• 11-25-2011
    fat-but-slow
    Medicine Park - Lawton Riders
    I have started building a single-track trail near Med. Park(the unfortunate fires have cleared the terrain temporarily). Granted its not Durango Co., but it does feature challenging elevation changes and it is mostly technical. It is fairly short at the time, yet it could be linked to other established trails nearby making for a good ride. I feel this area has the potential for great mtb. trails, to complement the existing double wide jeep trail offered around base of Mt. Scott. Yes the Scott trail offers a good aerobic work-out, but does not provide "single track euphoria". The key word here is single track.

    So what is my point? I am simply testing the waters, or trying to get a nucleus of support to get a trail or "trails" started on public land surrounding Med. Park and or Lake Lawtonka. Yes I am aware of the S.T. on West side of Lake presently closed for Elmer Fudd and Bambi, could this trail be expanded to circle the Lake? I know Fort Sill's terrain is prime for trails, but I know the U.S. Army will never grant acreage to bike riders. They have a bigger mission, plus a carbon frame would offer no protection for a round from a MLRS. But what about the Wichita Mountain Wildlife Refuge? Could someone please convince Smokey the Bear that a mtn bike trail will not harm the black capped vireos. They like mountain bikers, so would the local economy.

    So now that my "spoiled child" rant is over I want to sum it up. Biking is a quality of life issue for me and I hope others, and I see many acres of unused terrain ripe for mtn. biking, but due to lack of interest from the public, the potential remains only potential. What do we do? Discuss the Lake Lawtonka issue with City of Lawton, perhaps instead of building more trailer house pads, they could spend a little on a healthy bike trail. As for the Wichita Mountains, be present at the next public use forum and voice your opinion. I am not the political type who makes banners and camps on library lawns... just someone who has a passion.
  • 01-10-2012
    Tr1Hawaii
    It's a start
    Looks like we had a good meeting this morning. Hopefully this is the start to building better trails in our community! So, Sunday begins the change we're hoping for!!
  • 01-11-2012
    Jimmy V
    Don't leave us hanging like that.
    It's all about the details, please?
  • 01-12-2012
    Tr1Hawaii
    Sorry JV!! On Sunday, 15 JAN, we're meeting up to ride and review possible trails for the City of Lawton. Meeting at the refugeg, just north of the LETRA parking lot at noon. Not sure how many will be there, but we plan to ride the trails on city property, west of Lake Lawtonka and explore areas for improvement; trying to set up some nice single track that can connect to the refuge double track. Hope to see ya there!!!
  • 01-15-2012
    Jimmy V
    We had an awsome time,
    and met the best group of people you could ask for.
    Thanks to all involved. Hope to see you all again soon.
  • 01-17-2012
    fat-but-slow
    Sorry: I thought thread was dead.
    Jimmy V.,

    Thanks for your participation. It is ironic that I put that "rant" up approx. 1.5 months before being contacted by our new Lakes and Land Dir. from City of Lawton with a proposal to build a dedicated advanced mtn. bike trail on City Property... what are you kidding? I was surprised.

    Anyway, yes it is on now. Needless to say the area we rode Sunday has "tons" of potential. We are meeting Saturday at noon to further the trail. btw: I have marked what I think is an awesome beginning to a new trail, it borders the lake and heads into chunky singletrack in the trees. To find it(orange & white flags), simply look to the right (East) after crossing the first lake inlet. ie: it's not directly after crossing the walk fence with your bike. There is a lot of walking, marking, surveying left to do to create a giant loop, connecting to the existing ST, and presently there is alot of "light tree trimming-only enough to allow a shoulder width and head high). Once done, it could be excellent.

    So, if the majority of the Mtb riders do not like my starting track (its not an ego thing for me, just want to make this happen), we can make changes. But the sooner we pick a line and continue to ride it, the sooner we will have buff single track in our backyard.
  • 01-17-2012
    Tr1Hawaii
    It was a great ride guys!!! Being a novice/intermidate rider, the trail definately tested my and my Kona's abilitties.. I'll bring along some trimming tools Saturday, and let's get get this party started!
    Mike
  • 01-19-2012
    Jimmy V
    Sounds like a plan.
    See you Saturday.
  • 01-20-2012
    Jimmy V
    Sorry guys, not going to make it this weekend.
    My son and I are catching my Wife's cold.
    I know this is a long term project so we will try to make it next time.
  • 01-21-2012
    fat-but-slow
    Lets do this
    Amigos,
    I'm at trail head, for those who care, bring it.;) The trail is developing- now headed north towards MEdicine Creek. It's gonna take lots of grooming, as there are mucho bowling ball sized rocks etc that need attention. However, this trail has it all . Climbing, swoops through creek beds, cross country open single track. Anyway , I'm headed out at 12:00 to further this trail. Come one-Come all.
    Adios
    BH
  • 01-31-2012
    mtbdon74
    Hello, my family is moving to Lawton in a couple weeks. Me,my nine year old son, and 12 year old daughter love to ride. Where we live now there are not very many mtb enthusiasts or trails. We are very excited to see there are trails in and around Lawton. Count us in for help when we get there.
  • 02-16-2012
    fat-but-slow
    Time to Rally.
    Welcome to Oklahoma and we need more good folks like you and your family. Ok folks, The weather will be PURRFECT for trail building in the coming weeks. We (mtb bike riders) received permission to GET WITH IT by the city of Lawton and the to establish a mtb. trail between Mt. Scott and Lake Lawtonka. I can not, I repeat, can not adequately describe the potential this Real Estate has. I've "hucked out" an additiional 3-4 miles of new trail to add to the awesome existing trail that runs adjacent to the fence. The new trail follows the bank of Lake Lawtonka .It's a classic cross country trail with tuff stuff and flow. Establishing a continuous loop is crucial, it is vital that others get involved. We also have the support from Friends of the Trails alliance for signage etc. We have momentum and need to see this through to completion so this is what we need:

    1. Enthused "or not enthused" volunteers to meet Saturday Mornings approx. 10:00 to assist the building of and the routing of this new trail. The terrain dictates repeated riding of the trail for it to get established. A handful will not get the job done.

    Btw: take time to choose a username , unlike I did. It's easier to change your social security number than to change your username on mtbr.com. But it's better than skinny - but - fast.
  • 02-16-2012
    fat-but-slow
    Oops where to meet?
    Take Med. Park Exit (hwy 49), go West approx. 6-7 miles to Cattle guard entrance of Wichita Mountain Wildlife Refuge, take first right (north) down dirt road to TH.
  • 02-16-2012
    mtbdon74
    We are gonna try and make it. We just got here a couple days ago. My kids are getting restless. All the bikes are in storage and after a couple bad load shifts, they all need work. Do you have a blog or FB page? We would like to keep up to date on what's going on.
  • 02-17-2012
    fat-but-slow
    This is it.
    Sounds great. I'll be there with my "needing repair" bike as well. I've waited for a week for a tool to seperate my cassette from my hub. I guess I have a "boutique" bike needing special tools. Anyway I'll give it a go, as my cassette spins freely from my hub at the worse times. Ok I'll drop the violin.
    I'll be at TH approx. 10;00 and would be psyched to lead you over the new stuff and perhaps get something going on improving it. btw: my business webpage is Elgin Oklahoma New Homes (<elgin cool stuff> on right side has a bit of info and will have more in future). For the time being this will serve as the purpose of info dispersal. Unless someone else has a better idea.
  • 02-17-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    I'm planning on heading out there in the morning. So is this trail building and riding tomorrow?
    Should I bring tools?
  • 02-18-2012
    fat-but-slow
    HI fly Hi
    Yes, sir. I plan to be there regardless of the nasty weather. Perhaps I-we can ride what has been established so that everyone will know the course and continue to improve it.
    See y'all there
  • 02-18-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    After looking at the radar I'm gonna skip it today.
  • 02-18-2012
    fat-but-slow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fly2Hi96 View Post
    After looking at the radar I'm gonna skip it today.

    No problem Fly hi, I look forward to riding with ya soon.
  • 02-18-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    If anyone is going to be out there tomorrow I would like to check it out. If not is it easy to find the trailhead and trails?
  • 02-19-2012
    Jimmy V
    Sorry Fly2hi, I just looked at this.
    My Son in law and I rode the trail today.
    We started about 1100 hrs. It was damp.
    But beautiful today, just as predicted.
    We saw nobody else out.
    See you next time.
    JV
  • 02-19-2012
    Jimmy V
    Oh, your 1st time out to Medicine Park
    I recommend you go with someone that knows the trail.
    The trail head is not too hard to find, but it would be best
    to meet one of the regulars.
  • 02-21-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jimmy V View Post
    Sorry Fly2hi, I just looked at this.
    My Son in law and I rode the trail today.
    We started about 1100 hrs. It was damp.
    But beautiful today, just as predicted.
    We saw nobody else out.
    See you next time.
    JV

    No worries...If you guys are going to work on the trails this weekend post up and I'll be glad to help. It will be nice having a place to ride closer to home.

    Dave
  • 02-24-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    The weather looks good and if anyone is going out there this weekend I would appreciate the nickel tour and even supply the post ride beverages.
  • 02-25-2012
    Jimmy V
    Fly2hi, I guess I need to post more
    as I am not qualified to PM anyone
    until I have 20 posts. Anyway I'll be
    heading out in about an hour. I am
    also not qual to give the nickel tour,
    but the free one I can do.
  • 02-25-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jimmy V View Post
    Fly2hi, I guess I need to post more
    as I am not qualified to PM anyone
    until I have 20 posts. Anyway I'll be
    heading out in about an hour. I am
    also not qual to give the nickel tour,
    but the free one I can do.

    I live in Duncan so it will be more like an hour and half by the time I pack up and get there. If that works I'm definitely in. To get to the trail head I cross the cattle guard and take a right on the dirt road? How far down the dirt road?

    Thanks
    Dave
  • 02-25-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    Thanks for the tour guys and it was great meeting everyone. I'm going to head out in the morning and do some trimming and some more exploring on the new sections. This place has the potential to be one of the best in the state.:thumbsup:
  • 02-25-2012
    fat-but-slow
    Boots and tires on the ground
    Excellent. We need your assistance, and more riders like JimmyV riding and establishing a great trail system . Ironically I'm headed to Duncan to spectate my sons triathlon. He's going off approx. 11 am after that I'm headed back to the trail. I agree with your assessment , with a little more work we can connect the existing to the new. As you can attest, the possibilities are sky high as the trail heads north toward Medicine Creek. Anyway, it was great meeting you and bring it . It is surreal to thing something with that much potential is so close. OK I will quit gushing.
    I have told more than a few to meet at 2 tomorrow, so I plan to be near the entry at that time, however whoever can come and get busy whenever......
  • 02-27-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    6 Attachment(s)
    Here's a map of what we rode on Sunday plus some pics I took earlier in the day. This trail is gonna rock! :band:
  • 02-28-2012
    fat-but-slow
    flytohi,

    The future of this place is looking good. I am excited to get back out there and clear some more territory. Do you have an "approx." mileage of the track we rode Sunday?
  • 02-29-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    1 Attachment(s)
    Probably just north of 5 miles. Take a look at the image below. The yellow represents what I understand already exists although I understand it's not well established. The blue represents what I suggest we could do to quickly have a loop made. If we head west at the end of what you started and connect to the same trail we picked up after our adventure in the bush and then head north instead of south I believe that loops around and connects to the well established trail. Does that make sense? I'm going out there tomorrow morning to do some more exploring and trimming and to see if I can follow that north loop.
  • 03-02-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    I'll be at the trail head tomorrow morning at 11:00 and plan on doing some trail work and some riding if anyone wants to join in the fun.

    Dave
  • 03-02-2012
    Jimmy V
    The map and pic's are awesome!
    I'm not gong to make it out Saturday.
    I'll be at the Catholic Men's conference.
    Hope to see you next time.

    Jim
  • 03-02-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jimmy V View Post
    The map and pic's are awesome!
    I'm not gong to make it out Saturday.
    I'll be at the Catholic Men's conference.
    Hope to see you next time.

    Jim

    Sorry you can't make it. I have some tires for Tyler that I'll bring next time you guys come out.
  • 03-03-2012
    Jimmy V
    Thank you, have fun.
  • 03-03-2012
    BoomerBrian
    This looks promising and a nice terrain change from the usual Oklahoma terrain. I am going to try and come check this out soon.
  • 03-04-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    1 Attachment(s)
    New Map
    The areas between the yellow and blue hash marks still need trimming (going counter-clockwise) so if anyone gets a chance please work these areas. The only section of trail that is not well defined yet is the section between the blue hash marks. However, it is flagged and starting to wear in so it's pretty easy to follow. Besides the trimming what this trail needs most is riders so go get some! :thumbsup:

    I didn't get a good mileage figure because I skipped the first area that follows the shore (the green line I painted in) but my guestimate is 7 miles and 700 feet of climbing.

    Fat-but-slow you did an awesome job laying out all of the new trail. I got off on the wrong line going into the woods after the second field and didn't notice until I had trimmed all the way to the bottom. I left it that way for now but we can go back and adjust the line later.
  • 03-04-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BoomerBrian View Post
    This looks promising and a nice terrain change from the usual Oklahoma terrain. I am going to try and come check this out soon.

    Yes it is very promising and the more time I spend out there the more possibilities I see. Any time you want to head down just post here and I'll be glad to show you around.

    Dave
  • 03-04-2012
    fat-but-slow
    Fly2hi,

    I hiked the trail today with my family. The work you have recently done really shows. This trail is now ready for prime time. I and everyone else who gets to enjoy and ride this awesome trail thanks you. The clearing through the briar you did is priceless. I will second your opinion that this track now needs riders, and I am certain they will not be disappointed. The trail we have established is a great ride, with countless options in the future.. Once again, THANK YOU.

    How to get to TH:
    1. hwy 49 thru Medicine Park Ok.
    2. Cross cattle gaurd to Wichita Mountain Wildlife Refuge
    3. Take first right to dirt road to Trail Head.
  • 03-12-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    I'm riding Wednesday evening if anyone wants join me. I should be there by 6:00,
  • 03-15-2012
    fat-but-slow
    Fly2hi,
    Sorry I missed the ride Wed. We rode Tuesday and plan to ride tonite. Approx. 5 ish. Open to anyone who wants to see - ride the new trail along the Lake.
  • 03-15-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    I'll be out Saturday morning at 11:00 and I'm bringing someone new to MTB'ing so if anyone else out there wants a slow tour of the route I'll be glad to give the tour.
  • 03-16-2012
    Jimmy V
    Anyone going out this evening? We'll be at the trailhead about 5:00-5:30.
    Will wait a bit longer if I get a reply.
    Jim.
  • 03-19-2012
    Jimmy V
    Our Friday evening ride was amazing. We would like to extent as solid heartfelt Thank you for the work that has been done on these trails. We just kept saying, WOW! Over and over. We took the established trail North to the fork where newer trail veers Northwest and the established trail goes west. We followed this counter clockwise around to the yellow on the map. This is where I've had 2 sidewalk flats, where the blaze orange stocking cap is in the tree. This time the trail was a joy and when we saw it connected back to the established trail at the big mossy rock we had to stop and take it all in. My 13 year old was really stoked! I'm sure this had nothing to do with his new bike, a 2012 Specialized Camber Expert 26". Dan @ the KroOKed KranK got it in for us. Its such a sweet mount. Anyway, anyone who rides this area and you haven't been out in a while, you must get out there. To anyone new here looking for the best singletrack in the regon, this is it!
    Again to fat-but-slow, Fly2Hi96 and everyone else that works on or rides these awsome trails,
    Thank you! From me and my family.
    Jim.
  • 03-19-2012
    BoomerBrian
    Do they have ride arounds for the technical sections? Would like to take my 10 year old or is it too technical. He currently rides Draper minus the red trail.
  • 03-19-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BoomerBrian View Post
    Do they have ride arounds for the technical sections? Would like to take my 10 year old or is it too technical. He currently rides Draper minus the red trail.

    There are no ride arounds (we just finished the loop) and there are sections that he would have to walk due to rocks and or steep climbs or descents. I have a 9 year old daughter and she could ride 90% of the trail but I would have to help her with the other 10%. There are also a couple of places where the trail is hard to follow but I hope to have that worked out this weekend. IMO the trail is most similar to Murray but there are some sections that are more technical.

    Hope that helps.
    Dave
  • 03-26-2012
    EyeLook@Rocks
    Awesome work!
    Thanks guys, this looks and sounds amazing. I can't wait to get out and ride here in the next couple weekends!
  • 05-02-2012
    jfraser73
    I live in Altus, ok and need to find a riding group to do regular rides with. I usually ride Tom Steed or Medicine park trail. If anyone is interested in getting a ride group together let me know.
  • 06-13-2012
    Kmill
    Just rode the trail last wknd. Awesome.
  • 06-15-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kmill View Post
    Just rode the trail last wknd. Awesome.

    Thanks for the update. I had not been going there because I figured it would be overgrown from lack of use
  • 06-15-2012
    Kmill
    The trail bed is solid. the main loop had some grassy areas on each side of the trail but nothing that wasn't rideable. We had a blast and saw others on the trail doin the same. Thanks for everyones hard work, we cleaned up the track wherever we found down limbs and such too. I will try to ride this track at least once a week. Hope to see u guys there too
  • 06-16-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    There is a small group of us riding today at 5:30. All are welcome and it's a no drop ride.
  • 06-17-2012
    andrewquyendao
    I am new to Lawton, Looking to mountain bike on the trails around here. Looking for a group to ride with. please email me.
  • 06-17-2012
    andrewquyendao
    Hey Fly, could you email me your information like email address, etc. I'd love to ride you guys out there. (andrewquyendao@yahoo.com)
  • 06-18-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andrewquyendao View Post
    Hey Fly, could you email me your information like email address, etc. I'd love to ride you guys out there. (andrewquyendao@yahoo.com)

    I would be glad to show you around. I'm going to try and get out there Tuesday or Wednesday evening this week at around 6:00. This weekend is out as I am going to Taos to ride some real mountains. :D

    I'll also send you my email.

    Dave
  • 06-19-2012
    Yukon29&single
    Is there any place to find trails/maps near the refuge? I have read a lot of posts and really wanna try them out. I'm from OKC and have hiked and climbed in the refuge a lot, just looking to bike some. Any help would be appreciated.
  • 06-19-2012
    Kmill
    There's a visitor centre in the refuge with maps and info but I'm pretty sure the only biking on the refuge can be done on the firebreak trail. I have heard of at least one ranger there that gives us a hard time, it's a $200 fine for riding on any other trail than the firebreak. I have even heard of guys getting in trouble for riding the access trail to the fence to the trail in this forum, though I never have. Ride the trail mentioned in
    This forum, it's the best in the mountains.👍
  • 06-20-2012
    Jimmy V
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Yukon29&single View Post
    Is there any place to find trails/maps near the refuge? I have read a lot of posts and really wanna try them out. I'm from OKC and have hiked and climbed in the refuge a lot, just looking to bike some. Any help would be appreciated.

    See posts #29-37, Fly2Hi96 plotted the route and it's about as good as it gets for this riding area. Get with someone on this thread for your 1st ride and you will have a good time.
  • 06-20-2012
    andrewquyendao
    Gated??????
    So i went to the trail head, today, and could not find a way through the gates?? do you ride around it? or hop over the steps? Whats up?
  • 06-20-2012
    Kmill
    Read all of this forum. Page 2 has great pics too
  • 06-20-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    1 Attachment(s)
    OK... the red on the map is the main trail and is well worn in and rockin'. The yellow trail was cut late in the spring and may be hard to follow; it's been a while since I've ridden it. Pick your bike up and climb over the steps ( the trails are on the city of Lawton property not the refuge) and head due north. When you come to the "Y" just make a loop in either direction. As soon as fall gets here I'll be back out cutting new trail with the goal of a good 10 mile loop by next summer. Of course all help will be appreciated. :) I'll be gone this weekend but when I get back I'm going to go out and check out the new trail and see if it can be followed. JimmyV may have ridden it since I have and may have a better idea of conditions.
  • 06-20-2012
    andrewquyendao
    Ahh gotcha gotcha, so i was in the right spot.
  • 06-20-2012
    andrewquyendao
    fgdfgdgdfg
  • 06-20-2012
    andrewquyendao
    Ahh so iu was right next to the trail whenevefr i went out ther.e I'll ride it 100% next time i go out there.

  • 06-20-2012
    andrewquyendao
    I rode the firebreak trail once again, since i didnt know we were allowed to climb the stairs, Firebreak trail was alright, not many spots to pick up speed though, its all flat. ran into a buffalko/bison though

  • 06-20-2012
    Kmill
    I rode the yellow trail a couple wks ago and it was ok on the far end just gotta keep your head up to stay on the trail. Look for the markers they are up in the trees above the trail. From the far end of the yellow heading back near the lake it looks like an atv blazed through it, super grassy but rideable. Watch for hidden rocks. Once the yellow trail wears in it has the best view of the lake.
  • 06-20-2012
    andrewquyendao
    Anyone going to ride tommorow (Thursday, June 21)? Hit me up. (682)-478-7604.
  • 06-29-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    Saturday/Sunday Ride
    Anyone interested in riding Medicine Park tomorrow?

    I'm also riding Sunday morning in Wichita Falls if anyone wants to go.
  • 06-30-2012
    Creavis81
    Too bad I'm working. Are u riding the wee-chi-tah trail? I ride that trail when I get a chance to but since seeing this thread I think I will bring my bike with me to work one day/night and go try this trail by the refuge. How does it compare to the trail in WF?
  • 07-02-2012
    CoreyWhite68
    At one point a year or so ago there were some trails started near Big Rock. Any idea what the status of those trails are?
  • 07-02-2012
    CoreyWhite68
    ??? U sure u rode all of Firebreak? It has a number of climbs. Much more than the Medicine Park loop. Some r tough enough that my 32/19 singlespeed requires me to stand up n grind. The back sides of the climbs have several places u can drill it for high speeds. Obviously not single track, but great training n fun. When u get to the turn around be sure to take a stroll thru the parallel forest. Pretty cool:-)
  • 07-02-2012
    Jimmy V
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CoreyWhite68 View Post
    ??? U sure u rode all of Firebreak? It has a number of climbs. Much more than the Medicine Park loop. Some r tough enough that my 32/19 singlespeed requires me to stand up n grind. The back sides of the climbs have several places u can drill it for high speeds. Obviously not single track, but great training n fun. When u get to the turn around be sure to take a stroll thru the parallel forest. Pretty cool:-)

    The Firebreak jeep trail is also about 6mi one way.
    Good cardio with a view.
  • 07-02-2012
    Jimmy V
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andrewquyendao View Post
    I rode the firebreak trail once again, since i didnt know we were allowed to climb the stairs, Firebreak trail was alright, not many spots to pick up speed though, its all flat. ran into a buffalko/bison though


    The it's all flat part of you statement leads me to believe you are not riding the "Firebreak".
    It has its share of elevation changes, of I'm a bigger wimp than I lead myself to believe.
  • 07-02-2012
    CoreyWhite68
    Ur not a wimp Jimmy V :) It's not a particularly technical trail/road, but it's by no means easy. An out and back is around 14 miles and you get between 1,100 and 1,200 feet of climbing.
  • 07-02-2012
    andrewquyendao
    The trail that I rode was labeled something like "unaltered bike trail" or something like that. I only went about 5 miles into it though. So i didnt get very far. haha The beginning of the trail is the best spot to get some speed. Idk which one is better though the trail where you have to Hop the Stairs is INSANE! I think i only got 5 miles into that as well. I was riding into nothing but spider webs.

    aint nothing but an heavy incline and rocks everywherre.
  • 07-02-2012
    andrewquyendao
    Its bloody hard to pick up speed going up an incline and going through some rocks. haha
  • 07-05-2012
    CoreyWhite68
    The Medicine Park trail is the one where you hop the big metal staircase. It is very difficult in the beginning, but much of the main loop (once you reach it) is much more rideable. It's basically about a mile or so lead in to the loop. I don't have exact mileage, but the main loop is only about 4 miles I think. Right now it's very grown up and the black flies tore us a new one this past Tuesday. The rocky lead-in is pretty hard, but it doesn't last very long:)

    As for the "unaltered bike trail" I'm not sure. Fire Break is accessible from the same LETRA Lake parking lot that you can use to access the Med. Park Trail. However, as you leave the parking lot you turn to your left (west) for just several hundred feet on the road. As you look to your right you'll see a jeep trail. That's Fire Break. If you go on ahead you'll see a little pullout and gravel road (gated with signs saying do not block gate) on the right hand (north) side of the road. Skirt around the gate and you are on Firebreak. It starts out pretty easy for the first 2 or 3 miles, but then starts hitting you with some pretty serious climbs. Be careful on some of the descents as there are several washouts and ruts where the park vehicles have been in there when muddy. You'll know you've reached the end when you have reached another parking lot at the end where the Parallel forest will be to your left. It's a nice place to catch a little shade before heading back the same way you came. Total trip will be about 14 miles (7 each way) and you should get about 1,100 to 1,200 feet of climbing. Be sure to have sealant in your tubes or tubeless tires as there are several patches of goat heads right on the main road.

    Hope that helps :)
  • 07-06-2012
    Jimmy V
    Anyone riding MP Saturday?
  • 07-06-2012
    Fly2Hi96
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jimmy V View Post
    Anyone riding MP Saturday?

    I can make it in the morning... gotta beat the heat.
  • 07-07-2012
    Jimmy V
    Short notice, sorry.
    A small group is meeting at the trailhead @6:30PM if anyone wants to ride.
  • 07-09-2012
    jfraser73
    Anybody riding this week?
  • 07-10-2012
    fat-but-slow
    Trail update:

    The established portion of Lawtonka Trail is "as always" good to go. The abundant rains this spring has basically "camoflauged" the new portion with tall grass. In spite of this, the trail has a solid future, in that Lawton Parks and Rec. recorded a complete gps route and told me they were committed to adding signage, etc. Also, the cumbersome walk ladder required to access this trail is to be replaced with the help of the Wichita Mountain Refuge (Federal Assistance).

    Btw: If anyone in charge is reading... We are ready for the new ladder, as it's about wasp season and getting hammered on top the ladder with a bike in one hand and 8.5 feet from ground is more mental toughness training than I can handle.

    So, in short, I am encouraged with the interest and the increasing numbers of riders. The more it is used, the better it will get. I am anxious for the "new part" to get more use, so we can have a "continuous loop" avoiding potential Head ons. . I know portions of the track near the fence has a few high speed blind corners that have me hollering "rider up".

    Perhaps before we have to "give it up" to the hunters in Oct. we can continue to grind the new stuff , slowly creating a track with flow, rhythm, and chunky goodness. Am I rambling? If so, I'll shut up for now and go ride.
  • 07-10-2012
    jfraser73
    A small group of us are riding Wednesday around 5 our 530 if anyone wants to join
  • 07-17-2012
    andrewquyendao
    Rode the Firebreak trail once again, I think its more fun to ride than the Medicine park trail (the one where you have to climb those stairs), I thought the Firebreak trail was easy but mann After about 2 miles into it, the climbs and drops start to kick in. I still have not finished it though, I rode about 5 miles into it and got wore out (100 degree weather does that)
  • 07-27-2012
    Jimmy V
    Will be at the single track trail head at 0700 Saturday if anyone would like to join.
    We have a party of 6 so far, 3 of them atr new.
    So this will be a patient ride. Hope to see some familiar faces, and new ones too!
  • 08-10-2012
    Jimmy V
    I have a small group meeting at the Medicne Park trail head at 0700 Saturday if anyone would like to join us.
    I'll check this before we start and wait a bit if I see someone is going to show.
  • 08-11-2012
    jpatt28
    I believe some of us from the city are looking to come down and ride this trail maybe within the next month. New to the site, normally browse oef forums but they are not as active. When we come down will definitely look for postings to see if anyone is riding.
  • 08-11-2012
    Jimmy V
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jpatt28 View Post
    I believe some of us from the city are looking to come down and ride this trail maybe within the next month. New to the site, normally browse oef forums but they are not as active. When we come down will definitely look for postings to see if anyone is riding.

    Sounds good.
  • 08-16-2012
    McLoafin
    There will be three of us riding the Lawtonka trail (what we call the Hoof Gullies) Saturday morning (8/18) at 8am if anyone want to join in. :thumbsup: 60% chance of rain, but maybe it'll hold out...
  • 08-17-2012
    Jimmy V
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by McLoafin View Post
    There will be three of us riding the Lawtonka trail (what we call the Hoof Gullies) Saturday morning (8/18) at 8am if anyone want to join in. :thumbsup: 60% chance of rain, but maybe it'll hold out...

    Planning to ride Wichataw Fall Saturday, unless they get any more rain.
    I that case we'll ride this one.
  • 08-24-2012
    Jimmy V
    We have a small group that is going to ride the single track this evening @ 1830, 6:30pm.
    Hope some of you can make it out.
  • 11-15-2012
    McLoafin
    Bump...only 9 more weeks until we can get back to riding the hoof gullies. The trails should really start to become more established and grow in 2013. Clear Bay, Draper, and Wee Chi Ta are all great, but the west side of Lawtonka has alot more potential and is much more challenging in my opinion.

    Hunting is over Jan. 15.
  • 11-15-2012
    Kmill
    Cant wait! Great article in last sundays paper, anyone know what the plans are for the "challenging trail" they had a map marking it in blue?
  • 11-30-2012
    McLoafin
    1 Attachment(s)
    Beginnings of a new trail along the south shore of Lake Lawtonka (south side of Tackle Box / lake frontage road). Goal is to parallel the road from the boathouse area to the dam. Just laying it out currently, but should turn out to be a very challenging trail that's convenient to access.
  • 11-30-2012
    McLoafin
    4 Attachment(s)
    Here's a few other trail maps for the area. 2012 Mountains of Mayhem on Ft. Sill, Lawtonka trails on city property, Mt. Scott fire road on the refuge, and an overall map. We are also currently working on establishing more trails in and around Medicine Park. Just in the planning/begging permission stage at this point, but if all works out, 2013 is going to be a start of a very nice trail system in the area.
  • 12-11-2012
    fat-but-slow
    Bump.
    Dear McLoafin,

    Thanks for the work, excellent trail beta. And thumbs up to the super cool bridge you dudes engineered. (Chad only watched) (wait a minute, did U do a load calc. test? - wheres the permit?)

    Rumor has is it that "ALL" are invited Saturday morning approx. 8:30 ish (near boathouses -School House Solough ) to continue the epic visionary trail to the Lawtonka dam. ALL ARE INVITED.

    Shut up and pedal.
  • 12-15-2012
    Jimmy V
    Had a great time guys, thanks.
    This trail system is looking sweet.
  • 01-22-2013
    fat-but-slow
    Thanks Ralph.
    For those who remember the treacherous "walk gate" between the Refuge and the Mtn. bike trail, well things have changed. Thanks to the work of Deputy Refuge Manager a new "super easy" walkway with self-closing gate has been installed. No longer will we be forced to ladder climb, bike carry, and be stung by wasps simultaneously. So, any and all can now access this rapidly improving trail. Pictures to follow.
  • 01-28-2013
    McLoafin
    1 Attachment(s)
    Photo of above mentioned gate. Thanks to the installers! Also, there is now a trail cut around the SW corner of the lake so you can ride straight from the dam and into the Hoof Gullies (Lawtonka Trails) without crossing the fence. There's currently only one small water crossing that will probably turn into a big water crossing when we get some rain.
  • 02-21-2013
    jfraser73
    When's the next ride? I'm ready to try out some new brakes.