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    Question with 09 Haro X6

    I just got what I think was a great deal on a 2009 Haro X6... Regular price was $1299 and was marked $899 and I offered $800 and they accepted at Sun and Ski Sports. Is that a good deal? I'm sure I could've gotten it used or online for less but I really wanted the option of taking it back to a store for repairs and tune-ups. I know NOTHING about bikes as I am brand new to riding.

    Next question... I am 5'7" tall with a 30" pant inseam and I got a small 16" bike. I am a little concerned with the crotch clearance. I have MAYBE half an inch but the guys at the store insist that the bike is the right size for me. I LOVE the bike so far other than that one concern... I just don't want to damage "the family," as it were. How important is the 1"-2" clearance that is recommended if the bike is a good fit? I thought I might be able to get another quarter inch if I got some lower profile tires... Is that a viable option? Is it worth it?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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    Im 5'7" also and like the fit of a 16" because of its flickabality yet a 17" would be a better XC fit, I dont XC. Sounds like you have the right size for you dont worry about the SO if your crashing your going over or down not doing a crotch flop on the TT.

    What tire PSI are you riding and what type of riding you doing?
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    I am new so pardon me if I get the jargon incorrect...
    I do mostly technical through the woods where it winds a lot and is pretty hilly. And another area is more like XC with a lot of fast riding with rolling hills and a little bit of tech through the woods. I ended up ordering some Panaracer Fire XC tires to go from 2.35 to 2.1 tires. That might give me a little more SO... I wanted the tires for the red wall, anyway. I am not sure about the PSI of the tire. They put air in at the bike shop... I do know the tires are very firm so it must be really high. Is it ok to let some air out so they squish a little? What PSI is good on a typical 2.35 tire I have and the 2.1 I am going to be putting on soon for the riding I described?

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    I run between 20-29psi with 2.35 rear and 2.5 front tires but I ride FR and DH. You would most likely want to ride 28-32psi let the tire do its job. If you over inflate the ride is solid which is great if your riding the road for more speed but your riding off road in the real world
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    So, 28-32 is cool for the 2.35s I have? What about the PSI for the 2.1s I am about to get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh_Still28
    So, 28-32 is cool for the 2.35s I have? What about the PSI for the 2.1s I am about to get?
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    You think 2.1 is a bad idea for doing some technical stuff through very curvy paths through the woods? It's mostly hardpack and roots... Very little gravel/mud/sand. Honestly, I just wanted the tires for the red wall. lol The 09 Haro X6 is white with some red accents so I'm adding red grips and those tires to accent it with more red. Gotta look cool while riding, ya know. (-8 If they're just way too small I'll send em back... I got a hell of a deal on em. 52 bux for the pair from Universal Cycles.

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    Every rider has different opinions about what does and doesnt work. Since your new to MTB go fer it and you decide, if they dont work out you should be able to sell them for what you paid.

    While your playing with tires also try running a 2.35 front tire with the 2.1 on the rear.
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    Cool, I'll give it a shot... Thanks for the replies!

    p.s. Any idea why I have two usernames? I don't have two accounts here I don't think... One of my e-mails is stillw22. Maybe I made another account in my sleep???

    edit: OK, that was the account I originally created that I couldn't verify (I thought) for some reason. Guess I logged in to that one by mistake...

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    Contact the powers that be at MTBR they should be able to delete the lost account for you.

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    I put those 2.1 panaracers on and they are SO much faster than those 2.35 kendas! I did lose some traction in the rear, though... In fact, I had a rough spill because of it. I just need to get used to it. The speed is fun, though. One thing I noticed... I got them put on by Sun and Ski because I don't have any tools to put tires on and they put the rear tire on backwards. Does that matter? Apparently, they go one way for front and the opposite for the rear on the panaracers. My kendas just had one direction for both. Should I get them to switch the rear tire around? Maybe that's why I lost traction? i dunno.

    By the way, those red-wall panaracers with troy lee red grips look SUPER cool on the 09 Haro X6 (it's white with red accent logos). Style is important..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh_Still28
    One thing I noticed...the rear tire on backwards. Does that matter? Apparently, they go one way for front and the opposite for the rear on the panaracers

    Front tire is designed for braking rear for acceleration so it can make a difference.

    http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help

    http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/fix/index.htm

    You should at least learn how to repair a flat which is 1/2 of a tire change.
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    After you get some rides on the rear tire in the proper direction swap the front out to the 2.35 an give it a few rider. The concept on a fatter front tire is it cuts/cleans trail for the rear tire to rail.
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    Ok, going to Sun and Ski tomorrow to get them to change the tire around. Surprising they didn't do it right, huh?

    I'll def try putting a 2.35 up front and note the differences. Thanks for those links, btw. That should help a lot! I'm going to slowly start buying some bike-specific tools so I can do some stuff myself. Mountain biking is very expensive... I mean, I knew it was going to be but there are a lot of things I didn't account for. lol

    edit: I really like how fast the bike is with the 2.1s on front and rear... Will having a 2.35 up front slow it down a noticeable amount?

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    They are human, Iv done the same thing when wrenching on a moto customer comes back and points it out you feel lame and have to resolve it right now because your the "professional". Im sure you have done similar in your line of work or hobby, its gonna happen.

    Its hard to say if the 2.35 will slow the roll, allot depends on the rubber compound and thread design. I ride the Maxxis High Roller 2.35 rear with the Minion 2.5 3C front they are not the fastest tires. But when going to the WTB 2.5 Dissent F & R this is a much faster setup but the confidence reliability is sketchy so I stick with the Maxxis. After a couple years youll find the right tire for you but still wander to try other ones to see if maybe they have that little somthin special.

    Buy some tire irons tomorrow when you go the the LBS. If they have the Pedros they rock otherwise the Park Tools.

    http://www.spadout.com/c/tire-tools/

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    Yeah, true... I've def done my share of f-ups in my job.
    So, I guess I should take back the plastic tire tools I bought at wal-mart last night for 3 bux? haha I usually don't skimp on tools but the tire tool seemed like it wouldn't matter as much. Of course, I'm not even close to an expert.

    I didn't get the chance to get the tire switched but i may actually try it myself. I bought a pump and cheap-ass tire tools. i guess i'll see how they work. i wanna try the bike with the 2.35 up front.
    Thanks for all the help, man.

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    LoL the cheapo tire irons will be fine if the tire has a loose fit like a Kevlar bead. If you get into a stiffer bead or a tighter fitting tire you will be very frustrated as they bend like gumby. Many time on Kevlar beads you dont even need tire irons just experience or luck. A good tip is to add cheapo baby powder inside the tire spin the tube around to coat then mount. The baby powder prevents the tube from sticking to the tire as well at helping against snake bite, the tube slams the rim and leaves 2 holes that look like a snake bite.
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    So, I attempted to change my back tire around and swap the front tire from the 2.1 back to a 2.35 and neither tube would hold air when I was done. lol I know for sure I tore a hole in the front one with the tire tool and tried to patch it with one of those slime circle patch things. Guess it didn't work... The back tube I'm not exactly sure what happened but it wouldn't hold air, either. Anyway, I took it to the bike shop and I guess they had sympathy on my newbness as they decided to not only do the work for free but not charge me for the new tubes, either. That was pretty sweet... Although, I did have to feel like an idiot explaining what I had done. I can't even change an effing bike tire successfully!! haha Oh well, it was my first try.

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    LoL you made the attempt thats Awesome better is you went back to the LBS and told them the truth they obviously respected your courage and honesty and paid you for that. Now go back with a 6 pack of brew

    Here is a article I did for Spadout it might be helpful for your next attempt. Wouldnt hurt to have a couple of spare tubes one for the Camelbak and another for home.

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    haha well, thanks for making me feel better about it. Got my bike back last night in perfect condition. They had to do something with the front brakes, also. The pad was rubbing the disc really bad for some reason. Appreciate the link... That'll help next time for sure. I'm gonna be trying different combos of tires. I have the 2.35 kenda on front and 2.1 panaracer on rear, for now.

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    Cool looking forward to your opinion/report on tire testing.
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