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    GT Zaskar Pro/Elite 9r (29"er)

    I understand the Zaskar 9r Pro and Elite models are out and are being offered only though one outlet. Their website mention everything about the bikes but nothing on geometry or weight. The bikes are an exclusive offering for one dealer so the GT website isn't any help. If anyone can shed some light on these bikes I would appreciate hearing details. Thanks, Ed

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    Check the 29er forum, someone posted a link to the page on the GT site

    EDIT: Here's the link
    http://www.gtbicycles.com/int/eng/Pr...ard-Tail/#5847

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    weight?

    I dont find the weight on the GT website reference, anyone have any info from other sources?

    I was planning to get a Spe. Stumpjumper Comp 29er, this bike looks like a better deal at least on paper. Or am I overlooking something?

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    A lot of bike companies don't list weights for their bikes. Those that do list them are usually wrong, sometimes by a lot. Sometimes they weigh the smallest size, without pedals, or sometimes I think they just make stuff up.

    I think we have a 9r Elite at work. Unless we sold it, I'll try to weigh it today and let you guys know.

    Oh, and the Stumpy is a full-susser, so a more adequate comparison would be with the Marathon 9r.

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    Thanks Nato. If you can weight the GT that would be great, I am hoping it would be within a pound or 2 of the Spez'd. There are no Performance Bike stores her locally, and I dont want to spend $2K to find out I bought a porker of a bike!

    The Comp 29er is a HT (1 level down from the Marathon 29er), it is supposed to be just under 27 lbs.

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    The Zaskar 9r Elite is a hair under 30 pounds, size medium, with pedals. - $1500
    The Marathon 9r, is a hair over 31 pounds, size Large, with pedals. - $2400

    I would suspect the Zaskar Pro would be quite a bit lighter.

    Felt makes some really, really nice 29ers. I would check those out too.

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    got one

    Thanks Nato, PB had an additional 10% off promo on Monday, so I went ahead and ordered the Pro 9r. Expected delivery date of 5/4

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    I'm curious what you paid for the Z Pro 29r. PB has it in the their "Get Out & Ride" sale for $1999.00. Did you get that price plus another 10%? My local PB won't honor the 10% card because they said the Pro was already on sale.
    Thks, Ed

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    Which Performance was that? I work at the one in Boulder, and we always price match the website. We price match other people's websites, so I don't know why they wouldn't do that.

    It sounds fishy to me. They probably just didn't want to deal with their district manager. Every price match has to be run by the DM after we complete the transaction.

    I would complain. "Customer Service issue" is what it's called, and PerfCo has "100% satisfaction guaranteed."

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    Thanks for the info. I'm in Texas and the shop I was in said the Pro list price was $2499. It has a 15% off tag on all 09 GT's. That would make the price $2124.15. Now here's where it get sticky.... The Platinum Series flyer that is in the stores and I received a copy in the mail, has the Pro for $1999.99. And in the mail yesterday I got a 10% discount card for all total purchases. There's no question about honoring the Platinum Series price of $1999, it's can I use the 10% card on top of that price. I should have bought the damm thing on the 4/5th for $1999 and receive the double points, ie $400 in team points. I've purchased three bikes in the last 14 month from PB for over $4000+, not to mention all the accessories. No more! Their marketing and pricing leaves a lot to be desired. Constantly marking items down, only to mark them up so to mark them down again... However, thanks for your help. Sounds like things a different in CO.

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    Ask to talk to their district manager. It's not right for them to do that, and Perf shouldn't be any different in TX than in CO. If you're calm and polite, I bet they'd help you out. If you're angry and loud, they'll definitely help you out.

    I like a lot of things about PerfCo, but I hate their pricing structure. It's pretty lame, marking up, marking down. But their customer satisfaction policy is awesome.

    I love that I don't have to care if customers get upset, in a good way. If they're not happy, I can do a lot of things to fix it that I couldn't do at smaller shops. I can give them their money back, I can exchange their product, etc. They're the extreme example of "the customer is always right"

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    I didn't mean to turn this into a PB Company thread, but I do appreciate your time and input. I have two PB shops in my city. One is within two miles of my house, where I buy my bikes, etc. The other is about twenty five miles away. The two stores price items differently. I travel the city everyday and I'll stop; when time permits, at the in town store just to checkout some bike porn... If I find something I need, I may go to my closer store. But, I have to explain the price difference, etc. My issue is not with the stores, it's PB corporate. How about this, I was considering the Z Pro 29er and the Z Elite 29er. If I want to see or test ride one of the bikes, I have to drive 50+ miles round trip. It appears the store near me doesn't qualify to have these bikes in their store. I guess their sales aren't enough to justify two more display bikes in a city of five million plus. Just more corporate SB! I'm sure if I make my case, I could get the discount price. But, I don't feel it should be necessary since I've been calm and polite and have already spent $4000+ with PB. Again, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sz20DF
    I'm curious what you paid for the Z Pro 29r. PB has it in the their "Get Out & Ride" sale for $1999.00. Did you get that price plus another 10%? My local PB won't honor the 10% card because they said the Pro was already on sale.
    Thks, Ed
    Hi Ed:
    I bought mine from the website, punched in the promo code during checkout and they gave me another 10% off for a total of $1799.

    tm

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    I'd love to see some pics when you get it built up. They look like awesome bikes

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    I'm really interested in this bike. The parts look great for the price. I have a Kona Kula 2.9er right now. But it weights just as much as the Gt Zaskar Elite 9er. I wannna either upgrade it to pretty much what the Zaskar Pro 9er has (XT parts and Fox fork) or sell it and get the Zaskar Pro 9er. I know the Kona Kula fits me. I am 5"7'. I don't know how it fits and I don't have a performance store around me. Also the frame of the Kona is Scandium and I was wondering how it would compare the Zaskar of Hydroformed Kinesis?


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    The Scandium frame is probably lighter. If it fits you well, I'd stick with it. Unless you really just want a new bike. I think Scandium rides a littler nicer than other aluminum alloys.

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    thanks for your response. If I swap out the rock shox tora 80 mm for a fox f29 80 mm, do you think it would change the geometry of the bike or should I stay with a rock shox but a better model than the tora?

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    The geometry shouldn't change a whole lot, if at all. The axle-to-crown length is the important thing. I would guess they're within 5mm of each other.

    +25mm on the fork = -1 degree of headtube angle. So if you want the front end up a little higher and the head angle a little bit shallower, you could throw a 100mm fork on there.

    The Rebas are OK forks. I'm a big fan of the Manitou Minute 29er, if you want a cheaper/lighter fork than the Fox. Performance is about half-way between the rock shox and the fox, but you can find some on clearance for under $400 from pricepoint, jenson, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoRickGo
    thanks for your response. If I swap out the rock shox tora 80 mm for a fox f29 80 mm, do you think it would change the geometry of the bike or should I stay with a rock shox but a better model than the tora?

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    I might be interested in that Tora if you decide to swap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sz20DF
    Thanks for the info. I'm in Texas and the shop I was in said the Pro list price was $2499. It has a 15% off tag on all 09 GT's. That would make the price $2124.15. Now here's where it get sticky.... The Platinum Series flyer that is in the stores and I received a copy in the mail, has the Pro for $1999.99. And in the mail yesterday I got a 10% discount card for all total purchases. There's no question about honoring the Platinum Series price of $1999, it's can I use the 10% card on top of that price. I should have bought the damm thing on the 4/5th for $1999 and receive the double points, ie $400 in team points. I've purchased three bikes in the last 14 month from PB for over $4000+, not to mention all the accessories. No more! Their marketing and pricing leaves a lot to be desired. Constantly marking items down, only to mark them up so to mark them down again... However, thanks for your help. Sounds like things a different in CO.
    If that's the case just forget those guys and go online.

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    If I put on a Fox F29 100mm, what differences would I feel in the bike?? I guess I could buy it and put it on and if I don't like it I could bring it down to 80mm with spacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoRickGo
    If I put on a Fox F29 100mm, what differences would I feel in the bike?? I guess I could buy it and put it on and if I don't like it I could bring it down to 80mm with spacers.

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    uhhh, the gtbicycles website says the bike comes with a Fox F29 100mm fork.

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    i was refering to my Kona Kula 29er. It has a rockshox tora 80 mm that weighs nearly 6 lbs ( I believe). I wanna upgrade it to a fox but wanted to try a 100 mm instead of 80. Just wanted to know if I would notice a difference.

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    the head angle will be about 1 degree slacker with a longer fork.
    If you frame has a 72 or 71 degree head angle to start with, you'll probably like the new angle.

    I'm not sure how the travel spacers work, but I imagine they just put a bumper on the bottom of the stanchions so you can't bottom the fork out. So you'd lose travel off the bottom of the stroke, not the top. So the axle-to-crown length would be the same. Not worth it to change the travel, IMO.

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    Zaskar 9r

    Wow I got stay in touch, I will ask the IBD folks if they know about the weight of the 9r bikes. I do know that Performance has purchased these from the European GT market. I am told that they will be available in U.S. shops next year.

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