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    Official Zaskar/Xizang thread

    I was thinking, since 1) we have some people on here that know an awefull lot about them and 2) every second day theres a new thread about "what year/is it a?/what fits/what color/serial #" that maybe people could pool that info in one spot, so as soon as someone does ask (here or in vintage) then they can be straight away directed to a thread with it all in there... might save a lot of hassle

    and put in some pics for looking at

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    please ask the administrators to make this thread a sticky at the top of the page....

    Come on Mik...you started this your picture's first
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    well since I only have the humble re-issue as my only GT...for now... i'll post off some fave pics (that also induces the GT thread in VRC) then ask a total numbskull question...








    OK, now for my dumb qq, my zaskar has an integrated headset (or will when i figure this out), now I must have been out of the loop for a good long while, as while I know what this is, I don't know much about them, how exactly do they work? there is more than one type?? (angle) or are there anydifferences? any recomendations? or at least what will fit (and don't say chris king as for some unknown reason I don't like them, along with thomson stuff)...

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    Just bought a 2-rides-of-use-from-new polished Xizang for (relatively) little cash, it has the later (all GT terra) decals. can anyone tell me what length of fork (axle to crown) this frame was built for?

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    Post up a pic. Didn't you get a fork with the frame? The rigid 3D forks that came on the 90-92 models were 395mm. In 1993 most of the Bologna Lite forks were 405mm. You'd be best off sticking to a long travel Judy SL or less otherwise you'll be "choppering" out the ride and you'll feel it affecting your handling.
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    My GT Zaskar Carbon team





    Muddy ride!

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    Can't forget the JF

    From Mointain Bike Racing Volume 1, 1993:


    And another one from the same magazine:


    From Mointain Bike Nov 1993 issue:


    I thought I had chucked this issue but it was sleeping at the bottom of the magazine box. To me, there is no GT without these guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatake
    To me, there is no GT without these guys.
    Well they certainly were a big part of a well oiled machine...but there never would have been a team let alone GT without the vision of one man.....Richard Long
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    here a 89er gt steel xizang.................i love it


    you can tell that is a really good bike,when the name is written on the end of the top tube.

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    I love the look of that GT Carbon Team. You make me wanna cry and beg for one. I'll get one..........One of these days........One of these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikaha
    here a 89er gt steel xizang.................i love it


    Who owns that one? and why did they take the original parts off? Original spec had a Browning transmission in the front
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Post up a pic. Didn't you get a fork with the frame? The rigid 3D forks that came on the 90-92 models were 395mm. In 1993 most of the Bologna Lite forks were 405mm. You'd be best off sticking to a long travel Judy SL or less otherwise you'll be "choppering" out the ride and you'll feel it affecting your handling.

    OK here's the frame - actually a 1998 (thanks gm1230126) I hadn't seen the frame for a year before picking it up - I guess my memory is failing!



    Dropout detail:


    And by bizarre coincidence, a fork I just happened to have had for some time:



    I also have the Triple butted Bologna fork that came in my Corrado (currently running an Indy XC long travel) which I may have to use until I find some new springs for the Judy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126
    Who owns that one? and why did they take the original parts off? Original spec had a Browning transmission in the front

    .... That'd be why they changed the original parts then!!!

    Ever used one of those systems?

    Hopefully they still have the system at home so when they retire this bike they can put it back original showroom spec.

    But while it's being ridden......
    I'm Ron Burgundy?

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    Vintage 3-D
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    Heres a nice pic of me and my '99 Xizang in some night action.

    http://www.crake.smugmug.com/gallery...708_mN24j-A-LB

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    My Zaskars from left to right: Zaskar LE frame 1991, Zaskar 1992, Zaskar LE 1994, Zaskar (red) 1997, 2x Zaskar LE 1998, Zaskar 1998, Zaskar LE 2000, Zaskar Team 2004 and Zaskar Race frame 2001.


    Not shown above:
    Zaskar LE 1999 cosmic sunrise:


    Zaskar 1997:


    Zaskar 1994 purple:


    and my newest Zaskar LE 1994 frame:

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    You are such a show off Lobo! LOL. Nice rides man.
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    my all time fave.............................................. .


    you can tell that is a really good bike,when the name is written on the end of the top tube.

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    Mint 98 Zaskar

    I bought this from a guy in Venice Beach. He just wanted to sell it coz he has to buy something for his girl. I wont say how muchi got it but figure this. I copuld have bought a used 3.0 Avalanche on CL that day with the money I gave him. Lucky me!l. He bought it new in 1999, all XTR, Chris King hubs, Thomson, SDG Belair, KORE Ti Skewers/stem, etc. He did some upgrades, rode it for less than 200 miles and was put to storage in 2001. Here it is. You want to see how fresh this bike is? I have removed the crank for cleaning and I was shocked. Check the last pic.






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    OK so weall love gt's zaskars and xizangs (^nice one too by the way)...

    but all teh promo stuff for the re-issue goes on about winning, etc etc... now I only got into MTBing in 1992 and by that time it was the xizang that was the team bike... so what exactly did the zaskar win? not like i'm dissing it, i just want to know what XC/DH anything of note that was won on a zaskar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git
    OK so weall love gt's zaskars and xizangs (^nice one too by the way)...

    but all teh promo stuff for the re-issue goes on about winning, etc etc... now I only got into MTBing in 1992 and by that time it was the xizang that was the team bike... so what exactly did the zaskar win? not like i'm dissing it, i just want to know what XC/DH anything of note that was won on a zaskar?
    The Zaskar WON a lot of happy customers being the the less expensive bike compared to the XIXANG. If the Zaskar became the Titanum model, that would have been the Team GT bike of choice.

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    that really doesn't help me any

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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git
    OK so weall love gt's zaskars and xizangs (^nice one too by the way)...

    but all teh promo stuff for the re-issue goes on about winning, etc etc... now I only got into MTBing in 1992 and by that time it was the xizang that was the team bike... so what exactly did the zaskar win? not like i'm dissing it, i just want to know what XC/DH anything of note that was won on a zaskar?
    mik_gt...very true. Nearly the entire GT team with exception of Jimi Killen and the gravity guys rode Xizangs. Obviously Rishi and Juli won many races on Xizangs. But...back in 1995 some teenage kid from Pennsylvania Menonite country rode a Zaskar to the NORBA National Expert title....his name....Floyd Landis. If memory serves me correct Jimmy Kight and a couple other GT racers may have also rode Zaskars to a number of Dual Slalom and DH wins in the early 90's before the RTS came out. In nearly all regions of the US there were guys and girls riding and finishing at or near the top in expert class races almost every weekend riding Zaskars. Hans Rey won a number of (big wheel) trials titles on Zaskars also.
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    yeah thats about what i figured, (didn't forget hans, just pushed trails to the side for a bit) that regional... lesser... for want of a better word, champoinships riders would use them, but at top level the xizang would be used. I guess from the time i was buying mags, the zaskar got a lot of advertising space, but just not a lot of racing space in teh mags... Istill wanted one bad though

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    I was at more that a few Grundig and NORBA national races from 91-95 and there would be one or two other Xizang indy racers other than the GT team riders on them but there would always be another 40-50 people racing Zaskars because they couldn't afford Xizangs as was mentioned above.
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    How many use and like an 80mm fork on the old 90s frames? I had a Specialized future shock but took it off years ago. I tried a 100mm but it rode like a chopper. I have a 97 Zaskar and if I don't put a decent suspension fork on it, I may just sell it. I have a carbon fiber fork on it now but it's narrow for cantilever brakes and I run Vs.

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    can't aswer that sorry...

    did discover the allison dunlap won the 99? worlds on a white team zaskar, went throught pile of old mags

    can someone (GM) list the fork length (travel) used (geometry wise) per year for xizang (91-99)

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    Ok...its not an Xizang, but its titanium, so I think it still goes here...

    And...my bike is the sh*t, I love it, also why it goes here...

    (work in progress - new Thomson stem 0 degree to come / strip-polish-resticker forks).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mik_git View Post
    can't aswer that sorry...

    did discover the allison dunlap won the 99? worlds on a white team zaskar, went throught pile of old mags

    can someone (GM) list the fork length (travel) used (geometry wise) per year for xizang (91-99)
    You can just look at the German katalog site. They have all the Rock Shox Catalogs. 48mm in the early Mag 21 years, them in the Judy/SL it was in the 60-73 range and I think by 97ish thru 99 they were most all 80mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffgothro View Post
    Ok...its not an Xizang, but its titanium, so I think it still goes here...

    And...my bike is the sh*t, I love it, also why it goes here...

    (work in progress - new Thomson stem 0 degree to come / strip-polish-resticker forks).
    Any updates on the stickers/decals job ?

    Really nice bike btw. Happy you got her

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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    No...well, I found I guy who can do it, but its up in the air still (color wise), least till I get the forks done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffgothro View Post
    No...well, I found I guy who can do it, but its up in the air still (color wise), least till I get the forks done.

    You're not gonna do it red ?
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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Don't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126 View Post
    Don't do it.
    Do what ?
    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126 View Post
    Don't do it.
    Yeah, do what?
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    Zaskar and Rock Shox confusion

    Just picked up a 97 Zaskar that was in need of some serious TLC. The frame isn't too bad once cleaned (assuming I can get the cranks off and bottom bracket out without doing damage). Currently it has a Judy XC with a busted fork brace. If the guts of the shock are OK can I just find a lower tube assembly and are they all fairly similar or must I find an exact match?

    The fork choices seem mind boggling. I've only had experience with the 95 Girvin fork w/Risse upgrades so all the choices have left me confused. Looking for some suggestions on what years/models of front shocks are compatible.

    If it is spec'd as an 80-100 mm travel fork is that pretty much ideal? I'm presuming I can set a fork like that for 80 mm travel. The full 100 mm seems to be a bit much and leads to a 'chopper-like' handling according to some.

    Roughly 200 lbs of out of shape rider. My days of really abusing a bike are over. The fork won't be subject to any 2 foot drop offs or anything.

    Any tips or advice is appreciated!

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    [QUOTE=kikaha;5611431]here a 89er gt steel xizang.................i love it

    That is SWEET! Still riding an '89 myself but it's no Xizang (Karakorum K2 in what has been called the ugliest GT paint scheme ever - Violet Thunder).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffgothro View Post
    Yeah, do what?
    Paint a Ti frame. It will be one of the biggest nastiest mistakes you'll ever make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126 View Post
    Paint a Ti frame. It will be one of the biggest nastiest mistakes you'll ever make.
    Never said I was going to paint the frame...hmmmm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm1230126 View Post
    Paint a Ti frame. It will be one of the biggest nastiest mistakes you'll ever make.
    We were talking about the decals/graphics restoration. To get the frame back to the original graphic package. That frame is so sexy in raw Ti, and red graphics will make it even more RAW !

    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    2011 Zaskar 29er Pro

    I purchased this bike a few months ago after riding a FS since 97', it reminded me what I was missing....the awesome ride of a HT GT!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Official Zaskar/Xizang thread-camerazoom-20111221215224237.jpg  


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    Saving place for the 2012 Zaskar Carbon 9r Pro I ordered about 2 hours ago from Bike Doctor in Waldorf, MD. Great store and friendly people. I will be posting pics of it when I get it home next week. Bought XTR pedals for it too. Can't wait to get it dirty!!

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    Any photos of Furtado or Grewal with their bikes from 1994?
    Wanted: more of the same ... but different

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    I'm sure I used to have some... but if I still do...or the finding... well
    All the gear and no idea.

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    1996 Zixang

    here are a few pics of mine after building it back with all the original parts it had when I was racing her.. except the fork (had a rockshox/specialized Future shock).
    Official Zaskar/Xizang thread-7129117553_aecb5ce1fb_c.jpg
    Official Zaskar/Xizang thread-6983032494_f24436aa0a_c.jpg
    Official Zaskar/Xizang thread-7129118619_31374a350f_c.jpg

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    Nice, thats really nice
    All the gear and no idea.

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    I run a SID 80mm travel on mine and it's great.. I had a FOX F32 set at 80 when I was running it as a single speed and that fork was a great fork for the Xizang.
    was still plenty quick in the woods, actually much more than the Bianchi Grizzly that has the fork now and it's built for 80mm.
    hope that helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Root Beer View Post
    How many use and like an 80mm fork on the old 90s frames? I had a Specialized future shock but took it off years ago. I tried a 100mm but it rode like a chopper. I have a 97 Zaskar and if I don't put a decent suspension fork on it, I may just sell it. I have a carbon fiber fork on it now but it's narrow for cantilever brakes and I run Vs.

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    Re: Official Zaskar/Xizang thread

    Hey mik,

    I used a cane creek IS http://www.canecreek.com/products/headsets/110headset (110 IS41 *red*) on my re-issue. Wonderful product.

    I've since parted the bike out and just have the headset hanging out in my parts bin....

    Pay for shipping, and you can have it. :thumbup:

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    derrgti, that bike is RAD! Looks great!

    There is a write up on the new GT Xizang 29'er in Mountain Bike Action this month....good read, although they are not stoked on it. I would love to get one, but I'll never buy a hardtail again.
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    You must be really bored if you have read this entire post.

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    thanks!! i love it, a little on the small side for me so I generally just ride it around the hood with my son..

    I haven't seen that yet, ill look for it.. but I do like the look of the new one, if they make a 650b ill really have to look into picking one up.

    Quote Originally Posted by TAOS1 View Post
    derrgti, that bike is RAD! Looks great!

    There is a write up on the new GT Xizang 29'er in Mountain Bike Action this month....good read, although they are not stoked on it. I would love to get one, but I'll never buy a hardtail again.

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