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    Listen! Tulsa-ok Area Riders

    ANY TULSA-OK AREA RIDERS IN HERE?

    Im just getting back in the saddle from a bad spill 2 years ago on Turkey Mtn. Currently trying to get the bike sorted out & ready to hit the trails. Anyone been out to Turkey this season? Are there anymore trails other than Keystone & Turkey in the area?

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    I live 4.5 hours away from Tulsa. We rode Turkey last weekend. F'in awesome! Good guys down there...well, the 2 I rode with.
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    Yeah, Turkey is a lot of fun. There is a smaller ring of trails about 30 min west of Turkey, its by the Keystone dam. I havent rode there or anywhere in 2 years. but back then Keystone was ok. I'll have to check it out & let you know. After I get some mountain time back in the saddle, maybe we can meet up & ride. Any good trails in your area? I normally ride w/ a couple of friends & we are looking to expand our trail experience.

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    I'm going to go check out Keystone tomorrow to see what shape its in. If its favorable, there is a group coming from the OKC area Sunday morning that I'll hook up with since I've never even been there and I'm sure they have. If not I'll ride at Turkey for a few hours on Sunday b/c I know it drains pretty fast. check out the message board at http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/earthbike/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiefab
    I'm going to go check out Keystone tomorrow to see what shape its in. If its favorable, there is a group coming from the OKC area Sunday morning that I'll hook up with since I've never even been there and I'm sure they have. If not I'll ride at Turkey for a few hours on Sunday b/c I know it drains pretty fast. check out the message board at http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/earthbike/
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    awesome. all the trails around here are perfect right now. At least a lot better than the bone-dry and dusty like they've been all winter.

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    Turkey is still great, Keystone has a very good set of trails. Try Lake McMurtrey at Stillwater. Not nearly as technical, actually not at all compared to Keystone and Turkey, but very fun and fast. You can log a lot of miles as well, about 28 miles of trails, 4 seperate loops. You have to pay a use fee, but well worth it.

    There are also some trails if you know where to find them, coming out of Chandler park, mostly 4wd trails, but there are several places that are pretty fun, and some gnarly, but short, downhill sections, I like them because i can leave the house on the bike and be on those trails in about 3 minutes.

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    anybody tried the Osage in Bville

    heard the osage in bartlesville is nice. anybody ridden it yet?

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    Yup, I ride Turkey every weekend, pending weather, and that I am not injured, or my bike isn't toast. I usually only ride Turkey. Keystone blows chunks to me. Not worth the drive for short trails. I'd rather drive to STW for a McMurtury ride if I am going to leave the Tulsa metro area. Other than that, I haven't gotton a chance to venture out anywhere else yet. I am going to try to hit all the race trails from the TDD series next spring summer, then hopefully race the year after that.
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    Thought i would revive the Oklahoma forum, since there aren't many OK posts.

    I just rode Lake Murrary in Ardmore last weekend and it was much better than i expected. Has a few borderline freeride areas with some 6 foot vertical drops, a few obstacles, etc. Overall a really nice trail. The local boy scout troop builds bridges for their eagle scout projects. Seven really nice bridges on the trail.
    I've never ridden turkey, but plan on it next time i'm in tulsa. Ridding Lake McMurtury for the first time in two weeks.

    I live in Idabel.Trails are few and far between down here, but the womble is pretty close, though
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    Quote Originally Posted by beer weasel
    Thought i would revive the Oklahoma forum, since there aren't many OK posts.

    I just rode Lake Murrary in Ardmore last weekend and it was much better than i expected. Has a few borderline freeride areas with some 6 foot vertical drops, a few obstacles, etc. Overall a really nice trail. The local boy scout troop builds bridges for their eagle scout projects. Seven really nice bridges on the trail.
    I've never ridden turkey, but plan on it next time i'm in tulsa. Ridding Lake McMurtury for the first time in two weeks.

    I live in Idabel.Trails are few and far between down here, but the womble is pretty close, though
    Anyway, just thought i would get a little oklahoma chat going again.
    Props on getting the OK chat going. I just joined not too long ago, just for a wheelset question, and then figured why not join another forum, and stay on it. Forums seem to be running my online life, but owell, knowledge is power.

    So you live in Idabel? I live in Tulsa, so I get the luxury of being only a short drive from Turkey. About 8 min away to be exact. Let me tell you, from what I hear and what I've experienced (I've only ridden Turkey, Keystone, and McMurtry) , Turkey is the most technical trail in the state, if not in the region too. But my trail experience on different trails is limited to those three trails as you just read. McMurtry is a dream. Relaxing and fast, or slow and technical, depending upon what you want from it. Very few technical areas compared to the likes of Turkey.

    I just mapped out Idabel, and Ardmore, and d*mn, Ardmore is far from Tulsa. I just drove past it on I-35 S on my way to Austin last week. And heck, Idabel is even further from here it seems like. Never been down your way, but my bro rode some trails at Beaver Bend State Park (I think) a while ago. I am guessing they are pretty weak though, as his wife and kids rode too.

    Sorry you live so far from good trail areas. Go here if you didn't know about this site for OK trail info (http://www.okearthbike.com/). There you will find a listing for trails in OK as well as other useful info.

    And here is the TdD Series info (trails that the series is raced on) go here: http://www.okearthbike.com/tdd2006.html.

    For info on Turkey, go here: http://www.okearthbike.com/Trail_Pages/turkey.html.

    For info on McMurtry, go here: http://www.osucycle.com/. And for more info on the trails at McMurtry and how to get to them, go here: http://www.reddirtpedalers.com/MtnBikeRace/index06.asp.

    With McMurtry, you have two trails on each the east and west sides of the lake, four total trails. But the catch is that there is at least a 5 mile ride/drive in between them.... on gravel. No shortcuts unfortunately. Only on gravel "city" roads to get to the other two trails. I usually will ride one or both on one side, do a fast load up, and drive to the other side, to ride the other one or both trails. Trail info to keep in mind: Daily Mountain Bike Fee of $5 per vehicle with two bikes (you can purchase this at a ranger station and there is one on each side). All bicyclists MUST wear a helmet. No beer or alcoholic beverages allowed. All pets must be on a leash. Trails are multi-use, so be aware of hikers.

    And be careful of deer too, lol. I had a run in with one last time I went. Oh, and it is also a very snake prone environment too. My trail ratings from difficult to easy are as follows: Red (NE), Green (NW), Yellow (SW), Orange (SE). The red is too hard for me (the drops into the creek beds are too steep for me), Green is almost completely rideable (I have to dismount 5-10 times), Yellow is rideable (I have to dismount less than 5 times), and the Orange is for beginners (no dismounting needed by me) or if you just want some ease and speed.

    T-Town has maps too: http://www.t-townbicycles.com/Maps03.htm

    I planned on getting out this last summer and traveling more, say to TdD series trails, or the Womble, etc., but I just got engaged (last week) and bought a house (in Feb of this year), so my priorities got rearranged this year.

    I really don't ride much past Oct, but post up in here or shoot me a PM if and when you come up to Tulsa for Turkey, maybe I'll join you, or my bro will. I am getting ready to install these parts: Mavic Enduros disc/UST wheelset, XTR front derailleur, XTR cassette, and some new XTR shifter cables. Soon it will be as if I am on a brand new bike.

    I hope any or all that info helps you since you will be making a long drive up this way to ride those two trails, and if not, sorry I just wasted your time ready all ths I typed.



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    We rode clearbay, at lake Thunderbird east of Norman this summer in the midst of the heat, so the sand was very loose (and there is a lot of sand) but it should be perfect now with the rain we have had go through. Beerweasel, that is a lot closer to you. It is fast, has some fun manmade stuff and some technical spots. Also, bluff creek, right below the dam at lake hefner is fun. It is short, but like a little roller coaster going in and out of the creek bottom there. Also, go ride the 12 moh course at Ft. Sill. Just have to be careful during hunting season. I think they actually shut it down while the special seasons out there are going on. You can call ahead and see if it is open for riding, but I don't know the number. I have only ridden it during race weekends.

    As far as technical trails go, if you can ride well at Turkey, in my limited experience, you won't have trouble riding anywhere. I haven't been a lot of otherplaces, but I have never been more challenged technically anywhere than Turkey Mtn.

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    thanks osualum, I only make it up to tulsa a few times a year (and last time i brought my bike it rained the entire weekend) but i'll definately give you a shout when we head that way. It's not too far, about 3 hours. Turkey sounds BA. Thanks for the maps too, man. I was considering giving the TdD a shot next year in the beginner class, but wanted to ride all the trails in it this winter. Congrats on the engagement!! Nice parts list, too.

    We have one new trail at Beaver's Bend that was built on the lake last year. It's an 8 mile. Very fast, not very technical. Nice views of the lake and the climbs make for a great work out. Other than that, i get very used to driving. Earthquake at Mena, Ark., lots of trails at Hot Springs, Ark, and Talimena drive trails are all pretty close. Planning a late Nov. womble trip, its about two hours away.

    My brother and most of my friends are in OKC (idabel is tiny) so we make the drive about every other weekend. NuDraper is awesome and i like bluff creek too. Was tempted to ride clearbay about a month ago, but kept hearing sand horror stories.

    I'm pumped about riding mcmurtury nov 12. I finally got my brother into serious riding and showed him the value of a nice bike, so he bought by comp and i just ordered a 07 stumpy expert. mcmurtury should break it in nicely.

    SouthDakSooner, how's the riding up there? I know you guys don't have many hills or anything like mountainous Oklahoma

    It's nice to have a real OK forum going!
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    Nevermind, SoDakSooner, I was thinking SoDak=South Dakota. But i see you live in Tulsa. Haha. Am i slightly hungover this morning?
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    Yeah, Turkey mountain is a great place to ride, a little of everything. The osage hills trail is pretty good, a little more challenging than I expected. I've ridden it twice, The first time shortly after a race/rain, so it was pretty torn up. And again a month later, when it was in better shape. Greenleaf can be pretty tough, too.

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    Greenleaf is another one I was wanting to hit before it gets ball-freezing cold. Anybody know how far it is from Muskogee? I was thinking it was like 30 minutes, but wasn't sure.
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    I am from tulsa as well. I am currently building a trail between yale and hardvard off of 71st. Will post more when finished.
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    Greenleaf is probably a little more than 30 minutes from Muscogee, but not much, I think. For sure, the primitive loop gets a lot harder to follow in the fall with the leaves down. Maybe the trail is marked better now. One thing, make sure you allow yourself plenty of time if your doing both loops, as it's easy to run out of light before finishing the trail.

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    Actually there is some good riding in SD, If you like to climb, it is a great place to go. I only climb so I can come down. I have ridden bits and pieces of the centennial trail on the north end. The bulldog section is an a## kicker, especially with a hangover. Lots of good stuff in the black hills though.

    I do live in the Tulsa area (sand springs to be exact) Normally ride turkey every weekend, but hurt my knee out there at the beginning of sept, and in the process of getting it fixed. Took a corner too fast on the yellow and bike went off the edge. Luckily I stayed on the trail, but bounced the knee off the edge of a rock. You know it hurts when you feel like puking after you hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoDakSooner
    We rode clearbay, at lake Thunderbird east of Norman this summer in the midst of the heat, so the sand was very loose (and there is a lot of sand) but it should be perfect now with the rain we have had go through. Beerweasel, that is a lot closer to you. It is fast, has some fun manmade stuff and some technical spots. Also, bluff creek, right below the dam at lake hefner is fun. It is short, but like a little roller coaster going in and out of the creek bottom there. Also, go ride the 12 moh course at Ft. Sill. Just have to be careful during hunting season. I think they actually shut it down while the special seasons out there are going on. You can call ahead and see if it is open for riding, but I don't know the number. I have only ridden it during race weekends.

    As far as technical trails go, if you can ride well at Turkey, in my limited experience, you won't have trouble riding anywhere. I haven't been a lot of otherplaces, but I have never been more challenged technically anywhere than Turkey Mtn.
    So sandy there at Clearbay, huh? Well thanks for the info, as I will be better prepared for my travel down there next year. I ride on an "all season" tire, Hutch Pythons, so I think they will be okay for sand use too. I am used to rocks and roots from Turkey. I've never heard of Bluff Creek. Any maps or directions? I don't know the OKC area very well. I've heard horror stories about the 12 MOH race, I couldn't imagine not racing it would be too much easier. Lawton is on my list of too far to travel, for pleasure or race rides, as in the TdD Series, you only need to hit these requirements to qualify for the points race: "A racer’s best 7 NORBA sanctioned TdD races will count for year end series awards. Racers must participate in at least 5 NORBA sanctioned TdD races to be considered for year end awards. A DNF (Does Not Finish) does count as race participation if it's needed to meet the minimum race requirement." And I don't think 12 MOH is a NORBA sanctioned race. If I race next year, I would be in Beginner Senior, as you really can't downgrade your race category level. And no, I haven't mastered Tuurkey yet. Everyday, I praise God that I don't end up in the hospital from riding there. Last outing with my bro, I warped my rear rim way bad, had to install a tube to ride out, and my bro broke his derailleur hanger which broke his derailleur, chain, and shift cable. He got all pissed, as well did I about my wheel for a split second...... but then I think about other plausible scenarios that can easily happen: broken arms, broken legs, broken collar bones, broken neck, etc., and remember as long as I don't end up in the hospital, it was a successful ride. So far my worst from Turkey is a fractured sternum and a cracked helmet
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    thanks osualum No problem, I only make it up to tulsa a few times a year (and last time i brought my bike it rained the entire weekend) but i'll definately give you a shout when we head that way Cool. It's not too far, about 3 hours. Turkey sounds BA It is if you like slow technical garbage. Thanks for the maps too, man No problem, TTown has some maps of Turkey, but no maps really help out there. It is just best to ride with someone a few times till you get enough confidence you won't get lost out there by yourself. I was considering giving the TdD a shot next year in the beginner class, but wanted to ride all the trails in it this winter I wanted to do the TdD this year, but couldn't. I would ride Beginner Senior to start. I want to ride all the race trails before I race in the series too, but I don't winter ride. I hit the weights for winter time.. Congrats on the engagement!! Nice parts list, too.Thanks on the congrats. Nice parts list? Yeah thats not all in my parts list. I can only classify my bike as a dream to ride on.

    We have one new trail at Beaver's Bend that was built on the lake last year. It's an 8 mile. Very fast, not very technical. Nice views of the lake and the climbs make for a great work out. Other than that, i get very used to driving. Earthquake at Mena, Ark., lots of trails at Hot Springs, Ark, and Talimena drive trails are all pretty close. Planning a late Nov. womble trip, its about two hours away.

    My brother and most of my friends are in OKC (idabel is tiny) so we make the drive about every other weekend. NuDraper is awesome and i like bluff creek too. Was tempted to ride clearbay about a month ago, but kept hearing sand horror stories.

    I'm pumped about riding mcmurtury nov 12. I finally got my brother into serious riding and showed him the value of a nice bike, so he bought by comp and i just ordered a 07 stumpy expert. mcmurtury should break it in nicely. Actually McMurtry won't do too much breaking in of your new "not-so-Specialized" bikes, but it will give you the opportunity to get familiar and comfortable with your bike without having a fear of a trip to the ER. Oh, and sorry for the crack about your Specialized, I am not a fan of them. Nor Cannondales, or as I call l them "Crackandfails". I am a fan of buying what you want because you want it, not because some sales guy pressured into thinking it is the best thing for you, which I see all to often. Hence why all my parts are custom hand picked by me. I am not a fan of buying a complete bike ready to ride from these retail stores. Now, I know, that buying a complete bike is a cheap way to get into the sport, but when you got the money to custom build, why do buy a premade bike? For most, they don't have the money. Understandable. But for the other 75%, they buy what they think is cool, or the "in thing" at that time. It really irks me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so use it. Be an individual. I am not stating that iis you or your bro, or anyone else on here, just my observation of what I see in the sport.

    SouthDakSooner, how's the riding up there? I know you guys don't have many hills or anything like mountainous Oklahoma

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    Getting my bike back together tonight, if Jenson shipped my chainwhip. Hitting Turkey tomorrow morning with my bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by beer weasel
    Greenleaf is another one I was wanting to hit before it gets ball-freezing cold. Anybody know how far it is from Muskogee? I was thinking it was like 30 minutes, but wasn't sure.
    Just S of Braggs. Watch your speed around there. They like to pull over unknown vehicles. My fiance is from just S of Braggs, a town called Gore. I drive thru/past Greenleaf to get to her rents house there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrwscrnnms
    I am from tulsa as well. I am currently building a trail between yale and hardvard off of 71st. Will post more when finished.
    Huh? Exactly where? I live off of 83rd Street, which is off of Harvard, just S of 81st, behind what used to be a MedEx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoDakSooner
    Actually there is some good riding in SD, If you like to climb, it is a great place to go. I only climb so I can come down. I have ridden bits and pieces of the centennial trail on the north end. The bulldog section is an a## kicker, especially with a hangover. Lots of good stuff in the black hills though.

    I do live in the Tulsa area (sand springs to be exact) Normally ride turkey every weekend, but hurt my knee out there at the beginning of sept, and in the process of getting it fixed. Took a corner too fast on the yellow and bike went off the edge. Luckily I stayed on the trail, but bounced the knee off the edge of a rock. You know it hurts when you feel like puking after you hit.

    That sucks dude. I've been out waiting on parts. Be back tomorrow morning though. I usally start my ride there wanting to puke, and have done so in the parking lot a few times.

    I usually ride Yellow trail for warm up, and I will do the Fairydust for technical skill training
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    I ride fairydust quite a bit. fun trail. We ride red for a warmup, then will take lochi out and back, then yellow out, then wherever the mood takes me after that. My riding buddy has been bitten by the motocross bug, so haven't been getting out much for that reason as well.

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    I'm going to school at OSU in Stillwater, but I haven't made it out to McMurtry yet. It's on my 'to do' list...after I get a bike again.

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    Anybody else ride Turkey today (Saturday)? Had to be the most perfect combination of weather and trail conditions since I moved here 8 years ago. I was there from 10am-2pm. Could have spent at least another hour if it weren't for familiy duties. If you missed it, Sunday is supposed to be great, too.

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    Theres a park in that neighborhood that had a trail started but never finished...I will release the exact location when its lookin decent
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    Didn't ride Turkey, but did get out and pedal around town trying to loosen up the knee. Took a few good drops to flat (for me that's about 3 ft) and it felt good. Wanted to get out to Turkey but didn't have time. Did get 11 miles in around Sand Springs in just a little over an hour. Hope to be back out on the trails next weekend.

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    any of you guys ever play on the stunts out there or are you more cross country that downhill or freeride

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    I ride by them a lot Most are too big for me as well as my bike. There is some nasty stuff back there....at least to me. Wish I had the guts to hit some of that stuff.

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    I'm in Tyler, Tx, about 1 1/2 hours south of idabel. I ride dirtbikes in the clayton/pickens area pretty regularly. With all that public land unused (except for logging and hunting), there could be some epic trails in the area....there just aren't any recreation oriented people around there. I'd like to take a long weekend and ride the hot springs area and head up to womble from there. I'm 3 hours from hot springs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yater
    I'm in Tyler, Tx, about 1 1/2 hours south of idabel. I ride dirtbikes in the clayton/pickens area pretty regularly. With all that public land unused (except for logging and hunting), there could be some epic trails in the area....there just aren't any recreation oriented people around there. I'd like to take a long weekend and ride the hot springs area and head up to womble from there. I'm 3 hours from hot springs.

    yater, how are the trails in tyler state park? The techs at plano cycling said they were some of the best in texas. I'd love to hit them up sometime. Hot springs has some really nice stuff, well maintained with beautiful views.

    You're right about the public land in McCurtain County. Mucho forest land that rolls and begs for trails to be put on it. I've been talking with our state senator about adding 10 miles to the existing trail in Beavers Bend. Arrowhead Trails Inc (who built it) already planned to add more to it at a later date. I hope we can get it done soon. Yes, and there aren't any recreation oriented people around here. I have gotten two roadies into mtb'ing in the last year, but that's really it for the cycling culture in the area. If you're riding around battiest/pickens, most are methamphetamine oriented. That is the back woods of the back woods, but beautiful scenery. There are some good people up there, though.

    The womble is about an hour and 45 minutes from me. We're heading over there for the weekend Nov. 24-25. Ouachita cycling is planning a big group ride that weekend. should be nice. Anybody wanna join us?

    Yater, PM me and next time your up this way we'll ride.
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    Tyler state park is a great trail but I ride it about 3 times a week so I like to get out of town for the weekends. I also have a road bike but don't consider myself a roadie (I use MTB pedals on my bianchi....GASP!). I've been thinking about a multi-day camping ride somewhere between southeast Ok and southwest Ar. We've done similar and have bushwacked trails on the dirtbikes (when lost)....there is a lot of potential out there for freeriding (no trails) or trailbuilding. I'm waiting on my new anthem to get here and I'd like to get up there and ride in the next few weeks and months. I'll be looking for a long weekend to ride near hot springs and womble in one fell swoop.

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    Hey guys, i just joined these forums about a week ago. I live down here in Ardmore. The Lake Murry trails are literately right in my backyard. My friend and i ride them about 3 times a week. Is anybody planning on rideing the 12MOH this coming year? Anyway its nice to see some fellow okies on here. If any of yall are coming down to Ardmore for a ride give me a shout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nohook__90
    Hey guys, i just joined these forums about a week ago. I live down here in Ardmore. The Lake Murry trails are literately right in my backyard. My friend and i ride them about 3 times a week. Is anybody planning on rideing the 12MOH this coming year? Anyway its nice to see some fellow okies on here. If any of yall are coming down to Ardmore for a ride give me a shout.
    I rode Lake Murray for the first time a month ago. It was a great ride, you guys have a hell of a scout troup there. I love the idea of the eagle scouts building a new bridge every year. After seeing how much the bridges added to the trail, I started talking to my local scout troop about improving our trail.

    One of my buddies is the sales manager at Toyota of Ardmore and we head down there fairly often. I was also really impressed with the LBS there, too. I talked to the owner for an hour last time i was there. He's a great advocate for local cycling and showed me the plans for the new skate/bmx park the city is building. Also gave me a detailed trail map of Lake Murray, which was very helpful.

    I'd really like to hit Bar H in St. Jo next time I'm in Ardmore.

    I PM you next time we head over that way.
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    i got my new bike from a shop in sherman, all the folks there said Bar H is a good ride. Will probly try and get down there soon since its only about 30 min from here.

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    If anyone is interested in a december multi-day run, I have a route picked out from broken bow lake to mena, arkansas. I'll likely take 4 days to do the loop (round trip) and will stay the first night at Gillham lake and the second in Mena (pizza and hot shower). The return trip will head west into oklahoma and then south so there will be no backtracking. There will be 2 nights of bush camping and one motel night in mena. Daily mileage should be ~50 if all goes as planned. In the future, I can probably cut it down to 2 days but I want to leave plenty of time to get lost the first time. If anyone is interested, let me know. This will be 95% gravel.....we could even throw in some single track near mena or broken bow if interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yater
    If anyone is interested in a december multi-day run, I have a route picked out from broken bow lake to mena, arkansas. I'll likely take 4 days to do the loop (round trip) and will stay the first night at Gillham lake and the second in Mena (pizza and hot shower). The return trip will head west into oklahoma and then south so there will be no backtracking. There will be 2 nights of bush camping and one motel night in mena. Daily mileage should be ~50 if all goes as planned. In the future, I can probably cut it down to 2 days but I want to leave plenty of time to get lost the first time. If anyone is interested, let me know. This will be 95% gravel.....we could even throw in some single track near mena or broken bow if interested.
    I live in Idabel (7 miles from Broken Bow) and will definately hit the singletrack here and in Mena with you. Both trails are really nice and in great shape. Your camping should be perfect right now with the way the weather has been. We rode the womble last weekend, peeled our warmers within two minutes of riding, and did a little sweating in late November.
    When were you thinking of going?
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    I'm not set on a date yet....I'll be watching the weather. It'll be sometime after the 1st week of december. It looks like the first cool weather is coming through this week. Ideally, I'll pick a weekend of highs in the 50s-60s and lows in the 30s. Is it alright to leave a car at broken bow lake for the weekend? Is there a warden out there or is it a free-for-all?

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    The park is very well patrolled. I would park at the state lodge (Lakeview Lodge in the Steven's Gap area) there is a ranger there 24-7 and there are lots of people coming and going. Also, the trailhead is about 100 feet from the parking lot You could start on the Lakeview Lodge trail, which you could loop, or get off at Carson Creek Road, which will take you to US259 or many three rivers wildlife management area roads.
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    Turkey Mtn condition 12/26?

    Anyone ride on Christmas day? I'm considering riding tomorrow (12/26), but wonder how quickly it dries. I'm a native Tulsa here for the Holidays and am looking forward to riding Turkey for the first time since about 1993 and on something other than a rigid bike!

    Thanks in advance for any trail reports...

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    Welcome Home!!

    Wow!! I started riding up at Turkey in 93. You are going to be amazed at all the new trails. I rode on the 24th and it was tackey. We got quite a bit of rain Christmas Eve. It will be muddy in places but Turkey dries very fast. I would give it a shot but if it is really muddy, to the point of leaving a bunch of ruts, have a nice ride on the bike paths.

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    So did you ride today?

    I was at Turkey from noon to 3 and didn't see any Tennessee license plates or anybody riding a Diamond Back or a Salsa.

    Well, if you did ride then you know that the trails are in pretty good shape except for a few mud holes on the south trails and the new Indian Cultural Center construction which has laid a smooth gravel path almost all the way to the entrance to Lo-Chi. Unfortunately it stops 20 yards short and it's a muddy slog right now to get to the entrance.

    Anybody know how many trails we're going to lose with this construction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiefab
    Anybody know how many trails we're going to lose with this construction?

    From what I understand, we are going to lose all the trails South of the lower parking lot from Elwood down to the River. Those trails we are losing are going to be replaced with a cement path which will be wheelchair accessibe and it will surround the whole Indian Center. As for the trails around lower area North of where the Indian center thing is going, I have no idea.

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    Great. Those south trails are not only a big part of the racing course, they're some of the best tight, technical singletrack I've seen in 4 states. We're sure to loose the southernmost branch which has the toughest rideable climb I've ever seen. It's right after the dry rock riverbed. I can count on two hands the number of times I've managed to clean that mother.

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    Rode yesterday afternoon, some muddy spots. Horses have done some damage as well. Didn't hit lo-chi for the exact reason stated above, mud where the new road is going... It will stink to lose those lower trails. Hopefully some will remain. I am amazed that they are actually doing some construction. I was under the impression that they were a long ways off in fundraising for the cultural center. Maybe I was wrong.

    Hope it takes a while to get it built...........

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    I got there at about 3pm and rode until about 4:45. Great stuff! I didn't try any lower trails, but I'm headed back out there now, so may try that. I, too, found the trails to be in very good shape with just the few mud holes.

    Enjoy...

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    I was out at Turkey earlier today and you know what I saw? Yep, another guy hiking around in lofers, slacks and a dress shirt. Hopefully once the Indian Center is finished the police will start making more rounds at Turkey and run all of the gays out. I am so sick of seeing those predators out there!

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