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    Just ordered my 2011 GT Karakoram 1.0 paid $950 for it including taxes and shipping from my lbs, if anyone thinks I over paid please let me know, maybe I can get them to come down in price a bit more, but I did check out a few 2012 models that they had sitting in the show room, I am so hype about this bike, can't wait.

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    I paid $850 for a 2012 1.0, but my LBS is often waaay cheaper than other places or online (dunno how they do it). I think $950 is a touch high for a 2011, but in your area that might be a very fair price.
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    Oh man!!! I will see if I can get an extra $50 off, that $950 includes them putting it together a year of tune ups and taxes. I hear is a great bike, not the lightest but it's strong and it won't crap out on me. I'm just ready to see it together. i'll post pics once my lbs gets it.

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    Anyone know the axle to crown measurement for the '11 Karakorams? (I am assuming that the measurement wouldn't change across 1.0 - 3.0)

    Thanks!

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    Winter's on the way and I'm getting muddy. Anyone put fenders on a Karakoram? Any guidance as to my options?

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    NinerNoob and swingset:

    Either of you have any other feedback on your bikes? Mine was ordered today and hopefully I will have it by Thursday. I can't wait to take advantage of the last few days of riding without having to bundle up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by appstaterider View Post
    NinerNoob and swingset:

    Either of you have any other feedback on your bikes? Mine was ordered today and hopefully I will have it by Thursday. I can't wait to take advantage of the last few days of riding without having to bundle up!
    I really like mine, it handles very well feels lighter than it is, has a quick turning response and is solid...glides over most obstacles with ease. I've done about 50 miles of trails so far, and haven't found anywhere the bike suffers except for stuff that's out of my abilities anyway...where a freeride or DH bike might be better.

    The components are all excellent, shifting is butter smooth and braking even more so. I did change out my bars and grips, but the saddle is perfect. Stock pedals are platforms, those were quickly ditched for some durable Shimano 520's ($34 from Amazon).

    The only thing I have negative to say about the bike whatsoever is the Alex rims aren't the most durable wheels on the planet...but this might really be an issue of being factory built rather than their durability. The first ride really knocked the hell out of them..wobbly mess and I was easy on them. I took the spokes nipples off, put anti-seize on them and greased the shoulders, brought it all up evenly to ride tension, and had my LBS finish the true/dish and so far they've been good...we'll see. But, you know, wheels are a wear item and I expect to replace them anyway.
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    Pedals - I switched out the pedals in the store for some really nasty big platform ones with screws (I think they are mainly used by downhill riders), just because I had a problem with crappy plastic pedals on a previous cheapo bike and didn't want to get stuck. The new ones are probably overkill and I could have kept the stock ones.

    Tyres - I put on some Maxxis CrossMark tyres recently which are OK, not amazing. I mainly commute with a Topeak MTX floating rack on the back which affects the handling a fair bit, but when I take the bike out on trails over the weekend without the rack it's a delight, handles really nicely.

    This was the first serious bike I purchased, so I mashed the gears like a newbie which made them click a bit - local bike shop sorted that for me - and I don't know anything about bike maintenance (learning as I go) so after a few months riding expect to need to tighten up headset/crank/other screws & bolts. If you're not a newbie, then you're probably giggling to yourself now...

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    Mine is at the Phoenix airport waiting to be delivered tomorrow. tick tick tick.

    Can someone please measure the axle to crown so I can shop for a new fork?! Also, has anyone went 1X8 (or 1X9) to lose a couple lbs? Tubeless?

    I'm excited.

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    you guys know if WTB Exiwolf Race 2.3 tires will fit on the Alex TD24 rims and will it have clearance?

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    I see no one else here has the cheaper Karakoram 3.0?

    I got to put a medium frame sized one through its paces on a 100km race and it sold me, got my own large frame one shortly after that.

    This is what mine looks like :


    Here is some pics of my 3.0 and me :





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    In a different post for the gt karakoran, a gt rep chime in saying the the chainstays allow up to 2.4, I have 2.2s and the only tight spot is in the front fork by the v brakes bosses (karakoram 3.0) if you have a disc only fork they should fit

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    Quote Originally Posted by rouxenator View Post
    I see no one else here has the cheaper Karakoram 3.0?

    I got to put a medium frame sized one through its paces on a 100km race and it sold me, got my own large frame one shortly after that.
    Yeah not too shabby. This year they put doublewall rims on the 3.0 as well, where the 2011 model had singlewall. Definitely an entry level ride, but the paint is sexy as hell for 2012

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    the black mamba is now in my garage. let the upgrade planning begin!

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    Had the 3.0 for a month and a bit now, already clocked up 320km with no bad luck at all. Loving it. I see thay now have an even more entry level 4.0 on their website.

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    I brought my 2012 Karakoram 1.0 home today! I had time to put about 12 trail miles on it and love it! I climbed hills today I never could on my 26" bike because of the roots. The 29er wheels roll over them like they aren't even there. I now know what "climbs like a mountain goat" really means. It was great in the turns, despite the leaves. I was able to manual surprisingly easy for drops and loved jumping this bike! This is my first experience with hydraulic brakes and they stop so well I almost almost washed out after nearly locking the front tire on the leaves. They took some getting used to after v-brakes. My first adjustment was letting some air out of the rear tire. The shop had about 45lbs in it and the ride was greatly improved after reducing it to about 30lbs. I can't wait to put some more miles on it tomorrow!!

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    Axle to crown on my 3.0 is 495 mm. I'm wondering if 465 mm would make it too twitchy? Anyone try to add the rigid Kona P2 29er fork?

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    fenders

    hey ninernoob i picked up the 2011 2.0 about a week ago, i have a set of topeak defender fenders that work well, there easy to move from bike to bike, picked them up on ebay for about 40 bucks for the set
    quick review, i've beet the daylights out of mine and so far no broken parts, only complaint is noisy brakes, but thats on the list of upgrades

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    Quote Originally Posted by appstaterider View Post
    I brought my 2012 Karakoram 1.0 home today! I had time to put about 12 trail miles on it and love it! I climbed hills today I never could on my 26" bike because of the roots. The 29er wheels roll over them like they aren't even there. I now know what "climbs like a mountain goat" really means. It was great in the turns, despite the leaves. I was able to manual surprisingly easy for drops and loved jumping this bike! This is my first experience with hydraulic brakes and they stop so well I almost almost washed out after nearly locking the front tire on the leaves. They took some getting used to after v-brakes. My first adjustment was letting some air out of the rear tire. The shop had about 45lbs in it and the ride was greatly improved after reducing it to about 30lbs. I can't wait to put some more miles on it tomorrow!!
    Tell me more about this bike, im getting one in a couple weeks, and want feedback :-D !!

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    Hi Dnebe,

    Do you recall if you got the M1/M2 set, the FX/RX set or the M3/M33?

    Thanks!

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    re: Noisy brakes (Dnebe mentions it) - I've spent a good couple of hours trying to get the front brakes to play nicely. Basically the brake disc is not uniform so it makes a ringing noise every revolution. You don't really hear it when riding, only when taking the bike inside when there's no ambient road noise. I spent housr trying to resolve as I assumed it was hitting the pads for some reason.

    Finally had a 3rd LBS look at it last week (whilst changing a puncture) - looks like the disk is too high in one area - not too wide so that it hits the pads, but rather hits the top of the piece that houses the pads. I guess I'll upgrade them at some point.

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    I got the m1/m2

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    Maiden voyage tomorrow. I bought this 3.0 at the fire sale at Blueskycycling.com and added BB7 mechanical discs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linoleum View Post
    Maiden voyage tomorrow. I bought this 3.0 at the fire sale at Blueskycycling.com and added BB7 mechanical discs.
    I have the same setup and I really like it.

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    Ride report.....

    Immediately rode up some somewhat rocky climbs, really does well... surprisingly the front end is very light when seated and peddling hard... lots of traction. Flowy singletrack this bike really shines, as it was my first time riding a 29er... I felt it was pretty lively and not cumbersome pitching it around the trail.

    Then we rode some VERY rocky Arizona singletrack. The low end wheelset on the 3.0 is not confidence inspiring at all. The larger diameter rims lessened the shock to hands and forearms, but the squirmed and wallowed when the going got rough. As I got tired mid-ride the vague handling only got worse, not a great experience.

    IMHO, as it sits in stock, the Karakoram 3.0 is an excellent trail runner and you really donīt feel all that weight. When its rough, not so much fun and I wonīt be returning to that trail until I can afford a better wheelset.

    Nothing here you didnīt already know given the price point ($375) + ($100 mechanical discs), Iḿ excited to get her out on another ride, albeit a gentler trail.

    R.

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    Nice action shots man and they are a great bike for the price for sure!

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    What's up everyone! I just purchased a GT Karakoram 2.0 yesterday from Performance Bike for $499.99. I've been waiting for a month for the price to get low and it finally did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinerNoob View Post
    I'm riding the 2.0 daily to work, clocking up about 100km a week. I stick in the middle front gear all the time.

    I've found that when I push major force on the 8-9 gears that there is quite significant chain skip. I've already had it back in the store and they said my rear derailleur hanger was bent and straightened it out. But reading up online, it seems that cable tension is one of the key culprits.

    I'm trying to figure out if it's a shoddy part that needs changing, or if it's just a setup tweak i need to have made.

    Anyone had similar issues with the 2.0?
    I have a similar issue, when dropping down to the granny gear. the chain always gets caught in the rear derailleur, and pedalling comes ot a complete halt.
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    Has anyone tried putting the Kona P2 29er rigid fork on their Karakoram 3.0? Too steep?

    It has a 465 mm axle to crown measurement... wondering if that is a proper replacement for the cheapo 100mm Suntour fork that came OEM on the 3.0.

    Smoking deal $29.99 on Bikeman.com right now.........

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    Ride report: So, I threw down the 30 bucks for the Kona fork, because I didn't like the Suntour OEM fork. The BEST investment I've made to date. This was my first 29er and I felt it handled a bit slow and this fork has really improved the feel on the trail. The handling feels the same as my 26er, with the only negative is the lower bottom bracket height.... I had a few peddle strikes thru the rock gardens. All in all, I'm happy about dropping 3 or so lbs and the faster handling. I'll post a few pics so you can see what it looks like on the bike.
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    It looks great Linoleum. Does anybody know if GT will ever make a karakoram in steel anymore? Or should I just hunt down older frames?

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    given how poorly the peace was received, I think a steel Karakoram would need some serious muscle behind it to make it happen.

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    like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttthai View Post
    It looks great Linoleum. Does anybody know if GT will ever make a karakoram in steel anymore? Or should I just hunt down older frames?
    Steel Karakorams are long gone...but something new is brewing...

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    That 3.0 looks good!
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    I like your purple one better :-)

    So you gusy are brewing bamboo Karakoram? Come on, spill the beans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombinate View Post
    given how poorly the peace was received, I think a steel Karakoram would need some serious muscle behind it to make it happen.
    I absolutely loved my Peace 9r. The steel felt great. New wheels, shorter stem, longer bars and the bike felt perfect to me. The Karkoram looks fantastic, but I would be much more interested in it if there were a steel version. I sold my Peace because I needed the money, and immediately missed it.
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    I have mine set up single speed now. I need a new fork that dart is not any good IMHO put a set of magic 719 with hope hubs on and SRAM stylo cranks and juicy seven brakes with a short stem and 29" bars. Rides pretty well. Only thing still stock is the fork and frame and headset.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LilJr View Post
    I absolutely loved my Peace 9r. The steel felt great. New wheels, shorter stem, longer bars and the bike felt perfect to me. The Karkoram looks fantastic, but I would be much more interested in it if there were a steel version. I sold my Peace because I needed the money, and immediately missed it.
    Oh, the Peace were fine bikes, but were always the last out the door at the shop I worked for. Any bike that needs to be marked down once or twice before it will move is not going to be re-ordered by shops, such is the fate of the Peace.

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    Hi im looking at a 2011 GT KARAKORAM 2.0 does anyone know what the ROCKSHOX DART 3 is like is it any good thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwinnguy74 View Post
    Hi im looking at a 2011 GT KARAKORAM 2.0 does anyone know what the ROCKSHOX DART 3 is like is it any good thanks.
    RockShox Dart 3 2010 Forks Reviews
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    2011 GT Karakoram 3.0

    As Linoleum expressed, the wheelset hinders this bike. Overall, great entry level bike and with some upgrades could be matched with some of the more expensive bikes.

    Can't argue with the initial price of the bike too. It was a steal...

    Upgraded the brake setup to BB7s and SD7 levers.
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    The dart sucks!! I blew it up in less the 10 rides and now I have a 5lb rigid fork.


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    Would have made a thread about this, but it's my first post.

    What is a fair price on a 2012 karkoram 3.0? My lbs has some for $625, I see the mrsp is only 10 more bucks. Should I try to get a better deal or that a pretty good deal?

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    I don't know if anyone noticed it... but Karakoram has the SAME geometry of Zaskar 9r

    Even better, the ZeroStack headset means that you could put a tapered Fork on the frame with only a headset change (CaneCreek). And overall it's a more reinforced frame, with just a little weight penalty compared to Zaskar 9r.

    Hey! I don't like the new Avalanche's, or any bike that routes cables under the bike (prone to rocks and breakage). I hope that GT do not attempt to update the current Karakoram 9r.
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    I have a GT Karakorum 3.0 from 2011. I love the black color that's why I got it. Well my question iis what upgrades should I get first. I what an external bearing crank and shift components. I just don't know what sizes to buy. Can you or anybody help ? I also found a set of 29erthe RocRockshox Reba forks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxter713 View Post
    I have a GT Karakorum 3.0 from 2011. I love the black color that's why I got it. Well my question iis what upgrades should I get first. I what an external bearing crank and shift components. I just don't know what sizes to buy. Can you or anybody help ? I also found a set of 29erthe RocRockshox Reba forks.
    honestly the first thing I would upgrade would be the wheels. The rims are single wall, and while the drivetrain is in no way sexy, it is capable in the short term. Better, ride it until things break, then do upgrades to replace them.

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    How do you guys feel about the current Karakoram 1.0? I'm looking to get a decent HT 29er and this is one I'm considering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonMX5 View Post
    How do you guys feel about the current Karakoram 1.0? I'm looking to get a decent HT 29er and this is one I'm considering.
    Read my review earlier in the thread, I have 2012 1.0, love it.
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    I just ordered the 2012 GT Karakoram 1.0. I pick it up Tuesday. This will be my first bike and according to what I've read, it should be pretty good. I'll post back after I've had some time to ride it.

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