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    GT Avalanche 2.0 questions

    I just ordered a new 2008 Avalanche 2.0 with Tektro Aguila Comp Hydraulic Disc brakes and was wondering if the disc were screwed onto the hub or held on by rivets? I put a Iron Horse Warrior 5.0 togeather for a friend and noted the Shimano Hydraulic brakes were not the greatest and the disc were rivited to the hubs? Also I ordred a size small as he's 5'4" and as near as I could tell the small was about a 16" frame. Looks like a very nice setup for the money and Performance Bikes have 10% off till tomorrow. Would be great to here from all who own one and how well you like the bike. My sons 15 so he'll be pretty surprise come birthday time in April.

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    There are 2 common methods of holding rotors to the hubs the Shimano "centerlock" system where the disks fit onto the hubs with the centerlock (very nice system!) or the more traditional system were the hub has 6 bolts and torx screws are holding the rotor to the hub. This really breaks down to 2 methods of putting the disk rotors onto the hubs. Both can be replaced when the rotors wear but these systems are not interchangeable. Check out shimano's site on Deore here http://bike.shimano.com/publish/cont...ain/deore.html both systems have advantages and disadvantages the bolt onto the hub system runs the risk of the disks getting loose if the bolts loosen.

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    Wow you bought the bike for your son 4 months in advance! I have a 2008 1.0 and it's been great so far. Firm, strong, sturdy ride. The saddle seems more comfy than my older 3.0 but I haven't gotten much ride time yet due to the weather/season. One minor (very minor) issue I have with the bike is that the water bottle cage mount (2 holes) is off center. It's just a little annoying to look down and see more of the right side of the bottle versus the left.

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    The bike will be sitting at my office until April. Guess I'll be taking my bike stand in t assemble. Hated to buy something without seeing it but based on what I've read I feel pretty comfortable.Anyhow Performance has a 100% Satisfaction Guarantee.

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    Yeah, performance has a good guarantee. If you don't fit well in the bike, they'll replace it with a larger one

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    Whats the word on the Kenda Nevegals on the bike? Are they standard set or a less expensive heavier OEM tire?? Not sure if they do such a thing but I noticed there were not many marking on the tires in the photo's?

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    Still not sure if they are of the same quality or a lessor expensive version the OEM are putting on? I have a pair of Negegal DTC on my F/S and these on the GT seem to be a lower budget and my guess is heavier version. In the auto world they put a cheaper version of the tires on. Wasn't sure if they did the same think in the bike world??

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    Hmm, this is the first I've heard about having two versions of the same tire with 1 version being a lower quality in both auto/biking world. I believe that would be illegal. They have to at least change the name of the tire or version. I haven't quite broken in my tires in yet, but so far so good. Very predictable, traction seems good so far on light sand and dirt.

    One issue with the bikes that I've bought from my performance bike is that they didn't tune the rear derailleur very well. Both bikes were ghost shifting back there and needed minor adjustments. I'm not sure if you knew but the bikes you buy from them comes with lifetime adjustments if you have any issues. My performance bike was kind of far so I made my own.

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    Well let me rephrase the tire issue. OEM auto tires come with less tread life than your off the shelf tires you purchase from a retailer. One way they cut cost in the auto industry. I know Kenda has several different models of the Nevegal so I'm assuming this is the cheaper heavier version? I run the DCT model and love them.

    As for the shifting issues I assumed I'd have some problems. I'm some distance to any of the stores so I'll be making all the adjustments. By the way were the hydraulic brakes already bled down and in order??

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    Brakes working perfectly, pads need to be worn in a little bit (obviously). I'm not too sure which version of the tires they are, I'm sure the manufacturer opted for the cheaper version though (at least that's what i would do if i was the manufacturer).

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    Bike arrives Wednesday so we'll get a good look at it. I wish I had spent the extra $100 and went with the 1.0 now. Just thinking down the road (a little late for that).

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    Does anyone know what the deal is with the two Avalanche 2.0's at Performance. I noticed they have the 2.0 with mechanical disc and one with hydraulic disc for the same price ($499). Did they cut back somewhere on the hydraulic version. The only thing I really noticed was the hydraulic version comes with a different crankset the M311 versus the M341 on the 2.0 with mecanical discs. Best I can tell is the M311 has riveted chainrings while the M341 comes with a crank with replaceable chainrings.

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    I think you still did better with the 2.0. The difference in price is more like $150 (I think the 1.0 is going for $649 versus $499 for the 2.0 at Performance). With the $150 you saved you can easily upgrade the front and rear deraillueur and the shifters. The only other real difference is the front shock, and I'm not sure if the Suntour X-100 is really that much better than the Suntour XCR-Lo. Does anyone have experience with these two entry level front forks.

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    The 1.0 was $599.

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    You also get 27 gears vs 24 if that matters though.

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    Was the $599 a pre-christmas sale price. Today when I checkedit was $649. Guess I should wait for the price to come down. I've been keeping my eye on the 1.0 and 2.0. BTW, what was the lowest folks have seen the 2.0 on sale for. Today it was $499.

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    Does anyone know what the deal is with the two Avalanche 2.0's at Performance. I noticed they have the 2.0 with mechanical disc and one with hydraulic disc for the same price ($499). Did they cut back somewhere on the hydraulic version. The only thing I really noticed was the hydraulic version comes with a different crankset the M311 versus the M341 on the 2.0 with mecanical discs. Best I can tell is the M311 has riveted chainrings while the M341 comes with a crank with replaceable chainrings.

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    When I placed the order for the 2.0 the 1.0 was at $599.00. I noted a few days ago they raised the price to $649.00 As for the two different versions of the 2.0 I went through the same thing. Spent the better part of a couple hours comparing parts and googling component's to see what the better value was. I decided the Hydraulic brakes made the better sense between the two. I also spent time on ebay on the derailleurs and found for about $40.00 I could upgrade the front and rear with XT's. I figured I'd have my son ride it for a while and we'll see if there's any issues and make the upgrades from there. To be honest I think I have just as much fun riding as I do tuning and upgrading. Allin all it seems like a very good value.

    Our other choice was the Iron Horse Warrior 5.0 at rscyles at $599 (now their offering 25% off that price). The downfall with that setup was the brakes and the fact the Tora fork only had rebound adjustment and no lockout. I think for the most part these lower end forks all do about the same think. Which means you get what you pay for. That said I will say I'm amazed at what you can buy now days for $500., Heck just a few years ago the same bike would cost a $1,000.

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    Tailwaters, did you do much research on the front forks that come on the 1.0 and 2.0. I noticed the 1.0 comes with the Suntour X-100 and the 2.0 comes with Suntour XCR-LO. Not sure if its worth paying the extra $100 for the X-100. Might be better pocketing the cash and buying a "good" front fork when the stock fork needs replacement.

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    It doesn't really look like they cut back on the hydraulic version. Seems like hydraulics would be the way to go? I was reading the discussion about AM bikes vs XC bikes. Which type of bikes do our GTs fit into?

    Oh one other difference, the 1.0 has clipless pedals as well.

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    The Avalanche is XC

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailwaters
    When I placed the order for the 2.0 the 1.0 was at $599.00. I noted a few days ago they raised the price to $649.00 As for the two different versions of the 2.0 I went through the same thing. Spent the better part of a couple hours comparing parts and googling component's to see what the better value was. I decided the Hydraulic brakes made the better sense between the two. I also spent time on ebay on the derailleurs and found for about $40.00 I could upgrade the front and rear with XT's. I figured I'd have my son ride it for a while and we'll see if there's any issues and make the upgrades from there. To be honest I think I have just as much fun riding as I do tuning and upgrading. Allin all it seems like a very good value.

    Our other choice was the Iron Horse Warrior 5.0 at rscyles at $599 (now their offering 25% off that price). The downfall with that setup was the brakes and the fact the Tora fork only had rebound adjustment and no lockout. I think for the most part these lower end forks all do about the same think. Which means you get what you pay for. That said I will say I'm amazed at what you can buy now days for $500., Heck just a few years ago the same bike would cost a $1,000.

    It's also the end of the year, so the best deals come out around this time. With this economy, i'm sure all companies are slashing prices as much as they can.

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    I'd agree a XC. I noted the clipless and really didn't want them to begin with so they are of no value to me. Eventually I'll move him into clipless but prefer the egg beater style.

    Fork wise as always I read both good and bad on both. I think as long as your using them for the intended use they should be fine. I will tell you coming from riding a $700 bike with a Marzochi Pro fork to a F/S with a Fox fork there's a huge difference. Then again my Fork cost more than this entire bike so there better be a noticeable difference.

    Allin all I'm pretty excited to get the bike in to build it up. Always loved the looks of the GT's.

    As for prices I was half tempted to hold to see if this poor economy doesn't yield yet some better deals?? But figured I was pretty please where I ended up.

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    I'd agree, 10% off the $499 is a good deal.

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    Wow it's 15% off today including bikes.

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    Just got the e-mail flyer. RSCylce is 25% off now. Looks like the year end push is on.

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    Bike arrived today and of course came in as late in the day as possible (20 minutes before I was to leave). Anyhow opened it up and everything looks fairly good. Chain rings look to be cheap other than that pretty please. I may switch out the front and real derailleurs right away as I ran across a pretty good deal on an upgrade. I'll drop in tomorrow to assemble. I will say the fork was better than expected.

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    That's great! I hope you'll enjoy the triple triangle frame as much as I do!

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    Went down to the local Performance shop today and put an order in for Avalanche 2.0 in the white frame. Was debating between the hydraulic and the mechanical disc. Ended up going with the mechanical disc since I really wanted the white frame, and I couldn't get the white frame with the hydraulics discs. Saw Tailwaters comment on the cheap looking chainrings. I also was concerned with these. On the Avalanche 2.0 spec sheet on the Performance website, the 2.0 is suppose to come with the Shimano FC-M341 crankset. However, all the built up 2.0's at my local Perfromance appeared to have a different crankset. The chainrings were riveted together. The FC-M341 should have chainrings that are bolted together per the Shimano tech data sheet. Tailwaters, did your bike have riveted chainrings? Other than that, the bike should be arriving in 5-7 days. Since I had the bike sent to the local Performance shop they waived the shipping charge and gave me the 15% off today (saved me from going there tomorrow). I figure I couldn't do much bettter than that.

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    Sounds like you got a good deal 10s. I suggest that you compare the components when picking up the bike and compare it to the spec sheet.

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    I just went downstairs to compare my 1.0 to the online spec sheet and everything is correct except for the saddle. I received a WTB pure V instead of a WTB speed V. I don't know which one is better but the pure V is mighty comfortable for me.

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    How do you lie the X-100 forks on your 1.0. I'm not very familiar with the SR forks; I have a Fox on my F/S bike, and those ride like a dream, but the fork costs about what I paid for the 2.0. Hopefully the XCR-LO's on the 2.0 are OK for a while.

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    I like them so far but i've only gotten the bike for a little more than 2 weeks and haven't gotten a real good chance to hit the trails yet.

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    Well got a chance to assemble the entire bike and all in all pretty happy with it. As for the chain ring being riveted that is correct. But to be honest not as bad as I thought it would be. It came with a chain ring protector which I removed along with the reflectors and the rear plastic piece on the rear ring set. When I ordered I knew there were going to be some trade offs between the mechanical vs the hydraulic brake 2.0 version. At this time the two things I'd like to change out would be the shifters and pedals. Just not a fan of the Alivo shifters, but may give a little time to see how ell they work. Pedals on the are another story, already placed an order. I will say out of the box the shifting was pretty darn good along with the tires being pretty true running.As for the XCR-LO fork, seems to be pretty smooth running but offers pretty limited adjust ability. The only thing I'm unsure of on the fork is that the lock out almost seems to serve as some type of dampening adjustment as well??Not real sure,but as you turn the knob it starts to stiffen the compression a bit.

    Wished I'd had waited a bit longer to take advantage of the extra 5% off, but oh well thats the way it always go's. I do like the bike better than the Iron Horse 5.0 I was going to order. Not as good components in some areas but defiantly a better looking ride.
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    I think Performance has a price guarantee (not sure if that is exactly what they call it). I think if the price comes down within 90 days they will credit back your account. I've purchased a couple items that had subsequently gone down in price. One was a GT Timberline Sport that I bought for my daughter. They credit me back 5% of the purchase price onf the bike. Give it a try.

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    Was the chainring protector a bolt on item or did you have to drill out the rivets. I saw a couple of GT bikes with a chainring protector and wasn't too keen on how it looked. I'll also be removing mine when I get the bike.

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    Hmm i think if they changed the price itself for the bike, they might credit some back to you. But probably not a coupon.

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    The chain ring protector was screwed on so it came off with ease. I'll tell you this it's one sharp ride! Well they wouldn't honor the additional 5% off as the gal I talked with was not able to do that and the supervisors were not in. She did offer to send me a $5.00 off coupon as well as a free overnight shipping coupon. So somethings better than nothing but I Will follow up with a supervisor as she did state the guarantee the price but it does not take into account discounts??? Which doesn't make sense if you price match?? Anyhow no big deal I'll follow up with a call Monday.

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    The rear plastic piese on the cluster. Do you just have to cut that off or did you take the cluster off the rear hub?

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    I just cut that one off. It was only about an inch wide.

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    Here's a few pics .
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    And a few more. Guess I could have made them a little smaller??
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    Good size pictures! My friend today just purchased a 2.0 as well. I love that matte finish!

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    Looks really sharp. Your son should have a blast.

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    How much of the bike did you have to put together? I'm thinking about also doing it myself. Is it pretty much mounting the front wheel, handle bars, levers and seat. Since I'm having mine delivered to the local Performance, I'll have to get in touch with them so they don't start assembling it. Some of the bikes I've seen them build up didn't look too good. I might be better off doing it myself. My problem is I don't have all the special bike tools if that is whats required. I'm assuming the forks are already mounted, cranks are on, etc.

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    It's very simple for the most part. Handle bars need to be installed so you'll need to remove the cap and spacers from the fork stem to slide them on. Other than that the front wheel, seat, pedals and I believe that was it. Both front and rear brakes will need to be adjusted and tightened but thats really a breeze. The rear brake didn't have much movement so I had to remove the rear caliper and push the pads back in place. If you've never done it before this would be a great one to try. I've done others and they were a real pain. Shifters were near perfect as well as the wheels. Once ridden a bit I'll go back through and make adjustments.

    Looks like I'll upgrade the shifters, front derailleur and crank set in the next week or so.

    Also I was just on GT's website and they are no longer showing a Avalanche 2.0 with hydraulic brakes.Matter of fact the one shown is the one I bought with the same cheaper crank set and mechanical disc brakes.So if your looking for hydraulic this maybe the last you'll seeing this model for a while.

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    Tailwaters, I'd be interested in the parts you go with when you upgrade shifters, crank, etc. I'm thinking of doing the same when I get my bike. BTW, I thought the 2.0 you picked up was the one with the hydraulic discs. thanks

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    I think he did get the hydraulics. From the pictures, there's no metal cables leading to the disc brakes.

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    I did pick up the one with the hydralic brakes. I wanted the white myself but really wanted the brakes and figured I could change the other couple items faitly easy. Did I se your going to convert yours to a 9 speed?? It's a lot easier as well as less expensive to upgrage a 9 speed than a 8 speed. I'm going to guess I can do more for less if it were a 9speed based on what I've seen.

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    At some point I plan to upgrade to a 9 speed. I'll probably upgrade the 9 speed cassette on my F/S bike and put my old 9 speed cassette on the 2.0. At that point I'll probably put on a X.7 rear derailleur and shifter. For the time being though I'll probably ride it around as is unless there is something that is just too annoying. Based on the 2.0's I test rode at my local Performance shop, I think I should be fine for a while (plan to use this bike more for trails and riding around with the kids).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailwaters
    I did pick up the one with the hydralic brakes. I wanted the white myself but really wanted the brakes and figured I could change the other couple items faitly easy. Did I se your going to convert yours to a 9 speed?? It's a lot easier as well as less expensive to upgrage a 9 speed than a 8 speed. I'm going to guess I can do more for less if it were a 9speed based on what I've seen.

    When you mentined it is "easier as well as less expensive to upgrade a 9 speed than a 8 speed", did you mean that the rear derailleur and shifters for a 9 speed are cheaper than for a 8 speed.

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    Yes, There's just not a lot of 8 speed components out there. I just bought a new crank set, however it is a 9 speed crank but was told it would work fine as they only difference is an additional 2 teeth on the large ring.

    If you look on ebay for parts you'll notice that 9 speed parts are about 50% less than the 8 speed.

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    Thanks

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    Thinking about getting a 2.0 but how are the Jalco Ax-430 rims i never heard of them. Can't find any info on them. Are they any good?

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    Rims are nothing special but in this price range I think there all about the same. Matter of fact I'd be surprised if they all didn't come out of the same plant and just have a different logo placed on them.

    On another note got a not so pleasant surprise today. I ordered a new Shiminao Deore Octalink to replace the cheaper Alivio Octalink that came on the bike and discovered there was not an Octalink drive train as stated on the spec sheet through Performance but an older cheeper square tapper crank set. I called Performance and this is the 1st they had heard of this. They contacted GT and in fact they did install a lessor model without telling the vendors. So now I have a new crankset that won't work!! Not happy! So I'm waiting for performance to get back with me as to what they will be willing to do. So it may-not be such a bad idea to have them double check on the spec sheet to verify your getting what you think your getting? In all fairness they were very pleasant and understanding at Performance as they had no idea.

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    Tailwaters could you expand on your "not so pleasant surprise". I've never replaced a crankset so I'm not really familiar with what it entails. I don't understand why your new crankset won't work and how the "square tapper crank set" impacts your ability to use your new Octalink. Does this mean you now also have to go and change the bottom bracket to an eight spline type interface. By using the work Octalink on the spec sheet, does that imply that you should be able to use any Octalink crankset without messing with the bottom bracket. Really appreciate your help. I figure I'll be running into the same problems if I try to upgrade the crankset, first though I need to get the bike. Hopefully it should be arriving in a day or two.

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    You are correct on the BB replacement. Based on what I thought I had on the bike I had just planed on swapping out the cranks and chainring. When I pulled the bolts off the crank arms I noticed right away that it did not have the Octalink BB which means the new crankset I bought on ebay is useless without swapping out the BB. You maybe alright with the one you ordered as it shows a different crankset. The one in the picture is the one that came on my bike just had the wrong description as to what model. Not an issue unless you were changing out and ordering a new one and using their info as your bases.

    As for any Octalink crank set no. I believe they have two different models and I'm not really sure if they can be interchanged. I had sent my model numbers to a couple vendors to make sure the one I bought would work and I believe I was to have the 1st generation.

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    Thanks again. The crankset that comes on the Avalanche I ordered (2.0 with mechanical disc) is the Shimano FC-M341. Looked it up online and looks like it also has the "square tapper design". Posted the link below for the tech data sheet.

    http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830608874.pdf

    Also posted below is the link to the FC-M311 which is the crankset for the 2.0 with hydraulic discs (at least that's what the Perfromance specs say)

    http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830637963.pdf

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    Very interesting! So they have the same error on the other model. Again not a real issue unless you did what I did. Had I known originally it would not have been an issue.

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    Tailwaters, have another question. What exactly does Octalink imply? Is it the eight spline spindle. I noticed on the Performance site that the bottom bracket listed on the spec sheet for both our bikes (hydraulic and mechanical disc) has the bottom bracket as "Shimano Octalink Cartridge Sealed". I think I may also take this up with Performance when I get my bike. Maybe they'll provide some type of offset or discount since it looks like the spec sheet doesn't match whats on the bike.

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    Yes your correct it is a eight spline spindle. I'm getting ready to call them again and no one has gotten back with me .

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    Could you let me know how things work out with Performance. I think when I get my bike I'll also push the issue. BTW, when I ordered the bike I mentioned to the sales guy that the crankset on the 2.0 didn't look like the spec sheet for the FC-M431. he said all the 2.0's they've received have always had the same crankset. I would think at a minimum Performance should provide a Octalink bottom bracket at no charge. What do you think?

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    Thats my thought and or credit in-house towrads future purchase or back on my card for the difference. They run as low as 14.00 and go well over a $100.00 I noticed Performance has one that will fit the bike for $41.00. I'll let you know

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    Thanks. Still waiting for the bike to come in.

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    Wow thats pretty slow! Mine showed up in 4 days. Still now word back from Performance I will be making a phone calling the morning. Must say a little disapointed that they have not gotten back in 3 days over something so simple...

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    I agree, 3 days is a long time for something this simple. I'll be calling my local Performance shop tomorrow to get status on my 2.0

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    Thinking of ordering a Avalanche 2.0. How was dealing with Performance Bikes? I here good and bad.

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    I've been pretty please thus far with the service. Matter of fact I talked with them this morning regarding the lower BB on the Avalanche I just bought from them and they are giving me an in-house credit of $20.00 for the error. I will say the bike came in pretty quick and was very easy to assemble as well as be pretty close adjustment wise.
    Friend of mine bought a Iron Horse from rscycle and I had lots of issues assembling that bike. But still not bad just took a lot longer. I think it took me about 1.5 hrs to complete including adjustments.

    I'd by another from them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kdlindl
    Thinking of ordering a Avalanche 2.0. How was dealing with Performance Bikes? I here good and bad.
    As with all bike shops, there's some people that come out with great experiences and some with well not so good. It all depends on the people who work at your particular LBS or performance bike. Performance bike has a 100% satisfaction guarantee so you can usually get compensation if something isn't done right. I suggest you yelp your local performance bike and see if there are any insightful reviews. And if you prefer ordering online and building your own bike from them, so far the experiences seem to be pretty good.

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    10sballs....... Did the new ride arrive??? Need some pics

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    Tailwaters, my order got all screwed up. Still have not received the bike (ordered on 12/31). The local Perfromance shop that I ordered the 2.0 from has had their internet service cut off because apparently corporate failed to pay the bill (at least that's what they're telling me). Soooo, they can not provide me any status on my order (just got off the phone with them and no luck). At one point they told me the bike was shipped on 1/5/09, but 10 days to FedEx a bike to southern california seems a little excessive. They hope to have their internet back up on Monday. I'm starting to get a little pissed because so far I don't think I've got a straight answer, and I really doubt that MY bike was ever shipped on 1/5. The Performance website still is showing 2.0's in the white frame size small still available so I think they still must have them in stock. VERY frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10sballs
    Tailwaters, my order got all screwed up. Still have not received the bike (ordered on 12/31). The local Perfromance shop that I ordered the 2.0 from has had their internet service cut off because apparently corporate failed to pay the bill (at least that's what they're telling me). Soooo, they can not provide me any status on my order (just got off the phone with them and no luck). At one point they told me the bike was shipped on 1/5/09, but 10 days to FedEx a bike to southern california seems a little excessive. They hope to have their internet back up on Monday. I'm starting to get a little pissed because so far I don't think I've got a straight answer, and I really doubt that MY bike was ever shipped on 1/5. The Performance website still is showing 2.0's in the white frame size small still available so I think they still must have them in stock. VERY frustrating.
    What store in CA is it? I was thinking of having one shipped to the Corona store.I hope its not that store.When they go back on sale 10 to 15 percent off. They told me the bikes come on there company trucks not FedEx. Thats why it takes so long. But if your having this many problems i will have second thoughts

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    Just FYI, when i got mine shipped to san francisco, ca it took about 10 days, then another 2 days for them to build it.

    Edit: Guess i'm a little late in replying to one of the above posts. Sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kdlindl
    What store in CA is it? I was thinking of having one shipped to the Corona store.I hope its not that store.When they go back on sale 10 to 15 percent off. They told me the bikes come on there company trucks not FedEx. Thats why it takes so long. But if your having this many problems i will have second thoughts
    I'm having it shipped to the Torrance store. I did ask them if they shipped via a company truck or another carrier like UPS or FedEx. They said Fedex but I'm starting to wonder if the guy who told me that didn't have his s__t together. Today, I went on-line and went through the process of ordering a bike and had it shipped to the Torrance store. As I went through the process it said the bike would arrive by 2/6 . So that puts it at about 3 weeks for the bike to arrive. What I did different when I actually ordered the bike back on 12/31 (took advantage of the 15% off) was I placed the order while I was at the Performance store. By doing this they were able to somehow by-pass the normal $30 shipping charge they hit you up with when you have an oversize items shipped to the store. Now I'm starting to think 3 weeks is more about right and that they probably use their own trucks, like the folks at the Corona store told you.

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    That's pretty bad!!! They should have said something that way you could have made the decision wether to pay the addintional $30.00 for faster shipping.

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    I agree. Not too happy right now. I can't fault them for their internet problems which is the main reason they can't provide any specific status as to where the bike is. At this point I don't even know if it left North Carolina, who knows. If I knew it was going to be this bad I would have paid the $30. When I placed the order they told me the bike would be here in 5 - 7 days. At the time, that was worth saving the $30. Little did I know it would end up like this.

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    Tailwaters, since I've been waiting so long for my 2.0 I've now started questioning myself on the size I ordered. I'm 5' 6'' with about a 29" inseam. I ordered a small frame. For my F/S ride I have a '08 stumpy fsr comp, also a small frame. Since I'll be riding the the 2.0 on more mellow trails, mostly with the kids, I'm now thinking I should maybe go with the medium. I straddled the medium at the Performance shop and the top tube was pretty much right there so I didn't try riding it around the parking lot. But since I won't be using this for aggressive riding the medium might be better. Was wondering how big your son is and what size you went with?

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    He's 5'4 with a 28 " inseam and only 15 so he'll grow a bit more. I really went with the GT because the frame is in between a small and medium. I tried him on one of my medium frames and he was simply to small. The GT I figured I could stretch out a bit with a different stem down the road as he gets a little taller. At your height your right on the border of a small/medium. Pending your age and if you expect to get any taller it really comes down to how the bike feels. If it feels good than go with it. However if your still growing the medium maybe the ticket. I second guessed my Top Fuel size when I bought it as the chart said a medium but I felt much more comfortable on the large.I ended up with the large and couldn't be happier. It's all feel.

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    I won't be growing any more. I had a chance today to go to a near by bike shop (not Performance) and they happened to have a medium GT Outpost. Turns out the Outpost has the same frame geometry as the Avalanche. Rode the medium around and I felt a little too stretched out. Would definitely have to go with a shorter stem if I went with the medium. When my bike eventually comes in (hopefully this week), I'll try a medium 2.0 since the Performance shop had quite a few of them. But based on my ride today on the medium Outpost, I think I'll stay with the small.

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    Defiantly go with what feels right. I got the new crankset installed last week and the pedals came in Monday so now I'm just waiting for the new front derailleur to arrive and I should be all set. I did notice Performance changed the crankset on the website to read right. Not that it was there fault as I noticed other sites had it listed the same way so it was a manufacture error.

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    Sounds great! What type of pedals did you go with? ALso which FD are you going to put on the bike. As for me still no bike. Talked to guys at Performance on Monday and their internet connection was still down. Will be contacting them again today. It's now been 22 days since I placed my order.

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    Thats over the top ridiculous! They should offer some type of in store credit or discount for the delay. I ended up putting on some Wellgo MG-1 flats as they were fairly light at only 376g for the pair. Eventually I'll move him into clip less but for now I'll let him built a little more confidence. Front derailleur is a Shimano Deore to match the rear ($15.00 on ebay). The only other thing I'd like to swap out are the shifters. Would like to pick up a set of Sram Attack shifters as they work with Shimano components. So with the $25.00 credit from performance I've put an additional $80 in the bike at this point. And I expected to do that so no surprise.

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    Your son is going to have an awesome bike. Lucky kid. We'll I talked to Performance late this afternoon and their internet connection is finally up. They were able to confirm that the email went out which apparently starts the process to get my bike. That email went out 10 minutes after I placed my order back on 12/31/08. Unfortunately, still no real status on where the heck my bike is since it was too late for them to call back east. When I placed the order I think they said the bike was being shipped from North Carolina. Soooo, I'll be back on the phone again with them tomorrow morning and hopefully I get some "real" status. With my luck the order got lost somewhere an the bike isn't even in transit to the west coast. Maybe I should ask them to just give me the Avalanche 1.0 they have in the store for the same price I paid for the 2.0

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    It would be worth a shot. I was torn between the 1.0 and the 2.0. I simply didn't care much for the silver compared to the blue and the white (white be the preference). After I ordered the 2.0 I decided to go ahead with the 1.0 and as I was getting ready to call when I received a notice my bike had been shipping. They had the 1.0 for $549.00 for just a few days. I'm not sure if that wasn't a type-o now as I've not seen it listed that cheap since.

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    I was in the same boat. I liked the price of the 2.0 and really wanted the white frame. That is also the reason I didn't go for the 2.0 with the hydraulic discs. I realize that it would cost me much more to upgrade the 2.0 up to the level of the 1.0 components, but that white frame kept drawing me back. The $549 is definitiely a great price. When I ordered my 2.0 I took advantage of the New Year's special where I got 15% off the 2.0. 15% off the 1.0 would have only brought the 1.0 down to $594. I'll keep you posted on where I end up. The other battle I'll be facing is what you went through with your bottom bracket. That will be next on my list after I get the bike.

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    Here's a couple pics with the new crank and pedals as well as the computer came in yesterday as well.
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    Looks great. No news yet on my bike.

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    Found out that the screw up was back in North Carolina, or where the order was submitted. They essentailly dropped the ball and never processed my order. So, 26 days after my order is placed I finally get the facts. Supposedly my order is now in and my local Performance sales rep said the bike will be here in 7 days, though I'm not going to hold my breath on this one.

    Tailwaters, was wondering if Performance gave you any grief when you called them about the BB on your 2.0 not matching up with the spec sheet on the Performance website. I need to figure out how I'm going to approach them with the similar problem I'm going to have if my bike ever gets here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10sballs
    Went down to the local Performance shop today and put an order in for Avalanche 2.0 in the white frame. Was debating between the hydraulic and the mechanical disc. Ended up going with the mechanical disc since I really wanted the white frame, and I couldn't get the white frame with the hydraulics discs. Saw Tailwaters comment on the cheap looking chainrings. I also was concerned with these. On the Avalanche 2.0 spec sheet on the Performance website, the 2.0 is suppose to come with the Shimano FC-M341 crankset. However, all the built up 2.0's at my local Perfromance appeared to have a different crankset. The chainrings were riveted together. The FC-M341 should have chainrings that are bolted together per the Shimano tech data sheet. Tailwaters, did your bike have riveted chainrings? Other than that, the bike should be arriving in 5-7 days. Since I had the bike sent to the local Performance shop they waived the shipping charge and gave me the 15% off today (saved me from going there tomorrow). I figure I couldn't do much bettter than that.
    How did you get them to waive the shipping charge? Called the Corona store and they would not waive the charge and i thinking having one shipped to there store.I read that you are having problems with them making me think twice.

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    White pedals? That looks awesome.

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    Best bet now would be to leave that alone and hit them upon the new low price! The non disc was just reduced to $429.00 plus they are offering another 10% off on top of that. I also noticed the 1.0 is down to $549.00 again with an additional 10% off. Their delay may have saved you a few bucks??

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    Thanks for the info. That will work out to be about $40 in savings. Not bad.

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    You bet!! That darn deal gets better and better.I'm getting to the point I hate to even look.
    But I can't complain I ended up at $420.00 plus shipping plus I received a free overnight shipping coupon.

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    By the way I did notice they made the change on the cranks

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    Just ordered the XL in blue.You can't beat that price at $430 and 10 percent off. I don't thing they will go much lower, Having it shipped to Corona CA hope i don't have any problems.

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    Agreed. At that price you can make some mods and still be money ahead. Did you opt of the mechanical disc or Hydraulic?

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    Mechanical they didn't have the Hydraulic in XL. I'm 6'4" and need the XL frame.

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    So I went on a 45 mile road ride this Saturday and took my F/S stumpy (averaging about 14 mph). After that ride it really got me thinking about the 2.0 I ordered in the small frame. Since the Avalanche is going to spend pretty much all its time on pavement/bike paths, I really don't need the top tube clearance I was getting with the small frame. Plus the extra inch in wheelbase between the small and medium would probabaly help in a smoother ride on the road. I went back to Performance on Sunday and test rode a 1.0 in a medium (since they didn't have any 2.0 mediums in stock). After the test ride I decided to change my order to a 2.0 medium in white. The sales rep I'm dealing with at my local Performance was great and gave me no hassle with making the chnage. Now however I start the clock again waiting for my new bike. Should be here sometime early next week.

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    Did you hit them up on the new price?

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