No one in need of a sweet FS frame!! mrperc beat the krap out of his even racing DH with no probs. It wasnt the best bike on the trail but it pedaled AnyMountain any time. My only guess is their were 3 frames that came out, good, bad, ugly, nothing to do with Ibex but the manufacture. If your concerned about warranty No manufacture is going to honor a 2nd party but a independent is more likely to goodwill to the best of their ability.