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    GT Avalanche 2.0 questions

    I just ordered a new 2008 Avalanche 2.0 with Tektro Aguila Comp Hydraulic Disc brakes and was wondering if the disc were screwed onto the hub or held on by rivets? I put a Iron Horse Warrior 5.0 togeather for a friend and noted the Shimano Hydraulic brakes were not the greatest and the disc were rivited to the hubs? Also I ordred a size small as he's 5'4" and as near as I could tell the small was about a 16" frame. Looks like a very nice setup for the money and Performance Bikes have 10% off till tomorrow. Would be great to here from all who own one and how well you like the bike. My sons 15 so he'll be pretty surprise come birthday time in April.

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    There are 2 common methods of holding rotors to the hubs the Shimano "centerlock" system where the disks fit onto the hubs with the centerlock (very nice system!) or the more traditional system were the hub has 6 bolts and torx screws are holding the rotor to the hub. This really breaks down to 2 methods of putting the disk rotors onto the hubs. Both can be replaced when the rotors wear but these systems are not interchangeable. Check out shimano's site on Deore here http://bike.shimano.com/publish/cont...ain/deore.html both systems have advantages and disadvantages the bolt onto the hub system runs the risk of the disks getting loose if the bolts loosen.

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    Wow you bought the bike for your son 4 months in advance! I have a 2008 1.0 and it's been great so far. Firm, strong, sturdy ride. The saddle seems more comfy than my older 3.0 but I haven't gotten much ride time yet due to the weather/season. One minor (very minor) issue I have with the bike is that the water bottle cage mount (2 holes) is off center. It's just a little annoying to look down and see more of the right side of the bottle versus the left.

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    The bike will be sitting at my office until April. Guess I'll be taking my bike stand in t assemble. Hated to buy something without seeing it but based on what I've read I feel pretty comfortable.Anyhow Performance has a 100% Satisfaction Guarantee.

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    Yeah, performance has a good guarantee. If you don't fit well in the bike, they'll replace it with a larger one

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    Whats the word on the Kenda Nevegals on the bike? Are they standard set or a less expensive heavier OEM tire?? Not sure if they do such a thing but I noticed there were not many marking on the tires in the photo's?

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    Still not sure if they are of the same quality or a lessor expensive version the OEM are putting on? I have a pair of Negegal DTC on my F/S and these on the GT seem to be a lower budget and my guess is heavier version. In the auto world they put a cheaper version of the tires on. Wasn't sure if they did the same think in the bike world??

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    Hmm, this is the first I've heard about having two versions of the same tire with 1 version being a lower quality in both auto/biking world. I believe that would be illegal. They have to at least change the name of the tire or version. I haven't quite broken in my tires in yet, but so far so good. Very predictable, traction seems good so far on light sand and dirt.

    One issue with the bikes that I've bought from my performance bike is that they didn't tune the rear derailleur very well. Both bikes were ghost shifting back there and needed minor adjustments. I'm not sure if you knew but the bikes you buy from them comes with lifetime adjustments if you have any issues. My performance bike was kind of far so I made my own.

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    Well let me rephrase the tire issue. OEM auto tires come with less tread life than your off the shelf tires you purchase from a retailer. One way they cut cost in the auto industry. I know Kenda has several different models of the Nevegal so I'm assuming this is the cheaper heavier version? I run the DCT model and love them.

    As for the shifting issues I assumed I'd have some problems. I'm some distance to any of the stores so I'll be making all the adjustments. By the way were the hydraulic brakes already bled down and in order??

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    Brakes working perfectly, pads need to be worn in a little bit (obviously). I'm not too sure which version of the tires they are, I'm sure the manufacturer opted for the cheaper version though (at least that's what i would do if i was the manufacturer).

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    Bike arrives Wednesday so we'll get a good look at it. I wish I had spent the extra $100 and went with the 1.0 now. Just thinking down the road (a little late for that).

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    Does anyone know what the deal is with the two Avalanche 2.0's at Performance. I noticed they have the 2.0 with mechanical disc and one with hydraulic disc for the same price ($499). Did they cut back somewhere on the hydraulic version. The only thing I really noticed was the hydraulic version comes with a different crankset the M311 versus the M341 on the 2.0 with mecanical discs. Best I can tell is the M311 has riveted chainrings while the M341 comes with a crank with replaceable chainrings.

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    I think you still did better with the 2.0. The difference in price is more like $150 (I think the 1.0 is going for $649 versus $499 for the 2.0 at Performance). With the $150 you saved you can easily upgrade the front and rear deraillueur and the shifters. The only other real difference is the front shock, and I'm not sure if the Suntour X-100 is really that much better than the Suntour XCR-Lo. Does anyone have experience with these two entry level front forks.

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    The 1.0 was $599.

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    You also get 27 gears vs 24 if that matters though.

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    Was the $599 a pre-christmas sale price. Today when I checkedit was $649. Guess I should wait for the price to come down. I've been keeping my eye on the 1.0 and 2.0. BTW, what was the lowest folks have seen the 2.0 on sale for. Today it was $499.

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    Does anyone know what the deal is with the two Avalanche 2.0's at Performance. I noticed they have the 2.0 with mechanical disc and one with hydraulic disc for the same price ($499). Did they cut back somewhere on the hydraulic version. The only thing I really noticed was the hydraulic version comes with a different crankset the M311 versus the M341 on the 2.0 with mecanical discs. Best I can tell is the M311 has riveted chainrings while the M341 comes with a crank with replaceable chainrings.

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    When I placed the order for the 2.0 the 1.0 was at $599.00. I noted a few days ago they raised the price to $649.00 As for the two different versions of the 2.0 I went through the same thing. Spent the better part of a couple hours comparing parts and googling component's to see what the better value was. I decided the Hydraulic brakes made the better sense between the two. I also spent time on ebay on the derailleurs and found for about $40.00 I could upgrade the front and rear with XT's. I figured I'd have my son ride it for a while and we'll see if there's any issues and make the upgrades from there. To be honest I think I have just as much fun riding as I do tuning and upgrading. Allin all it seems like a very good value.

    Our other choice was the Iron Horse Warrior 5.0 at rscyles at $599 (now their offering 25% off that price). The downfall with that setup was the brakes and the fact the Tora fork only had rebound adjustment and no lockout. I think for the most part these lower end forks all do about the same think. Which means you get what you pay for. That said I will say I'm amazed at what you can buy now days for $500., Heck just a few years ago the same bike would cost a $1,000.

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    Tailwaters, did you do much research on the front forks that come on the 1.0 and 2.0. I noticed the 1.0 comes with the Suntour X-100 and the 2.0 comes with Suntour XCR-LO. Not sure if its worth paying the extra $100 for the X-100. Might be better pocketing the cash and buying a "good" front fork when the stock fork needs replacement.

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    It doesn't really look like they cut back on the hydraulic version. Seems like hydraulics would be the way to go? I was reading the discussion about AM bikes vs XC bikes. Which type of bikes do our GTs fit into?

    Oh one other difference, the 1.0 has clipless pedals as well.

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    The Avalanche is XC

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailwaters
    When I placed the order for the 2.0 the 1.0 was at $599.00. I noted a few days ago they raised the price to $649.00 As for the two different versions of the 2.0 I went through the same thing. Spent the better part of a couple hours comparing parts and googling component's to see what the better value was. I decided the Hydraulic brakes made the better sense between the two. I also spent time on ebay on the derailleurs and found for about $40.00 I could upgrade the front and rear with XT's. I figured I'd have my son ride it for a while and we'll see if there's any issues and make the upgrades from there. To be honest I think I have just as much fun riding as I do tuning and upgrading. Allin all it seems like a very good value.

    Our other choice was the Iron Horse Warrior 5.0 at rscyles at $599 (now their offering 25% off that price). The downfall with that setup was the brakes and the fact the Tora fork only had rebound adjustment and no lockout. I think for the most part these lower end forks all do about the same think. Which means you get what you pay for. That said I will say I'm amazed at what you can buy now days for $500., Heck just a few years ago the same bike would cost a $1,000.

    It's also the end of the year, so the best deals come out around this time. With this economy, i'm sure all companies are slashing prices as much as they can.

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    I'd agree a XC. I noted the clipless and really didn't want them to begin with so they are of no value to me. Eventually I'll move him into clipless but prefer the egg beater style.

    Fork wise as always I read both good and bad on both. I think as long as your using them for the intended use they should be fine. I will tell you coming from riding a $700 bike with a Marzochi Pro fork to a F/S with a Fox fork there's a huge difference. Then again my Fork cost more than this entire bike so there better be a noticeable difference.

    Allin all I'm pretty excited to get the bike in to build it up. Always loved the looks of the GT's.

    As for prices I was half tempted to hold to see if this poor economy doesn't yield yet some better deals?? But figured I was pretty please where I ended up.

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    I'd agree, 10% off the $499 is a good deal.

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    Wow it's 15% off today including bikes.

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    Just got the e-mail flyer. RSCylce is 25% off now. Looks like the year end push is on.

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    Bike arrived today and of course came in as late in the day as possible (20 minutes before I was to leave). Anyhow opened it up and everything looks fairly good. Chain rings look to be cheap other than that pretty please. I may switch out the front and real derailleurs right away as I ran across a pretty good deal on an upgrade. I'll drop in tomorrow to assemble. I will say the fork was better than expected.

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    That's great! I hope you'll enjoy the triple triangle frame as much as I do!

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    Went down to the local Performance shop today and put an order in for Avalanche 2.0 in the white frame. Was debating between the hydraulic and the mechanical disc. Ended up going with the mechanical disc since I really wanted the white frame, and I couldn't get the white frame with the hydraulics discs. Saw Tailwaters comment on the cheap looking chainrings. I also was concerned with these. On the Avalanche 2.0 spec sheet on the Performance website, the 2.0 is suppose to come with the Shimano FC-M341 crankset. However, all the built up 2.0's at my local Perfromance appeared to have a different crankset. The chainrings were riveted together. The FC-M341 should have chainrings that are bolted together per the Shimano tech data sheet. Tailwaters, did your bike have riveted chainrings? Other than that, the bike should be arriving in 5-7 days. Since I had the bike sent to the local Performance shop they waived the shipping charge and gave me the 15% off today (saved me from going there tomorrow). I figure I couldn't do much bettter than that.

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    Sounds like you got a good deal 10s. I suggest that you compare the components when picking up the bike and compare it to the spec sheet.

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    I just went downstairs to compare my 1.0 to the online spec sheet and everything is correct except for the saddle. I received a WTB pure V instead of a WTB speed V. I don't know which one is better but the pure V is mighty comfortable for me.

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    How do you lie the X-100 forks on your 1.0. I'm not very familiar with the SR forks; I have a Fox on my F/S bike, and those ride like a dream, but the fork costs about what I paid for the 2.0. Hopefully the XCR-LO's on the 2.0 are OK for a while.

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    I like them so far but i've only gotten the bike for a little more than 2 weeks and haven't gotten a real good chance to hit the trails yet.

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    Well got a chance to assemble the entire bike and all in all pretty happy with it. As for the chain ring being riveted that is correct. But to be honest not as bad as I thought it would be. It came with a chain ring protector which I removed along with the reflectors and the rear plastic piece on the rear ring set. When I ordered I knew there were going to be some trade offs between the mechanical vs the hydraulic brake 2.0 version. At this time the two things I'd like to change out would be the shifters and pedals. Just not a fan of the Alivo shifters, but may give a little time to see how ell they work. Pedals on the are another story, already placed an order. I will say out of the box the shifting was pretty darn good along with the tires being pretty true running.As for the XCR-LO fork, seems to be pretty smooth running but offers pretty limited adjust ability. The only thing I'm unsure of on the fork is that the lock out almost seems to serve as some type of dampening adjustment as well??Not real sure,but as you turn the knob it starts to stiffen the compression a bit.

    Wished I'd had waited a bit longer to take advantage of the extra 5% off, but oh well thats the way it always go's. I do like the bike better than the Iron Horse 5.0 I was going to order. Not as good components in some areas but defiantly a better looking ride.
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    I think Performance has a price guarantee (not sure if that is exactly what they call it). I think if the price comes down within 90 days they will credit back your account. I've purchased a couple items that had subsequently gone down in price. One was a GT Timberline Sport that I bought for my daughter. They credit me back 5% of the purchase price onf the bike. Give it a try.

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    Was the chainring protector a bolt on item or did you have to drill out the rivets. I saw a couple of GT bikes with a chainring protector and wasn't too keen on how it looked. I'll also be removing mine when I get the bike.

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    Hmm i think if they changed the price itself for the bike, they might credit some back to you. But probably not a coupon.

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    The chain ring protector was screwed on so it came off with ease. I'll tell you this it's one sharp ride! Well they wouldn't honor the additional 5% off as the gal I talked with was not able to do that and the supervisors were not in. She did offer to send me a $5.00 off coupon as well as a free overnight shipping coupon. So somethings better than nothing but I Will follow up with a supervisor as she did state the guarantee the price but it does not take into account discounts??? Which doesn't make sense if you price match?? Anyhow no big deal I'll follow up with a call Monday.

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    The rear plastic piese on the cluster. Do you just have to cut that off or did you take the cluster off the rear hub?

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    I just cut that one off. It was only about an inch wide.

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    Here's a few pics .
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    And a few more. Guess I could have made them a little smaller??
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    Good size pictures! My friend today just purchased a 2.0 as well. I love that matte finish!

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    Looks really sharp. Your son should have a blast.

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    How much of the bike did you have to put together? I'm thinking about also doing it myself. Is it pretty much mounting the front wheel, handle bars, levers and seat. Since I'm having mine delivered to the local Performance, I'll have to get in touch with them so they don't start assembling it. Some of the bikes I've seen them build up didn't look too good. I might be better off doing it myself. My problem is I don't have all the special bike tools if that is whats required. I'm assuming the forks are already mounted, cranks are on, etc.

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    It's very simple for the most part. Handle bars need to be installed so you'll need to remove the cap and spacers from the fork stem to slide them on. Other than that the front wheel, seat, pedals and I believe that was it. Both front and rear brakes will need to be adjusted and tightened but thats really a breeze. The rear brake didn't have much movement so I had to remove the rear caliper and push the pads back in place. If you've never done it before this would be a great one to try. I've done others and they were a real pain. Shifters were near perfect as well as the wheels. Once ridden a bit I'll go back through and make adjustments.

    Looks like I'll upgrade the shifters, front derailleur and crank set in the next week or so.

    Also I was just on GT's website and they are no longer showing a Avalanche 2.0 with hydraulic brakes.Matter of fact the one shown is the one I bought with the same cheaper crank set and mechanical disc brakes.So if your looking for hydraulic this maybe the last you'll seeing this model for a while.

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    Tailwaters, I'd be interested in the parts you go with when you upgrade shifters, crank, etc. I'm thinking of doing the same when I get my bike. BTW, I thought the 2.0 you picked up was the one with the hydraulic discs. thanks

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    I think he did get the hydraulics. From the pictures, there's no metal cables leading to the disc brakes.

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    I did pick up the one with the hydralic brakes. I wanted the white myself but really wanted the brakes and figured I could change the other couple items faitly easy. Did I se your going to convert yours to a 9 speed?? It's a lot easier as well as less expensive to upgrage a 9 speed than a 8 speed. I'm going to guess I can do more for less if it were a 9speed based on what I've seen.

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