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    2014 GT Sensor and Force 27.5


    Nice product coming out of the GT camp for next year! 130mm Sensor and 150mm Force, both in carbon...get ready!

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    That is one strangest looking suspension designs. I've never seen anything like it.
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    Force might be my next bike.

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    2014 GT Sensor and Force 27.5

    Pretty slick!!

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    Supposedly there is a third bike as well, a 160mm bike that they aren't unveiling just yet which is their enduro bike. Anyone know any more about that one ?

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    I would like the 160 enduro. I'm wondering if there will be a frame only option for these bikes?

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    I am hoping that this is still coming out, probaly the 160 bike like a new Sanction?
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    It seemed too developed to be scrapped for what the new force is. Also has a lot of features the new force is missing like ISCG and piggyback shock room.

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    A 26" hardtail would be great........
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    They should re-name the new ones as RTS-I drive



    The would've just put the BB right in that link 18 years ago and it would have been a revolution! lol


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    2014 GT Sensor and Force 27.5

    Hope to see some rider impressions and reviews. Hopefully this design loses the stupid creaks and the constant loosening of the pivot bolts. They look sweet would love to test ride the carbon team force.


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    Videos on the new GT bike's suspension design...

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    I pray for zero creaks since my sanction always is in need of some love to keep it from sounding like hell.

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    The new suspension is intriguing. Not sure if I'll like the crank/pedals moving backwards that much under compression, but I bet it makes the bike manual like a hardtail.

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    Or a refined version of this in 27.5!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katz View Post
    The new suspension is intriguing. Not sure if I'll like the crank/pedals moving backwards that much under compression, but I bet it makes the bike manual like a hardtail.
    Yes, I noticed that as well. That looked like a crazy amount of crank movement! My knees would not like that...
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    You don't feel it one bit when riding it. My buddy has a current model Sensor 9r and it's stinking nice! The new one being lower and slacker will only make it better. the iDrive is wild when you're climbing because your mass actually shifts backwards a bit when the suspension compresses on technical stuff so the traction literally digs in. A normal bike, the rear wheel is left to it's own devices but the iDrive actually borrows your body weight to assist in climbing traction. Lots going on with that design and most of it's good Only draw backs to me about HIS bike is frame weight and it's pretty loud. Lots of squeaks from the pivots but that could be down to his maintenance, or lack thereof. If the new frame addresses those two issues I'd have to think about a 650b version pretty hard, UNLESS Knolly's secret bike is a carbon 650b. A plastic, 650b Knolly or GT could possibly be joining my Prime in the garage next summer

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFYFZX View Post
    You don't feel it one bit when riding it. My buddy has a current model Sensor 9r and it's stinking nice! The new one being lower and slacker will only make it better. the iDrive is wild when you're climbing because your mass actually shifts backwards a bit when the suspension compresses on technical stuff so the traction literally digs in. A normal bike, the rear wheel is left to it's own devices but the iDrive actually borrows your body weight to assist in climbing traction. Lots going on with that design and most of it's good Only draw backs to me about HIS bike is frame weight and it's pretty loud. Lots of squeaks from the pivots but that could be down to his maintenance, or lack thereof. If the new frame addresses those two issues I'd have to think about a 650b version pretty hard, UNLESS Knolly's secret bike is a carbon 650b. A plastic, 650b Knolly or GT could possibly be joining my Prime in the garage next summer
    I have ridden an old Sensor 26 and was blown away by the suspension performance. I don't remember it having any crank movement like that! I just can't believe that you could not feel that level of crank movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    I have ridden an old Sensor 26 and was blown away by the suspension performance. I don't remember it having any crank movement like that! I just can't believe that you could not feel that level of crank movement.
    I have a Distortion 1.0. The crank movement is about 3/8" throughout the suspension travel (112mm). I can't see it moving much more than 1/2" on longer-travel cousins (current Sanction/Force).

    With AOS, it looks like the crank moves back at least an inch and half on the CAD model shown in the video. Apparently it works well enough for Dan Atherton and Hans Rey so I'm not questioning its effectiveness. But I am speculating it's gonna feel a little weird until you get used to it.

    I am still interested in trying it, though. If I'm seeing it right, the motion of your legs will be much more efficiently transferred to the bike when you do bunnyhops and manuals.

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    These 2 bikes cannot be released soon enough for me. Does anyone know if these are coming out this year , or are they being released in 2014?

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    2014 GT Sensor and Force 27.5

    Ya I second that release date and prices?


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    that black/white/gold paint job on the Sensor Carbon Team makes that bike gorgeous. I know getting a bike for the paint job/looks is silly but come on, it's so damn pretty!!

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    I can't get over the resurgence GT is making. I first fell in love with GT back int he LTS days, but the past couple of years have been...well not so impressive. But you can see them gearing up and kick ass, and its about time. I think the Distortion was the first signs of it, but they're going full tilt now. That blue and white Sensor looks just amazing, and I have no doubts it will ride even better than it looks.
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    That Sensor looks like a serious contender to join my Xizang 9r. That or the Santacruz Solo. The Sensor will be available from september onward, the Force from january.
    I've been on the Sensor 9r for a couple of rides and that bike was awesome. Only drawback : it's big as a truck. Once you riding it you don't feel it but you need a ladder to get on it. With the medium wheelsize that should be better.
    Now I need to go and see my friend Mark M., maybe he already has one of the new Sensors in his truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFYFZX View Post
    You don't feel it one bit when riding it. My buddy has a current model Sensor 9r and it's stinking nice! The new one being lower and slacker will only make it better. the iDrive is wild when you're climbing because your mass actually shifts backwards a bit when the suspension compresses on technical stuff so the traction literally digs in. A normal bike, the rear wheel is left to it's own devices but the iDrive actually borrows your body weight to assist in climbing traction. Lots going on with that design and most of it's good Only draw backs to me about HIS bike is frame weight and it's pretty loud. Lots of squeaks from the pivots but that could be down to his maintenance, or lack thereof. If the new frame addresses those two issues I'd have to think about a 650b version pretty hard, UNLESS Knolly's secret bike is a carbon 650b. A plastic, 650b Knolly or GT could possibly be joining my Prime in the garage next summer
    Agreed on the I-drive rear suspension. I just took my Sensor 9r to Colorado in May and got to do some really chunky climbs. Rear shock is an x-fusion which is super-plush and has almost zero platform. I was blown away at how well it pedaled over large rocks and obstacles. I wanted to lean forward, but I found that if I kept my weight back, I had plenty of support from the rear suspension, yet somehow it remained plush.

    How does the Prime pedal in comparison? I love my Sensor, but have been looking at the Prime because I want something slacker and with a lower BB, and a longer TT would be nice for me. But I would hate to give up my I-drive.

    If GT updates the Sensor 9r like they are doing with the 26er, I'd be all over that!

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    2014 GT Sensor and Force 27.5

    The Prime is sheer excellence. My buddy rides a Yeti SB95 and we swapped bikes for a ride the other day. He was blown away by the pedaling efficiency and yet he also couldn't believe the downhill prowess. He didn't say he was ready to give up his SB but he was very surprised by the Prime. He said he always assumed his bike was superior due to the switch pivot and all the chit chat about the SB but now he's not so convinced. He wasn't expecting the slap in the face...

    As far as my ride on the SB??? Meh...

    The one caveat to the Prime is it's pretty heavy. It doesn't feel like it when you're riding it, and I have mine built to 29.9lbs(with lots of carbon AND carbon wheels), but it is most definitely an AM bike! A few guys XC race them but they're not expecting to be competitive. It's just for fun.

    I believe GT is updating the Sensor 9r to the new AOS system. I thought I read that somewhere...

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    Thanks, that's good to hear about the Prime. I live in Texas, so if I buy one I probably won't be able to demo it. I'm not too concerned about the weight - I weigh 225 and can't seem to tell a difference between bikes that are 2-4 lbs different. I put a much higher premium on pedaling efficiency.

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    2014 GT Sensor and Force 27.5

    Seriously January? For the force Crom! Well guess the piggy bank will swell by then. Any word on frame only options?


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    I called GT and no frame only option which I think is just stupid. Release dates and pricing will be released next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    I called GT and no frame only option which I think is just stupid.
    +1

    One thing I noticed is the lack of available space around the shock area. Makes me wonder if anything more than a CTD or the like would fit. Hopefully that's not the case.

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    I called GT today about release dates on the Sensor and Force

    The girl who answered did not seem sure of the answers she was giving me, so take with a grain of salt. She said the Sensor will be released starting in August and go into September. My thinking is maybe the carbons first followed by aluminum second or vice versa. She said the Force would also be released in September.

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    Carbon frames will be available seperately (in Europe at least ) : 3,299 Euro for the Sensor Carbon ; 3,399 for the Force Carbon, both with Kashima shocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    I called GT and no frame only option which I think is just stupid. Release dates and pricing will be released next week.
    What?? No frame only?? I was seriously waiting in the wings to see when this would be available, and also to see what Yeti ends up doing with 650B... I have a 575 that I'm super happy with - no sold on SB... but I've yet to ride one. But GT sure has my attention as of late with their resurgence and solid design. No frame only could be a complete deal breaker. I build my own bikes, I don't want an overpriced pre-built bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmx1 View Post
    Carbon frames will be available seperately (in Europe at least ) : 3,299 Euro for the Sensor Carbon ; 3,399 for the Force Carbon, both with Kashima shocks

    ouch! 3400 Euro is almost 4500 USD at today's exchange... for just a frame and shock (even for carbon - that is insanely expensive)

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    All this news is discouraging for me. I was willing to spend $2700 max for the Force carbon pro frame. If they don't offer a frame only option at a competative pricepoint, GT doesn't get my money, its that simple. Bad business move if this is the case.

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    Yup, unless they get the frame price closer to what else is out there, they will be off my list real quick.

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    Next time you are on the phone with GT.Tell them bloghogs still needs that xizang....
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    Hmm, I'm interested in the prices, anyone have a ballpark guess of what the force carbon expert would be around? I just started riding again, was thinking a sensor carbon, but I already have a well eqipped idrive 5 so no use in another 5 inch bike, hell $2-3k for ANY carbon frame seems redic when most of them are made in taiwain anyways.

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    According to this there will be a frame only. I'm also interested in that as my current Sanction makes me pretty happy with the build I have on it. I would just need to update the stan's rims. Fingers crossed that the price point is competitive with other brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmx1 View Post
    Carbon frames will be available seperately (in Europe at least ) : 3,299 Euro for the Sensor Carbon ; 3,399 for the Force Carbon, both with Kashima shocks
    If those figures are correct they are carrying a very significant premium in price over the likes of Ibis, Yeti, etc.
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    Re: 2014 GT Sensor and Force 27.5

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Chop! View Post
    According to this there will be a frame only. I'm also interested in that as my current Sanction makes me pretty happy with the build I have on it. I would just need to update the stan's rims. Fingers crossed that the price point is competitive with other brands.

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    So I was searching dealers in Canada and the only place that carries GT is a large sporting goods store called sport check? seriously ? I'm nervous at the idea of dropping 4500+ dollars at a store where I know more about bikes then the sales dude.....

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    I get the feeling GT is focusing on getting some complete bikes out, and getting their early adopters happy - and once they get a better feel on reviews and demand they'll adjust the price and release frame/rear shock kits at that point. I don't think Cannondale group are that allergic to money.

    My pricing worry on these are that the Carbon frames made in Taiwan aren't super unique, the shock location may make some buyers want to go with remotes on the rear shock, and for weight conscious buyers, even the 150mm Force with less competition in that amount of travel, the iDrive isn't a super light system.

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    So are we ever gonna see real world pricing and actual delivery dates? Seems like GT had a huge jump in creating excitement and has now just about lost all of it. I haven't heard much about these recently and they seem to be falling off the radar quick!

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    been doing some digging on these bikes and guess what I found?! Demo day in Temecula, if you are around the area of Temecula, Ca in socal on the 4th of August...

    I posted a thread in the socal forum about the demo day but this popped up on my facebook this afternoon.

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    there was a GT demo day at el prieto here in LA. i went and road the new force. i am not lying why i say its the best all mountain bike or best all around socal bike that a rider could ask for. its my next bike.

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    I'm really wondering how well the Sensor climbs.

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    Re: 2014 GT Sensor and Force 27.5

    Quote Originally Posted by jazclrint View Post
    I'm really wondering how well the Sensor climbs.
    I dont doubt it'll climb just as well or better then previous sensors (I drive bikes in general).
    Still awaiting pricing though. Looking at a new rig and the yeyi 575 and ibis mojo SL/r are looking good right now

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    I rode the Sensor this past weekend, and had a blast on it. This was my first ride on a 650b, so I don't have anything to compare it to - but I liked the bike. Unlike a 29er, I didn't notice much difference between it and my current bike, a 2008 5.Spot. However, I cleaned a few technical climbs that I struggle with (and usually fail) on my 5.Spot. Once I got done with the climbing, it got really fun - it was much more confidence inspiring, and more fun, to ride on jumps, flowy trail sections, and on the chunk. It put a real nice grin on my face. That said, I thought the suspension looks pretty crazy, and I'd hesitate to pay top dollar for a design that I don't know much about - my fear would be creaking, more than anything else, as well as limited dealer/mechanic support.

    Again though, super fun.

    Also, I thought the wheel graphics were clever - thought they were Enve on first sight.

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