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    The trail bed is solid. the main loop had some grassy areas on each side of the trail but nothing that wasn't rideable. We had a blast and saw others on the trail doin the same. Thanks for everyones hard work, we cleaned up the track wherever we found down limbs and such too. I will try to ride this track at least once a week. Hope to see u guys there too

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    There is a small group of us riding today at 5:30. All are welcome and it's a no drop ride.

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    I am new to Lawton, Looking to mountain bike on the trails around here. Looking for a group to ride with. please email me.

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    Hey Fly, could you email me your information like email address, etc. I'd love to ride you guys out there. (andrewquyendao@yahoo.com)

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewquyendao View Post
    Hey Fly, could you email me your information like email address, etc. I'd love to ride you guys out there. (andrewquyendao@yahoo.com)
    I would be glad to show you around. I'm going to try and get out there Tuesday or Wednesday evening this week at around 6:00. This weekend is out as I am going to Taos to ride some real mountains.

    I'll also send you my email.

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    Is there any place to find trails/maps near the refuge? I have read a lot of posts and really wanna try them out. I'm from OKC and have hiked and climbed in the refuge a lot, just looking to bike some. Any help would be appreciated.

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    Good job!

    There's a visitor centre in the refuge with maps and info but I'm pretty sure the only biking on the refuge can be done on the firebreak trail. I have heard of at least one ranger there that gives us a hard time, it's a $200 fine for riding on any other trail than the firebreak. I have even heard of guys getting in trouble for riding the access trail to the fence to the trail in this forum, though I never have. Ride the trail mentioned in
    This forum, it's the best in the mountains.👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon29&single View Post
    Is there any place to find trails/maps near the refuge? I have read a lot of posts and really wanna try them out. I'm from OKC and have hiked and climbed in the refuge a lot, just looking to bike some. Any help would be appreciated.
    See posts #29-37, Fly2Hi96 plotted the route and it's about as good as it gets for this riding area. Get with someone on this thread for your 1st ride and you will have a good time.

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    Gated??????

    So i went to the trail head, today, and could not find a way through the gates?? do you ride around it? or hop over the steps? Whats up?

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    Read all of this forum. Page 2 has great pics too

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    OK... the red on the map is the main trail and is well worn in and rockin'. The yellow trail was cut late in the spring and may be hard to follow; it's been a while since I've ridden it. Pick your bike up and climb over the steps ( the trails are on the city of Lawton property not the refuge) and head due north. When you come to the "Y" just make a loop in either direction. As soon as fall gets here I'll be back out cutting new trail with the goal of a good 10 mile loop by next summer. Of course all help will be appreciated. I'll be gone this weekend but when I get back I'm going to go out and check out the new trail and see if it can be followed. JimmyV may have ridden it since I have and may have a better idea of conditions.
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    Ahh gotcha gotcha, so i was in the right spot.

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    Ahh so iu was right next to the trail whenevefr i went out ther.e I'll ride it 100% next time i go out there.


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    I rode the firebreak trail once again, since i didnt know we were allowed to climb the stairs, Firebreak trail was alright, not many spots to pick up speed though, its all flat. ran into a buffalko/bison though


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    I rode the yellow trail a couple wks ago and it was ok on the far end just gotta keep your head up to stay on the trail. Look for the markers they are up in the trees above the trail. From the far end of the yellow heading back near the lake it looks like an atv blazed through it, super grassy but rideable. Watch for hidden rocks. Once the yellow trail wears in it has the best view of the lake.

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    Anyone going to ride tommorow (Thursday, June 21)? Hit me up. (682)-478-7604.

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    Saturday/Sunday Ride

    Anyone interested in riding Medicine Park tomorrow?

    I'm also riding Sunday morning in Wichita Falls if anyone wants to go.

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    Too bad I'm working. Are u riding the wee-chi-tah trail? I ride that trail when I get a chance to but since seeing this thread I think I will bring my bike with me to work one day/night and go try this trail by the refuge. How does it compare to the trail in WF?

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    At one point a year or so ago there were some trails started near Big Rock. Any idea what the status of those trails are?

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    ??? U sure u rode all of Firebreak? It has a number of climbs. Much more than the Medicine Park loop. Some r tough enough that my 32/19 singlespeed requires me to stand up n grind. The back sides of the climbs have several places u can drill it for high speeds. Obviously not single track, but great training n fun. When u get to the turn around be sure to take a stroll thru the parallel forest. Pretty cool:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoreyWhite68 View Post
    ??? U sure u rode all of Firebreak? It has a number of climbs. Much more than the Medicine Park loop. Some r tough enough that my 32/19 singlespeed requires me to stand up n grind. The back sides of the climbs have several places u can drill it for high speeds. Obviously not single track, but great training n fun. When u get to the turn around be sure to take a stroll thru the parallel forest. Pretty cool:-)
    The Firebreak jeep trail is also about 6mi one way.
    Good cardio with a view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewquyendao View Post
    I rode the firebreak trail once again, since i didnt know we were allowed to climb the stairs, Firebreak trail was alright, not many spots to pick up speed though, its all flat. ran into a buffalko/bison though

    The it's all flat part of you statement leads me to believe you are not riding the "Firebreak".
    It has its share of elevation changes, of I'm a bigger wimp than I lead myself to believe.

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    Ur not a wimp Jimmy V It's not a particularly technical trail/road, but it's by no means easy. An out and back is around 14 miles and you get between 1,100 and 1,200 feet of climbing.

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    The trail that I rode was labeled something like "unaltered bike trail" or something like that. I only went about 5 miles into it though. So i didnt get very far. haha The beginning of the trail is the best spot to get some speed. Idk which one is better though the trail where you have to Hop the Stairs is INSANE! I think i only got 5 miles into that as well. I was riding into nothing but spider webs.

    aint nothing but an heavy incline and rocks everywherre.

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    Its bloody hard to pick up speed going up an incline and going through some rocks. haha

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    The Medicine Park trail is the one where you hop the big metal staircase. It is very difficult in the beginning, but much of the main loop (once you reach it) is much more rideable. It's basically about a mile or so lead in to the loop. I don't have exact mileage, but the main loop is only about 4 miles I think. Right now it's very grown up and the black flies tore us a new one this past Tuesday. The rocky lead-in is pretty hard, but it doesn't last very long

    As for the "unaltered bike trail" I'm not sure. Fire Break is accessible from the same LETRA Lake parking lot that you can use to access the Med. Park Trail. However, as you leave the parking lot you turn to your left (west) for just several hundred feet on the road. As you look to your right you'll see a jeep trail. That's Fire Break. If you go on ahead you'll see a little pullout and gravel road (gated with signs saying do not block gate) on the right hand (north) side of the road. Skirt around the gate and you are on Firebreak. It starts out pretty easy for the first 2 or 3 miles, but then starts hitting you with some pretty serious climbs. Be careful on some of the descents as there are several washouts and ruts where the park vehicles have been in there when muddy. You'll know you've reached the end when you have reached another parking lot at the end where the Parallel forest will be to your left. It's a nice place to catch a little shade before heading back the same way you came. Total trip will be about 14 miles (7 each way) and you should get about 1,100 to 1,200 feet of climbing. Be sure to have sealant in your tubes or tubeless tires as there are several patches of goat heads right on the main road.

    Hope that helps

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    Anyone riding MP Saturday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy V View Post
    Anyone riding MP Saturday?
    I can make it in the morning... gotta beat the heat.

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    Short notice, sorry.
    A small group is meeting at the trailhead @6:30PM if anyone wants to ride.

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    Anybody riding this week?

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    Trail update:

    The established portion of Lawtonka Trail is "as always" good to go. The abundant rains this spring has basically "camoflauged" the new portion with tall grass. In spite of this, the trail has a solid future, in that Lawton Parks and Rec. recorded a complete gps route and told me they were committed to adding signage, etc. Also, the cumbersome walk ladder required to access this trail is to be replaced with the help of the Wichita Mountain Refuge (Federal Assistance).

    Btw: If anyone in charge is reading... We are ready for the new ladder, as it's about wasp season and getting hammered on top the ladder with a bike in one hand and 8.5 feet from ground is more mental toughness training than I can handle.

    So, in short, I am encouraged with the interest and the increasing numbers of riders. The more it is used, the better it will get. I am anxious for the "new part" to get more use, so we can have a "continuous loop" avoiding potential Head ons. . I know portions of the track near the fence has a few high speed blind corners that have me hollering "rider up".

    Perhaps before we have to "give it up" to the hunters in Oct. we can continue to grind the new stuff , slowly creating a track with flow, rhythm, and chunky goodness. Am I rambling? If so, I'll shut up for now and go ride.
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    A small group of us are riding Wednesday around 5 our 530 if anyone wants to join

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    Rode the Firebreak trail once again, I think its more fun to ride than the Medicine park trail (the one where you have to climb those stairs), I thought the Firebreak trail was easy but mann After about 2 miles into it, the climbs and drops start to kick in. I still have not finished it though, I rode about 5 miles into it and got wore out (100 degree weather does that)

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    Will be at the single track trail head at 0700 Saturday if anyone would like to join.
    We have a party of 6 so far, 3 of them atr new.
    So this will be a patient ride. Hope to see some familiar faces, and new ones too!

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    I have a small group meeting at the Medicne Park trail head at 0700 Saturday if anyone would like to join us.
    I'll check this before we start and wait a bit if I see someone is going to show.

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    I believe some of us from the city are looking to come down and ride this trail maybe within the next month. New to the site, normally browse oef forums but they are not as active. When we come down will definitely look for postings to see if anyone is riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpatt28 View Post
    I believe some of us from the city are looking to come down and ride this trail maybe within the next month. New to the site, normally browse oef forums but they are not as active. When we come down will definitely look for postings to see if anyone is riding.
    Sounds good.

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    There will be three of us riding the Lawtonka trail (what we call the Hoof Gullies) Saturday morning (8/18) at 8am if anyone want to join in. 60% chance of rain, but maybe it'll hold out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by McLoafin View Post
    There will be three of us riding the Lawtonka trail (what we call the Hoof Gullies) Saturday morning (8/18) at 8am if anyone want to join in. 60% chance of rain, but maybe it'll hold out...
    Planning to ride Wichataw Fall Saturday, unless they get any more rain.
    I that case we'll ride this one.

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    We have a small group that is going to ride the single track this evening @ 1830, 6:30pm.
    Hope some of you can make it out.

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    Bump...only 9 more weeks until we can get back to riding the hoof gullies. The trails should really start to become more established and grow in 2013. Clear Bay, Draper, and Wee Chi Ta are all great, but the west side of Lawtonka has alot more potential and is much more challenging in my opinion.

    Hunting is over Jan. 15.

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    Cant wait! Great article in last sundays paper, anyone know what the plans are for the "challenging trail" they had a map marking it in blue?

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    Beginnings of a new trail along the south shore of Lake Lawtonka (south side of Tackle Box / lake frontage road). Goal is to parallel the road from the boathouse area to the dam. Just laying it out currently, but should turn out to be a very challenging trail that's convenient to access.
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    Here's a few other trail maps for the area. 2012 Mountains of Mayhem on Ft. Sill, Lawtonka trails on city property, Mt. Scott fire road on the refuge, and an overall map. We are also currently working on establishing more trails in and around Medicine Park. Just in the planning/begging permission stage at this point, but if all works out, 2013 is going to be a start of a very nice trail system in the area.
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    Bump.

    Dear McLoafin,

    Thanks for the work, excellent trail beta. And thumbs up to the super cool bridge you dudes engineered. (Chad only watched) (wait a minute, did U do a load calc. test? - wheres the permit?)

    Rumor has is it that "ALL" are invited Saturday morning approx. 8:30 ish (near boathouses -School House Solough ) to continue the epic visionary trail to the Lawtonka dam. ALL ARE INVITED.

    Shut up and pedal.
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    Had a great time guys, thanks.
    This trail system is looking sweet.

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    Thanks Ralph.

    For those who remember the treacherous "walk gate" between the Refuge and the Mtn. bike trail, well things have changed. Thanks to the work of Deputy Refuge Manager a new "super easy" walkway with self-closing gate has been installed. No longer will we be forced to ladder climb, bike carry, and be stung by wasps simultaneously. So, any and all can now access this rapidly improving trail. Pictures to follow.
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    Photo of above mentioned gate. Thanks to the installers! Also, there is now a trail cut around the SW corner of the lake so you can ride straight from the dam and into the Hoof Gullies (Lawtonka Trails) without crossing the fence. There's currently only one small water crossing that will probably turn into a big water crossing when we get some rain.
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    When's the next ride? I'm ready to try out some new brakes.

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