yeah the Ripley is really nice. Having seen a few up close, it's a killer bike for sure. I am not a 650B or 29er fan, but I see the market going in that direction. The reason why the Ripley was announced was because of all the phone calls they were getting about doing a 29er. With the skeleton staff needed to do trouble shooting on current bikes, they didn't have the resources to answer the hours of phone calls every day about a 29er, so they had to come out and say they were designing one. So they put it out there, then it took off from there. It is a damned if you do, damned if you don't but from such a small and dedicated group, it's not like they can just push them out like SC or bigger companies and still keep their customer service at the high levels they are.

    The DW link has many benefits over everything else, but designing them to work in a package while maintaining the ride, and being able to design it so that all these different parts work with it is an engineering feat, but it does take time. When they start getting these out, you will be getting the best of the best, but the best takes time.
  • 01-20-2013
    Adim_X
    Some of you guys act like you are on their payroll? I agree that not rushing a bad product out the door is important to keeping small businesses running. However missing the market because it takes you a year longer to develop said product can also kill a business. What was innovative a year ago, may be outdated by this ride season.
  • 01-20-2013
    mazspeed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    Some of you guys act like you are on their payroll? I agree that not rushing a bad product out the door is important to keeping small businesses running. However missing the market because it takes you a year longer to develop said product can also kill a business. What was innovative a year ago, may be outdated by this ride season.

    I have been on their payroll sort of, and I do have friends there. They never gave a date for release.
    Oh and thanks for the feedback
    Adim_X. "you are a real D bag homer for ibis. get off your high horse you loser"
    Class guy.

    Payroll is the wrong thing to say. Sub contractor would be more accurate.
  • 01-20-2013
    KenDobson
    I think the Ripley just won a race with Van at the pedals!
  • 01-20-2013
    Maverick005
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    Some of you guys act like you are on their payroll? I agree that not rushing a bad product out the door is important to keeping small businesses running. However missing the market because it takes you a year longer to develop said product can also kill a business. What was innovative a year ago, may be outdated by this ride season.

    Hardly, though I would welcome that opportunity haha.

    A good bike is a good bike, regardless of wheel size design and even linkage, you guys forget this is a boutique market, not a mass produced corporate machine that jumps on everything the consumer thinks they want.

    If you want it so bad then you wait for it, if not b***g and moaning wont make it come any sooner, consumers like that come and go, jump brands like changing under wear, Im sure Ibis will survive and prosper, plenty of good options in the market until then anyway.

    I say cut them some slack, you guys think its like life and death, far more important things to worry about in the world, dam lucky you can enjoy such products while others fight to get a job or stay in work.
  • 01-20-2013
    mazspeed
    Bravo! /\
  • 01-20-2013
    hanssc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KenDobson View Post
    I think the Ripley just won a race with Van at the pedals!

    Yes it did! I guess Evan pedaled and steered it so we should probably give him some credit ; ) He is a great test rider. Both he and Brian have been putting in the hours and backing up the lab testing with real world punishment.. It's doing great.

    From the race:

    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...61274870_o.jpg
  • 01-20-2013
    snowdrifter
    teasers are cool.. but a 2yr teaser = blue balls.. :(:(
  • 01-20-2013
    dkestar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hanssc View Post
    Yes it did! I guess Evan pedaled and steered it so we should probably give him some credit ; ) He is a great test rider. Both he and Brian have been putting in the hours and backing up the lab testing with real world punishment.. It's doing great.

    From the race:

    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...61274870_o.jpg

    Don't see a Ripley there.:)

    Sasquatch, Loch Ness Monster and Ibis Ripley.
  • 01-21-2013
    Adim_X
    Edited because it was rude, should probably not say anything to anyone that I wouldn't say to their face.
  • 01-21-2013
    Summit
    XC race? ^
  • 01-21-2013
    MSH
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    XC race? ^

    El Paso Puzzler (50 miler) I believe