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    Haro Mary Pictures/Info/Comments Thread

    I like my Mary so much I though it would be fun to start a strictly Mary SS/Mary XC forum. Here you can post your pictures, stories, comments, and questions on the Mary.

    I'll start with my 2007 Mary SS Frame up with:
    Reba SL 80mm
    Panaracer Rampage front tire
    Geax Saguaro rear tire
    Bontrager Race Lite Crank with Truvativ BB(maybe will be changed)
    Thomson seatpost
    Specialized Rival Saddle, Wedge and computer
    BB7 Mech's
    SRAM 8-Speed Chain
    ESI Chunky Grips


    Possible Upgrades:
    Shimano Crank
    Thomson stem+Monkey Lite Bar

    Definite upgrades:
    light dimension pro anodized black pedals(will save .5-1lb)

    Possible weight savings:
    Thomson Stem Over Bontrager Select: 10 Grams
    Monkey Light Handlebar over Bontrager Select: 100 Grams
    XT Crank over Bontrager Race Lite: 50-200Grams
    Dimension Pro Platform Pedals: 588-240=348Grams
    Total= <658Grams
    1.45lbs
    28.5-1.45=27.05lbs

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    9 months on Mary

    Had 2 bikes when I bought this one - only've got this one now. Rides like gold, but appears to be turning into titanium...

    '07 20" Haro Mary SS
    Fox F29 RLC @ 100mm
    Kent Eriksen ti seatpost
    WTB Rocket V Stealth ti-railed saddle
    Xpedo Ti/Ti SPD-type pedals
    Specialized Resolution Pro/front
    Maxxis Crossmark/rear
    ESI Chunky grips
    On order: Black Sheep ti bar based on Mary bar, but 1" wider

    Weight ?

    Possible Upgrades:
    Fizik Gobi ti saddle (one WTB rail looks slightly bent)
    Converting the F29 to 80mm to sharpen the steering
    Hydraulic brakes
    Nice wheelset

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    I fell in love with Mary way back in September of 06. This bike by far has been my favorite bike to this day. My gearie is worth about 3 times as much and it just sits in the corner. I love the way this bike rides and handles, its a true joy to ride. Its been here before but I'll post again.

    18 in Mary ss
    ergons
    thompson stem
    easton carbon bars and seat post
    king headset
    pace carbon fork
    right now its got Ignitors on it
    Rotor ring

    This pic shows it with an easton stem and some spacers, that was just for testing. Since then it has been replaced with the above mentioned Thompson and trimmed up nicely.
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    here is mine

    I have had this about 3 weeks and I love it. I changed the seat to my trusty old Koobi, added my clipless pedals and also a Stan's kit.
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    Nice rides everyone!!! Here's a funky Mary build I did:


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    I'm a huge fan of the Mary. Don't have any new photos yet though. I've since added 08 XT cranks to the SS, and returned to the stock steel fork. 08 avid mechs on the way, and 08 black avid levers because I crashed and bent one two weeks ago. Also adding a WTB weirwolf up front. XT/WTB Speeddisc wheelset also mounted since the front hub started making a sweaty fingers on a balloon sound when it was spinning and I had the spares lying around. New pic soon.

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    Mary SS no more

    Here's a couple of pictures of my Mary I put together April 2007.

    Specs:
    2007 20" Mary SS
    Reba SL fork
    Rohloff Speedhub
    BB7's
    Surly chainring
    Upgraded platform pedals
    Most everything else was standard on the Mary

    I've rebuilt the rear wheel since the picture to get rid of the DTSwiss rim, and put back on the WTB rim that came with the Mary. I also now am riding with a Nevegal on the front instead of the Exiwolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhilljill
    Nice rides everyone!!! Here's a funky Mary build I did:

    Hey, Jill! She's a Beaut! I love the fenders! You'd never want to get them wet

    I'm "kinda" going in somewhat the same direction, at least with the Brooks B-17 saddle (not pictured). I really love the way the light brown leather complements the Humbolt Green. I have also added some green Crank Bothers Acid pedals and switched the tires to Kenda Small Blocks.

    Anyhoo, here's mine on her maiden voyage--a pretty rocky and somewhat technical trail. <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/crazy4blues/MarySS.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy4blues
    Hey, Jill! She's a Beaut! I love the fenders! You'd never want to get them wet

    I'm "kinda" going in somewhat the same direction, at least with the Brooks B-17 saddle (not pictured). I really love the way the light brown leather complements the Humbolt Green. I have also added some green Crank Bothers Acid pedals and switched the tires to Kenda Small Blocks.

    Anyhoo, here's mine on her maiden voyage--a pretty rocky and somewhat technical trail. <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/crazy4blues/MarySS.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
    Nice!

    I'm really amazed at how comfortable Brooks saddles are. The saddle on this bike is the Flyer; the springs give it a little "travel".

    I actually rode that bike around my neighborhood with a friend yesterday...went to breakfast and tooled around a bit. It was funny to see the looks I got from the hardcore roadies. It's the perfect little "fun" bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhilljill
    I actually rode that bike around my neighborhood with a friend yesterday...went to breakfast and tooled around a bit. It was funny to see the looks I got from the hardcore roadies. It's the perfect little "fun" bike.
    True, but it's also a very serious trail bike that'll get you around all but the most technical terrain. I think you guys hit a homerun with the Mary, especially the SS. Its spec and price really do add up to kind of a gestalt-like formula. Hey, if it can attract a die-hard Santa Cruz guy, you guys have to be doing something right. So far, I've ridden my SS on the same trails as my Blur LT, and the GPS results are the same--at 1/3 of the price. In fact, I just put some Kenda Small Blocks on and had my best climb ever. I think the Mary SS will be a cult classic.

    Keep up the good work!

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    Currently serving as a commuter. Nothing a quick ring and tire change couldn't solve.



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    Update

    I have changed many of the components on my Mary, and here is the updated parts list
    American Classic SS wheels
    Kenda Small Block Eight's
    Bontrager Switchblade
    Dimension Pedals
    Bontrager Race Lite Stem
    WTB Devo Sweep
    Bontager Big Sweep 12 Degree
    New Rotors
    no more computer
    Old Weight- 28.1lbs
    New Weight- 23.06lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbo43867
    I have changed many of the components on my Mary, and here is the updated parts list
    American Classic SS wheels
    Kenda Small Block Eight's
    Bontrager Switchblade
    Dimension Pedals
    Bontrager Race Lite Stem
    WTB Devo Sweep
    Bontager Big Sweep 12 Degree
    New Rotors
    no more computer
    Old Weight- 28.1lbs
    New Weight- 23.06lbs
    Wow! That's quite a weight savings! I've got a Switchblade on my Mary; I might have to get me a set of the AC wheels and mount small blocks to them so my bike will be as light as yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbo43867
    I have changed many of the components on my Mary, and here is the updated parts list
    American Classic SS wheels
    Kenda Small Block Eight's
    Bontrager Switchblade
    Dimension Pedals
    Bontrager Race Lite Stem
    WTB Devo Sweep
    Bontager Big Sweep 12 Degree
    New Rotors
    no more computer
    Old Weight- 28.1lbs
    New Weight- 23.06lbs
    Very nice! I have small blocks on mine right now, and while there's significant weight savings, they really require pretty mellow trails. On the American Classics, I have them on my 26er, and they are so good, I'm sure I'll end up with a set for the Mary sooner or later.

    So how did the fork affect the geo?

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    Mary SS. No, I'm not a Catholic or a Nazi.

    Since post #2 above, I had '08 XT hydraulic levers/calipers installed and retained the stock rotors.

    Plus my Black Sheep faux-Mary ti bar finally arrived - I ordered it back when I was convinced I'd stay fully rigid

    Also to note - the 27.2 Eriksen post is secured by a 31.6/27.2 post shim inside the stock shim. Works perfectly - thanks for the tip downhilljill!

    Mine's a Frankenstein that hasn't dropped any weight despite a lot of money dropped, but the ride is real sweet.

    More current picture (yesterday), leaning against my recliner I bought used on CraigsList 5 years for $50:
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    The Mary was bought as a friends bike but is growing on me more and more and has replaced my Karate Monkey as the ride of choice. Absolutely rock steady handling. I get comments about the look of the wheels with the bike every time I ride

    Magura Marta SL brakes
    Rock Shox Reba fork
    Cane Creek S2 headset
    Cane Creek Thudbuster LT
    Bontrager CRZ+ Sport saddle
    Industry Nine Wheels using DT Swiss Rims and orange spokes
    Panaracer Rampage tires
    Chris King stainless cog
    ODI Rogue Lockon Grips
    Dangerboy endcaps
    Odyssey Cielencki copper platform pedals
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    I just picked up a Mary SS last night! First ride is today. It's a blue one, and stock for now except for the pedals so I won't bore you with the pictures. I have a set of silver/blue I9's that are going on the bike though which should be awesome. I also have new 18t and 20t cogs on order as well as a Surly spacer kit.

    After riding my friends Mary and then spending some more time on one in Vegas I knew that this was a great bike have around. I'm also looking forward to trying the 180mm cranks because it's something I probably never would have purchased on its own.

    I already have a Sultan but the Mary may steal a lot of my local trail time. My friends are already trying to talk me into doing the next 12hr race I have planned on this thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by downhilljill
    Wow! That's quite a weight savings! I've got a Switchblade on my Mary; I might have to get me a set of the AC wheels and mount small blocks to them so my bike will be as light as yours.
    Well, Jill, you know who to call ! !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltj
    I get comments about the look of the wheels with the bike every time I ride
    Excellent! I normally don't care for spokes that aren't silver or black (that's putting it nicely), but these are outstanding!!! Nice job.
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    my mary needed to get fixed

    20" ss
    fizik aliante
    bb7
    ouray grips
    38t ring, 18-22t cogs
    weirwolf rear, saguro front
    l&m vega
    serfas tl2100

    After reading http://63xc.com/jasom/milldisc.htm for turning a disk hub into a fixed gear, I spayed mary. I've had my fix for about a week. I'm getting to know her new personality via commuting and riding plowed or trampled cement trails. Nearby singletrack is still unrideable with snow.
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    Rigid keeps you one with the ground vertically. Fixed keeps you one with the ground horizontally.

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    Thinking about giving my Mary a fork upgrade, just wondering about the ride quality improvement in going to Carbon rigid, or should I just sell my soul and get a suspension fork. Or should I just harden up and stop whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiTexan
    Thinking about giving my Mary a fork upgrade, just wondering about the ride quality improvement in going to Carbon rigid, or should I just sell my soul and get a suspension fork. Or should I just harden up and stop whining.
    I struggled with this issue for a long time. If you search the Single Speed forum, you'll find lots of threads on this. My take on the issue:

    If you're looking to just make your bike feel smoother and bit more compliant, a carbon fork might be a good, albeit expensive choice. If you're still riding with the stock Mary grips, I'd first suggest putting on some ESI Chunky grips (or other vibration-dampening grips) - I was surprised at the difference this made.

    For compliance through rocks, the best remedy is big fat tires run at the lowest psi possible without pinch flatting, combined with a rigid-specific riding style: unweighting/lifting the front end when needed, a looser handgrip, well-chosen lines, etc. Beyond that, a more compliant rigid fork is helpful, too, but at some point, a suspension fork makes more sense than trying to create suspension through a collection of flexing parts.

    My trails are steep and rocky and moving to a suspension fork really allowed me to get back to attacking technical downhills and having more fun. But riding rigid for 6-8 months really increased my skill level. If my trails were smoother, I would definitely have stayed fully rigid.
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    Thanks for the input. I've switched grips to Ourys, gone tubless with Ignitors at about 20psi, both of which helped. Never a problem when just out riding with the boys, but for the (very) occasional race when you are trying to get a bit more out of it, makes me wish for a bit of cush up front. $$ is a factor, carbon forks in NZL are more wholesale price than retail price in the US.

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    how fast do you want to go?

    Sounds like you have made the easy changes and you are still wanting more speed. The question is how much more? The faster you want, the more a suspended fork is the better answer. I've used the Reba before - run locked with high flood gate for only a few mills of suspension before blowthrough on really hard hits. Lower the gate to dial in 5-30 mm before blowthrough, or unlock with lower compression dampening to dial in even more suspension. An then there is the 85, 100, 115 total to dial in. Talk about scalability.

    I think a cf fork is for those committed to rigid and want to tweak the experience. Are you within tweaking distance?
    Rigid keeps you one with the ground vertically. Fixed keeps you one with the ground horizontally.

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    I finally got my Mary SS together. I figured that I should take a couple of pics before I get her dirty. I did what I could to overcome the 6 lb frame, but I could only get it to 24.0 lbs on my digital scale. I am still waiting for my tubeless valve stems so that I can run tubeless, and I am going to machine some material out of the ebb. I should be able to get it into the 23 lb range.
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    have a previous year XC, after i sorted thru the spec parts, i have it how i want it. 1st off i like hideous greens.

    chuck the brakes, saddle, grips, seatpost, and pedals and ur doin just fine.

    standard issue except these items which went on bike during build:

    avid CPS mech discs (call them bb7s now, 5s are junk)
    Ourys
    SpeedV Chrome Saddle
    ATACs
    Ritchey Comp Post (Old, Pro Post doesnt stay happy - nut crusher). Thomson soon.

    Still on Stock Rubber, pretty good stuff all-around, lil off on mud. no biggie.



    delish bike, it will not go anywhere. NRS hangs on wall. Screw aluminum, Screw FS designs (and their redesigns) and screw small wheels.

    Next up, this La Cruz is lookin nice for a Cross/Road/Comm Bike

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    Anyone riding a Mary that is geared?? I would love to see a few and maybe include the weight. Im thinking about getting one, but i may use it for some XC races...

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    If you scroll up in this thread to my "Mary SS no more" entry, you'll see pictures of a geared bike. Probably not what you're looking for however...

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    I just picked up my Mary SS a week ago. I test rode w/ the stock bar and just couldn't do it. The shop swapped a Titec riser and FSA stem for me. Only other parts added (not pictured) are a pair of CB Mallet C pedals and larger brake rotors (203f, 180r).

    I rode this weekend and found my elbow shocks don't work like they did 12 years ago (last time I rode rigid anything) so I'm in the market for a decent 100mm fork. I'll be fine dealing with the rigid ride until then. Hydro disks are on the future mod list. The only other immediate change will be to install a set of FSA Afterburner cranks I bought for my previous bike before I picked this up.

    Here it is the day I brought it home



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    Quote Originally Posted by bgredjeep
    I just picked up my Mary SS a week ago. ... I rode this weekend and found my elbow shocks don't work like they did 12 years ago (last time I rode rigid anything) so I'm in the market for a decent 100mm fork. I'll be fine dealing with the rigid ride until then.
    Congrats on the new mary!

    Rocky/ruff downhills at speed are about the only time I miss a suspension fork. I may be wrong but those tires look like they are pumped up pretty tight. What air pressure are you running? I weigh 185 + gear and run 20-25 psi in the front, 28-30 in the rear. That takes the edge off and will make dealing with the rigid a little easier till the 100mm is chosen.

    If you want to slow your downhills to rigid speed, you can throw a tomicog on for a fix gear experience! One or two teeth less than the freewheel cog seems about right.
    Rigid keeps you one with the ground vertically. Fixed keeps you one with the ground horizontally.

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    nah, I'd rather speed up the bike to my downhill speeds. I was running 35psi as the tire listed. At the advise of a friend at the trailhead I dropped the front to ~25psi and it did help. I'm ~220lbs ready to ride so I didn't want to go too low. I can certainly deal with the rigid fork for a little while as our trails are mostly pretty smooth but suspension is in my near future. I'm used to a 5" Marz fork on my 26" SS so the rigid was a bit of a shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgredjeep
    . I'm used to a 5" Marz fork on my 26" SS so the rigid was a bit of a shock.
    Ummmm . . .

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    I have had my Mary SS for a few weeks now and love it. This is my first SS mountain bike and it is a lot different then my Yeti 575. Definitely lose speed on the descents compared to the 575 but thats not really fair comparison. The bars do take some time to get used to but they are growing on me I think they shine when you are standing to climb mine just seem to be perfectly place with that weird bend. I really like having the to completely different bikes so that when my mood, ride, or even riding partner changes I can go with what ever fits. I will have pics coming soon I just forget my dang camera every time I hit the trail lately.

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    Weight Weenie Mary SS

    Mary has just finished her diet:
    C29ssmax wheels
    2.25 Racing Ralph tyres with Stans goop
    Salsa carbon bar
    Syncros stem
    Easton alloy post
    Token ti seat collar
    SLR saddle
    Crank Bros headset
    Cobalt cranks w/Ti BB
    Candy SL pedals
    Stroker Trail Brakes
    Only stock bits remaining are the frame and fork!
    As it stands the bike is down to 10kg / 22lbs
    Could drop a few 100g more with ESI grips, lighter brakes, chain & pedals but happy with it for now.
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    Mate your Mary is HOT!! Great work on getting it so light.. Good to see that its still a fun bike. I hate it when people go over the top with making bikes 2 light and then they can't ride them the way they should.. Good job.

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    Brand new Mary SS..






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    Quote Originally Posted by JHwick
    Mary has just finished her diet:
    C29ssmax wheels
    2.25 Racing Ralph tyres with Stans goop
    Salsa carbon bar
    Syncros stem
    Easton alloy post
    Token ti seat collar
    SLR saddle
    Crank Bros headset
    Cobalt cranks w/Ti BB
    Candy SL pedals
    Stroker Trail Brakes
    Only stock bits remaining are the frame and fork!
    As it stands the bike is down to 10kg / 22lbs
    Could drop a few 100g more with ESI grips, lighter brakes, chain & pedals but happy with it for now.
    Very nice!

    Is that the Salsa carbon bar with 17 degrees of back sweep?

    ESI grips was one of my Mary's first upgrades, and the best bang for buck upgrade I've ever done. Not sure what you have on there now, but the upgrade over stock made my rigid front end feel much quieter/smoother. I was surprised at the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IntheBush
    Brand new Mary SS..



    Nice! Looks like the quintessential mountain bike to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder1
    Nice! Looks like the quintessential mountain bike to me.
    Thanks..

    Yeah, I've had a chance to get everything mounted, chain lubed up properly, brakes adjusted, etc..and take a look at everything this morning and take it for a test spin or two..

    This is a very good SS rigid MTB.. The wheels are big, big.. And take a little getting used too compared to 26".. Boy do they roll. The BB5's are adequate.

    It's not cheap nor is it the most expensive SS out there, but then it's tight, well equipped for the price, well designed and well built production MTB..

    I'm happy with my choice, and I'm a somewhat demanding sort. Just ask my dealer..

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    Yep, it is a 17degree sweep on the Salsa bar — found it to be pretty good and the Salsa's seem to offer more comfort/flex than most carbon bars.
    The 10kg weigh was actually with ESI grips (they are ODI grips in the photo).

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    Picked this up a few weeks ago. So far it's just a standard Mary SS with the bars flipped, some bar tape and some old Oury grips.

    I need the change the gear ratio desperately. It'll be a commuter so I need better tyres and a ratio that'll allow me to go a bit quicker. Would be nice to get a bit lighter saddle for it too..
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    Wow...I'm digging the bar flip. I think I might try that on my Mary SS!

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    I like the idea of the bar tape on the Marys as well, especially for a commuter like that. Cool set up.

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    Bit of a bump from my last post - What are the smallest tires you can fit on the WTB Laser Disc Trail rims?

    Also, what tool do I need to remove the lockring on the Pivit hub? I assume they take Shimano splined cogs? Can you use the wider based cogs like the Surly cogs? I assume I just need to use different sized spacers?

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    surly cogs work fine. The laser trail rim ID is 19mm - I wouldn't go less than 32C myself, actually I went with the 35C Schwalbe marathon supremes for soaking up potholes, etc. Depending on your topography, etc. I run a 48x20 or 18. stylo is a 104 BCD crank for ring size.

    One example to remove the cog lockring is http://www.parktool.com/products/det...5&item=HCW%2D5
    Rigid keeps you one with the ground vertically. Fixed keeps you one with the ground horizontally.

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    Went for 37c Conti Country Ride's in the end. Great for commuting. Also chucked risers back on it. Not sure what I want to stick with yet. Wouldn't mind giving some drops a try next.
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    Mary 1 x 9, with studs.
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    burrrr that looks ccccollldddd
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
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    15 deg F. Perfect!

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    top stuff moe. live to ride, ride to live hey!

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    Moe, I'd love to use your ice shots and maybe a word or two from you about where the photo was taken and what riding on ice was like so I can post it on our website. That's really cool! Not something people see every day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by downhilljill
    Moe, I'd love to use your ice shots and maybe a word or two from you about where the photo was taken and what riding on ice was like so I can post it on our website. That's really cool! Not something people see every day!
    Sure! PM sent.

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    I finally remembered to get a pic p of the old Mary SS.
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    Wow! what a nice pic! I might be able to use this one for the website, too. If that's OK, PM me with your name and where the pic was taken.

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    Snow covering the ice this week. But still icy in spots. 5 Deg F.
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    I'll add mine to the bunch here...

    2007 18" Mary SS
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    Still has the stock BB5 brakes for now but with a 185mm front rotor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genom
    I'll add mine to the bunch here...

    2007 18" Mary SS
    Rampage front tire, Nanoraptor rear
    On One SL carbon fork
    Surly 18T cog
    Still has the stock BB5 brakes for now but with a 185mm front rotor
    Shimano M540 pedals

    Nice! How do you like the carpet fiber fork compared to the oem steel? Handling? Feel? Thanks, Moe

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    The On One fork has more rake over stock so immediately I noticed the bike handled quicker, but not twitchy. The fork also absorbs (to a certain extent) alot of the fine chatter that the steel fork transmits to the handlebars...so the ride is a good deal smoother with the carbon fork. Weight savings is a big plus as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genom
    The On One fork has more rake over stock so immediately I noticed the bike handled quicker, but not twitchy. The fork also absorbs (to a certain extent) alot of the fine chatter that the steel fork transmits to the handlebars...so the ride is a good deal smoother with the carbon fork. Weight savings is a big plus as well.

    So this shortens up the wheelbase right? Any issues with toe overlap?

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    The increased rake of the On One fork reduces trail, quickening the steering...wheelbase is actually a couple mm longer.

    I've had very little toe overlap on the Mary here and there and its usually in tight switchbacks.

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    Here are a couple more that I have.

    Kentucky Camp Trail near Tucson, AZ
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    Jill you guys can use the pics for the site I really don't care. Would love some stickers or something though to slap on the truck.

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    Simple, elegant, beautiful. I recently moved to D.C. from Boston, and had been lamenting the lack of good technical trails and the heavy, bouncing slog of my Enduro. I've been riding Mary for a few months now and am completely hooked. My Enduro now waits patiently for occasional Gambrill rides (damn rocky there) and Mary gets all the love. I'm completely hooked on the simplicity of the SS and absolutely loving that big 29er roll.

    My Mary is largely stock with a few upgrades: thompson seatpost, WTB laser saddle, ritchie stem (flipped for more rise since this pic), oury grips that would be fine on geared bike but are weak on SS and will soon be replaced with ergons, 32-18T, KMC 810 chain, clipless pedals with platform (forget brand right now).

    My biggest complaint is the BB5s. They are absolutely awful. Wondering if new pads might help, but admit that each ride brings me closer to hyrdaulics.

    Oh, and another favorite thing about Mary: 1/4 the cost of my Enduro. (although to be fair, I bought Enduro new and Mary used).

    Anyhoo.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jefferiah
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    My biggest complaint is the BB5s. They are absolutely awful. Wondering if new pads might help, but admit that each ride brings me closer to hyrdaulics. .
    Welcome to the forums.

    BB5's are excellent for mechanical brakes yet not as good as the BB7's, two things can case the brakes to feel poor.

    1) Not adjusted properly.
    2) you have hydros on your other bike.

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    Welcome to DC. The Mary is still my favorite ride. Brought it to DC from Germany. Just put a vassago fork on it and love the ride. I prefer fast and swoopy to slow techy trails, so I've found Rosaryville in MD, and Laurel Hill in Lorton VA to be rigid SS heaven.

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    I'm in love with Mary and the wifes a bit jealous

    Heres my baby, just a few changes
    Brooks B17, carbon seatpost and clamp, Oury Grips, Shimano LX brakes 180F, 160R, DMR V8 pedals
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    Here's My Mary

    Here's my Mary... (heavyduty'ized for my 250lb self )

    BB7's 185
    Thudbuster ST for my soft butt
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    Very nice, that rear hub is HUGE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moementum
    Very nice, that rear hub is HUGE!
    Yea, but they are supposedly pretty light, like 260g.

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    at last some cool mary's

    here is mine in two configuration's road & mountain
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    Quote Originally Posted by shade13
    here is mine in two configuration's road & mountain
    Ha ha ha! Love the bathtub shot! Mary's a very dirty girl...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Welcome to the forums.

    BB5's are excellent for mechanical brakes yet not as good as the BB7's, two things can case the brakes to feel poor.

    1) Not adjusted properly.
    2) you have hydros on your other bike.

    BB5's do rock... I just have one in the rear but I love it. So easy to stop... Grips everytime.

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    All that ice riding makes Mary a very thirsty girl!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moementum
    All that ice riding makes Mary a very thirsty girl!
    Thats awesome one for you and one for Mary.
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    Just got this today. My other 29er is in for repairs (Cannondale F29 with a messed up Lefty). So, I wanted a second bike and almost got a road bike but I got Mrs. Mary SS instead...


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    Just chucked on a White Bros RSR fork and a Thomson stem
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    ... and if we just ... green mary

    Heres my new mary with the manitou minute,superlight hasn,t seen much action shes jealous Im only riding the mary latley
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    Nice Green Mary

    How do you like the Manitou minute fork? I am looking at getting one for mine.
    Is it a 100mm or 80?

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    what is the Seat Post diameter for the Mary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked Headtube
    what is the Seat Post diameter for the Mary?
    31.6

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    Finally

    After 3 months, I have finally built up the Mary XC frame that I bought.

    Here are the non-stock parts:
    Avid BB7 brakes
    Mary SS fork
    Cane Creek Frankenstein Headset
    WTB Speed V saddle
    DT Swiss Onyx Hubs with TK 7.1 rims
    Mythos XC II Tires
    Forte SS spacer/ tensioner kit
    FSA V-drive Cranks with 34t SS ring and bashguard

    On my first offroad ride I broke the chain, so something needs to be worked out with that. Otherwise I love it. It is so much different goin from FS to rigid. I can feel every pedal stroke, and the bumps too.
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    Here is the new Mary SS. Picked it up about a few weeks ago. Added the eXotic carbon fork, 520 pedals, flipped the stem and good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genom
    31.6
    But why, oh why, has it got a big shim on it as well? That really bummed me out. I hate shims!

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    Random Mary thoughts

    I've had my Haro Mary SS for 2 years now. She's had many different sets of components of these 2 years and she's still my favorite all-time bike.

    For a year I ran Mary with a Rohloff speedhub (pix posted earlier in this thread). That was fun, but it was a bit heavy and I tired of that experiment. I got lots of pinch flats from running lower pressures with that heavy hub on rough terrain. And I didn't like the ride when I pumped the tires up to high pressures. None of this was the fault of Mary, just the components I put on her.

    Last summer I converted her back to a SS with some CK hubs and Stans Flows (baby needs some new shoes!). The passion is back. I absolutely love this bike.

    I ran into DownhillJill at the San Diego Custom Bike show last weekend. I told her I saw some great eye candy while there. There was a sweet TI SS 29er bike in the Kish booth (http://www.kishbike.com/). There was also a beautiful Steel SS 26er with curved seat stays in the Sendero booth (http://senderocycles.blogspot.com/). Both were quite drool worthy. But are they worth spending 1.5 to 3.0 K$ for to upgrade above my Mary? I don't think so. There would definately be some fit improvements going to a full-custom frame over a production frame like Haro. But this Mary frame is just so good that with a few component changes, the fit can be dialed in.

    Just rambling thoughts from a happy Haro customer. I seem to have good company here as there are lots of other happy Mary customers too. Haro nailed the design of the Mary on the first try!

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    It was great to meet you at the show! And I am sincerely happy to hear that your Mary has served you well...and stood her own up against the customs you saw. The person who should be really proud is our former product manager SSMike since he designed the frame. He lurks around the Haro forum from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontheclysdale
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    BB7's 185
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    Just picked up my first SS/29er/and Haro all in one shot with my new Mary. I am anticipating purchasing a Cane Creek Thudbuster. What diameter did you (or anyone who can answer) purchase? I noted that someone mentioned the seatpost diameter was 31.6 - is that what I will need?

    Also, noticed a lot of eggbeaters on this thread - any suggestions on pedals? I was thinking about switching out to Crank Brothers Mallets - I have them on my other bike and like the versatility.

    Thanks in advance for any thoughts.....

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    I quoted someone above and my post was stuck in the middle of this thread - forgot that is what happens when you "quote." Problem is - it is never seen.

    I had comment/questions which were:

    Just picked up my first SS/29er/and Haro all in one shot with my new Mary. I am anticipating purchasing a Cane Creek Thudbuster. What diameter did you (or anyone who can answer) purchase? I noted that someone mentioned the seatpost diameter was 31.6 - is that what I will need?

    Also, noticed a lot of eggbeaters on this thread - any suggestions on pedals? I was thinking about switching out to Crank Brothers Mallets - I have them on my other bike and like the versatility.

    Thanks in advance for any thoughts.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van-Go
    I I am anticipating purchasing a Cane Creek Thudbuster. What diameter did you (or anyone who can answer) purchase? I noted that someone mentioned the seatpost diameter was 31.6 - is that what I will need?
    My '07 Mary SS (ginger) take a 31.6mm seatpost. Your seatpost should state its length/width near the bottom it shaft.

    Btw, I'm guessing most use the linear "display mode" and saw your first post. If you're not, try it (a drop down in upper right hand corner).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder1
    My '07 Mary SS (ginger) take a 31.6mm seatpost. Your seatpost should state its length/width near the bottom it shaft.

    Btw, I'm guessing most use the linear "display mode" and saw your first post. If you're not, try it (a drop down in upper right hand corner).

    1) Thanks - I'm pretty new to this so I appreciate the directions to the seatpost info. Sorta feel dumb now.

    2) Ah-ha... Switched to "linear". Now I see my posts chronologically - ie. together - which further fortifies my feeling dumb.....

    Thanks on both counts.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van-Go
    I quoted someone above and my post was stuck in the middle of this thread - forgot that is what happens when you "quote." Problem is - it is never seen.

    I had comment/questions which were:

    Just picked up my first SS/29er/and Haro all in one shot with my new Mary. I am anticipating purchasing a Cane Creek Thudbuster. What diameter did you (or anyone who can answer) purchase? I noted that someone mentioned the seatpost diameter was 31.6 - is that what I will need?

    Also, noticed a lot of eggbeaters on this thread - any suggestions on pedals? I was thinking about switching out to Crank Brothers Mallets - I have them on my other bike and like the versatility.

    Thanks in advance for any thoughts.....


    You might want to try getting off the saddle for the rough stuff, or what I call "hovering" over it. Lower psi might help also, good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhNooo
    I've had my Haro Mary SS for 2 years now. She's had many different sets of components of these 2 years and she's still my favorite all-time bike.

    For a year I ran Mary with a Rohloff speedhub (pix posted earlier in this thread). That was fun, but it was a bit heavy and I tired of that experiment. I got lots of pinch flats from running lower pressures with that heavy hub on rough terrain. And I didn't like the ride when I pumped the tires up to high pressures. None of this was the fault of Mary, just the components I put on her.

    Last summer I converted her back to a SS with some CK hubs and Stans Flows (baby needs some new shoes!). The passion is back. I absolutely love this bike.

    I ran into DownhillJill at the San Diego Custom Bike show last weekend. I told her I saw some great eye candy while there. There was a sweet TI SS 29er bike in the Kish booth (http://www.kishbike.com/). There was also a beautiful Steel SS 26er with curved seat stays in the Sendero booth (http://senderocycles.blogspot.com/). Both were quite drool worthy. But are they worth spending 1.5 to 3.0 K$ for to upgrade above my Mary? I don't think so. There would definately be some fit improvements going to a full-custom frame over a production frame like Haro. But this Mary frame is just so good that with a few component changes, the fit can be dialed in.

    Just rambling thoughts from a happy Haro customer. I seem to have good company here as there are lots of other happy Mary customers too. Haro nailed the design of the Mary on the first try!

    I totally agree with you about the Mary, great handling and ride quality. I'm running the Nevegals tubeless on Arch rims and it's better than ever. I did some research on the designer SSMike, he modelled the Mary after the early 90's 26" WTB Phoenix, considered one of the finest trail bikes ever. Absolutely nailed it. If anyone is on the fence about buying this bike, don't hesitate, you won't be dissapointed! Hi Jill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moementum
    You might want to try getting off the saddle for the rough stuff, or what I call "hovering" over it. Lower psi might help also, good luck!
    Thank you. I normally do this - just to keep from feeling beat up at rides end. I've heard the lower psi comment a couple times and will try that - I seem to recall someone mentioning 30 for my new bike (may be wrong on that - will review previous posts).

    I am interested in the Cane Creek Thudbuster just to give me some added comfort. Where I ride 90% of the time it is sufficient with roots and ruts - don't want to spend my entire ride "hovering." If anyone has a Thudbuster and can recommend which to get (size, length, etc.) for a Mary I'd appreciate your thoughts.

    While I'm at it - and since many have posted theirs - I will add a photo of my week old baby.....
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    Creaking Clicking noise!!!

    My beautiful Blue Baby has started make a horrible Clicking/Creaking noise sometimes whilst pedaling, thought it was in EBB so pulled crank and greased everything but its still there, think it might be in rear Hub freewheel mechanism, anyone else had this problem?

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    Hunting down sources of creaks on a bike can be tricky. It's often no where it sounds like it's coming from. The most common sources on a steel hardtail like the Mary:

    1) The seat tube. Grease up your seat tube and see if that helps. If you have your seatpost near the maximum extension, consider getting a longer one that will have more contact down the seat tube.

    2) EBB. I wrapped a couple of wraps of the plumbers white teflon tape around the EBB before inserting it into the frame. This keeps it snug and will help eliminate EBB creaks. A lot of people like sliding dropouts just because of EBB creaking, but the teflon tape trick works pretty well to quiet these down.

    3) Headset. Sometimes headset creaks can telegraph down steel pipes and seem like something else. But this is rare.

    4) Weak skewers. If your wheels can move around in the rear drops, then this can telegraph too. But this would be quite noticable so it's also rare.

    5) Frame cracks. If the above maintenance doesn't help, check your frame carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nauticatarcher
    My beautiful Blue Baby has started make a horrible Clicking/Creaking noise sometimes whilst pedaling, thought it was in EBB so pulled crank and greased everything but its still there, think it might be in rear Hub freewheel mechanism, anyone else had this problem?
    I had a near-new ACS freewheel creak like that. Sounded just like the bottom bracket but it was the freewheel. That was on a Surly Pugsley which also has a "back wheel" on the front so it was easy to swap them around to narrow down the problem.

    Another time the creak was from my pedals. The first thing I did was tighten them up with a pedal spanner but the creak was still there. It was only after I took them off the cranks, applied a generous amount of grease and tightened them up again that the noise went away. This was after buying a crank puller and bottom bracket tool as I was sure (again!) it was the BB creaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moementum
    I did some research on the designer SSMike, he modelled the Mary after the early 90's 26" WTB Phoenix, considered one of the finest trail bikes ever.
    Seems like someone called Moe told me that the other day

    My LBS doesn't like Haros ... maybe the owner got beat up by a kid on a BMX, hard to say. I didn't really get any details from him, so it seemed pretty subjective.

    Is there a on-line source for Haro bikes, or have they locked down their dealer network?
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    Chainring question

    When I purchased my Mary a couple weeks back one of the last things that was said to me at the LBS is that if I want to run a bigger chainring - and I might b/c the stock is sorta small - come in and we will change it.

    I may be off in my count but I'm figuring the ratio for the stock Mary is 32 X 20.

    Looking at the photos of the mountain bike Mary's on this thread it appears to my naked eye that most owners have kept the stock chainring.

    My riding thus far has suggested to me on flats I'm a little slow and peddling slightly more than I like, uphills are about perfect - as are downhills.

    This suggests to me (very much a novice SS'r) that at best a slight adjustment could be made in chainring size - but, I'm surmising that a small size change will make only a slight difference and isn't worth the trouble.

    Am I wrong? In other words - how much more would you go up in chainring size for it to make a difference?

    Thanks in advance for any reply(ies).

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    Still running standard on mine, sometimes I wish I had a taller gears sometimes lower, but most of the time feels just right, if you want to play around with gearing go buy a geared bike, Life is about compromises and as long as there is a smile on your face dont worry

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    I'm running 34 x 20 on my Mary XC convert and it seems good for where I ride. I was running 32 x 18 on my 26er FS before I got the Mary. the best thing to do would be to play around with the ratios until you get something you really like. Its cheaper to switch out cogs rather than chainrings, then once you find a good ratio, spend some money on a good cog that will last and won't tear up your freewheel/hub.

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