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    Listen! Tulsa-ok Area Riders

    ANY TULSA-OK AREA RIDERS IN HERE?

    Im just getting back in the saddle from a bad spill 2 years ago on Turkey Mtn. Currently trying to get the bike sorted out & ready to hit the trails. Anyone been out to Turkey this season? Are there anymore trails other than Keystone & Turkey in the area?

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    I live 4.5 hours away from Tulsa. We rode Turkey last weekend. F'in awesome! Good guys down there...well, the 2 I rode with.
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    Yeah, Turkey is a lot of fun. There is a smaller ring of trails about 30 min west of Turkey, its by the Keystone dam. I havent rode there or anywhere in 2 years. but back then Keystone was ok. I'll have to check it out & let you know. After I get some mountain time back in the saddle, maybe we can meet up & ride. Any good trails in your area? I normally ride w/ a couple of friends & we are looking to expand our trail experience.

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    I'm going to go check out Keystone tomorrow to see what shape its in. If its favorable, there is a group coming from the OKC area Sunday morning that I'll hook up with since I've never even been there and I'm sure they have. If not I'll ride at Turkey for a few hours on Sunday b/c I know it drains pretty fast. check out the message board at http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/earthbike/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiefab
    I'm going to go check out Keystone tomorrow to see what shape its in. If its favorable, there is a group coming from the OKC area Sunday morning that I'll hook up with since I've never even been there and I'm sure they have. If not I'll ride at Turkey for a few hours on Sunday b/c I know it drains pretty fast. check out the message board at http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/earthbike/
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    awesome. all the trails around here are perfect right now. At least a lot better than the bone-dry and dusty like they've been all winter.

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    Turkey is still great, Keystone has a very good set of trails. Try Lake McMurtrey at Stillwater. Not nearly as technical, actually not at all compared to Keystone and Turkey, but very fun and fast. You can log a lot of miles as well, about 28 miles of trails, 4 seperate loops. You have to pay a use fee, but well worth it.

    There are also some trails if you know where to find them, coming out of Chandler park, mostly 4wd trails, but there are several places that are pretty fun, and some gnarly, but short, downhill sections, I like them because i can leave the house on the bike and be on those trails in about 3 minutes.

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    anybody tried the Osage in Bville

    heard the osage in bartlesville is nice. anybody ridden it yet?

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    Yup, I ride Turkey every weekend, pending weather, and that I am not injured, or my bike isn't toast. I usually only ride Turkey. Keystone blows chunks to me. Not worth the drive for short trails. I'd rather drive to STW for a McMurtury ride if I am going to leave the Tulsa metro area. Other than that, I haven't gotton a chance to venture out anywhere else yet. I am going to try to hit all the race trails from the TDD series next spring summer, then hopefully race the year after that.
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    Thought i would revive the Oklahoma forum, since there aren't many OK posts.

    I just rode Lake Murrary in Ardmore last weekend and it was much better than i expected. Has a few borderline freeride areas with some 6 foot vertical drops, a few obstacles, etc. Overall a really nice trail. The local boy scout troop builds bridges for their eagle scout projects. Seven really nice bridges on the trail.
    I've never ridden turkey, but plan on it next time i'm in tulsa. Ridding Lake McMurtury for the first time in two weeks.

    I live in Idabel.Trails are few and far between down here, but the womble is pretty close, though
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    Quote Originally Posted by beer weasel
    Thought i would revive the Oklahoma forum, since there aren't many OK posts.

    I just rode Lake Murrary in Ardmore last weekend and it was much better than i expected. Has a few borderline freeride areas with some 6 foot vertical drops, a few obstacles, etc. Overall a really nice trail. The local boy scout troop builds bridges for their eagle scout projects. Seven really nice bridges on the trail.
    I've never ridden turkey, but plan on it next time i'm in tulsa. Ridding Lake McMurtury for the first time in two weeks.

    I live in Idabel.Trails are few and far between down here, but the womble is pretty close, though
    Anyway, just thought i would get a little oklahoma chat going again.
    Props on getting the OK chat going. I just joined not too long ago, just for a wheelset question, and then figured why not join another forum, and stay on it. Forums seem to be running my online life, but owell, knowledge is power.

    So you live in Idabel? I live in Tulsa, so I get the luxury of being only a short drive from Turkey. About 8 min away to be exact. Let me tell you, from what I hear and what I've experienced (I've only ridden Turkey, Keystone, and McMurtry) , Turkey is the most technical trail in the state, if not in the region too. But my trail experience on different trails is limited to those three trails as you just read. McMurtry is a dream. Relaxing and fast, or slow and technical, depending upon what you want from it. Very few technical areas compared to the likes of Turkey.

    I just mapped out Idabel, and Ardmore, and d*mn, Ardmore is far from Tulsa. I just drove past it on I-35 S on my way to Austin last week. And heck, Idabel is even further from here it seems like. Never been down your way, but my bro rode some trails at Beaver Bend State Park (I think) a while ago. I am guessing they are pretty weak though, as his wife and kids rode too.

    Sorry you live so far from good trail areas. Go here if you didn't know about this site for OK trail info (http://www.okearthbike.com/). There you will find a listing for trails in OK as well as other useful info.

    And here is the TdD Series info (trails that the series is raced on) go here: http://www.okearthbike.com/tdd2006.html.

    For info on Turkey, go here: http://www.okearthbike.com/Trail_Pages/turkey.html.

    For info on McMurtry, go here: http://www.osucycle.com/. And for more info on the trails at McMurtry and how to get to them, go here: http://www.reddirtpedalers.com/MtnBikeRace/index06.asp.

    With McMurtry, you have two trails on each the east and west sides of the lake, four total trails. But the catch is that there is at least a 5 mile ride/drive in between them.... on gravel. No shortcuts unfortunately. Only on gravel "city" roads to get to the other two trails. I usually will ride one or both on one side, do a fast load up, and drive to the other side, to ride the other one or both trails. Trail info to keep in mind: Daily Mountain Bike Fee of $5 per vehicle with two bikes (you can purchase this at a ranger station and there is one on each side). All bicyclists MUST wear a helmet. No beer or alcoholic beverages allowed. All pets must be on a leash. Trails are multi-use, so be aware of hikers.

    And be careful of deer too, lol. I had a run in with one last time I went. Oh, and it is also a very snake prone environment too. My trail ratings from difficult to easy are as follows: Red (NE), Green (NW), Yellow (SW), Orange (SE). The red is too hard for me (the drops into the creek beds are too steep for me), Green is almost completely rideable (I have to dismount 5-10 times), Yellow is rideable (I have to dismount less than 5 times), and the Orange is for beginners (no dismounting needed by me) or if you just want some ease and speed.

    T-Town has maps too: http://www.t-townbicycles.com/Maps03.htm

    I planned on getting out this last summer and traveling more, say to TdD series trails, or the Womble, etc., but I just got engaged (last week) and bought a house (in Feb of this year), so my priorities got rearranged this year.

    I really don't ride much past Oct, but post up in here or shoot me a PM if and when you come up to Tulsa for Turkey, maybe I'll join you, or my bro will. I am getting ready to install these parts: Mavic Enduros disc/UST wheelset, XTR front derailleur, XTR cassette, and some new XTR shifter cables. Soon it will be as if I am on a brand new bike.

    I hope any or all that info helps you since you will be making a long drive up this way to ride those two trails, and if not, sorry I just wasted your time ready all ths I typed.



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    We rode clearbay, at lake Thunderbird east of Norman this summer in the midst of the heat, so the sand was very loose (and there is a lot of sand) but it should be perfect now with the rain we have had go through. Beerweasel, that is a lot closer to you. It is fast, has some fun manmade stuff and some technical spots. Also, bluff creek, right below the dam at lake hefner is fun. It is short, but like a little roller coaster going in and out of the creek bottom there. Also, go ride the 12 moh course at Ft. Sill. Just have to be careful during hunting season. I think they actually shut it down while the special seasons out there are going on. You can call ahead and see if it is open for riding, but I don't know the number. I have only ridden it during race weekends.

    As far as technical trails go, if you can ride well at Turkey, in my limited experience, you won't have trouble riding anywhere. I haven't been a lot of otherplaces, but I have never been more challenged technically anywhere than Turkey Mtn.

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    thanks osualum, I only make it up to tulsa a few times a year (and last time i brought my bike it rained the entire weekend) but i'll definately give you a shout when we head that way. It's not too far, about 3 hours. Turkey sounds BA. Thanks for the maps too, man. I was considering giving the TdD a shot next year in the beginner class, but wanted to ride all the trails in it this winter. Congrats on the engagement!! Nice parts list, too.

    We have one new trail at Beaver's Bend that was built on the lake last year. It's an 8 mile. Very fast, not very technical. Nice views of the lake and the climbs make for a great work out. Other than that, i get very used to driving. Earthquake at Mena, Ark., lots of trails at Hot Springs, Ark, and Talimena drive trails are all pretty close. Planning a late Nov. womble trip, its about two hours away.

    My brother and most of my friends are in OKC (idabel is tiny) so we make the drive about every other weekend. NuDraper is awesome and i like bluff creek too. Was tempted to ride clearbay about a month ago, but kept hearing sand horror stories.

    I'm pumped about riding mcmurtury nov 12. I finally got my brother into serious riding and showed him the value of a nice bike, so he bought by comp and i just ordered a 07 stumpy expert. mcmurtury should break it in nicely.

    SouthDakSooner, how's the riding up there? I know you guys don't have many hills or anything like mountainous Oklahoma

    It's nice to have a real OK forum going!
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    Nevermind, SoDakSooner, I was thinking SoDak=South Dakota. But i see you live in Tulsa. Haha. Am i slightly hungover this morning?
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    Yeah, Turkey mountain is a great place to ride, a little of everything. The osage hills trail is pretty good, a little more challenging than I expected. I've ridden it twice, The first time shortly after a race/rain, so it was pretty torn up. And again a month later, when it was in better shape. Greenleaf can be pretty tough, too.

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    Greenleaf is another one I was wanting to hit before it gets ball-freezing cold. Anybody know how far it is from Muskogee? I was thinking it was like 30 minutes, but wasn't sure.
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    I am from tulsa as well. I am currently building a trail between yale and hardvard off of 71st. Will post more when finished.
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    Greenleaf is probably a little more than 30 minutes from Muscogee, but not much, I think. For sure, the primitive loop gets a lot harder to follow in the fall with the leaves down. Maybe the trail is marked better now. One thing, make sure you allow yourself plenty of time if your doing both loops, as it's easy to run out of light before finishing the trail.

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    Actually there is some good riding in SD, If you like to climb, it is a great place to go. I only climb so I can come down. I have ridden bits and pieces of the centennial trail on the north end. The bulldog section is an a## kicker, especially with a hangover. Lots of good stuff in the black hills though.

    I do live in the Tulsa area (sand springs to be exact) Normally ride turkey every weekend, but hurt my knee out there at the beginning of sept, and in the process of getting it fixed. Took a corner too fast on the yellow and bike went off the edge. Luckily I stayed on the trail, but bounced the knee off the edge of a rock. You know it hurts when you feel like puking after you hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoDakSooner
    We rode clearbay, at lake Thunderbird east of Norman this summer in the midst of the heat, so the sand was very loose (and there is a lot of sand) but it should be perfect now with the rain we have had go through. Beerweasel, that is a lot closer to you. It is fast, has some fun manmade stuff and some technical spots. Also, bluff creek, right below the dam at lake hefner is fun. It is short, but like a little roller coaster going in and out of the creek bottom there. Also, go ride the 12 moh course at Ft. Sill. Just have to be careful during hunting season. I think they actually shut it down while the special seasons out there are going on. You can call ahead and see if it is open for riding, but I don't know the number. I have only ridden it during race weekends.

    As far as technical trails go, if you can ride well at Turkey, in my limited experience, you won't have trouble riding anywhere. I haven't been a lot of otherplaces, but I have never been more challenged technically anywhere than Turkey Mtn.
    So sandy there at Clearbay, huh? Well thanks for the info, as I will be better prepared for my travel down there next year. I ride on an "all season" tire, Hutch Pythons, so I think they will be okay for sand use too. I am used to rocks and roots from Turkey. I've never heard of Bluff Creek. Any maps or directions? I don't know the OKC area very well. I've heard horror stories about the 12 MOH race, I couldn't imagine not racing it would be too much easier. Lawton is on my list of too far to travel, for pleasure or race rides, as in the TdD Series, you only need to hit these requirements to qualify for the points race: "A racer’s best 7 NORBA sanctioned TdD races will count for year end series awards. Racers must participate in at least 5 NORBA sanctioned TdD races to be considered for year end awards. A DNF (Does Not Finish) does count as race participation if it's needed to meet the minimum race requirement." And I don't think 12 MOH is a NORBA sanctioned race. If I race next year, I would be in Beginner Senior, as you really can't downgrade your race category level. And no, I haven't mastered Tuurkey yet. Everyday, I praise God that I don't end up in the hospital from riding there. Last outing with my bro, I warped my rear rim way bad, had to install a tube to ride out, and my bro broke his derailleur hanger which broke his derailleur, chain, and shift cable. He got all pissed, as well did I about my wheel for a split second...... but then I think about other plausible scenarios that can easily happen: broken arms, broken legs, broken collar bones, broken neck, etc., and remember as long as I don't end up in the hospital, it was a successful ride. So far my worst from Turkey is a fractured sternum and a cracked helmet
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    thanks osualum No problem, I only make it up to tulsa a few times a year (and last time i brought my bike it rained the entire weekend) but i'll definately give you a shout when we head that way Cool. It's not too far, about 3 hours. Turkey sounds BA It is if you like slow technical garbage. Thanks for the maps too, man No problem, TTown has some maps of Turkey, but no maps really help out there. It is just best to ride with someone a few times till you get enough confidence you won't get lost out there by yourself. I was considering giving the TdD a shot next year in the beginner class, but wanted to ride all the trails in it this winter I wanted to do the TdD this year, but couldn't. I would ride Beginner Senior to start. I want to ride all the race trails before I race in the series too, but I don't winter ride. I hit the weights for winter time.. Congrats on the engagement!! Nice parts list, too.Thanks on the congrats. Nice parts list? Yeah thats not all in my parts list. I can only classify my bike as a dream to ride on.

    We have one new trail at Beaver's Bend that was built on the lake last year. It's an 8 mile. Very fast, not very technical. Nice views of the lake and the climbs make for a great work out. Other than that, i get very used to driving. Earthquake at Mena, Ark., lots of trails at Hot Springs, Ark, and Talimena drive trails are all pretty close. Planning a late Nov. womble trip, its about two hours away.

    My brother and most of my friends are in OKC (idabel is tiny) so we make the drive about every other weekend. NuDraper is awesome and i like bluff creek too. Was tempted to ride clearbay about a month ago, but kept hearing sand horror stories.

    I'm pumped about riding mcmurtury nov 12. I finally got my brother into serious riding and showed him the value of a nice bike, so he bought by comp and i just ordered a 07 stumpy expert. mcmurtury should break it in nicely. Actually McMurtry won't do too much breaking in of your new "not-so-Specialized" bikes, but it will give you the opportunity to get familiar and comfortable with your bike without having a fear of a trip to the ER. Oh, and sorry for the crack about your Specialized, I am not a fan of them. Nor Cannondales, or as I call l them "Crackandfails". I am a fan of buying what you want because you want it, not because some sales guy pressured into thinking it is the best thing for you, which I see all to often. Hence why all my parts are custom hand picked by me. I am not a fan of buying a complete bike ready to ride from these retail stores. Now, I know, that buying a complete bike is a cheap way to get into the sport, but when you got the money to custom build, why do buy a premade bike? For most, they don't have the money. Understandable. But for the other 75%, they buy what they think is cool, or the "in thing" at that time. It really irks me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so use it. Be an individual. I am not stating that iis you or your bro, or anyone else on here, just my observation of what I see in the sport.

    SouthDakSooner, how's the riding up there? I know you guys don't have many hills or anything like mountainous Oklahoma

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    Getting my bike back together tonight, if Jenson shipped my chainwhip. Hitting Turkey tomorrow morning with my bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by beer weasel
    Greenleaf is another one I was wanting to hit before it gets ball-freezing cold. Anybody know how far it is from Muskogee? I was thinking it was like 30 minutes, but wasn't sure.
    Just S of Braggs. Watch your speed around there. They like to pull over unknown vehicles. My fiance is from just S of Braggs, a town called Gore. I drive thru/past Greenleaf to get to her rents house there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrwscrnnms
    I am from tulsa as well. I am currently building a trail between yale and hardvard off of 71st. Will post more when finished.
    Huh? Exactly where? I live off of 83rd Street, which is off of Harvard, just S of 81st, behind what used to be a MedEx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoDakSooner
    Actually there is some good riding in SD, If you like to climb, it is a great place to go. I only climb so I can come down. I have ridden bits and pieces of the centennial trail on the north end. The bulldog section is an a## kicker, especially with a hangover. Lots of good stuff in the black hills though.

    I do live in the Tulsa area (sand springs to be exact) Normally ride turkey every weekend, but hurt my knee out there at the beginning of sept, and in the process of getting it fixed. Took a corner too fast on the yellow and bike went off the edge. Luckily I stayed on the trail, but bounced the knee off the edge of a rock. You know it hurts when you feel like puking after you hit.

    That sucks dude. I've been out waiting on parts. Be back tomorrow morning though. I usally start my ride there wanting to puke, and have done so in the parking lot a few times.

    I usually ride Yellow trail for warm up, and I will do the Fairydust for technical skill training
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    I ride fairydust quite a bit. fun trail. We ride red for a warmup, then will take lochi out and back, then yellow out, then wherever the mood takes me after that. My riding buddy has been bitten by the motocross bug, so haven't been getting out much for that reason as well.

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    I'm going to school at OSU in Stillwater, but I haven't made it out to McMurtry yet. It's on my 'to do' list...after I get a bike again.

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    Anybody else ride Turkey today (Saturday)? Had to be the most perfect combination of weather and trail conditions since I moved here 8 years ago. I was there from 10am-2pm. Could have spent at least another hour if it weren't for familiy duties. If you missed it, Sunday is supposed to be great, too.

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    Theres a park in that neighborhood that had a trail started but never finished...I will release the exact location when its lookin decent
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    Didn't ride Turkey, but did get out and pedal around town trying to loosen up the knee. Took a few good drops to flat (for me that's about 3 ft) and it felt good. Wanted to get out to Turkey but didn't have time. Did get 11 miles in around Sand Springs in just a little over an hour. Hope to be back out on the trails next weekend.

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    any of you guys ever play on the stunts out there or are you more cross country that downhill or freeride

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    I ride by them a lot Most are too big for me as well as my bike. There is some nasty stuff back there....at least to me. Wish I had the guts to hit some of that stuff.

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    I'm in Tyler, Tx, about 1 1/2 hours south of idabel. I ride dirtbikes in the clayton/pickens area pretty regularly. With all that public land unused (except for logging and hunting), there could be some epic trails in the area....there just aren't any recreation oriented people around there. I'd like to take a long weekend and ride the hot springs area and head up to womble from there. I'm 3 hours from hot springs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yater
    I'm in Tyler, Tx, about 1 1/2 hours south of idabel. I ride dirtbikes in the clayton/pickens area pretty regularly. With all that public land unused (except for logging and hunting), there could be some epic trails in the area....there just aren't any recreation oriented people around there. I'd like to take a long weekend and ride the hot springs area and head up to womble from there. I'm 3 hours from hot springs.

    yater, how are the trails in tyler state park? The techs at plano cycling said they were some of the best in texas. I'd love to hit them up sometime. Hot springs has some really nice stuff, well maintained with beautiful views.

    You're right about the public land in McCurtain County. Mucho forest land that rolls and begs for trails to be put on it. I've been talking with our state senator about adding 10 miles to the existing trail in Beavers Bend. Arrowhead Trails Inc (who built it) already planned to add more to it at a later date. I hope we can get it done soon. Yes, and there aren't any recreation oriented people around here. I have gotten two roadies into mtb'ing in the last year, but that's really it for the cycling culture in the area. If you're riding around battiest/pickens, most are methamphetamine oriented. That is the back woods of the back woods, but beautiful scenery. There are some good people up there, though.

    The womble is about an hour and 45 minutes from me. We're heading over there for the weekend Nov. 24-25. Ouachita cycling is planning a big group ride that weekend. should be nice. Anybody wanna join us?

    Yater, PM me and next time your up this way we'll ride.
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    Tyler state park is a great trail but I ride it about 3 times a week so I like to get out of town for the weekends. I also have a road bike but don't consider myself a roadie (I use MTB pedals on my bianchi....GASP!). I've been thinking about a multi-day camping ride somewhere between southeast Ok and southwest Ar. We've done similar and have bushwacked trails on the dirtbikes (when lost)....there is a lot of potential out there for freeriding (no trails) or trailbuilding. I'm waiting on my new anthem to get here and I'd like to get up there and ride in the next few weeks and months. I'll be looking for a long weekend to ride near hot springs and womble in one fell swoop.

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    Hey guys, i just joined these forums about a week ago. I live down here in Ardmore. The Lake Murry trails are literately right in my backyard. My friend and i ride them about 3 times a week. Is anybody planning on rideing the 12MOH this coming year? Anyway its nice to see some fellow okies on here. If any of yall are coming down to Ardmore for a ride give me a shout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nohook__90
    Hey guys, i just joined these forums about a week ago. I live down here in Ardmore. The Lake Murry trails are literately right in my backyard. My friend and i ride them about 3 times a week. Is anybody planning on rideing the 12MOH this coming year? Anyway its nice to see some fellow okies on here. If any of yall are coming down to Ardmore for a ride give me a shout.
    I rode Lake Murray for the first time a month ago. It was a great ride, you guys have a hell of a scout troup there. I love the idea of the eagle scouts building a new bridge every year. After seeing how much the bridges added to the trail, I started talking to my local scout troop about improving our trail.

    One of my buddies is the sales manager at Toyota of Ardmore and we head down there fairly often. I was also really impressed with the LBS there, too. I talked to the owner for an hour last time i was there. He's a great advocate for local cycling and showed me the plans for the new skate/bmx park the city is building. Also gave me a detailed trail map of Lake Murray, which was very helpful.

    I'd really like to hit Bar H in St. Jo next time I'm in Ardmore.

    I PM you next time we head over that way.
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    i got my new bike from a shop in sherman, all the folks there said Bar H is a good ride. Will probly try and get down there soon since its only about 30 min from here.

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    If anyone is interested in a december multi-day run, I have a route picked out from broken bow lake to mena, arkansas. I'll likely take 4 days to do the loop (round trip) and will stay the first night at Gillham lake and the second in Mena (pizza and hot shower). The return trip will head west into oklahoma and then south so there will be no backtracking. There will be 2 nights of bush camping and one motel night in mena. Daily mileage should be ~50 if all goes as planned. In the future, I can probably cut it down to 2 days but I want to leave plenty of time to get lost the first time. If anyone is interested, let me know. This will be 95% gravel.....we could even throw in some single track near mena or broken bow if interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yater
    If anyone is interested in a december multi-day run, I have a route picked out from broken bow lake to mena, arkansas. I'll likely take 4 days to do the loop (round trip) and will stay the first night at Gillham lake and the second in Mena (pizza and hot shower). The return trip will head west into oklahoma and then south so there will be no backtracking. There will be 2 nights of bush camping and one motel night in mena. Daily mileage should be ~50 if all goes as planned. In the future, I can probably cut it down to 2 days but I want to leave plenty of time to get lost the first time. If anyone is interested, let me know. This will be 95% gravel.....we could even throw in some single track near mena or broken bow if interested.
    I live in Idabel (7 miles from Broken Bow) and will definately hit the singletrack here and in Mena with you. Both trails are really nice and in great shape. Your camping should be perfect right now with the way the weather has been. We rode the womble last weekend, peeled our warmers within two minutes of riding, and did a little sweating in late November.
    When were you thinking of going?
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    I'm not set on a date yet....I'll be watching the weather. It'll be sometime after the 1st week of december. It looks like the first cool weather is coming through this week. Ideally, I'll pick a weekend of highs in the 50s-60s and lows in the 30s. Is it alright to leave a car at broken bow lake for the weekend? Is there a warden out there or is it a free-for-all?

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    The park is very well patrolled. I would park at the state lodge (Lakeview Lodge in the Steven's Gap area) there is a ranger there 24-7 and there are lots of people coming and going. Also, the trailhead is about 100 feet from the parking lot You could start on the Lakeview Lodge trail, which you could loop, or get off at Carson Creek Road, which will take you to US259 or many three rivers wildlife management area roads.
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    Turkey Mtn condition 12/26?

    Anyone ride on Christmas day? I'm considering riding tomorrow (12/26), but wonder how quickly it dries. I'm a native Tulsa here for the Holidays and am looking forward to riding Turkey for the first time since about 1993 and on something other than a rigid bike!

    Thanks in advance for any trail reports...

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    Welcome Home!!

    Wow!! I started riding up at Turkey in 93. You are going to be amazed at all the new trails. I rode on the 24th and it was tackey. We got quite a bit of rain Christmas Eve. It will be muddy in places but Turkey dries very fast. I would give it a shot but if it is really muddy, to the point of leaving a bunch of ruts, have a nice ride on the bike paths.

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    So did you ride today?

    I was at Turkey from noon to 3 and didn't see any Tennessee license plates or anybody riding a Diamond Back or a Salsa.

    Well, if you did ride then you know that the trails are in pretty good shape except for a few mud holes on the south trails and the new Indian Cultural Center construction which has laid a smooth gravel path almost all the way to the entrance to Lo-Chi. Unfortunately it stops 20 yards short and it's a muddy slog right now to get to the entrance.

    Anybody know how many trails we're going to lose with this construction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiefab
    Anybody know how many trails we're going to lose with this construction?

    From what I understand, we are going to lose all the trails South of the lower parking lot from Elwood down to the River. Those trails we are losing are going to be replaced with a cement path which will be wheelchair accessibe and it will surround the whole Indian Center. As for the trails around lower area North of where the Indian center thing is going, I have no idea.

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    Great. Those south trails are not only a big part of the racing course, they're some of the best tight, technical singletrack I've seen in 4 states. We're sure to loose the southernmost branch which has the toughest rideable climb I've ever seen. It's right after the dry rock riverbed. I can count on two hands the number of times I've managed to clean that mother.

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    Rode yesterday afternoon, some muddy spots. Horses have done some damage as well. Didn't hit lo-chi for the exact reason stated above, mud where the new road is going... It will stink to lose those lower trails. Hopefully some will remain. I am amazed that they are actually doing some construction. I was under the impression that they were a long ways off in fundraising for the cultural center. Maybe I was wrong.

    Hope it takes a while to get it built...........

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    I got there at about 3pm and rode until about 4:45. Great stuff! I didn't try any lower trails, but I'm headed back out there now, so may try that. I, too, found the trails to be in very good shape with just the few mud holes.

    Enjoy...

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    I was out at Turkey earlier today and you know what I saw? Yep, another guy hiking around in lofers, slacks and a dress shirt. Hopefully once the Indian Center is finished the police will start making more rounds at Turkey and run all of the gays out. I am so sick of seeing those predators out there!

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    The loafer lizards drive me crazy. Why do they all seem to drive SUVs and trucks? I try not to give them a second thought. I always carry a Smith & Wesson linerlock SWAT knife that is enough to ward off any of them.

    It's the "normal" looking guys that worry me 'cause I know there has got to be a serious drug trade going on out there. The police patrol occasionaly but I think they have no clue of the extent of the problem.

    It's a double-edged sword: the best hiking & biking trails in the state, but its so close to town that there's an incredible amount of crime occurring there every day. Solution? Gated access? As a solo rider I'd sure feel safer. Too bad it would have to come to that.

    A less restrictive solution may be to post guys' photos and license plate numbers on a website. Title it "Do you know where your husband is?" That may keep people out of there.

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    A couple of bucks here and there would be worth the efforts of a gated area if it would keep all the pirates away....... and it would probably work too!

    About a year and a half ago I got so feed up seeing what was going on out there I started calling the police to report what was going on and for a couple of weeks the police would make Turkey a regular route. It was funny too because when ever a cop would pull into the parking area all of these so-called hikers would take off pretty quickly. But after a few weeks the patrols slowed down and the activity was back to business as usual. After a few more inquiring calls to find out what has happened to the patrols, I was told that they will come out only if there is suspicious activity or if an unlawful act is/has taken place. Ok, well, that describes every moment a car pulls in backwards. So after that conversation I decided to call the local news stations to see if they would do a report about the activity up at Turkey just to bring more awareness to the issues up there. Channel 6 flat out did not seem interested, but 2 and 8 made it sound like they might be interested and channel 2 wanted to know if I would be willing to to be interviewed if they go through with the story, I said I would but I never heard from either news station again. I guess it just wasn't a big enough story.

    I like the idea of posting pics of guys and their license plates on a website, That might do something. I think the key is to get more of the general public aware of what is going on up there in order to get something done about it. If we could get enough people together with some cameras and what-not, I would be willing to go up and make it known that that gay crap needs to stop. I am sure that standing out on Elwood with a video camera and shooting every car and single male that comes into the parking lot dressed in lofers and slacks would have a tempoary affect.

    Bottom line, I am sick of seeing it! So if we lose some trails to the Indian center, fine! I just hope that with the increase of families that will be coming up there, more patrolling will follow.

    Oh, and as a side note, that area that the gays use on the south side of the parking area.... it is going to be cleared out for the Indian center. hahahahahaha

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    It's interesting (well, not in a good way) to note that the reputation of Turkey Mtn. hasn't changed much since at least the early 90s. The upper parking lot (then the only parking lot) used to be the 'hot spot' and I guess closing it didn't change much.

    Good news is I saw two horse cops out on the trail yesterday; so there are at least some patrols. I also saw lots of families; so I would hope that would deter the 'activities' and encourage police visits. Not so good news is I noticed two or three obvious non-hiker men wandering around alone today relatively near the parking lot.

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    am i missing something?

    I have been mtb'n up at turkey since 93 and went to the West Side YMCA when i was a kid. I have seen very little "bad" activity. I see people setting in there cars but that is not illegal. I think you are blowing it out of proportion. I really can't believe how popular Turkey has become. There are just as many families out hiking as people mtb'n. I worry more about it getting developed than any thing else. I don't like it when it is crowded but that my keep it from getting developed. Turkey Mt. is the only reason i have stayed in Tulsa. If it goes, I go.

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    Here are some fairly poor quality (phone) photos from last week. Turkey Mountain was a blast!

    http://nationalmountainbike.com/boar...?p=422#post422

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    hey cegrover, how moist was the dirt up there?

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    Overall, it wasn't bad at all. The mud was mostly in a few low areas. Of course, the last day I rode was 12/28 and I believe it rained a lot on the 29th.

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    Trails are in good shape right now, at least as of Saturday afternoon. A few muddy spots, but the moisture in the soil (i.e. sand) makes it just about perfect. Traction is great and you can really rail corners right now.

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    Man, what an awsome ride up at Turkey today! I figured that I might as well take advantage of the great weather before the bad stuff rolls in here tomorrow. Temps in the mid 60's with a stong wind rolling in from the south, the trails dry and fairly tacky, and plenty of riders out for a thursday late afternoon. Too bad about the weather that we're expecting...... it looks like today was the last ride at turkey for me for at least a week or so because I hate riding in the slop or the cold, the very cold that is!

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    I'm with you, the trails were perfect today. The right amount of moisture and the rocks were just a slight shade of green. (Beware of the dark green snot covered rocks!) Took a new rider down techno and up thru the rock garden and traction was everywhere. Hopefully I can slide another quick ride in tomorrow!
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    Already raining. No ride today

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    You should have been out there at 10 o'clock Thursday night with me. It was beautiful. 60 degrees, just me, my bike, a headlamp, and the creepy guy sitting in the Crown Vic in the dark corner of the lot. I just kept telling myself he was an undercover cop. Ok, he'd be the worst undrecover cop ever sitting in that car, but he didn't bother me or my truck.

    I didn't realize that that place has some nice powerful lights that keep the lot well lit. There was also at least one squad car come by on patrol while I was there. Thanks TPD.

    Anyway, it was really cool to do one last ride the night before this nasty cold hit. My LED headlamp didn't have the wattage that would be necessary to turn night into day so that I could see well enough to navigate the upper trails, so I just took a quick spin around the south trails and the front side of the main part of Turkey where the dirt is pretty smooth and predictable. Anyone interested in making a weekly night ride in the spring? I know for parts of the summer the trails are almost unrideable for more than an hour during the day due to the heat. Night rides would be ideal then since the sun doesn't really set until after 9.

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    turkey+night

    I'd be up fo that sprang thang. I've got exactly one night ride under my belt and am usually pretty slow in daylight, so add the two together and I'm sure a snail would be faster than me. (I've got a great personality though.) Let me get a few more night rides under my belt and let me get more comfortable then I'd be ready for a night group ride. I might be able to bring a few more peeps too.

    BTW, what lamp are you running? I just bought a Blackburn X6 that allows either one/two lamps on the bars or one on the helmet. My one night ride I had two on the bars but was thinking of trying the next with one on the helmet. Is that what you prefer or just what ya got?
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    A buddy and I did the night ride thing for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I would be up for it. With my commute(to okmulgee) every day, that is the only way I would get any weekday riding in, at least until summer.

    I have a cheap little 10 watt led that works ok, but you can definitely out run it. We pretty much stayed on top on the non technical stuff. The snake is pretty fun in the dark...Don't know what you guys call it.

    If you guys ever want to ride, just PM me. I am usually good for a saturday or Sunday afternoon. I am pretty slow, especially since I tore up a bunch of knee ligaments on the yellow over labor day weekend....Just look for the black heckler if you see me out there and want to visit, I will probably need the break.

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    I hate to say this with Turkey's reputation but we should all hook up soon.

    I bet my Heckler's slower than yours.
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    that was bad!!! Probably not the most appropriate play on words....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoDakSooner
    that was bad!!! Probably not the most appropriate play on words....
    Dude! You said "The snake is pretty fun in the dark"!!

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    My lighting system is about 5 years old and weights about 4 lbs if I use both batteries, but it can cast some serious light for an hour then it starts to die out....... but who cares! I am up for a weekly ( or just one ) night ride when it warms up. For the last couple of weeks I have been giving some serious consideration to doing some nights rides but I just haven't had enough motivation. Yell at me if/when you guys get a ride planned.
    Aw, crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiefab
    Dude! You said "The snake is pretty fun in the dark"!!
    It's odd that nobody's mentioned riding "boner" in the dark.

    I say we set a time/date for the future and do it. It'll be a bit strange to ride w/3 guys I've never met in the dark but what the hay, I've only met one true a$$hole on the trail and that was at Keystone last week. A story for another time; hell I'll probably blog it when I calm down and get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie_calvin
    I bet my Heckler's slower than yours.

    Hey were you out there yesterday before the weather turned? with a couple of other guys at the top of the old parking area, with one of the other riders wearing jeans to ride in?


    And.... it's nice to know that there is another Santa Cruz rider out there in good ol' T-town There aren't too many of us out there
    Aw, crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooddog
    Hey were you out there yesterday before the weather turned? with a couple of other guys at the top of the old parking area, with one of the other riders wearing jeans to ride in?

    And.... it's nice to know that there is another Santa Cruz rider out there in good ol' T-town There aren't too many of us out there
    That's me, the big guy who was wheezin'. The guy in the jeans is an all-out cycling stud who likes (sicko) to ride in jeans in the fall and winter and long sleeve shirts year round. We had one total newbie with us, one who hadn't ridden in about a year, the stud who didn't ride much dirt last year, and me who's terribly out of shape; but even with all that we still had a blast. I think I remember seeing you now; were you riding with another?
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    hahahaha! I don't remember seeing anyone wheezing. When I rode past I think you might have been adjusting your Buddies rear derailure. I was riding solo coming from the snake, crossing over the upper parking area and heading down to the lower parking area. I was on a light blue vp-free set up for xc with a Minute on the front
    Aw, crap!

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    Yep that be me; I now remember that the SC that went by was a black Blur and I thought you were the guy with the black Heckler so my bad. (I'm confused as to who all from T-Town's been posting here.) And yes I was working on a derailleur, MINE! I'm having a few drivetrain issues at this time, nothing that a darn good cleaning and possibly a new chain won't fix. I don't know about others but I'm not too motivated to clean my bikes when the water from the tap is about 36 degrees.

    VP Free eh? Are ya hittin' the big stuff?
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    Dude! You said "The snake is pretty fun in the dark"!!
    Touche'

    Speaking of SC, Ive seen a few blurs, and even one Nomad. Other than that not many, other than Calvin's Root Beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie_calvin
    VP Free eh? Are ya hittin' the big stuff?

    I was with my old vp-free, it was set up for some heavy hittin' but it was stolen off the back of my car one night when I was feeling too lazy to bring it inside . But once the insurance check came in, I located another frame w/out a shock in Kansas at a great price and built it up more AM oriented since I still had all my xc parts. Now I am wishing I didn't pick up another vp-free, it's a great ride but the frame is just too heavy. I am wishing I would've considered a Nomad or sx-trail or something AM that would be a bit lighter then the free, but at the time I was so set on losing my bike that all I could think about was getting the same set-up asap!
    Aw, crap!

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    Sup all?

    Fat and slow checkin in.

    It has been a while since I've logged on here. Sorry to hear all that construction is going to f**k up the bottom. Didn't know they were going that far down. Saw it a while ago on my last ride out there, and said: " F**kin shite! More modernization for the trails that going to f**k shite up for us MTBer's! Why can't people leave shite alone sometimes?"

    Well, my last ride out, my bro crashed and f**ked up his shoulder. Didn't seperate it, but stretched some ligaments/tendens, so it sits lower that the other good one. Surgery is needed to fix the look, but otherwise he is okay. Sucked a** too, cause we were only like 20 min into the ride. Just went in on the Snake and down the the ghetto northridge ramps, where he did it.

    So haven't ridden since.

    Having issues with my crankset rings. 3 years of abuse at Turkey has taken it's toll. No teeth = dumping chain. I like RaceFace (I currently have a RF Prodigy XC ISIS crankset), but RF only has X-type now. Any thoughts? I hear the X-type BB's that come with their cranksets are shite. But I've been eyeing the Deus setup. RF shite is just so sexsay to me. But I am considering all my options, ISIS and X-type.

    Here is my current setup to help you help me:


    Frame: 2001 Jamis Komodo / LT Comp Series / Easton Elite / 17” / Beetle Green color (Yup it's a hardtail. I don't puss out, lol)
    Fork: 2003 Manitou / Black Elite / 100/120 / Coil Spring, TPC Damping, hollow crown, RA casting / Candy Chrome color
    Brakes: 2006 Avid Juicy Seven / 160mm (6”) rotor / 850mm F / 1400mm R
    Wheelset: 2006 Mavic Crossmax Enduros Disc UST / Front weight: 850g / Rear weight: 985g (1835g total weight)
    Tires: Hutchinson Python UST (originals, not the NG lights) / 26. 0 x 2.00
    Crankset: RaceFace Prodigy XC / 175mm / ISIS spline
    BB: RaceFace Evolve FR / 113mm / 68/73mm / M12 bolt
    Pedals: 2003 CrankBros Eggbeater SS
    Chain: SRAM PC991
    Shifters: Shimano XT (2007 Shimano XTR M970 on back-up)
    FD: Shimano XT M750 / 1 ¼ (31.8) / Top Pull (2006 Shimano XTR M960 on back-up)
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    Stem: RaceFace Prodigy / 1 1/8” / 120mm / 8 degree rise (face drilled out to save weight)
    Grips: Yeti Hardcore / Odi lock-on clamps
    Seatpost: RaceFace XY / 400mm / 26.8 (custom cut shorter to save weight)
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    Check out pics of me here (bike ones are me at Turkey): http://www.myspace.com/machone

    as well as a video of me at Turkey there too in my videos section, I was in that ghetto northridge section past the Snake, same jump my bro crashed and f**ked up his shoulder on, but the jump was ramped up alot more whend he did it

    if you can't view them and you want to, let me know, and I'll get my pics hosted and post them up for ya
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    osualum78, we have the same bike rack
    Aw, crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooddog
    osualum78, we have the same bike rack
    Performance 4 bike rack? Yup. Best rack for the dollar spent IMO. I always see and have talked to some guy(s) up at Turkey that make their own rack, that is "supposed" to be better than the Performance one, but he wants like over $300 for his, which = to me

    Just got a new Performance 4 bike one for my bro for Xmas, and they changed the setup compared to mine. Better knobs for locking down the trays and better wheel trays (the new trays are not flat like mine, so they are "deeper" so the bike has less chance of sliding out), but the new ones use a pin system to fold the legs up and down and to fold the rack spline down = to me

    There was no way in he!! I was going to get a trunk mount or roof mount with my car. They only built less than 18,000 of my car (in all the colors and options) for 03/04. I take no chances of f**king it up. Hence my hitch mount choice
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    Wow Zac,
    1. You're a late-model Mustang enthusiast
    2. You're an OSU grad
    3. You're a mountain bike enthusiast from Turkey who hand picks his bike part by part
    4. You've got a smokin' hot girlfriend/wife/girl who shows up in all your pictures

    If Oliver Stone needs a skinnier and faster version of myself for the filming of my life story, I'll drop your name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiefab
    Wow Zac,
    1. You're a late-model Mustang enthusiast Actually, I'm an all model muscle car enthusiast
    2. You're an OSU grad Yup. Go Cowboys! Boo Sooners!
    3. You're a mountain bike enthusiast from Turkey who hand picks his bike part by part I'm not from Turkey. I'm from south Tulsa, and to be more specific I went to JHS. I ride Turkey cause it f**king rocks and is about 6 miles from my house. Yes I pick my parts based on my thoughts, not based upon what the rest of the biking world does
    4. You've got a smokin' hot girlfriend/wife/girl who shows up in all your pictures Yup, fiance. Wedding is to be in Sept/Oct/Nov of this year. No place established yet

    If Oliver Stone needs a skinnier and faster version of myself for the filming of my life story, I'll drop your name. I don't know about skinnier or faster, but thanks. I'll give acting a go
    Oh we have a kitty cat, named Gucci. He rocks. Clicky on the pic to make bigger.



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    Betty my bike hauler:


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    Oh and check out this ride someone just posted p on my Mach site
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    Aw, crap! More sloppy weather rolling in this weekend! Up to 8 more inches of snow on top of the ice that we already have.
    Aw, crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooddog
    Aw, crap! More sloppy weather rolling in this weekend! Up to 8 more inches of snow on top of the ice that we already have.
    What? You're not riding this weekend?

    Wimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wooddog
    Aw, crap! More sloppy weather rolling in this weekend! Up to 8 more inches of snow on top of the ice that we already have.
    Yup. Sucks. Cabin fever is setting in

    Quote Originally Posted by okie_calvin
    What? You're not riding this weekend?

    Wimp.
    Not me either. I only ride when temps are 40+ degrees. Call me a wimp or unmanly or whatever, I don't care.

    On another note, I was craving some caffeine today, and well, my Mustang (1) doesn't go out in ths weather since it's a rare collector's car unless I absolutely have to, and (2) it wouldn't make it anywhere. Down my driveway sure, but spinning tires after that.

    So I rode my bike to the gas station to get a pop. First time I've been on it in ice. It was weird. But felt good to be on the saddle again
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    Anybody you locals read any other of these threads? The ones I'm posting in?

    Some of these people are a riot


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    I'm gettingeally antisy, so who is up for a meet and greet this Sunday on the River for a route around the 5 mile loop? I would like to meet the fellows I have been chatting with and since the weather is crappy and we can't ride, I say forget about it and we meet up Sunday at the Rivers Edge for a get-to-know-each-other ride in the weird Oklahoma weather.
    Who else is in?
    Aw, crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooddog
    I'm gettingeally antisy, so who is up for a meet and greet this Sunday on the River for a route around the 5 mile loop? I would like to meet the fellows I have been chatting with and since the weather is crappy and we can't ride, I say forget about it and we meet up Sunday at the Rivers Edge for a get-to-know-each-other ride in the weird Oklahoma weather.
    Who else is in?
    I would, but my car won't get me there after the snow hits, and I need some new cranks. Researching a new crankset now to get me up an back up in torque ready running status
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    Quote Originally Posted by wooddog
    I'm gettingeally antisy, so who is up for a meet and greet this Sunday on the River for a route around the 5 mile loop? I would like to meet the fellows I have been chatting with and since the weather is crappy and we can't ride, I say forget about it and we meet up Sunday at the Rivers Edge for a get-to-know-each-other ride in the weird Oklahoma weather.
    Who else is in?
    Jeez I was just joking about the wimp thing. I won't get on any saddle until this mess is gone!!!
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    I've got a buddy named...Buddy who's killing me sending me the following links. Nothing like being kept from riding by the weather to make a guy wanna travel!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v<WBR>=UHiRteOWhNw
    http://www.whistler.com<WBR>/playhere/info/bike-rentals<WBR>.html
    http://www.bikecowhistler.com<WBR>/rentals.html
    http://www.summitsport.com<WBR>/summer/Rocky_Mountain_RMX.asp

    There's a few of us that have hopes of heading to Whistler this summer and riding our tails off. Buddy can handle the hucks, me and the others just wanna go fast.
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    aawww, to bad to hear that you fellas are the wimpy ones I will most likely head out there depending on what the conditions are like just so I can get out of the house...... I am feeling all stir crazy.
    Those Whisler vids are awsome. How would you guys get there? Drive for 4 days or fly?
    Aw, crap!

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    Fly to Seattle where a friends mom lives; take her car and head north for a few days, back to Seattle then back to T-Town. It's about 70% right now but we're rapidly moving closer to 100%.
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    What'a ya think guys? Trails be rideable by mid-March or so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie_calvin
    What'a ya think guys? Trails be rideable by mid-March or so?
    Hopefully

    As soon as I get my new cranks ordered and on (I am undecided still on which ones), and as soon as the weather starts hitting above 50 degrees or so, consistently, then I'll be out at Turkey again regularly. Mainly trying to decide on cranks/BB

    I'll be the fat, and slow, and ugly guy, on a skinny, and fast, and nice bike
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    WHAT??? Mid March???? You guys are a bunch of girly riders . I will be heading out to Turkey tomorrow! With temps near the 60's I am not goning to let the day pass me up! I will send out a report tomorrow night regarding Turkey's trail conditions and what not.

    As for OSUALUM78 look into to either XT externals with the BB but if that is too pricey go for the 06 or 05(if you can find them) Raceface Evolve XC cranks with the external BB. I have been running the RF Evolve for over a year and have wrecked, jumped, hucked, raced DH AND spent 3 days at Snowshoe on these cranks and they are still rocking hard! My .02
    Aw, crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooddog
    WHAT??? Mid March???? You guys are a bunch of girly riders . I will be heading out to Turkey tomorrow! With temps near the 60's I am not goning to let the day pass me up! I will send out a report tomorrow night regarding Turkey's trail conditions and what not.

    As for OSUALUM78 look into to either XT externals with the BB but if that is too pricey go for the 06 or 05(if you can find them) Raceface Evolve XC cranks with the external BB. I have been running the RF Evolve for over a year and have wrecked, jumped, hucked, raced DH AND spent 3 days at Snowshoe on these cranks and they are still rocking hard! My .02

    Yeah, I would like to head out, but I am way out of shape, and as I already stated, I need new crank, my chain dumps on high torquing down.

    I currently have RF Prodigy XC and Evolve FR BB, and I'd like to stick with RF, as they are one of my favorite brands, but all of their cranksets are now X-type. But, I am looking at their Deus setup.

    Question, is their S.H.I.F.T technology worth anything? I have it on my current Prodigy's, but it isn't on their new Atlas or Deus cranks, only on their new Evolve XC cranks, which leads to me to believe, if it is on their bottom end crankset, it doesn't mean much
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    If the weather holds (which it probably won't) might try and do something downtown this weekend. Parking garages and stairs, etc....Looks like rain tomorrow and cold Sunday though.

    I just put new dropout, rear derailleur, and cables on mine, so it is ready to go. It looks so nice I don't want to get it all muddy on those nasty trails HEHE. I am itching to go out and do something though. I might even ride on the road....GASP!!!

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    I've been riding turkey for about five years now - much more frequently in this last year. My brother and I were riding about 4 times a week there for a while during the summer. i love it, for all the reasons you guys have mentioned earlier. Although, just in this year even, I've noticed that the trails have been getting eroded away. There seems to be more rocks than ever, and the rocks that are there are getting worse due to dirt being displaced. There are some places that I couldve swore were nice and smooth early 2006 that I now have to stand on my pedals for. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a trailday coming up soon? I'd love to go rock-hunting. Dont get me wrong, I love the technical stuff, but at some points there are rocks that prevent a smooth flow.
    Hope to see some of you out there. I ride a hardtail litespeed, my brother rides a red stumpjumper FSR. we're usually out once a week.

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    Ok, you fellas know how I was going to go up to Turkey and ride in this nice weather? Well, it turns out my idea to ride was BAD! BAD! BAD! BAD! I think it will be around the middle of March before that place dries out. I knew the conditions would be..... well, not perfect but wholly crap! The trails are nothing but a constant stream of flowing water and I only rode in about .25 miles before I decided to head back to the car. I got so tried of the cold water and mud spalashing up on me, and trying to climb anything out there just wasn't going to happen. I assume that the Spider and the Ridge MIGHT be rideable but due to the frostbite that had aready started on the crack of my a$$ from the frozen water splashing on it, I really didn't care to take the chance and find out. So I turned around and went for a spin on the River instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattdaddy79
    I've been riding turkey for about five years now - much more frequently in this last year. My brother and I were riding about 4 times a week there for a while during the summer. i love it, for all the reasons you guys have mentioned earlier. Although, just in this year even, I've noticed that the trails have been getting eroded away. There seems to be more rocks than ever, and the rocks that are there are getting worse due to dirt being displaced. There are some places that I couldve swore were nice and smooth early 2006 that I now have to stand on my pedals for. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a trailday coming up soon? I'd love to go rock-hunting. Dont get me wrong, I love the technical stuff, but at some points there are rocks that prevent a smooth flow.
    Hope to see some of you out there. I ride a hardtail litespeed, my brother rides a red stumpjumper FSR. we're usually out once a week.
    Mattdaddy, for all the years I have been riding up at Turkey, one thing will always stand true..... erosion. I can remember riding on some trails years ago that were smooth and now are totally unrecognizable and can't be ridden. I know that there has been someone who has laid out some dirt on some of the lower trails to smooth out some of the eroded areas but I don't know who it was. My guess is that it was some rider who got tired of hitting those spots as they were and decided to take some action.
    I am up for doing some trailwork and throwing down some dirt but as for going after some of the rocks with a sledghammer, although a good idea, will probably upset someone. If you are interested in getting together with a group to do some much needed trail repairs, give Jake a call up at T-town and I bet he has some info about a group that does just that.
    Aw, crap!

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    I heard that the smoothed-out trails at the base of the hill are courtesy of a Boy Scout troup that brought in a couple tons of dirt and a Bobcat to rebuild the sections that had severe water erosion problems. No rocks, just gigantic ruts that were impossible to ride. It's worked really well after the first few rains got the dirt packed down.
    The rock path off the parking lot is an Eagle Scout project as well. Too bad they had to tear out part of it to install the access path. Hopefully that will be returned to normal soon. It definately helped with some severe erosion problems on that little hill going down to the lot. For about a year you had to risk your life to ride down to the lot at any speed above 10mph until they built that.

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