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    GT LTS-1 Time to clean it up - help a guy out...

    folks I came across a GT LTS-1 not long ago with hopes to revamp it. Something about the bike had me drawn to it... so I want to make it nice and have it stand out. Hope you smart guys can get me pointed to the right things..

    Over all its nice and tight, I do need a few things and have started looking.

    So far I have ordered a new old stock sticker kit (red letter instead of yellow) thinking of adding more red to it as I bring it back to life.

    Also ordered a bushing kit (for now - BETD soon) but I need to know if it will fit.. the kit I got off ebay says 1997... will it work? See pics.

    I need new tires... can you folks recommend some... looking to add some red to the bike... red and yellow would be cool.

    Notice the damaged bottom bushing... its not as bad as it looks, but its not right.
    Pics are coming... this is all I have for now...

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    Red tires are for kids bikes. For parts that actually require performance (like tires) color should be your last consideration.
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    Yup, I'm ok with that... I guess to be clear I was just looking for some feedback on any tire for me to look for... Not looking for a red tire... just meant that if it had some red on it that it would be cool.

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    You could always do red rims, that'd be punchy. Last red tires I can think of were the Panaracer Fire tires...not good.
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    what is a good brand tire that works well... Any recommendations... all black is fine as well... I am not a super hard core rider, just trails with the kids these days... Agn, I am just looking to revive this bike... I like it, and love to tinker with things... I would love to make it new agn is all.

    How about the MAXXIS... I haven't been into these for a long time... looking for help is all so I don't buy junk.

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    panaracer smokes

    and get a decent seat
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    Good luck with restoration. This is a good tire that has lots of red in it.

    Type in google panaracer fire xc pro red.
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    Thanks for the tire recommendation... On my list. Nice of you to point it out. I ended up going with the same yellow decals I figured I might as well try to get it back to original. He had the full kit minus the lts-1 for the upper bar... You folks know where I can score those? Also can someone educate me as to what each bushing area is called? I want to replace the bushing for the rear triangle near the cranks (bottom pivot ). I want to do the bearings but need to save up, looking for a spare off someone till then... Or I will just hold off till I can replace. You can see above it has a notch in the bushing... Looks jacked.

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    Is this a good one, seems like it would be good to have a folding tire so you can have extra on the trail...

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    You wouldn't carry an extra tire with you while riding, extra tube is all you need. The "folding tire" description tells you that the bead is likely kevlar or something other than wire bead. Wire bead is less desireable due to weight. I buy whatever is on sale myself.

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    Yes that is a good tire, depending on where you ride. If you mainly ride on the road there is better ones.

    If you see some dirt, it will treat you well.
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    Thanks guys... This gives me a few things to work on for now... I will post pics as I go...

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    Anyone know of a diagram for a 1996 GT LTS so I can see what the pivot points look like? I am wondering if the bottom has the cone shaped bushings or the tube like bushing.

    I want to replace it - even though I am going to order the BETD kit... I want backups of whatever I can find.

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    this one tells you which bearings are which... by havinf the kits, front linkage, rear linkage, main bearing and horst link bearing.

    GT Lts and Sts spares : Mountain bikes and componets by BETD Goldtec

    you should be able to figure it out from that msaybe.
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    Thanks... I have plenty to do and order... I hope some of those bushing work I got off eBay... I plan to order the BETF main bearing kit for starters... then add as I go. I have the decal kit on the way (original New Old Stock) - Still need to find the LTS-1 sticker... Once I get some work done I will post pics...

    thanks for everyone's help.

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    There's an adapter kit that is available on ebay (I think, $27) that requires you to drill two holes in the rear dropout, so that this disc-brake plate will give you DISC brakes for your LTS. And of course, you'll have to have a front shock that will allow disc as well, and then upgrade your wheelset. But that is about all it takes to make this into a first-class mtb. The rear swingarm dynamics are truely adjustable and eliminates chain-tension problems. There's a tutorial on You-Tube that is a great piece of knowledge regarding all your adjustments to suspension. Congrats~~!.... I'm looking for one TOO~!

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    Hey man... Thanks for this info!!! I will look into this, is it the a-z bracket? Too bad someone out there isn't able to weld on a caliper bracket...

    nice of you to let me know how to upgrade the brakes... that will also go on my list.

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    I don't understand, the guy has said a couple of times he wants to try to get it somewhere near original and only want to ride easy stuff and you're telling him to drill holes in it and go through all the hoops to get discs on there? Not that it can't work I'm sure there have been a few done.
    As to welding on a tab, the stays are beefy, but who knows how much force they can take, I think there were some later ones wit the tabs on already, but then they may have also beefed up the stay (or not). Usually when peopel do it they put in an extra brace between the stays...of course that won't work on a linkage FS bike/.

    Anyway to the OP hopefully you can sort out the bushings OK, get out the metal polish and give it a good going over, it'll come up all shinney.
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    Thanks... I don't want to do any damage... sounds like I need to read up... This is the second bike I have that I restored... First was a road bike. Not 100% original but close... I'm ok with doing things that make sense when cleaning these things up (like the BETD kits) but yeah over all I like it to be original... Please keep throwing me ideas... I haven't worked on bikes in a while... trying to build up parts and get tools so I can tinker on the side... I don't know much about these FS bikes... but for some reason this one caught my attention. I want it to end up nice.

    thanks agn for your help.
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    OK, I decided to get a head start today... decals showed up... they look nice. I took off the crank arms and wheels to get a look at that bottom pivot... its junk, part of the bushing fell off while pulling it out. So now I need to order the BETD bottom main kit I guess... since I cant find just the one part.

    Also there is some nasty chain rub on the bottom chain stay... Guess I will file it over a tad so its flat but I cant flatten it out, I'm afraid to remove too much metal. I will be looking for a clean replacement for the bikes future.

    All the other bushings are actually nice and snug... but I will replace what ever I can when the kit shows up.

    I also scored some ROCKSHOX Judy XC replacement stickers (on the way).

    thought ideas?
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    Being yellow, those judys should be SL's not XC's... XC's were silvery colour, but who knows what they did with OEM
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    Thanks for that... Good thing the decal kit comes with XC and SL... I will do some research on that... Tomorrow I plan to start polishing while I wait for the bushings... If I can't find a replacement for the main pivot, I will need to order the BETD set. Even if I do get the. B eTD set I want the original as a fall back. More pics when I have something interesting to show.

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    SL would have titanium bits on them, brake studs and things, you'd ahve to look up the specs to check.
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    disc brakes again

    Just for your consideration... (about the brake upgrade possibility). You both have a legititemate point about "maintaining the purity" of the original bike. And if the holes to be drilled for the disc-bracket were big, I'd worry about weakening the dropout. I'd personally drill AND use super-adhesive, so the bracket adds to the overall strength. But for me, the advantages of discs, outweigh any disadvantages. I've had rims blow out from V-brake wear, which gradually eats away at the sidewalls of your wheelset. This will never happen with disc brakes. Also, if you take a hit on the trails and nudge your rims out've true, you are somewhat screwed with V-brakes (as to their functionality), but disc brakes are not affected by wheel-trueness. The difference in performance between disc and V-brakes is amazing too. Something like the Avid BB-7 is plenty durable, adjustable, easy to maintain and besides, who needs something so powerful, it just puts you over the handlebars or breaks traction in your tires? Once you've gotten used to disc, it's hard to go back to rimbrakes and I suppose alot've people would love this bike, except that they never had disc-frames. It sure is a tastey piece of technology for it's day. I'm not necessarily "recommending" that you upgrade....just putting all the information in front of you, so you can best decide. Thanks for listening.
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    all good points, I agree with your thoughts... I plan to research more... who knows what I will do, all depends on what parts I need and how the bike turns out. I want it to be close to original on the outside, but upgrade what is not available anymore or fix some flaws that make sense (like BETD kits)... will see... this frame is not 100% perfect, which is a bummer... 1 or 2 small dings, and the chain stay has rub one it... same for the normal cable rub areas... I will polish it up and see what it looks like after and decide from there.

    never the less thanks for your thoughts... I hope more folks voice an opinion.. helps me decide on what to do.

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    I'm just jealous and can't wait to find MY LTS. I hope you get back to us with pics of your completed project. Wish you best luck in the garage and on the trails. Cheers, mate~!

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    well I tried to polish up the chainstay... I am afraid to get to nutty with it because I may not find a replacement... so I decided to polish it and put the decal on and keep it as is till I find a better replacement (I want one with no rub - if it exists). I ended up placing the cut off part over the rub (out of site out of mind right)... I will also get a lizard skin protector as well, I want to protect the chainstay, in fear that I will not get another.

    More to follow as I have time and parts...


    This art is actually much cleaner... looks like my grubby hand prints smudged it up... but its not ad for the age.
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    Update:
    The bushing kit showed up... All I can use is the horst link bushings, and the bottom pivot bushing (which is broken) - So I will post a 1997-1998 bushing kit in the classifieds...


    Or better yet I will hang on to them for the chance that someone needs a hand.
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    haha, yeah didn't think a 97+ would fit due to the different linkage design.

    You should be able to get new chainstays...but it will involve getting an other frame... as with the linkage, I'm not sure haw many parts are interchangable with the later models/and/or with different models. You will often find broken front triangle STS's for sale cheap, would think the chainstay would fit (probably).

    As for discs, all good and valid points. I seem to remember that LTS' liked breaking in the middle of the seatstay, not saying its true, but might be something to look into before putting them on.
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    ok, so I put it back together till I can get the lower pivot from BETD... I need odds and ends still too... Plus I don't like the seat post (I think I have the original - looking)... but I thought I would show how the stickers turned out... I did not put the warning stickers on but put the others on... I have a guy that says he can make the LTS-1 sticker so I will work on that too... I did some polish... but its aggravating me to be honest... it looks better but I need to get over trying to make it look new...

    More when I have parts and time..

    Needs:
    Tires
    Brake Pads
    Cables
    Seat Post
    Lower Pivot (betd)
    Velox Rim Tape
    still looking, I bet I find more...
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    Nice seat... added to the list for sure... thanks...

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    also while that seatpost might not be the best colour for the bike, it is an AWESOME one. they weigh nothing, are as cool as they get. I had the manitou version and if it hadn't been in the wonky 31.8 manitou size I'd still be using it now in my zaskar.

    So IMO, seat should go, but post should stay. (of course if you find the seat amazingly comfy, well thats a delema, but that seat needs to be on a $50 hybrid, not a top end GT)
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    yeah, polishing sucks. You start off and its all oooh look at that, but you get over it real fast, expecially when getting to fiddly bits.
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    I noticed I have a MAVIC 217 in the front and a MAVIC 517 in the rear (does that sound right?) Also what size tire do I want to get? Trying to get my list sorted out is all...


    Good point on the post... its crazy light, and I did find original and its 3 times as heavy...

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    217 was spec, rear has probably been rebuilt at some point.
    Tyres, all personal preference really, I run smokes, but anything that isn't tubeless and floats your boat really. You may have to check that the wide tyres of today will fit, but anything 1.95-2.1 should be fine.
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    well the guy that was going to make the LTS-1 stickers decided it wasn't worth his time, unless I wanted to pay for a full kit... I will keep looking.

    I am thinking of getting the red panaracers so they tie in the seat post and pedals... at least there will be some coordination there, or I may just get yellow and add more red else where... Heck I guess if I dont like it I can replace with whatever next time. I am on hold for anything new till I can pay for the bottom BETD pivot kit...

    You think that will work? Or should I just go all black.
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    OK, I cant decide on tire and I know color on a tire is not something most are into... so black it is... I can try color some other time If I want... Will order this weekend, found the panaracer XC pro in black for 24.00 each - seems cheap...

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    My tires should be here Friday sometime (I ordered the all black). I will order the BETD kit on Friday (still looking for a spacer to replace the one I have for backup - thinking of just getting them made).

    Anyone want to trade me a black seat post for my red one?
    ringle moby (pretty light) I like the red but it doesn't fit the color of the bike is all.

    I may just replace it.. and keep it in a box for the next frame... I want one of the Thermoplast frames...

    anyway, I will hold off on posting till I get the BETD kit... will show what it looks like going in...

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    OK a few things done and more questions. I installed the BETD kit for the bottom, was pretty easy - straight forward. I did not need to press the bearings in they slid in quite tight but I was able to manage to push them in. I am not sure what I should torque the bolt to, and I wasn't 100% sure on the O-rings... I ended up putting one O-ring on each side of the bearing (like a dust seal) guess that's OK? The tiers are on as well... more pics of the bike together later on when I can get it out.
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    Also what shoes should I get?
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