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    Wink All Ibis Mojo SL (Super Light) Bike Builds Here!

    Ordered my Mojo SL In Feb from Stif Bikes UK, will hopefully arrive in April 2008.
    Anybody have there's from the first shipment? Please post your mojo pics here.

    Thanks All
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    Mojo Super Light
    Here's my build!!

    XT Kit Full XT / Easton Carb/ Fox Float RLC 140

    Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore XT
    Front Derailleur: Shimano Deore XT
    Headset: Cane Creek IS2 1-1/8”
    Cranks: Shimano Deore XT
    Brakes: Shimano Deore XT
    Shift Levers: Shimano Deore XT
    Cassette: Shimano Deore XT
    Chain: Shimano CN-HG93
    Handlebar: Easton MonkeyLite XC CNT
    Stem: Ibis 3D Forged Ibis
    Saddle: fi’zi:k Aliante
    Seat Post: Easton EC90 Zero CNT
    Wheels: Easton XC-1
    Tires: Kenda Nevegal DTC 26 x 2.1”
    Fork: 2008 Fox Float RLC
    Shock: DT SDD Carbon

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    Hope Mojo SL from Stiff.

    Matt, you ordered you SL about same time as me, have you heard confirmation from Stiff re delivery , they could'nt be specific for April or May with me.?
    My build is going to be;
    Mojo SL with DT swiss carbon shock
    DT swiss EXC 150mm bolt through Fork
    SRAM XO shifters and rear mech
    XTR cranks and front mech
    Formula ORO K18 brakes
    Thomson Elite post and X4 90mm stem
    FSA carbon OS bar.
    Fizik Gobi Saddle
    Specialized Roval Controlee Wheels.
    Conti Vertical Pro Tyres 2.3
    Everything waiting for forks and frame to arrive, will post the pics and weight soon I hope

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    Been riding it since December...

    XTR wheels
    XTR shadow rear der.
    XT shifters, brakes, cranks
    Fox Float RP23 rear shock
    Fox Float RLC fork
    Monkey light bars
    Easton Post
    Maxxis Ignitor UST tires (2.3 front, 2.1 rear)
    Ibis Stem
    Time pedals

    Will be getting an auto-drop seat post as my first alteration. Can't really think of anything else to change/add. Any suggestions?

    After 50 hours in the saddle so far I will say that this is the best mountain bike I've have ever ridden, and by far the most fun of my quiver (my other rigs have become quite neglected lately). I always return home after riding this thing with a grin from ear to ear.
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    Bigsalmondoc, e-mailed stif a few days ago still expected around april (hopefully not May!) doh! waiting sucks as my other ride is down due broken shifter. Plantdude ur mojo is sweet looks like a large (which is the size i've ordered i'm 5'9 though judging by the height of ur seat you're probably around about 6"?) would have got a med but i'm having a 90mm stem so didn't want to be too cramped.

    One of the maverick seatposts would be great how's the xt brakes? thinking about some Hope mono mini pro's if I don't get on with them, more carbon love! Hey those DT EXC 150 are one of my future upgrades.

    On the pedal front thinking along the lines of Crank Bros Mallet Two or Shimano M 647, and DMR V12 Mags. Any other suggestions welcome. Well until i've saved some more folding, i'll be using my VP 1 spd's & DMR V8.

    L8rs Mojo Lovers everywhere!

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    Mines, winging it's way to the UK as I sit here

    Build:

    XTR gears
    XT Shifters
    Formula Puro's
    Stans Arch/Pro II's - Sapim Race
    Pike Airs (For now, will wait to see if DT 150TA's are reliable) may try Lyriks off my Nomad
    Thomson post/stem

    Tyres - dependant on conditions and riding.

    Should have it built by next weekend ready for trip to Wales

    Pics when done.

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    Cyclelife

    Are you importing it, or getting it in the UK?

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    Friend of mine has a shop in the States, I was going to collect it and do some riding but with the uncetainty over delivery dates I decided to get him to air freight it. Hopefully it's in the UK about now

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    Cool happy building!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclelife
    Friend of mine has a shop in the States, I was going to collect it and do some riding but with the uncetainty over delivery dates I decided to get him to air freight it. Hopefully it's in the UK about now
    I'd bevery interested to know how much import tax and duty you end up paying ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclelife
    Friend of mine has a shop in the States, I was going to collect it and do some riding but with the uncetainty over delivery dates I decided to get him to air freight it. Hopefully it's in the UK about now
    I hope its not going through Terminal 5!! Only joking, look forward to the pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by GBR1
    I hope its not going through Terminal 5!! Only joking, look forward to the pics
    Don't even go there

    That sort of thing remnds me to keep cycling everywhere, anyway I hate being out of control when it comes to travelling

    Keeping an eye on my tracking number, which is obviously not updated regulary

    Patience I hear you call

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    New Mojo SL hits the trail

    just got the bike finished and out for it's first ride.
    wow.
    coming of a nude carbon mojo with rp23 built a little heavier...the SL has the DT shock...it's been a long time since I rode a bike without a Fox rear shock (and a platform damper)...so itll take a while to get used to the purely linear spring rate. overall, the bike, as set up, really rocks. light, fast, reliable
    I didn't optimize for weight, obvious when you see the build, but it's right at 25 lbs...and fast, fast, fast. for reference, I'm 160-165lbs-ish, ride up everything I ride down and live in the santa cruz mountains in northern california. this a ride-all-day build.

    - mojo sl with dt swiss - and the red links because they're slightly faster than blue (and waaaay faster than silver)
    - fox float 130 xtt (yes, 130mm. I set it with nearly very little sag. and because it doesn't 'dive' under braking, the the effective head tube angle stays nice and neutral) - I switch between this fork and a vanilla 140mm
    - dave's speed dream wheels - kings on stan's 355 rims
    - conti vertical pro, tubed version, with tubes
    - jones bar - best thing I've done for my bikes in a long time
    - thompson x4 stem and elite post
    - xtr crankset ( I skipped 960 series xtr...was a 952 hold out for a long time...I like th eway these work)
    - xtr cassette, chain
    - xtr dual control levers and hydro brakes (8" front / 6" rear)- new to me...not sold yet but very likeable
    - wtb something something saddle...forget the name...I like all wtb saddles
    - goofy cane creek IS headset - I like cane creek a lot, I don't like IS. give me a chris king headset option please
    - XTR rapid ride rear dr and xtr front der
    - time atac xs ti pedals

    This bike is such a great medium between my original mojo and the scott spark...now both of those frames are for sale. with this bike, I see no need to have another duallie.
    (the closest I've ridden to the quality of ride of these mojo's is the vpp...the dw is just better..I've owned and ridden lots, if not all, the major contenders for 'best bike' in the category...the mojo is my pick)

    the only thing I'm currently considering changing is going to a 650b front wheel.

    the rest of my stable is:
    - rocklobster custom steel ss with cannondale headshock
    - kish ti ss rigid with pace carbon fork
    - bonty race lite (last of the sc built bikes)
    - ventana el conquistador tandem
    - surly big dummy 'longtail'
    - schwinn beach cruiser


    the last pic attached is of my son holding it up so I could get a pic on the trail...he's 9, riding a scott spark that we have built around 21.5lbs (4.25" travel front and rear, 26" wheels, discs, etc)...there is absolutely NOTHING like having kids that love to ride...unfortunately, I'm a little sore from yesterday's ride and he's not. I'm old.
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    ... and if we just ... My new ride

    Finished this up last weekend...A couple of guys helped me with this..A big Thanks to Larry at Mountain high Cyclery for putting it together and The big D...Darren at PUSH inds. It's not light at 27.8 but I'll work on replacing some things...
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    Very Nice

    Looking good Dan and Riderup- riderup I have been leaning toward the Fox rear shock because like you I have always ridden one- what is the DT Swiss Carbon like- is it as firm as the RP23? Any other impressions on the Swiss- must say it looks great with the frame.

    Riderup - my shop currently has the Clear Coat Carbon Standard Mojo- do you advise I wait for the matte SL?? I hope my Son will enjoy riding with me once he is older-that truly is a blessing. Thanks.

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    Stans 355 Rims

    What do you think of the Stans 355's. Will they hold up to small jumps and 2 to 3 foot drop off's? Thanks!

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    dancruz why your SL isn't matte paint? And thats a funky looking handlebar you got there riderup, how does it feel?

    And beautiful bikes guys
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    OMG...that is one sexy looking bike and I love the parts choice - minus the seat, but thats a personal pref. But, is your rotor facing the right direction...?


    Quote Originally Posted by dancruz
    Finished this up last weekend...A couple of guys helped me with this..A big Thanks to Larry at Mountain high Cyclery for putting it together and The big D...Darren at PUSH inds. It's not light at 27.8 but I'll work on replacing some things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    dancruz why your SL isn't matte paint?
    They produced a few Mojo SL's in nude carbon, the same as the standard Mojo. I was trying to get one of these, but no joy! Looks very cool though
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    They produced a few Mojo SL's in nude carbon, the same as the standard Mojo. I was trying to get one of these, but no joy! Looks very cool though
    Why they do that? and these Nude Carbon SL uses Ultra High Modulus carbon or the standard carbon on Mojo?
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    The first 20 or 25 frames were the regular clear coat. I bought this one because I didn't want to wait a month or two for the matte finish.
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    Thank Everyone for all your pics!

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    Current setup:
    - Frame IBIS Mojo carbon SL, Large, matte clear..............2 389,0
    - PACE XC41 Fighter, 2006.............................................1 591,2
    - seatpost New Ultimate 31.6 x 350, alu black.....................141,0
    - saddle Fizik Gobi red/black, Ti.........................................251,0
    - mixed headset, Hope + Cane Creek Solos IS......................79,4
    - spacers (estimated weight)........................................... .....20,0
    - HOPE Mono M4, 180mm............................................. ....420,8
    - HOPE Mono M4, 160mm............................................. ....364,6
    - cranks Middleburn RS-3, JIS, 175mm, 44/32/20.................647,4
    - BB Token TK886CM-68x113, Cr-Mo, Al cups, carbon.........220,0
    - pedals Time Atac XS Ti Carbon.........................................288 ,8
    - SRAM X.0 medium cage, 2004, KCNC pulleys...................196,1
    - Shimano XTR FD-M971 bottom swing, TP/DP, tuned, Ti......136,0
    - SRAM ESP 9.0, shorty 2001, 3 spd...................................101,7
    - SRAM ESP 9.0, shorty 2001, 9 spd...................................101,6
    - Nokon bowdens, front + rear.............................................. ..72,3
    - SRAM PC-59 chain............................................. ..............275,4
    - Syntace VRO Bar Carbon, 630mm, 12°..............................135,0
    - Syntace CRB Plugs............................................. ................8,0
    - Syntace VRO T-Stem, S size, 6°, X-Ray 254 clamps...........204,0
    - Lizard Skins Logo shorty, 90mm, lock-on, Ti bolts.................90,7
    - front wheel DT Swiss 240s, XC717 disc, Sapim CX Ray........718,3
    - rear wheel DT Swiss 240s, XC717 disc, Sapim CX Ray.........834,3
    - casette Shimano 2007 XTR CS-M970, 11-32, Ti/steel............222,5
    - DT Swiss RWS Alu 9x100mm front skewer............................51,5
    - DT Swiss RWS Alu 10x135mm rear skewer...........................65,7
    - Schwalbe Nobby Nic 26 x 2.25", 3compound, folded.............605,5
    - Schwalbe tube SV 14, 26x1.5/2.30......................................122,2

    Total: ca. 11.2 kg

    Further upgrades (in short time):
    - USE Atom riser bar 31.8mm, 660mm, 10°, trimmed to 640....160,0
    - New Ultimate stem (or Rotor S1), 90mm...............................104,0
    (??? Schwalbe Racing Ralph 26 x 2.1", folded.........................460,0)
    going tubeless.......................................... ..............................-84g

    Total: ca. 10.75 kg

    Long term upgrades:
    - cranks THM Clavicula, carbon, 44/32/22.................................570,0
    (??? pedals LOOK Quartz Carbon Ti........................................198,0)
    (???- NoTubes ZTR 355, 360g/rim.............................................-80,0 compared to current wheelset)

    Total: ca. 10.36 kg

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    Now my mojo sl is complete!! 10K7 as you can see on follows pics:















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    I've ordered my size XL Mojo SL frame in the beginning of January and hopefully I will receive it in the near future.

    Meanwhile two large shipments of parts arrived today from Germany and I weighed most of the parts today.

    Part/Name/Weight
    Frame Ibis Mojo SL 2235 **
    Rear shock DT Swiss XR Carbon 200*50 mm 165 **
    Fork Fox 32 Talas RLC 140 mm 1862
    Wheel front Mavic Crossmax ST Disc 864
    Wheel rear Mavic Crossmax ST Disc 979
    Tyre front Continental Mountain King 2.4 UST 724
    Tyre rear Continental Mountain King 2.4 UST 698
    Brake front Magura Marta SL Postmount 180 mm Red 390
    Brake rear Magura Marta SL IS 160 mm Red 359
    Gear shifter Shimano XT SL-M770 287
    Front derailleur Shimano XT FD-M771 (34,9) 167
    Rear derailleur Shimano XTR RD-M972 GS Shadow Med cage 180
    Crankset Shimano XTR FC-M 970 175 mm 795
    Chains Shimano XTR CN-7701 281
    Cassette Shimano XT CS-M770 11-32 261
    Handlebar Syntace Vector Lowrider Carbon 189
    Headset Cane Creek Solos 1-1/8" IS Red 72 **
    Stem Syntace VRO M 6deg 214
    Grips Bontrager Race X Lite 26 **
    Saddle Selle Italia SLR XC 179
    Seatpost Syntace P6 400*31,6 mm 230
    Pedals Crank Brothers Egg Beater SL 264
    Cable covers 70
    Spacers etc. 40 **
    Total 11531

    ** = I don't have the part yet and the weight is an estimate (based on manufacturer weights etc.). At the moment I don't have the headset, the grips and the spacers and of course frame/shock is missing also.

    I have estimated the frame/shock weight as 2400 g but hopefully it will be slightly lighter.

    The weights of the Continental Mountain King 2.4" UST tyres was a nice surprise since other tyre weighed 724 g and the other 698 g.

    It seems like the total weight incl. pedals will be close to 11,5 kg.

    At first I will be using my old Syntace VRO adjustable stem but once the seating position is dialled in I'm planning to change it to Syntace F99 and lose more than 100 g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciam
    Now my mojo sl is complete!! 10K7 as you can see on follows pics:
    Wow, beautiful build ! Great resolution on the pics.

    I've photoshop-ed up a fake build of my gray sl order since the wait is starting to get to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portti
    I have estimated the frame/shock weight as 2400 g but hopefully it will be slightly lighter.
    Porti, surely the frame will be lighter, my one w/ RP23 weights really 2389g, so you can expect ca. 60g less. I've only replaced steel DU bushings on the shock with polymer ones. On the other hand Solos headset is a bit heavier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciam
    Now my mojo sl is complete!! 10K7 as you can see on follows pics:
    Ciam, what is the weight of your tires and tubes? They must be really super light to get such nice weight with 1810g heavy Fox Talas forks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glovemtb
    Wow, beautiful build ! Great resolution on the pics.

    I've photoshop-ed up a fake build of my gray sl order since the wait is starting to get to me.
    Lets see the pic. I've been waiting to see what a gray would look like built up.

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    I have an "Acros" model and it's only 85 gr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciam
    I have an "Acros" model and it's only 85 gr.
    I've asked about your tubes and tires. The headset weight info was to Portti.

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    I make mysel my wheels with olympic, hub dt240, spoke sapim cxray with "ligatures".
    The weight is 1425 gr!!
    The tubes are "maxiss larsen mimo" 2.0 for 480 gr mounted with liquid notube without inner tube. Never had of probleme and verry general-purpose with a good return.

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    I've photoshop-ed up a fake build of my gray sl order since the wait is starting to get to me.[/QUOTE]

    Hi Glovemtb was doing the exact same thing yesterday! Got a white one & very much Pink!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciam
    I make mysel my wheels with olympic, hub dt240, spoke sapim cxray with "ligatures".
    The weight is 1425 gr!!
    The tubes are "maxiss larsen mimo" 2.0 for 480 gr mounted with liquid notube without inner tube. Never had of probleme and verry general-purpose with a good return.
    I'm quite interested in experience with ZTR 355 rims from 84kg rider. I've heard mixed reviews, that they do not stay true and are flexy.

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    i'm 90 kgs (not Definitively!!!) and ztr olympic remain perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG
    Porti, surely the frame will be lighter, my one w/ RP23 weights really 2389g, so you can expect ca. 60g less. I've only replaced steel DU bushings on the shock with polymer ones. On the other hand Solos headset is a bit heavier.
    Yes, hopefully the frame will be lighter.

    Thanks for the actual Solos weight. It seems like Cane Creek is very optimistic when claiming weights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Portti
    Thanks for the actual Solos weight. It seems like Cane Creek is very optimistic when claiming weights.
    The manufacturers usually claim the weight w/o top cup, bolt and star nut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pocket Rockets
    Lets see the pic. I've been waiting to see what a gray would look like built up.
    This turned out to be a okay mockup once I moved it to thru photoshop then on to photopaint for it's pretty good camera angle lighting algorithms. (I should have done the sharpening differently because it made the edges on the shadowy side a lil too defined.)
    That's Baken my pit lab mix rescue who loves the trails even more than myself.
    I read somewhere the color is really more gray than this, (something about the lighting.)
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    Im just waiting to see how much and how good will the new CrankBrothers wheels be
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    My superlight SL

    Here is my build for xc and epic trail rides in Santa Cruz, Ca. It is a joy to ride a 5.5 inch bike this light. This weekend will be its first race.
    wheels-olymic disc 1325g
    tires-kenda karma frt, maxxis 310 rr
    stans sealant
    bars-monkeylite sl
    brakes-marta sl
    sram xo shifters
    xtr cranks and cassette
    fork-manitou mrd
    shock-dt swiss
    seat post-kcnc
    grips-titec pork rind
    seat-slr
    pedals-egg beaters 4ti
    stem ritchey wcs
    20.5 lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles wadsworth
    Here is my build for xc and epic trail rides in Santa Cruz, Ca. It is a joy to ride a 5.5 inch bike this light. This weekend will be its first race.
    That looks sweet! Does that say 20.8 lbs?! WTF is right!

    Can you please set it where we can enlarge those pics. I clicked on one and it didn't do anything. It was such a tease!

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    sweet, bigger pics please, I cant see your components properly. I know your saddle is Selle Italia, Thompson seatpost, Magura red disk brakes (Im guessing), Manitou fork (dont know which model).
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    mojj' sl Build here.

    Ok here is the build , still 3 weeks away, I have on a present bike Spinergy Cyclones and after 12 months they are as good as new.best wheels I have owned to date, Not used the Shimano xt's, weights similar which are better.
    same goes for the brakes, should I swap out the xt for the ultimate carbons? i have a near new set on a bike that the mojj' is replacing

    Frame Ibis Mojo SL med 2235 **
    Rear shock DT Swiss XR Carbon 200*50 mm 165 **
    Fork Fox 32 Talas RLC 140 mm 1862
    Wheel front Spinergy cyclone discs OR option shimano xt
    Wheel rear Spinergy cyclone discs OR option shimano xt
    Tyre front kenda nevegal 2.4 UST
    Tyre rear kenda nevega 2.4 UST
    Brake front Shimano xt OR option juicy ultimate
    Brake rear Shimano xt OR option juicy ultimate
    Gear shifter Shimano XTR SL-M770 287
    Front derail Shimano XTR FD-M771 (34,9) 167
    Rear derailleur Shimano XTR RD-M972 GS Shadow long cage 180
    Crankset Shimano XTR FC-M 970 172.5 mm 787
    Chains Shimano XTR CN-7701 281
    Cassette Shimano XTR CS-M770 11-34
    Handlebar Monkey light Carbon
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG
    I'm quite interested in experience with ZTR 355 rims from 84kg rider. I've heard mixed reviews, that they do not stay true and are flexy.
    I'm 85kg plus riding gear (Camelback alone would be 3-4 kg at times) riding my Mojo with ZTR 355 laced to Suzie Carbon hubs with DT Aerolite spokes with no problems.
    I guess that I've ridden 500km+ and they have not been touched since the initial build
    Just Ride !

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles wadsworth
    Here is my build for xc and epic trail rides in Santa Cruz, Ca. It is a joy to ride a 5.5 inch bike this light. This weekend will be its first race.
    This is the lightest Mojo build I've ever seen. Could you please post detail build (with the weights, if possible)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmatrix
    I have on a present bike Spinergy Cyclones and after 12 months they are as good as new.best wheels I have owned to date
    Ditto, I have several sets for mountain and road. The early spox were a disaster, the early customer no-service was too and what killed most of their business off. They survived on their racing wheel chair wheels for a time. Word is for past few years under new ownership. Now, they have their small niche. I've never had any issues with customer service they have been great.
    Btw, the spokes were a patent invention from a high school kid from fla. then they went to vectran spokes.
    They are fairly stiff laterally but are very light and absorb shock light fricking crazy. It's very difficult to ride a wheel with steel spokes after these. Hopefully, they keep making them cause I can't bear the thought of going back to the dead steel feel. Only I would not recommend for 200+ clydes.
    Darren at Push has a pair on his mojo + pics around this forum somewhere.

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    I've just received my frame
    So, as the weather is grim here, I'll be starting on the build this afternoon. Most of the kit is here but a trip to the LBS will be needed tomorrow to get a few bits (cables etc).

    I'll be putting the Air U turn Pikes on for now until something else ( lighter and more, adjustable travel) is available/affordable.

    I'll get some pictures during the build and try my first photo posting - hope it's easy

    Boy am I happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG
    I'm quite interested in experience with ZTR 355 rims from 84kg rider. I've heard mixed reviews, that they do not stay true and are flexy.
    Not so I am happy to say.
    I weigh about that much and I can say that built by an expert, they are excellent, and I ride rocky stuff here in Wellington. I know quite a few others who do the same on those rims, and nobody has had problems. In fact, built by a top wheel builder, they have a very good rep here. More and more hard riding guys are using them. I would not personally get them too far off the ground, maybe over half a yard, but I am not a jjumper anyway.

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    My Super Light Mojo SL

    Here are some better pictures. My daughter helped me with Photobucket. Enjoy







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    Very niiiiiiiiice!!!!!! Congratulations, now post some pix with some dirt on it!!!!

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    sweet, nice red details (kinda popular eh). From the spec build, I say its going to be use for general XC (XC Marathon <-> XC Race), correct?

    Hmm, I think if you cover your top tube cables with some red cable transparent housing (I dont know where to find these, but I saw it on my cuz bike, its like a very thin plastic tubing that has been coloured), then it would make your bike look slightly better
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    Smile

    Got mine yesterday... I put my order in back in the middle of October. I was waiting out for the light gray but had to bail since I have a moab trip and races in May and I had to have it. Thanks to the guy who pointed out the SL clear is like a dark gray. I agree, and the clear is not nearly the "flashy look at me carbon" I had feared. I like it





    24.8lbs total. The tires are 582g and 591g grams with a fair amount of stans in em since the front had 3 pin holes in the side wall and would not hold air. Not too impressed but they were a Christmas present so I can't complain too loud.

    It was nice outside yesterday afternoon, today there is snow and it is 20 something degrees colder so a more extensive test ride will have to wait. Initial testing shows the DUC to be an excellent match to this bike. Coming from a horst-link bike I can hardly believe how stable this thing is in standing sprints in the street. Whatever they have done with the geometry of this thing even the fork is quiet when you are cranking on it. All the maverick haters out there had me fearing I would have a mushy mess on my hands -- this thing is going to be insane once I get the tuning dialed in.

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    I am cross shopping the Scott Spark 20, Titus and the Ibis. The Scott and the Titus test rode pretty good. The Ibis wasn't fully built yet so no test ride but it was heavy (about 27 lbs) compared to the Scott (26 lbs). The Scott and Titus felt linear and natural (on rough pavement only; no dirt test). The Ibis looked beautiful. How do they compare in ride/handling/performance??? I'd love some input. I am used to an old 1995 Turner XC. I ride in New Mexico on rocky and mountainous trails. I tend towards old-school XC bikes. What would you guys recommend??

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    Sweet bike mate, is that DT RWS QR on the rear?
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    yup... had a huge dtswiss.com logo on it I spent 15 minutes scratching off. It works really slick, I like how it does not scratch up the drop outs at all. I highly recommend it because you can get it perfectly tight the first try with no playing around clamping and re-clamping the lever type

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    Hmm, I didn see the DTSwiss logo on it but by the looks of it, I already had a good guess that its the RWS QR. How much is the QR Skewer? And can you get it without buying DT hoops?.
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    My SL build

    I posted the pictures of my SL a week ago in another thread, so will not post here again, only put on the link
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...71350#poststop
    until the "semi-final" build is finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbieracer
    Not so I am happy to say.
    I weigh about that much and I can say that built by an expert, they are excellent, and I ride rocky stuff here in Wellington. I know quite a few others who do the same on those rims, and nobody has had problems. In fact, built by a top wheel builder, they have a very good rep here. More and more hard riding guys are using them. I would not personally get them too far off the ground, maybe over half a yard, but I am not a jjumper anyway.
    Thanks guys. I've search also in other forums for ZTR355 reviews and it looks like I'll go with them for the final SL build.

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    Thanks guys. I've search also in other forums for ZTR355 reviews and it looks like I'll go with them for the final SL build.
    Congrats on your decision , be sure to post us your bike final build .
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles wadsworth
    Here is my build
    ...
    brakes-marta sl
    Is the front disc on your Martas 160 mm? I just received my red Marta SLs with 180 mm front disc and mine has IS brake caliber with a PM adapter. Yours seems to have a PM caliber without any adapters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    Hmm, I didn see the DTSwiss logo on it but by the looks of it, I already had a good guess that its the RWS QR. How much is the QR Skewer? And can you get it without buying DT hoops?.
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=21669 £26.99

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=21668 £36.99


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    Ibis in Oz, King hubs, blah, blah...

    I'm waiting for a slightly longer zero degree stem...
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    ocross, sweet ride dude, but did you edit the photo cause the trees and leaves look like it has been photoshopped?. Maybe its just a low resolution camera, Im not sure. Hmm...
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    No photoshop dude, the pic was taken with a phone camera. I'll put up a better shot when I get a proper camera. Probably after I put on the new stem and sort out the cockpit.


    Cheers
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    Just in case you didn't catch this on the UK thread



    Sorted the cabling problem now, can't wait to see if the DT shock will hold up to the abuse it's going to get this weekend in Snowdonia
    The secret to mountain biking is pretty simple - The slower you go the more likely it is you'll crash. "Julie Furtado"

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    No photoshop dude, the pic was taken with a phone camera. I'll put up a better shot when I get a proper camera. Probably after I put on the new stem and sort out the cockpit.
    Sure no problem
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    Ooops, sorry about the size of that
    The secret to mountain biking is pretty simple - The slower you go the more likely it is you'll crash. "Julie Furtado"

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    Alright Everyone?

    Good news for the UK as Mojo's have landed. Got the call this morning!! Woohoo!! Being built up next week so do expect a whole bunch of pic's (no pink Mojo SL i'm afraid) very soon.

    Thank you Ibis Mwah!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Scott
    Alright Everyone?

    Good news for the UK as Mojo's have landed. Got the call this morning!! Woohoo!! Being built up next week so do expect a whole bunch of pic's (no pink Mojo SL i'm afraid) very soon.

    Thank you Ibis Mwah!!
    When did you order it?
    Thank you.

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    Smile They've landed, oh yes...

    Mr Scott, your frame has arrived in the same batch as mine. I've taken Friday off work this week to drive to Leeds in order to collect. Five hours driving, but will be worth it to finally get the bike I've been waiting six months for... Going to have a heavy right foot on the journey north, I think

    I've gone for a frankly *ridiculous* money no object build:

    Frame: Ibis Mojo SL (small, red anodised links)
    Fork: DT Swiss XMC Forks (130mm, QR)
    Handlebars: Easton EC90 CNT Carbon Flat (31.8mm)
    Shifters: Shimano XTR M970 Rapidfire Plus
    Front brake: Avid Juicy Ultimate (185mm)
    Rear Brake: Avid Juicy Ultimate (160mm)
    Grips: Lizard Skins Peaty Lock-On (graphite, red clamps)
    Stem: Thompson Elite X4 (90mm long, 31.8mm clamp, black)
    Headset: Cane Creek 110 IS (black)
    Crankset: Shimano XTR Hollowtech II (with B/B)
    B/bracket: Hope Ceramic (red)
    Pedals: Crank Brothers Eggbeater 4TI
    Front Mech: Shimano XTR M971 (34.9mm)
    Cassette: Shimano XTR M970 (11-34T)
    Chain: KMC X9 SL (Titanium Nitride)
    Rear Mech: Shimano XTR M972 "Shadow"
    Seatpost: Easton EC90 CNT (31.6mm)
    Saddle: Selle Italia Flite SLR
    Front Wheel: Chris King ISO Disc Front (red), Mavic XM819 UST (black), black spokes
    Rear Wheel: Chris King ISO Disc Rear (red), Mavic XM819 UST (black), black spokes
    Skewers: Salsa Stainless Skewers (Red)
    Tyres: Panaracer Fire XC Pro Kevlar (2.1")
    Tubes: Bontrager Superlight Schraeder

    It's a real lightweight cross-country build, and I'm hoping for a sub-22lb weight. I might put some riser bars on after six months, and I've got a Hadley rear hub on it's way over from the states in the next couple of weeks. I'm going to build that wheel onto a Stans Olympic ZTR rim, I think. One benefit of the long wait has been the arrival of the DT Swiss fork, which is going to trim a lot of weight and should be stiffer than the Fox I had listed previously. I'm a little nervous about the Eggbeaters, but looking forward to giving them a go.

    - Matt

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    Here is my build, the actual frame should be here in Wellington, New Zealand in the next week or three:

    Frame: Ibis Mojo SL (medium, red anodised links)
    Fork: Pace/ DT Swiss Fork (130mm, QR)
    Shiock: DT carbon
    Handlebars: Easton EC90 CNT Carbon Flat (31.8mm)
    Shifters: Sram X0
    Front brake: Avid Juicy Ultimate (185mm) with Alligator rotor
    Rear Brake: Avid Juicy Ultimate (160mm) with Alligator rotor
    Grips: ESI Racers Edge grips (51g)
    Stem: KCNC SC Wing Stem (100mm long, 31.8mm clamp, black)
    Headset: Cane Creek 110 IS (black) with red Chris King cap
    Crankset: Shimano XTR Hollowtech II
    B/bracket: Shimano XTR
    Pedals: Crank Brothers Eggbeater TI
    Front Mech: Sram X0
    Cassette: Sram X0
    Chain: Sram X0
    Rear Mech: Sram X0
    Seatpost: Easton EC90 CNT (31.6mm)
    Saddle: Tioga Spyder or Speshy Toupe ( ??? )
    Front Wheel: Chris King ISO Disc Front (red), Stans 355 rim, black DT spokes
    Rear Wheel: Chris King ISO Disc Rear (red), Stans 355 rim, black DT spokes
    Skewers: Control Tech carbon
    Cables: Powercordz
    Tyres: Conti Explorer 2.1 Supersonic
    Tubes: Stans 11g rimstrips incl valves with jizz, (about 60g)

    I am interested in feed back on especially the saddle

    cheers

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    Hi Hail,

    Back In deepest (mud) darkest January.

    Hey Matt,

    I reckon frankly *ridiculous* amounts of money is when items cost more than 50p... exceptions excepted in cases of Ibis goodies. (congrats on your frame arriving too, you are more deserving than me as you've been waiting longer)

    Last year I decided to invest in a new bike initially around about £1500... crept to £2000, 2.5....... well you get the idea. Hey now must get some sleep as I'm up early to buy some really cheap cycle clothing from Aldi, cause all my savings will pay for the new bike baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Scott
    Hi Hail,

    Back In deepest (mud) darkest January.
    I ordered in February, so I hope it arrives in May then...

    Quote Originally Posted by mattwatkins
    I've gone for a frankly *ridiculous* money no object build:

    Headset: Cane Creek 110 IS (black)
    Quote Originally Posted by robbieracer
    Here is my build, the actual frame should be here in Wellington, New Zealand in the next week or three:

    Headset: Cane Creek 110 IS (black) with red Chris King cap
    Hey, where didyou ordered the 110 IS?
    I ordered at BeyondBikes in March and still waiting for it. They told me that it is not available yet......

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    Stif (Leeds) had one for my build, but I'm not sure if they have a good supply. My first choice was red (for the bling factor), but they could only supply black.

    - Matt

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    My Ibis mojo SL has!

    2nd Test ride today after tweaking some settings. Took lots of pics today & will post them when I've had time to look through them properly, they're looking really great though so expect them sooner than later.
    Matt Scott

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    Here are my pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Scott
    Here are my pics
    There is nothing there!

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    Very nice bike, enjoy it.

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    Very nice, you didn't place any protective films?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Scott
    Happy Trials!
    Postcard quality setting! Nice pics!
    I'm unique, just like everyone else....

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    MOJO SL Too much flex in the bottom bracket area?

    Hello all,

    after an extensive search for a new all suspension frame I recently purchased a Mojo SL frame.
    I build it up with a complete XTR group '08, and a Rockshox Pike 454 front fork.
    I am 1.93 mtrs tall and weight about 100kg (220lbs).

    So far i've put about 200km on the bike mostly XC and some downhill.
    The bike is climbing like a mountain goat. It takes on large jumps and bolders with great ease. Hands down the best climber iv'e had so far (Had BMC full susp, Specialized hard tail and GT hard tail before).

    Now I get to the problem. The bottom bracket area of the frame feels and act very flexible. So flexible in fact that I can pull off the chain of my top chainring with my rear derailleur on the smallest gear. You can actually see the XTR chainrings bend out of allignment leading the chain off its teeth.
    This happens when I am riding clipped in and pull hard on the pedals.
    If I do the same thing with the front derailleur on the second chain ring and the rear derailleur on either the first, second or third gear all mahem breaks loose. The chain jumps between the rings and the chain damages the chainrings in the process.
    If I keep the chain in the rear on gear 5 all the way up to the lightest, 9 no problem.

    I can still go uphill but I have to be very conscious about which gears I use while climbing.

    I would like to know if anybody has a similar experience? I imported this bike from Wrenchscience in Berkely CA to Bangkok Thailand. Great service so far but have been unable to come up with answers.
    There are no specialists around that can determine if my frame truly has a problem or not. From my laymen evaluations I can only say the frame is either too light for somebody my size or it is indeed just too soft and flexible in the bottom bracket area. What contradicts these conclusions is the fact that the bike is getting rave reviews. There are guys bigger than me riding the SL with the same set up but nobody has mentioned anything similar to what I am experiencing.

    Just fyi, Scot Nicol at Ibis is trying his best to help find the answers to my dilemma. Off course I am impatient as this is my only bike and I like to ride it at least 3 - 4 times a week.

    Anything anybody can come up with would be appreciated.
    I am pretty much at my wits end right now.

    Thanks so much,

    Steven

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    Do you have the correct chainline setup? What spacers do you have installed on the bottom bracket and what bottom bracket are you using?

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    MOJO SL too flexible

    Hi there,

    The Crankset is an XTR FC m970. The bottom bracket is included.
    Chainline 50mm. The spacers are included and three of them are sitting on the side of the Chainrings to avoid the larger of the chain ring catches on the swing arm.

    Do you ride this same frame? If so do you feel it is too flexible, flexible enough or just plain rigid?

    thanks

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    The Shimano specification for the BB center-to-middle chainring measurement on a M970 crankset is: 48.3 mm. The Mojo uses a 68mm BB shell. So the correct set-up is 2 spacers on the drive side, 1 on the non-drive side. Try taking one of the 3 from the drive side and putting it on the non drive side.
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    Help getting the weight down

    Hi all,
    I ride an Iron Horse MkIII Expert and have just finished helping my friend build up his Mojo. He was very dissapointed to find it only weighs 2lb less than my bike and was wondering how to get the weight down. My bike weighs in at 30lbs his is 28lbs



    Mojo Build:

    Rear Derailleur: 2008 SRAM XO
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XTR
    Headset: Cane Creek IS2 1-1/8”
    Cranks: FSA K-Force XC Chainset MegaExo
    Brakes: Magura Marta SL
    Shift Levers: SRAM XO
    Cassette: SRAM 990
    Chain: KMC X9 SL
    Handlebar: Truvativ Team Carbon
    Stem: FSA Carbon
    Saddle: WTB Rocket V SLT
    Seat Post: Syncros Carbon
    Wheels: Hadley Hubs with Mavix EX 721 rims
    Tires: Schwalbe Racing Ralphs 26 x 2.1”
    Fork: Rock Shox Pike 454 U-Turn 2008
    Shock: Fox RP23

    As you can see from the build the only heavy parts are the rims @ 590g if he changed these to DT Swiss 4.2D's he would only save another 380g taking him down to 27.5lbs.
    He was hoping for about 25lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongo-Biker
    Hi all,
    I ride an Iron Horse MkIII Expert and have just finished helping my friend build up his Mojo. He was very dissapointed to find it only weighs 2lb less than my bike and was wondering how to get the weight down. My bike weighs in at 30lbs his is 28lbs



    Build:

    Rear Derailleur: 2008 SRAM XO
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XTR
    Headset: Cane Creek IS2 1-1/8”
    Cranks: FSA K-Force XC Chainset MegaExo
    Brakes: Magura Marta SL
    Shift Levers: Magura Marta SL
    Cassette: SRAM 990
    Chain: KMC X9 SL
    Handlebar: Truvativ Team Carbon
    Stem: FSA Carbon
    Saddle: WTB Rocket V SLT
    Seat Post: Syncros Carbon
    Wheels: Hadley Hubs with Mavix EX 721 rims
    Tires: Schwalbe Racing Ralphs 26 x 2.1”
    Fork: Rock Shox Pike 454 U-Turn 2008
    Shock: Fox RP23

    As you can see from the build the only heavy parts are the rims @ 590g if he changed these to DT Swiss 4.2D's he would only save another 380g taking him down to 27.5lbs.
    He was hoping for about 25lbs.
    i'd start with different
    pedals
    saddle
    Wheelset?..

    Edit: and use the same scales to weight both bikes.

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    The saddle is only 210g it has titanium rails!
    Pedals I agree but he is just moving from platform to clip-in. Changing to something like the Crank Brothers Egg Beater Ti would only save 230g He needs to loose 3lb some ware!
    ( Please no comments on his stomach ).

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    I don't get how does the Mojo weight more then the IH while the Mojo has more carbon parts and air shock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    I don't get how does the Mojo weight more then the IH while the Mojo has more carbon parts and air shock?
    As I said in the post, his Mojo weighs 2lb less than my MkIII.
    Not all carbon components are lighter than alloy, his Syncros Micro-Adjust Carbon seatpost weighs more than my Thomson alloy one.

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    @Bongo: I don't think you will get there easily. I have built my bike with DT 4.2s on Hope hubs, Pace Fighter fork, XTR cranks, etc, and come out at approx. 25-26lbs (in XL).

    He needs to think about whether its worth swapping stuff out. My suggestions would be:
    - Wheelset: something with Stan's rims or DT 4.2s
    - Fork: Manitou Minute? Should save close to 1lbs
    - Cranks: XTR (I think they are a good deal lighter than the FSAs)

    ...and then he could check every small component (stem - Syntace F99, cassette - XTR,...), but I guess it would be very expensive in comparison to the benefit he gets out of it...

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    Aah,I read your question wrong. I thought the Mojo was 2lbs heavier then the IH. My mistake
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    Quote Originally Posted by jever98
    @Bongo: I don't think you will get there easily. I have built my bike with DT 4.2s on Hope hubs, Pace Fighter fork, XTR cranks, etc, and come out at approx. 25-26lbs (in XL).

    He needs to think about whether its worth swapping stuff out. My suggestions would be:
    - Wheelset: something with Stan's rims or DT 4.2s.............................................. ...I agree and use 4.2D's on my Iron Horse.
    - Fork: Manitou Minute? Should save close to 1lbs.............................................. .. I love the new Minute MRD forks but the colour!
    - Cranks: XTR (I think they are a good deal lighter than the FSAs).......................... The FSA's are 20g LIGHTER and have ceramic bearings.

    ...and then he could check every small component (stem - Syntace F99, cassette - XTR,...), but I guess it would be very expensive in comparison to the benefit he gets out of it...

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    He was looking at the Pace RC41 Fighters & a set of Mavic Crossmax SLR's but he wants 20mm bolt through's.
    He does not like the reverse arch ( looks like your steering is 180 degrees out ) this also takes the Manitou's out of the picture as they use a reverse arch.
    The forks have to be bolt through as all the others flex too much ( something you only notice going from 20mm to quick release ) and the rear needs instant engagement so needs to be Chris King or Hadley.
    He has purchased a set of Tune hubs but the engagement is rubbish and the front is quick release. So he opted for Hadley as that was what I ran on my Iron Horse until I changed to King's
    The rims are my fault, he used to have Mavic 717 rims but they kept needing truing ( he weighs in at 84kg ) so I said get the 721's as they are bomb proof, thinking the bike was going to be so light he would not notice.

    The FSA K-FORCE is 20g lighter than the XTR it only weighs 750g with BB and has ceramic bearings.

    I don't think money is a problem as he purchased a Scott Ransom 2.0 also full carbon to play on while he was waiting for the Mojo to get built up. The trouble now is he seems to prefer the ride of the Ransom and is keeping them both.
    This too was my fault, I got him a deal on a new Scott Ransom 2.0 for the price of the Mojo frame as I could not get my head round buying a frame for the price of a bike.

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    @bongo:
    The reverse arch... ok. I didn't even notice it. The Pace/DT Swiss does exist with 20mm through axle.

    If money is no issue, then why not look at German Answer forks (the Flame USD), and as wheelsets how about DT 240s with Stan's 355s?

    Let's see what we get to:
    Fork: up to 500g off
    Wheels: up to 450g off (lighter hubs and rims, spokes, etc)
    Sundry:
    pedals - Eggbeater 2Ti
    Bar - Easton Monkeylite
    Grips - cork?
    Seatpost - Easton EC90
    Saddle - Selle SLR or Tune Speed Needle?
    Seat post clamp - tune / Ibis SL?

    A lot of expensive possibilities there ;-), but if you really set your mind to it, you should be able to get there. Oh, and how about latex tubes, etc?

    Best,
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    @Peter - wishful thinking sometimes leading to these low reported weights ;-)?

    Can you comment on the difference between the Pace and Talas?

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    I have always problems to put the post at desired place, so removed the previous one.

    Those are my builds:
    - w/ Pace Fighter, 10.968 kg (24.18 lbs);
    - w/ Fox Talas RLC, 11.186 kg (24.66 lbs) - currently ridden.

    Further plans are to test Spec Phenom SL saddle (203g, put on the bike yet, -50g), lighter cranks (-300g vs. current setup, waited), ZTR355 rims (-100g vs. current setup, waited), going tubeless or UST (-80 - -100g, ???), total -550g (Talas build, 10.626kg/23.45lbs, Pace build, 10.417kg/22.97lbs).
    Sometimes I'm very surprised by unbelievably low weights posted here on forums, although some parts on my bike are of the lightest (New Ultimate stem, seatpost, fork, coming THM cranks, rims, etc.) and tuned too (XTR front mech, Hope brakes - carbon levers, Ti hw).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jever98
    Can you comment on the difference between the Pace and Talas?

    Thanks
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    Later, after more rides, by PM, OK ?

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    New question here.

    How easy is it to swap between two sets of forks on a bike? Presumably you have to move your disc caliper from one to the other. Do you get problems with brake alignment doing this, or do things tend to work OK?

    - Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattwatkins
    How easy is it to swap between two sets of forks on a bike? Presumably you have to move your disc caliper from one to the other. Do you get problems with brake alignment doing this, or do things tend to work OK?

    - Matt
    10 - 15 minutes at maximum. I use split crown race (Hope IS headset bottom assembly) and have 2 sets of front caliper shims (one optimized for Pace and the second one for Fox). VDO and Ciclosport HAC4 use the same wireless transmitter, so there is one fitted to each fork.
    I have also 2 sets of wheels (both hubs are DT made, both rotors are Hope floating) and have no problems to swap between them. Btw, I'm quite skilled too .
    I don't swap the forks very often, currently tested Mojo frame with Fox.

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