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    GT Zaskar Pro/Elite 9r (29"er)

    I understand the Zaskar 9r Pro and Elite models are out and are being offered only though one outlet. Their website mention everything about the bikes but nothing on geometry or weight. The bikes are an exclusive offering for one dealer so the GT website isn't any help. If anyone can shed some light on these bikes I would appreciate hearing details. Thanks, Ed

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    Check the 29er forum, someone posted a link to the page on the GT site

    EDIT: Here's the link
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    weight?

    I dont find the weight on the GT website reference, anyone have any info from other sources?

    I was planning to get a Spe. Stumpjumper Comp 29er, this bike looks like a better deal at least on paper. Or am I overlooking something?

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    A lot of bike companies don't list weights for their bikes. Those that do list them are usually wrong, sometimes by a lot. Sometimes they weigh the smallest size, without pedals, or sometimes I think they just make stuff up.

    I think we have a 9r Elite at work. Unless we sold it, I'll try to weigh it today and let you guys know.

    Oh, and the Stumpy is a full-susser, so a more adequate comparison would be with the Marathon 9r.

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    Thanks Nato. If you can weight the GT that would be great, I am hoping it would be within a pound or 2 of the Spez'd. There are no Performance Bike stores her locally, and I dont want to spend $2K to find out I bought a porker of a bike!

    The Comp 29er is a HT (1 level down from the Marathon 29er), it is supposed to be just under 27 lbs.

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    The Zaskar 9r Elite is a hair under 30 pounds, size medium, with pedals. - $1500
    The Marathon 9r, is a hair over 31 pounds, size Large, with pedals. - $2400

    I would suspect the Zaskar Pro would be quite a bit lighter.

    Felt makes some really, really nice 29ers. I would check those out too.

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    got one

    Thanks Nato, PB had an additional 10% off promo on Monday, so I went ahead and ordered the Pro 9r. Expected delivery date of 5/4

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    I'm curious what you paid for the Z Pro 29r. PB has it in the their "Get Out & Ride" sale for $1999.00. Did you get that price plus another 10%? My local PB won't honor the 10% card because they said the Pro was already on sale.
    Thks, Ed

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    Which Performance was that? I work at the one in Boulder, and we always price match the website. We price match other people's websites, so I don't know why they wouldn't do that.

    It sounds fishy to me. They probably just didn't want to deal with their district manager. Every price match has to be run by the DM after we complete the transaction.

    I would complain. "Customer Service issue" is what it's called, and PerfCo has "100% satisfaction guaranteed."

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    Thanks for the info. I'm in Texas and the shop I was in said the Pro list price was $2499. It has a 15% off tag on all 09 GT's. That would make the price $2124.15. Now here's where it get sticky.... The Platinum Series flyer that is in the stores and I received a copy in the mail, has the Pro for $1999.99. And in the mail yesterday I got a 10% discount card for all total purchases. There's no question about honoring the Platinum Series price of $1999, it's can I use the 10% card on top of that price. I should have bought the damm thing on the 4/5th for $1999 and receive the double points, ie $400 in team points. I've purchased three bikes in the last 14 month from PB for over $4000+, not to mention all the accessories. No more! Their marketing and pricing leaves a lot to be desired. Constantly marking items down, only to mark them up so to mark them down again... However, thanks for your help. Sounds like things a different in CO.

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    Ask to talk to their district manager. It's not right for them to do that, and Perf shouldn't be any different in TX than in CO. If you're calm and polite, I bet they'd help you out. If you're angry and loud, they'll definitely help you out.

    I like a lot of things about PerfCo, but I hate their pricing structure. It's pretty lame, marking up, marking down. But their customer satisfaction policy is awesome.

    I love that I don't have to care if customers get upset, in a good way. If they're not happy, I can do a lot of things to fix it that I couldn't do at smaller shops. I can give them their money back, I can exchange their product, etc. They're the extreme example of "the customer is always right"

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    I didn't mean to turn this into a PB Company thread, but I do appreciate your time and input. I have two PB shops in my city. One is within two miles of my house, where I buy my bikes, etc. The other is about twenty five miles away. The two stores price items differently. I travel the city everyday and I'll stop; when time permits, at the in town store just to checkout some bike porn... If I find something I need, I may go to my closer store. But, I have to explain the price difference, etc. My issue is not with the stores, it's PB corporate. How about this, I was considering the Z Pro 29er and the Z Elite 29er. If I want to see or test ride one of the bikes, I have to drive 50+ miles round trip. It appears the store near me doesn't qualify to have these bikes in their store. I guess their sales aren't enough to justify two more display bikes in a city of five million plus. Just more corporate SB! I'm sure if I make my case, I could get the discount price. But, I don't feel it should be necessary since I've been calm and polite and have already spent $4000+ with PB. Again, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sz20DF
    I'm curious what you paid for the Z Pro 29r. PB has it in the their "Get Out & Ride" sale for $1999.00. Did you get that price plus another 10%? My local PB won't honor the 10% card because they said the Pro was already on sale.
    Thks, Ed
    Hi Ed:
    I bought mine from the website, punched in the promo code during checkout and they gave me another 10% off for a total of $1799.

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    I'd love to see some pics when you get it built up. They look like awesome bikes

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    I'm really interested in this bike. The parts look great for the price. I have a Kona Kula 2.9er right now. But it weights just as much as the Gt Zaskar Elite 9er. I wannna either upgrade it to pretty much what the Zaskar Pro 9er has (XT parts and Fox fork) or sell it and get the Zaskar Pro 9er. I know the Kona Kula fits me. I am 5"7'. I don't know how it fits and I don't have a performance store around me. Also the frame of the Kona is Scandium and I was wondering how it would compare the Zaskar of Hydroformed Kinesis?


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    The Scandium frame is probably lighter. If it fits you well, I'd stick with it. Unless you really just want a new bike. I think Scandium rides a littler nicer than other aluminum alloys.

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    thanks for your response. If I swap out the rock shox tora 80 mm for a fox f29 80 mm, do you think it would change the geometry of the bike or should I stay with a rock shox but a better model than the tora?

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    The geometry shouldn't change a whole lot, if at all. The axle-to-crown length is the important thing. I would guess they're within 5mm of each other.

    +25mm on the fork = -1 degree of headtube angle. So if you want the front end up a little higher and the head angle a little bit shallower, you could throw a 100mm fork on there.

    The Rebas are OK forks. I'm a big fan of the Manitou Minute 29er, if you want a cheaper/lighter fork than the Fox. Performance is about half-way between the rock shox and the fox, but you can find some on clearance for under $400 from pricepoint, jenson, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoRickGo
    thanks for your response. If I swap out the rock shox tora 80 mm for a fox f29 80 mm, do you think it would change the geometry of the bike or should I stay with a rock shox but a better model than the tora?

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    I might be interested in that Tora if you decide to swap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sz20DF
    Thanks for the info. I'm in Texas and the shop I was in said the Pro list price was $2499. It has a 15% off tag on all 09 GT's. That would make the price $2124.15. Now here's where it get sticky.... The Platinum Series flyer that is in the stores and I received a copy in the mail, has the Pro for $1999.99. And in the mail yesterday I got a 10% discount card for all total purchases. There's no question about honoring the Platinum Series price of $1999, it's can I use the 10% card on top of that price. I should have bought the damm thing on the 4/5th for $1999 and receive the double points, ie $400 in team points. I've purchased three bikes in the last 14 month from PB for over $4000+, not to mention all the accessories. No more! Their marketing and pricing leaves a lot to be desired. Constantly marking items down, only to mark them up so to mark them down again... However, thanks for your help. Sounds like things a different in CO.
    If that's the case just forget those guys and go online.

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    If I put on a Fox F29 100mm, what differences would I feel in the bike?? I guess I could buy it and put it on and if I don't like it I could bring it down to 80mm with spacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoRickGo
    If I put on a Fox F29 100mm, what differences would I feel in the bike?? I guess I could buy it and put it on and if I don't like it I could bring it down to 80mm with spacers.

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    uhhh, the gtbicycles website says the bike comes with a Fox F29 100mm fork.

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    i was refering to my Kona Kula 29er. It has a rockshox tora 80 mm that weighs nearly 6 lbs ( I believe). I wanna upgrade it to a fox but wanted to try a 100 mm instead of 80. Just wanted to know if I would notice a difference.

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    the head angle will be about 1 degree slacker with a longer fork.
    If you frame has a 72 or 71 degree head angle to start with, you'll probably like the new angle.

    I'm not sure how the travel spacers work, but I imagine they just put a bumper on the bottom of the stanchions so you can't bottom the fork out. So you'd lose travel off the bottom of the stroke, not the top. So the axle-to-crown length would be the same. Not worth it to change the travel, IMO.

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    Zaskar 9r

    Wow I got stay in touch, I will ask the IBD folks if they know about the weight of the 9r bikes. I do know that Performance has purchased these from the European GT market. I am told that they will be available in U.S. shops next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoRickGo
    i was refering to my Kona Kula 29er. It has a rockshox tora 80 mm that weighs nearly 6 lbs ( I believe). I wanna upgrade it to a fox but wanted to try a 100 mm instead of 80. Just wanted to know if I would notice a difference.
    Sorry, I was reading your question out of context!.

    I will post pictures and weight once the bike is in my possession.

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    Not sure if it helps, but I bought a 26" Zaskar Elite from Pb and it weighs 28.2 lbs on my bathroom scale. That is with a set of flat pedals I put on instead of the clipless that came on it.

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    One of these days I'm gonna get me one. I just love the way it looks with the white frame and the blue accents. Now if Crankbrothers made those Cobalt blue wheels in 9er size.......I can only dream of the possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gt jorgito
    One of these days I'm gonna get me one. I just love the way it looks with the white frame and the blue accents. Now if Crankbrothers made those Cobalt blue wheels in 9er size.......I can only dream of the possibilities.
    I wish they made the 26" bike in those colors, then my 2 bikes would match. Here is my "other" bike.

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    Here we go, Zaskar 9er was the importers sample bike for here in NZ, don't what model it would be, but was full xt spec, I have changed shifters and rear mech to xtr and tyres to crossmarks, weight is 26lbs, for a medium, I have run it single speed (magic ratio 32-18 with half link) with xtr cranks and american classic wheels, came in at just over 22lbs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mamoi
    Here we go, Zaskar 9er was the importers sample bike for here in NZ, don't what model it would be, but was full xt spec, I have changed shifters and rear mech to xtr and tyres to crossmarks, weight is 26lbs, for a medium, I have run it single speed (magic ratio 32-18 with half link) with xtr cranks and american classic wheels, came in at just over 22lbs.
    Thanks for posting the pictures and weights. Your bike looks really sharp,especially as a SS. I cant wait for mine to arrive. What do you have in the water bottle cage? is it a battery of some sort?

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    My experience with the wrench's and salesbro's at Perf. have been great, although I have not bought a bike there... just some stuff like a maintenance stand. (actually, I bought a commuter bike from Perf, which was an online price match not available in store, but then ended up not liking the bike that showed up, and they took it back no questions asked, no bad vibe .... really cool). They will match the online price, then build the bike, too, which is a great value. Just wanted to weigh in with my $0.02 on Perf. experience.

    Question for anyone on the Zaskar 29r Pro bike: THe web pages from the retailer and from GT state 2.35 tires.... but this is a mistake, right? There is no such thing as a 29X2.35 Nevegal.... just 29X2.2 (which I ride on my FS 29r). I am wondering about rear tire clearance.... can this bike actually clear a 2.35? It would be sweet to get some Conti MK 2.4's in there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott In MD
    Question for anyone on the Zaskar 29r Pro bike: THe web pages from the retailer and from GT state 2.35 tires.... but this is a mistake, right? There is no such thing as a 29X2.35 Nevegal.... just 29X2.2 (which I ride on my FS 29r). I am wondering about rear tire clearance.... can this bike actually clear a 2.35? It would be sweet to get some Conti MK 2.4's in there....
    Hey, I have 2.1 Maxxis crossmarks on mine with about 10mm clearance on the chain and seat stays, so I would have to say no on the 2.35's and def not on 2.4 conti's.

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    ...that's worth a thousand words, mamoi... thanks.

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    What XT hubs does the Zaska 29er pro come with?

    Quote Originally Posted by mamoi
    Hey, I have 2.1 Maxxis crossmarks on mine with about 10mm clearance on the chain and seat stays, so I would have to say no on the 2.35's and def not on 2.4 conti's.

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    Are those the new 36pt of engagement new XT hubs? That is the last thing I need to know before pulling the trigger on this bike.

    i was between the Specialized marathon, Fisher Paragon, and EMD, and then I found this GT Zaskar - Wow, i am in love...
    Sit and spin my ass...

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    I picked up my Zasker Pro 9r this past Sunday.

    I've only ridden it around the woods in my backyard - need to go for a proper ride in my local trails.

    I can confirm that my medium sized bike weights 26lbs using the bathroom scales - this is with the pedals on.

    The fit and finish is very high, the decals are clear coated.
    The bike looks much better in person. One thing that you cant tell from the photos, is that the down tube is triangulated (see picture).

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    I find it funny that they proudly stamp this on the head tube next to the GT symbols...
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    and try to hide this down by the front deraileur....
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    (not hating, just saying).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamoi
    Here we go, Zaskar 9er was the importers sample bike for here in NZ, don't what model it would be, but was full xt spec, I have changed shifters and rear mech to xtr and tyres to crossmarks, weight is 26lbs, for a medium, I have run it single speed (magic ratio 32-18 with half link) with xtr cranks and american classic wheels, came in at just over 22lbs.


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    Mamoi,

    I can't tell from the picture of the SS conversion, but where's the chain tensioner? I'm thinking of doing this to a multi Peace 9r. Thanks, Ed

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    I just got an 09 GT Zaskar Elite in a 26, (first bike) I was looking at full suspension but this was a lot more fun, and it only weighs 26 lbs, which isn't bad and comes with some nice components.

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    Hello All.

    Just pulled the trigger on one of these has not even made it my door yet. I have been looking for a high end MTB (and I figured why not a 29er) for awhile really just to treat myself because I think should.

    I cant wait to get it out on a nice long ride and while not a WW it should be lighter then my current MTB, which I still plan to keep for now as well, looking forward to giving some ride reports and comparisons.

    Any good suggestions on getting this bike setup, already went to Fos site and looked hoe to correctly set SAG on fork, will have to see if I need an air shock pump. Never dealt with an Ari Fork before doesnt look hard though.
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    New purchase

    Congratulations HEM. Please post you impressions of the bike. I am anxious to learn more about the Zaskar Pro 9er. Also, did you find a medium?

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    I will post more when I have a chance after a couple of rides. I went with a small I am only 5'7, I pay more attention to Eff Top Tube on the geometry but also realy liked that the standover height on this bike looked really good compared to other 29ers I looked into.
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    First Ride Report and other info

    Toook my first ride on this bike today, took a while due to my schedule and the fact the bike was shipped a deffective rear caliper, not exactly waht you expect for a bike this high end from a place like perfromace. I had it shipped directly to me and when I ot it rrealized rear brake was not bled, tried it myself and could not get so eventually took the hour+ drive to a performance store, they were really helpful at the store and got it all straightend out.

    Anyway the ride was combined on road off road about 10 miles hour long. Mileage was split about 50/50. On raod is best described as rolling hills in a rural area and the off road is a newer rail to trail that gives you a good workout because of the deep gravel on the trail and it is newer so it has not compacted yet.

    Some genral notes about the bike based on this. Overall I really like the bike XT componrnts especailly the crank are just smooth compared to my Deore equipped bike and worth every penny. If you ignore the weight and aero feels like a road bike. The fox fork is amazing as well. I got the SAg set but havent mesed with rebound yet and it really smotthed things out like night and day compared to my dart fork. The fizik Gobi is nice as well but will need to get longer rides to really rate it. The bike overall feels like the geommetry is good for me but I need to get used to the upright riding position having mostly done road miles lately and my 26" bike is a GF and has longer eff top tube. The 29 inch wheels feel fast but based on time were not all that fast. I only did one off road climb and it seemed to help with ruts and roots. I need to get on some single track to comment on handling but I think it will be fine. I need to continue to fine tune my riding postion and then get some miles under the nevegals. If I switch out tires I will try Geax Saguro which would knock a good bit off the rotating mass and might makle me slightly faster (in feel at least). Thining going to the 29er was an excellent choice.

    I will try to post again when I get multiple rides under me.
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    Guys,

    I found on the web an online shop. They sell this bike for incredible : 873 USD price. Do you think it's possible? can I trust in such a shop? What you think?
    http://www.yopisuyudi.com/products/G...Exclusive.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by freezombi
    Guys,

    I found on the web an online shop. They sell this bike for incredible : 873 USD price. Do you think it's possible? can I trust in such a shop? What you think?
    http://www.yopisuyudi.com/products/G...Exclusive.html
    Check them out on BBB I would say or see if there are any ratings on them anywhere else.

    http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...00_20000_54003
    I see it here for $1800 which I think is a good deal.

    pink

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    Freezombi: the bikes apparently ship from Indonesia and to Indiana was $129. Their web site is hosted in Dallas, TX. The registrant search was protected by "Privacy Protect. ORG" and the contact info was: contact@privacyprotect.org

    I would be very suspicious.

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    thx

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    I also just noticed that you can get to the checkout without it ever asking what size bike you want!!!

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    if Perfromance has you size pick it up. These are mainstream for 2010 and selling for 2700 now.
    XC, Road, XXC, Endurance, Mtn, All-Mtn, Cross, Gravel, just go have fun on 2 wheels!

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    I've been looking at a 29er for over a year and wanted one of these. The performance bike shops near my house in Austin never had a 9er in my size, but I was up in NC on business and found one at the Cary PB. I bought it for $1860 including tearing in down and shipping it to Austin. Really looking forward to riding my 3rd GT.

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    Got my bike, its very nice but they say it does not come with the fox shock pump or a fox manual for the shock. Is that true? Can someone else that bought a Pro 29er confirm that?

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