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    Alpine 450 or 550

    Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me.

    Ok, been lurking for about 4 months and have decided on Ibex and specifically the alpine. I am upgrading from a 96 rigid trek 830 so anything with a springy front end is going to feel much better. For some reason, the LBS I bought the trek from sized me on a 21" and discussions with another LBS here and reviewing the Ibex geometry, tells me I'm on much too large of a frame. Looking at 18" for the Ibex. Oh yeah, I'm 5'11" 185.

    Couple of questions. My thought process is to lighten the weight on the bike with likely stans/ghetto/lighter tire combo and hopefully find a good deal on a manitou r7. I'm calculating just those two mods can cut 3 pounds and put me in a 26ish pound bike for a reasonable amount of dough. (UGI without a bike yet, dangerous ) That said, outside of the fork I'm weighing pros and cons of the 450->550 for the hundred bucks.

    - isis bottom bracket
    - sram drivetrain - I don't have any experience with sram vs shimano but my opinion is sram looks sexier. Plus I have the option of compatible grippers if I don't like triggers.
    - looks like a tad nicer cockpit and seatpost.
    - I really like the red on the 450 but I've seen some comments here on the black that the online pics don't do it justice.

    Any thoughts from you alpine owners?

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    you're better off on an 18". Cant see why that LBS gave you a 20".

    I've never tried tubeless but i dont think there's much weight savings. The main pros on it is less pinch flats and i think thats about it... You're probably better off with lighter tubes or something i think if weight is your main priority. As for the R7, those sound pretty sweet for a light build. Anything with TPC is alright in my book and at sub 3lbs at that. Amazing.

    As for the getting the 550 over the 450, the extra $100 is much worth it.
    ISIS BB are fine and just as good as outboard bearings imo. Reason why most are going with outboard bearings are that there are claims of them being more durable, but ISIS seems fine.

    Sram vs Shimano - I'm a new Sram convert. The sram triggers just feel a lot more natural to me and i like the cleaner shifts i get.

    The 550 also has better brakes and such...

    Trust em when i say you'll get more bike. Also you might have a better time ebaying that Zocchi than the Dart fork. If you can afford the extra $100, go for it... XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyS
    Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me.
    Any thoughts from you alpine owners?
    Happy B-day and welcome to the FORUMz

    I have an 05' 350 ALP with the older style wishbone seatstays and it's the bike that sold me on the IBEX product line..At present the ALP is in the toy box and my main bike is an 07' Trophy Pro frameset build..

    The new 08' ALP frames are redesigned with the 07' Trophy's geometry..Very sweet

    You should go for the 18" ALP 550..IBEX bikes do a BIG steps up the ladder in each series..

    Don't rush into upgrades, (it can turn into a disease) right away..Get to know your bike..

    I do like your idea of an R7 but I'm not a sealent fan..Lightweight tires and tubes are more my cup of tea..

    Here's a link to> The Official Weight Weenies F.A.Q ..

    Have fun on your B-Day....

    Jake....

    PS. SRAM Rules

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    I have had pretty good luck with the tubeless setup on my son's diamondback. Took a while to figure out the sealing, but managed to drop 2oz from each wheel. For me it's worth a shot.

    Speaking of the R7, does anyone know the difference between (2006? 2007?) r7 platinum and the '08 r7 elite. Sorry but MRD is out of my price range by a good bit. Also, what is the headtube length on the alp? Shopping a steal or two right now online but need the steerer length handy.

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    Trigger pulled (went with the 550). Placed online order at 10:15 this morning. Received e-mail at 2:40 with tracking info that the package was already picked up and out for routing. May be riding by Tuesday night.

    Ibex must have this down to a science. I know there has got to be a bit more to it, but it seems like they basically take your order, pull a box off of the shelf and push it to the back of the warehouse to a waiting fex-ex truck and off ya go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyS
    Trigger pulled (went with the 550). Placed online order at 10:15 this morning. Received e-mail at 2:40 with tracking info that the package was already picked up and out for routing. May be riding by Tuesday night.

    Ibex must have this down to a science. I know there has got to be a bit more to it, but it seems like they basically take your order, pull a box off of the shelf and push it to the back of the warehouse to a waiting fex-ex truck and off ya go.
    Congratz, Once the ALP reaches the FedEx shipping hub you will recieve an e-mail with an ETA..

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    Great pick imo. That's the bike I wish I got.

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    Black looks good

    I bought a 550 a few months ago and I have this site to thank for getting me hooked up with IBEX. I love my Bike and I like being a little different. The flat black finish with all black components looks awesome (besides the better components). Spend the extra $100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PecanWaffle
    I bought a 550 a few months ago and I have this site to thank for getting me hooked up with IBEX. I love my Bike and I like being a little different. The flat black finish with all black components looks awesome (besides the better components). Spend the extra $100.
    Damn, I want flat black!! Mine is like silver in the front and purplish/bluish in the back... If there's anything I could change about my bike that would be it. And a for with more than 80mm travel. And add disc brakes. And add a rear suspension (maybe). Man once I get a real job in the next few months, I know what I'm gonna have to start saving up for. A new Ibex...

    Right after I ordered it I regretted not getting the 550 because they had an all ivory version. It looked really clean and different. I still want it lol.

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    It is a sickness that cannot be cured - wanting the next great thing.

    Go out and ride what ya got.
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    Good call. The flat black rocks. Not mentioned also is the hubs are all black and also the spokes. I don't recall that specifically on the website and it's hard to pickup on the pics.

    First impressions are very good. Made a short 2 mile ride yesterday afternoon. The fd needed a minor adjustment to the barrel adjuster but other than that pretty well adjusted out of the box. The triggers are gonna take some getting used to, I've been on grippers for the last 10 years. The brakes are downright awesome. Nice lever feel and easy to modulate. MUCH more grab than the old rim pull canti's on the trek. I expected the fork to be a bit stiff until it broke in, but was nice and plush and worked well. I picked up an 06 manitou r7 on ebay last week with a small scratch on the crown for a 122 dollar steal. If I can flip the mars for about that it should make a nice one for one upgrade. FWIW the bike weighed in box stock at 30.35 lbs minus the reflectors, no kickstand, plus a bottle cage (18"). Next steps are a budget diet and some seat time to dial everything in. The reach to the bars feels a tad long and the grip just a tad wide but I want to put some more miles before making any stem adjustments. Gonna try seat adjustments first and see. Of course, porn to follow soon. Pics are on my blackberry cam, just need to xfer to my laptop.

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    Ride-on Casey, sound like you've got a handle on it

    I'm lookin' forward to the pics..

    Jake..

    PS. The 06' R7 is a sweet fork..
    I'm runnin' an 06' R7 Super on my Asta and an 08' R7 MRD Absolute on the Trophy..

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    Nice... yea, R7 sounds pretty sweet. Is it TPC? XD

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    Porn as promised,

    The new alp with the old school trek 830 and my son's '08 Diamondback Octane 20
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    Nice bike... when the photoshopped pics of the new Alpines first came out, i thought at first eeeeeewwwwww........ but when i saw pics of the real bike, they look pretty nice... Nice rig you got there... XD

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    I want your bike. Wanna trade me for me '06 Alpine 450? lol

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    Good call on the 550. Not sure what rims you got my rear went out of true in 1-2 weeks. Rear brake can't get adjusted tight enough without hitting the rim pretty good. And the shifters will probably be much better then what's on the 450(mines a couple years old), but mine might get a little better if they were adjusted. Have fun on it

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