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    Hey Christie,

    So per my PM I will try my best to track my ride via my endomondo app. I have a back-up battery for my iphone so I'm hoping it will last the 6-8 hours so I can document the entire ride. I'm sure Mana Rd can be done without a chase vehicle, but I'll give a better assessment after tomorrow.
    I would be down to join you folks for a ride, but the saturday after Thanksgiving is going to be a little too hard to pull-off for me. I don't think my family would be too happy with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christieland View Post
    Gmats - thank you for the welcome and advice, yes that was me.

    We're staying near Waikoloa Village, but are planning to rent a car because we've enjoyed the adventures we've had all over the island and enjoy road trips.

    We're feeling drawn to the Mana Road ride. Probably because, when else will we be able to say, we rode bikes all the way around a volcano. We were thinking of renting hardtail 29ers, and we're good on endurance, not the fastest things in the world, but happy to ride for 6, 7 hours if need be. Probably don't want to seek out the gnarliest terrain, but are comfortable riding over most anything.

    I'm curious if the ride can be done without a chase vehicle? If not, was hoping to post up on FB and here about perhaps trying to organize a Mana Rd. excursion for the Friday or Saturday immediately after Thanksgiving. If that's what we decide we'd like to do. Thanks for the bike shop recommendation too.

    (I guess to my question, if someone were from out of town and visiting California, I might suggest the Lake Tahoe Flume Trail. Toads or Hole in the Ground might be more technical or interesting riding, but Flume is highly impressive to visitors, and gorgeous from what I hear (I still haven't done this ride).
    Mana Road can be done without chase vehicles. I've done it that way a dozen or so times (normal for me). The difficulty is figuring out the shuttle to the start of the ride but it's not difficult in any way.

    I've done Flume and Toads. Tahoe rides are great, really enjoyed Downeville when I was out there. The climb for Flume was just slow and steady and then the whole down hill was just mellow and steady, nothing epic for speed or technical. The views are epic though, fantastic ride!!

    Look forward to your guys' arrival. Will certainly try to see if we can put something together.

    Happy Trails!

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    Mana road

    Mana Rd was awesome. The terrain covered a little bit of everything. Steep climbs, fast downhills, hot blazing sun, grassy roads, cold chilly wind, high altitude, fog, rain, gravel so fine that it's like riding in sand, big rocks, flowy smooth tracks, sweet rocky ledge jumps, roots, I mean everything. Probably the only thing it was missing was mossy roots and rocks. But I can do without that on a ride like that. All in all it was epic! The only carnage to me was having my pedal fall off while climbing one of the steep hills. I have no idea how that happened. I'm just glad that I actually had an 8mm allen wrench on me.

    Christie - I would definitely reccomend doing it when you come and visit next month. It took our group around 7+ hours to compete, but I believe it can easily be done quicker. We tried to keep the group together so we had a couple of regrouping stops and a lunch break.
    I definitely overpacked for my first long ride. When I got home I noticed that I only drank about 35 oz of water from my camelbak and about 12 oz from the gatorade bottle on my bike. I've never been a big water drinker when I ride anyways. I always hydrate well during the week before a long endurance workout. Thats how I train for my distance running. I did however eat 3 fruit/nut bars, 2 protein nut bars, 2 Gu Chomps packets, 1 fun size M&M's, 1 fun size Skittles, and a homemade tuna sandwich. All of that can easily fit in a camelbak backpack along with all your regular gear. So there is no need for a follow truck. Although, it was nice to have 6 trucks behind us yesterday.

    Pics from yesterday's ride.

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    My bike is done. Put a fork in it.


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    WOAH! Mazu, the Camber?!?!?
    From Mana???

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    Yup. I was cleaning my bike and that's when I found it. I know it wasn't like that before the ride cause I did a full check of my bike the day before. I would have definitely caught that.

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    Ouch. Dam I would check warranty. Yikes. It was a nice ride even though I didn't make it through.

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    Damn, you ate all that?!? The MnMs make me wish I brought that. Yes, same like you , hydrate all week before the ride, need to get it down to the molecular level, not just the day before. I only drank 3/4ths of my 100oz. bladder of water, one small size LifeWater, triple XXX of course, two ClifBars, 3 shots PowerShot, and that great sandwich my wife made.
    Had to make room for the killer Mexican food and awesome beers at the end.
    Damn, that was a great ride! Kinda felt like I dreamt it when I woke up this morning, until I went to go SUP surf, then felt a lil' jelly in the legs. All good, recovery helps build up for more endurance.

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    Yea, definitely an epic sweet ride all around. Thanks for the pics, and stats, very nice! Sorry to see the bike crack, that looks pretty nasty. Good thing it didn't snap completely off on a downhill.
    If you like climbing it's definitely a good spot with nice rewards for all the climbing effort. Definitely worth another run sooner than later.

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    Yup on the climbing and hill bombing.
    I park at that place they have Farmer's Market on Saturday in Waimea, right where you exit Mana to the highway. Climb up 12 miles early in the morning, and bomb it down. You can go as far as you want, then turn around. I love getting above the cloud line early in the morning.

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    I really enjoyed climbing those hills. Crazy as that sounds, but I knew that there was a sweet downhill waiting for me on the other side. =) A lot of it did remind me of Waterfall Hill, which is why I'm glad I ride that trail a lot. I think it really helped me on this ride. I seriously want to go back soon too.

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    That's right!
    One must earn their downhill.
    You must climb up to go down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazukea View Post
    I really enjoyed climbing those hills. Crazy as that sounds, but I knew that there was a sweet downhill waiting for me on the other side. =) A lot of it did remind me of Waterfall Hill, which is why I'm glad I ride that trail a lot. I think it really helped me on this ride. I seriously want to go back soon too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Honolii29 View Post
    That's right!
    One must earn their downhill.
    You must climb up to go down.
    Well put you two. I agree. Must pay them dues.

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    My new bike frame will look like this.
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    Nice!!! atleast everything will still be color matched

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Maz broken frame

    That's a hard way to get a new frame. You're getting quite an MTB education in just a few months. Specialized should pay you to test out their stuff. I only have had a specialized road bike, my only road bike, and it's held up OK.
    I never saw specialized MTB until I got here. I don't remember anyone in Texas with one. It was always Trek, Kona, Cannondale, Rocky Mountain, Santa Cruz, etc.. Cannondale seemed to break more though. I think mostly because they were always trying to do new things. Looks like Specialized may be going the same route.
    That is a pretty rediculous break location. Must have been bad from the factory.
    Ah, well, new is always nice even if it's warranty new.
    I rode a Trek Y 5.0 for two years before it broke and I got a nice warranty nude carbon replacement. The nice thing was they had improved the carbon layup and the rear triangle in the mean time, so it was actually an upgrade.

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    I swear in just 3 months I would have never guessed I would be this deep into mountain biking. I've been fortunate enough to ride 3-4 times a week. I still have a long ways to go though. I gotta go clipless if I want to keep advancing and improving. I think I just gotta do it.

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    The scary thing about YOU going clipless is that you already can crank up hills well on flats. With clipless you are going to be twice as efficient with the ability to pull on your pedal as well as push (theoretically you want an ideal even rotational pressure circular motion when pedaling, but in reality we all mash). This will enable you to use a bigger gear and cover more ground per rotation.
    On technical stuff, upside is the ability to pull up your bike on the stroke over obstacles instead of stalling and trying to reposition for max push onthe pedal.
    Downside, Welcome to Timberland! LOL! Part of learning curve on getting your reflex memory in unclipping fast enough not to fall. But we ALL had to go through it, and everybody has funny stories of being clipped in and falling at the wrong moments. LOL! I have tons.

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    The thing that is great about watching you progress is that you are doing it the right way. Building a cardio and skills base first, then technique and equipment, as opposed to those that worry about their equipment or image first. Next up, wrenching your own bike. That can be learned everytime I work on my bike or others, by observing, asking questions, hell even internet. But please dont get stuck on the couch being enoarmed by it all, go and do it. BTW if you need a workstand, we can make you one on the cheap but strong and functional, you saw mine. Custom brah! We put your moniker on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazukea View Post
    I swear in just 3 months I would have never guessed I would be this deep into mountain biking. I've been fortunate enough to ride 3-4 times a week. I still have a long ways to go though. I gotta go clipless if I want to keep advancing and improving. I think I just gotta do it.
    Bruddah, you've come a long way and I've been enjoying being part of the journey. You're enduring all of the same things I went through which I learned over many years. I haven't stopped learning but I guess for the most part, the curve isn't as steep these days.

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    Beautiful photos of your ride you guys! Love it. I'm a little nervous about attempting it totally on our own, but we're big kids, we'll probably be fine.

    Is that a Camber Mazukea? That was my first mountain bike, a Camber 26. I was able to score a great deal on one. It was enough to convince me I loved mountain biking and then I got a Santa Cruz Blur TRc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    Bruddah, you've come a long way and I've been enjoying being part of the journey. You're enduring all of the same things I went through which I learned over many years. I haven't stopped learning but I guess for the most part, the curve isn't as steep these days.
    Ditto on that Gmats! He's taking months to experience and learn stuff that took me years.
    The learning curve is not as steep but we still gotta conquer that steep Thousand Steps of Smoking Crater.

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    Aloha Chistieland,

    It was a great day, great ride. Riding Mana road is like I remember my surf sessions of years past. Same trail (road), same rocks and hills but always different. Some treks have been harder or easier, more or less scenic. No matter what, always a great time.

    What days will you be here in town? Let's see if we can try to make this happen. I was going to be out of town Thanksgiving holiday weekend but it is looking like I'll stay on island because my girlfriend has a theater performance. Big Island peeps, what days are you guys available to ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christieland View Post
    Beautiful photos of your ride you guys! Love it. I'm a little nervous about attempting it totally on our own, but we're big kids, we'll probably be fine.

    Is that a Camber Mazukea? That was my first mountain bike, a Camber 26. I was able to score a great deal on one. It was enough to convince me I loved mountain biking and then I got a Santa Cruz Blur TRc.
    Yup, Camber 29er is down for the moment. The new frame is being flown in. I believe it should be here tomorrow. The LBS plans to rebuild the bike over the weekend and have it ready for me by next week. They are also rebuilding my rear wheel with a new CK hub, spokes, and nipples. It's going to be a brand new bike!

    The Santa Cruz Blur is a beautiful bike! Nice choice.

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