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    Landon Nature Trail out of Topeka KS

    Anyone ride this lately? I lost track of where the trail ended and the pasture started around 89th, around mile 12 or so.

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    I haven't ridden it in quite awhile, but I'd be up for going out to explore it. PM me if you want a tag-along sometime. I ride from my home downtown and it always gets too dark too fast and I have to double-time home. I'm not a country boy, but I like to ride my bike in the country, but it's scary out there.

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    I certainly will do that. I ride during a weekday (work weekend nights at Amtrak station). The holiday Monday is going to scratch my long ride this week and the rain Sunday is going to scratch my Sunday morning trail ride at the Governor's mansion trails.

    But in the mean time I think I will drive the pickup out to 89th towards Overbrook and make sure there is a trail out there. I live in Kenwood (neighborhood just east of Potwin) so I'm pretty close to the trail head too. Will certainly get a hold of you.

    For a quick exercise ride, I like to head out on the east Shunga and hook up with the Deer Creek trail and back.

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    Google maps

    Looks like it ends there at 89th, but I really thought I'd ridden past there before. Probably should ride out and find out so we can let others around here know.

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    I found a trip report from a person that rode it about 38.6 or so miles south almost to I-35, and another report that has it connecting to Clinton Lake and various reports reporting sections here and there closed or open but a lot of them are dated. So, you are right, got to find out. I think I will run out there in the truck when I get time and see if I can find anything on the other side of 89th. I sure felt like I was riding across that farmer's front yard and into his cow pasture but there is a definite sign of a railroad right of way there. Might not be able to get away until sometime next week due to work and weather.

    Looking at that Lawrence River trail also, looks promising too.

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    I "grew up" riding LRT in the eighties, and it's a much more groomed trail than it ever was. I've ridden it more in the last month than I've ridden anything else. It changed a little bit after the flooding of the early-nineties, but it is a low-risk, high-reward ride. Hardly any technical riding, fairly flat, and it's as fast as you want to ride it. The flow is amazing, AND you can be there in 25 min from downtown Top-city.

    I was talking to a friend that has ridden The Landon to Clinton, so it goes through - somewhere. I'd be glad to bundle up, and head out there with you.

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    Excellent. So it does go through somehow. Will definitely have to find the key there. And I also see on the Kansas bicycle map that there is 25 miles of trail at Perry?

    Oh well, 2 more nights at the train station. Looks like I will get wet tonight. Wind almost blew me off the bike last night.

    And if that storm line comes through tonight, I won't be bothering the Governor at 6 in the morning at his house crashing on his trails after work.

    I guess I shouldn't complain, we need the rain.

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    I am from the Topeka area as well. I kinda wish they hadn't developed the Governor's / Menningers area into a state park. The "outback" areas used to be a relatively well kept secret amongst mountain bikers. I was out in the timber there the other day, and it is hard to be courteous to the hikers. I try my best, but the bike can only go so slow and you do need several feet of real estate to get around someone.

    Just a bit of information for your safety. If you go quite a ways east on the paved Shunga Trail, I personally, would carry something for self defense. At least a good sized bottle of pepper spray. It goes through some pretty tough neighborhoods. There have been several (gang related?) homicides within a couple hundred yards of the east end of the Shunga Trail. I have also stopped a dog attack with the Fox brand pepper spray I keep in my handlebar bag.

    A couple years ago a Pit Bull and a German Shepherd took out after me. The gal that was "walking" them did not even have them on a leash. I sprayed the German Shepherd as he was trying to latch onto my ankle. Thank goodness the Pit Bull didn't join in the attack as well!...................Be Safe!

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    I bike the Governors trail Sunday mornings, run 3 1/2 miles with the oldest Wednesday night, and hike it with the grandsons every chance I get. 99 percent of the time there is no problems with the opposing faction of the time but that 1 percent is sure a pain. They seem to keep working on it out west so maybe it will open up a bit. I'm glad there is a place like this that is close so I can be out on it pretty quick if an opportunity arises.

    Amen to the East end and don't forget the homeless camps out south during warmer times. I haven't had any people problems on the trails. (Plenty riding to work on 4th street at midnight though). The dog situation isn't getting any better and I will be getting some spray. My oldest daughter has been trying to get me to carry some for quite some time. I've had my share of dog dealings but have been lucky so far.

    Well, the doctors, weather, and holiday work schedules have kept me off 2 wheels for a week. Come Sunday A.M. after work, I will be out at the Governors trail doing my Kamakaze impression with my Stump Jumper and hopefully can get back to investigating the Landon trail next week.

    Have decided to put one of my M1 Carbines up for sale in the paper after Thanksgiving so I can buy me a Specialized crossover that I saw at Capps. The Schwinn Trailways just isn't doing it for me anymore.

    See you around

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    I haven't been past 29th personally. I typically take the trail from 29th and Gage on Shunga then venture that way.

    I've only had my bike for 2 weeks so i haven't had a chance to ride any other Dirt trails \ Bike Trails besides Shunga. I've roller-bladed Landon from the Expo Center to 29th a few times. It seems like a pretty well maintained unused trail. Shunga between Fairlawn and Washburn Ave get's pretty congested during the summer months.

    Have any of you rode Perry yet? I've been itching to get up there and at least scope the place out. I don't have a bike rack yet so transporting my MTB isn't happening any time soon.

    Looking forward to riding with some of you guys when it's nice. I don't have a nice bike just a cheap starter but it gets me pounding the dirt and payment for now. I'll be throwing up an intro in a few.

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    Welcome.

    Curious about Perry myself. I do a yearly night 5K trail run there and if that is representative of what is there, it will be quite the challenge. Trying to get more information and will certainly pass what I get along.

    Goofed big time today. After missing last week, I grabbed the bike after work this a.m. and headed out to the Governors trails. It was still dark when I got there so I didn't check the bike out and since it was just the Governors trail, I didn't bring my tools. Well, one of my bolts in the lower swing arm backed out and jammed into a sprocket so I had a mile and a half walk back to the truck. Came home and fixed the bike but was tired after being at work all night, so just called it quits and went to bed. I certainly learned a couple of lessons though.

    Just put a hitch on the truck for a rack so will be able to haul. I put the topper back on the truck for the winter so I needed a rack. Will certainly be open for riding with folks as the opportunity arises.

    Finding out about more trails all the time. A rail trail from Ottawa to Iola! The Flint Hills trail. etc. Can't wait. Don't know if I can get out this week as I'm waiting for some appointments to be set up and something called Thanksgiving happening this week, but if I don't get out soon, I will go crazy.

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    Cool! If your ever on down the Shunga Area and see a 5'8" ish guy on a Blue 26" full suspension bike wearing a Grey Helmet with a bunch of stickers on it say hi! I'd really like to meet some folks in the Topeka area that like getting out and having fun on bikes, blades, running, whatever. I've been trying all sorts of sports to lose weight. I started out at 270 a year and half ago and got down to 212. I'm sitting about 220 right now though. I started biking 2 weeks ago and i'm really enjoying it! Hopefully i'll see you around.

    PS I hope your bike is fixable that sounds like a real bummer!

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    Firecop, sorry to hear of your tribulation in "the hood". I live in the hood, am aware of the, ahem, "trouble" in the area, and I frequented that area growing up. There are loads of trolls and alarmists around this area (esp on forums). I'm not doubting the veracity of your claims of a dog attack though. Glad you were able to get away. I've ridden that part of the trail many times, and I've never had trouble. Not saying that others haven't, only that I haven't, and I've ridden it North, South, East, and West to the terminus in all directions. I don't like to ride West of Burlingame, as there is a certain 'entitlement' attitude of those that use it out that way. That and all the little kids and parents and dogs dawdling on that part of the trail make it nearly unuseable at times. I've seen people reading and walking at the same time on that thing! Going South from the Brown v. Board building is the best ride, IMO. I've seen deer 1 block South of the the building! I've never seen any homeless camps out South, but I have smelled them (I own businesses in NOTO, so I know what they smell like). I've encountered the most friendly people on the trail out South, between 37th and the Brown museum. There's almost always a greeting exchanged, while it rarely happens out West. Late summer (out South) a guy was walking his pitbull (off-leash), I called "rider" and he was very apologetic, and quick to call his dog back to him. I stopped and talked for a couple of minutes. Very nice guy that beside not having his dog leashed was a very responsible dog owner. Riding "urban" areas is different than riding trails, and it seems that our experiences and expectations on the same trail have been different. So T-town riders, ride South and East of you dare, or sort through snobby folks and their teeming brood out West. Arm yourself, or don't. Hopefully I won't be mistaken for a "stereotype" by the gun-toters using the system. Guns in this situation don't make me feel ANY safer.

    Perry is one of the best trails in the area. If you are a beginner, make sure that you know where you're going, and it might be best to NOT ride solo. It is a big, advanced(ish), well-designed, challenging trail. The thing is, is that for the same amount of windshield time you can ride LRT, Clinton, Brownbuck's residence, and Dornwood as well. If you want to avoid the crowd at The Mansion, and/or don't want to drive to Lawrence, I'd suggest trying Dornwood. Sure, naysayers and hand-wringers will tell you not to, but it's got a little bit of everything, and it's not huge. There are challenging sections, and there are flowy sections. There are a limited number of climbs. I rode Dornwood both Saturday and Sunday.

    SlakJak I know lots of different stuff that can be ridden around here. Feel free to PM me. I have Wed-Mon off, and I'm wanting to ride when I can.

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    You're right about knowing where you're going at Lake Perry trails. Quite a few years ago I went to the Perry trails when it was extremely hot and humid. We didn't have nearly enough water along and got pretty well lost. We "trespassed" into an adjoining property and filled our water bottles from their water spigot. After hours of wandering, we were finally able to find the parking lot again. Probably be a good idea to have a GPS on those trails next time. Nowadays, I always fill a CamelBak completely up for any ride.

    I actually have a 30 mile route I ride for cardio fitness that is based around the Shunga Trail. I cut out and climb the grass slope of Quinton Heights hill. I then go down the paved road by it, turn around and ride back up the paved hill. Riding up the sledding slope is a real leg and lung burner. I also hammer up the grass slopes behind the Expocentre a few times.

    I also know what you mean by the trail walkers on the western portion of Shunga. I know the signs say walkers have the right of way, but yeah....some folks are just rediculous. That super skinny gal that reads while she is walking has been doing that for years!

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    Lol i have seen the reading lady myself. I live near the gage end of Shunga so its convenient to ride that end. However there are alot of selfish trail hogs in the summer/ warmer months.

    Good info on Perry Lake. Maybe ill hold off for a bit. Is there any app that has these trails mapped out? Id hate to get lost in there in the summer months. Also i plan on trying the mansion and Dornwood out.

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    Actually, if I remember correctly there might be trail maps available at the sign board, located at the trail head of the Perry Trails. The only downfall is, I dont think they have contour lines like a topo map. That makes it difficult to track your location as you progress down the trails. The definitive tool would be a portable GPS that will track you back to your starting point, relatively effortlessly. I would love to have one, but funds are tight as far as "hobby" expeditures (if ya know what I mean).

    It might be worth a quick phone call to the Ranger or lake manager to see if they do have maps at the trail head, before you go. It has been quite a few years, but as I remember, you absolutely won't be dissapointed @ Perry. There is just miles and miles of good trails there.

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    Sounds pretty cool! I typically just use my phone using Endomondo to track my workouts. I've heard there is an Garmin app that is pretty accurate. I haven't looked into it though and its a paid app.

    I rode Shunga from Gage to Golden today. 14.04 miles and about hit a Chihuahua that was off a leash. The guy was pretty apologetic so i let it slide. Also paced with another MTB'r on a Trek super nice guy!

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    Hi guys

    Where's Dornwood?

    Good advice on the portable GPS's for new areas. I download where I've been to Garmin Connect from my FR405CX Great for history reviews but doesn't get me unlost. I have two ancient handheld GPS units from Garmin (Etrex Legend and Emap) from when this all started for civilians. They don't do much and have some trouble locking on out in the woods but one thing they are good for is that you can mark your starting position, turn it off and take it with you until you are hopelessly lost. Then you can turn it on and they will guide you back to the marked starting point. Anyone ever want to use one, just let me know.

    Got back out this a.m. at "Mr Brownback's" residence after yesterdays boner. Had one bike in the ravine and my face in the dirt experience but seem to be getting better on the technical stuff. Had a blast.

    Good work on the weight rynoman! Keep it up. I bike and run (hate running!). I'm afraid rollerblading would be too far from my skill set to attempt unless I was padded up like a football player. Firecop, I am certainly jealous of your hill climbing abilities. I had to walk up two of them today. I would like to blame the rocks but it's more conditioning I'm afraid. And Expost, I will certainly get ahold of you when things free up for a good ride in a strange place. Still want to drive out south to make sure I'm on the right trail down there. Might sneak out and do that Thanksgiving morning to get out of wife and daughters turkey torturing rituals.

    See everyone around.

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    25th and Golden.

    It's under the trail tab on the site actually.

    I haven't been there yet but I hear its a decent area to ride. I have a co-worker that lives in that area. He said he's walked it but never rode it and claims it looks like it would be pretty fun.

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    If you have a smartphone, just use Everytrail for tracking your rides. There are versions for WinMobile, Android, and iOS. That's all I've ever used. I haven't ever used the Droid one, and I'm sure there are better apps for doing it, but it's always done what I wanted it to do. I have all sorts of different types of rides on there. You can take a pic and it plots it on your track at the place where you took it.

    If you are new or not a seasoned rider, I'd suggest (in order of ascending difficulty) riding Landon trail, LRT, Dornwood, (parts of) the Gov's, Clinton, THEN Perry. There is a bunch of crazy terrain at Perry that is exposed due to the lack of rain, so there is a great deal of riding like you've never seen before, and will likely not ever see again if the lake gets back up to normal pool. If you've ever wanted to ride somewhere that looks like it's from a sci-fi movie, Perry's the place, and the time is now. There are parts of Clinton and Perry that are "tame" but there are parts that can be unforgiving. I work with the designer/caretaker of that trail, and it's an amazing place to ride. I don't ride it enough, and I don't really know it that well. I know Dornwood well, and I'm learning the Gov's pretty well. LRT can be ridden by most anyone, and the risk v. reward of riding there makes it incredibly fun. Not much risk, but high reward. It's pretty easy to stay on the right path: it's pretty much keep left, and it's a huge loop. LRT was my "home" trail in the Eighties and I first rode a bike on the (meant for hiking) trails at D'wood about 35+ years ago. I started again when we moved back here. Maps for most any of these trails can be found online if not at the trailhead. Dornwood got a board about 3 weeks ago. I have yet to look at it though, so I don't know what's on it. It is a very fun trail. It's short, but you're never far from the parking lot in case you have to walk out, and you can chain the loops together in a million different ways to make it different as you like. I rode the same route Sat and Sun.

    Thought I was the only one that ever rode a bike up QH hill. Good to hear that there are other fools around that do it too.

    I've seen other readwalkers on the trail since I first started seeing 'walking death' lady. She started a trend - respect.

    I'll probably ride Wed/Thurs, then I'll probably ride in Dallas at some point during the weekend. If I don't go, and if the weather holds, I'm sure I'll be all over the place around here. I might even it Perry.

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    Cool! I have a Droid Razr and I currently use Endomondo. I could try EveryTrail though. I've heard alot of folks like Strava. I think i'm going to pool my Xmas money to get a bike rack so I can travel to all these cool places and ride.

    No i'm not a seasoned rider yet. I haven't rode much since college in 2003. Even then I wasn't seasoned. I would like to ride with some of you folks sometime to learn a thing or two.

    I got a noob question for you all. What do you all do for hydration just use a camelbak? Also whats some basic gear that is a must have? I have a helmet, allen wrench, and baggy riding shorts with Lycra / padding inside.

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    Found this: Dornwood Park, KS, USA, Earth - Geody
    Looks like the maps can be found lots of places. I didn't go through to check, but it looks like some might cost. I'm not into that.

    Your question isn't *that* much of a noob question. I use a Camelbak in all seasons if I'm going to ride more than 10min. I don't know what "industry standard" is, and I don't really care. I use/do what works for me. You will find out more about what you need the more you ride. As for basic gear, do you mean for working on your bike or do you mean for riding? If you've got lycra and foam/gel in the seat of your shorts you're ahead of me.

    We're heading into cold weather, and I've never bought cold weather riding gear. I've always ridden or at least tried to ride first snow NO MATTER WHAT, and I've mostly just used Columbia snowboarding/ski pants, mittens, layers (do your research and experiment), etc. If you're planning to ride through the winter Einstein's would be a good place to start. If you tell them what you're wanting to do, I'm sure they can help you find some good gear at a great price. They are very helpful and they have products that tend to be a great value. Keep your money local when you can.

    If you want a tool list, search around the site. The 'Search' function on here is pretty good. You can also PM me if you have questions about what you find. I don't know a TON, but I haven't ridden a bike that I haven't built-up for quite awhile, and I think the last bike I bought from a shop was in '94(?). They offer classes at the collective downtown, near 4th and Kansas, just South and West of the Law Enforcement Ctr/across from the downtown PO. I think they are free, or by donation.

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    PM'ing you.

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    Wow really hate this 10 post rule.

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    Thanks for the info on Dornwood. Never noticed the tab before! Lots more to look at.

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    Oh ya that's what directed me to the site honestly. I was looking for local tails and came across this site via google. Be sure to rate the trails too. Also there seems to be a Bike Shop Tab too. Add any you have been to. I added Capps.

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    Jerry's and the Collective are other shops in the area. Jerry's used to be a great shop, and Capp's always has been. Go to any and/or all of them. They all offer a different experience. Rate them all.

    BTW, there will be a night-ride (lights) at Dornwood on Tues. I think there are actually 2 groups: an "earlier" (before dark into dark) and a "later" ride (well after dark methinks). I don't think I can make it, but I'm going to try.

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    I work sun-wed 12noon to 1030pm so I won't be making those

    Plus I have no night lights
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    I'll be at the opposite end of town at Menards picking up some cabinets. If things go smooth, might check out the later one.

    I use the Petzl Tikka Plus 2 for running and biking on the trails. Just had to order a new one because of a battery leak in mine. Expensive battery leak.

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    Get some good cheap flashlights and some O-rings. Put the light on your bar, throw the ring over the light, then stretch it around the bar and over the back end of the light, and you're golden. I use 2 of them rigged that way. The guys I've ever ridden with have expensive lights, so I don't need that much light - though some of them use lights even lower-tech than mine.

    I have a headlamp, but it was a freebie from BrandNewSantaFe shops. I haven't used it yet, but I've used a considerably cheaper one (bought in an alley in Athens, Greece for .5 Euro), and it worked pretty well w/ the 2 bar rigs. The BNSF one should really light it up.

    I have some other stuff to do, but I might shirk it and show up.

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    Well you guys have fun tonight! I will be there in spirit!

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    No cabinets, no bike ride, waste of an evening. If it wasn't for AC/DC coming out on iTunes today, I would really be questioning the meaning of life tonight.

    I didn't really care about lights until one of my daughters who is a rabid runner turned me on to the Petzl. I only use it on the trails. Rest of the time, I use other stuff. She has now decided to work on my hydration needs. Will see what I end up with.

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    That stinks. I take it you just wear the Petzl on top of your helmet eh? I have a light similar to that I got from somewhere maybe a stocking stuffer. I keep it in my car in-case i need to work on something at night.

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    Nah, it slides up and off the helmet, so I just wear it normal. Probably not the optimum arrangement. Looking for a new helmet for the wife to buy me for Christmas so will be taking that into account.

    The daughter and I will be out at the trails for our Wednesday night run at the Governors place tonight. If any of you trail riders want to go out in front and knock down spider webs for us, we would appreciate it. We start off between 8:45 & 9. But I do enjoy her scream when she eats a web.

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    Night riding's pretty fun eh? Man I wish i had tonight off. I'm always off Thur-Sat from work. I also wish I had a way to haul the bike.

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    Webs?! This time of year? I haven't seen a web since...I don't know when the last one I saw was. They weren't as bad this summer/fall as they have been in years past. I guess I'm not getting out to the trail early/late enough to have dealt w/ any. 3 years ago I had a contraption on my bike to take them down in front of me. Worked well.

    If I can get someone to go out there and ride tonight, I might show up. Black carbon, no-branded frame...you probably wouldn't see me anyway unless you see my lights. Haha.

    Enjoy the run.

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    Black like a ninja, his carbon bike stalks its prey. If you see this creature in the wild you may only spot him by the whites of his headlights.

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    Its funny you mention the spider webs @ the Governor's & Menninger trails. I was up there several years ago and they were THICK! I had some good sized zip ties in my bike bag. I ended up lashing a branch onto my handlebars to knock them down ahead of me. Got some strange looks from other bikers......but, hey it worked!

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    There weren't any last week but figured there might be a few with today's temps. Since she's tons faster, daughter eats most of them anyway. The only time a bike has sneaked up on me out there running is by the train tracks with one is going by. With the leaves gone, you can see any light from quite a distance.

    I hate every second of running but I figure it's good conditioning for the bike riding.

    Going to try and drive out south tomorrow to scout some trail, Ride Governor's Sunday a.m. and try Dornwood on Monday. Want to ride to Clinton or do something at Perry 1st or 2nd week in December.

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    Where do you all park for the Governors? I looked at the area via google maps today. Looks like alot of trails!

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    rynoman03:

    RE: Governor's Trail parking:

    There are 2 parking lots along 6th ST. 1 is adjacent to the ponds, down in the SW corner of the Governor property. You can also park in a small parking lot on west of there. That lot is actually in the Kaw River State Park area. A 3rd parking lot is right next to the Governor's mansion. Just take the access road off of Fairlawn. It will take you right past the front of the mansion. Keep heading north and that drive deadends into a parking area. You will then see trailhead signs.

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    By the way HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all you Topeka area bikin' folks!

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    And a Happy Thanksgiving to everyone too!

    Drove out south this morning. The trail is blocked off and posted on the south side of 89th. I drove on east to Shadden and took that south to try and pick it up again. Ran into the Clinton Wildlife area for public hunting, fishing, and trapping. Looked like a lot of trails there. Lot of hunters too. I have to guess that one of them is the right of way but I'm not too keen on riding through a hunting area so I will end it at 89th until I find out something else or they develop it more.

    Nice drive. Think it took me as long to get there in the truck as it did on the bike. A lot more direct way with the bike.

    We park by the Governor's residence for running and at the State Park lot on 6th for biking.

    No spider webs last night but a bunny rabbit almost got peppered sprayed. A lesson to be learned. Be still and quiet in the bushes when the older daughter runs by you.

    Now a smoked turkey and I have an issue to resolve.

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    Nice. Happy Turkey Day to you all as well.

    I might drive up there tomorrow and check it out more. I drove up Wanamaker to the KS Wildlife parking lot by Menigers. It appears some trails start there too!

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    Yep, you can connect with all the others from there. Might take a bit to find your way around but that's part of the fun. I haven't seen any maps of the trails on the west side of the State Park road yet but those on the east side are pretty well mapped.

    The only down side in starting a trail ride from there is that no matter what, it's uphill back to where you parked.

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    Gotcha. What app are you using that has the area mapped? Or do you have one of those Garmin Edge's ?

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    Govs/Landon

    I'll see if I can't link to one of my maps of it. I always park right there next to the Mansion.

    The trail is expanding, and that stuff up by the old Menningers is great when you get up there. You get to ride on the old access road for 100 yards, then you drop back onto the trail going north - near the gate as I remember. There is a great deal of climbing on that trail, and it never seems that you descend very much. The climbing isn't as bad as it seems because of all the switchbacks. Maybe I was just "feeling it" last time I was out there, but it didn't seem so bad. I ride a 1x9, and I really wasn't shifting all that much. I was going to ride it w/ some guys I ride w/ today, but I slept too late and had to go to family dinner. Might go tomorrow.

    It's strange how long it takes to get way out south in a car, and how quickly you can get there on a bike. I'm glad that someone else has experienced that, because it's not something that I like to mention. People think you're crazy. If I ride steady, not hard, but not dawdling, I can get to 53rd and back downtown in an hour and (small) change. If I go to 45th and back home, it's almost an hour dead. I'm going to TX on Friday night, but if the weather doesn't get crazy, let's get it together and all of us ride out and see what we can find. I might take the bike to 53rd or 61st (wherever the lot is), and take a quick little ride out to 89th. If we don't see hunters' cars we might be able to poke around enough to find which trails go where. One of the guys I was supposed to ride w/ today has ridden it to the lake. I will email him, and report back on how he went. I know the gravel route, but if there's a trail, I'd rather use it.

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    Waiting on the email.

    I must not have had my GPS running last time I rode at the Mansion, because the other maps I had were of rides that didn't go clear up to the SW part of the trail.
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    How many miles from the Landon Shunga Intersect is that to 89th? I'm pretty new to biking i get wore out after awhile. Usually by the time I get done with my 14mile i'm pooped.

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    rynoman - KTC has a PDF detailed map on their site. Their site is down today and I had thought I had downloaded the file but I guess I didn't because I can't find it. You can also pick up a copy of the maps at the entrance to the trails by the Governor's residence. I will keep on trying it today and send you the link when I get it. The day I rode out south, I parked by the skate park at 21st & Washburn because I wasn't sure where I was going that day. From there and back it was 25 miles. It was pretty flat all the way. Fought a strong north wind on the way back but other than that it wasn't a bad ride. The skinny tires on my Schwinn made me work harder than I wanted to on the bigger rocked sections but that was only a mile or so. The trail is really too tame for my Stump Jumper. The ad for my carbine starts in the paper tomorrow so hopefully I'm not too far away from a decent crossover.

    expost - you must have been in the zone that day. If we are talking about the same section of trails, those are pretty rough. The climb wasn't bad but those rocks and ties the whole way up on them were a monster to me. I couldn't keep going and you know how hard it is to start mid hill after stopped. I am going to have to do some more hill work before tackling those particular ones again. Looking at the map, Clinton Lake is right down 89th there. Looks closer to that than back to Topeka at that point. Hopefully your friend will provide the key. It has to be east on 89th and south on Ratner, Shawnee Heights, or Shadden somewhere. I assume it has to follow that creek somehow. And yes, used up a 1/4 tank of gas fooling around out there yesterday. The bike is the quickest way to get there.

    My run on the streets this morning was cold! That northwest wind was killer.
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    Ya the wind gusts are 20-30 mph. I'm going to ride to the inlaws a mile away to get my bike rims true'd and thats bout it for today unless that wind dies down!

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    Drove out to Dornwood. Not a bad area. Not the best part of town but i'm sure it's fine over in that sub-district if you mind your own business. I have a co worker that lives in those townhomes.

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    Rode from 29th & Gage to Dornwood and back today. Trying to map it out as my phone died 15 min into the ride even though it said full charge. Did about a 20-25mi ride from what I can tell by satellite.

    Thanks expostdelirium for the map draw out! That big hill on Dornwood kicked my ass! As did the 25th street run from Dornwood to Landon Trail. Soo many hills!

    If any of you haven't rode Dornwood give it a whirl! I only rode the outside edge but the place is huge and full of trails and off shooting trails.

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    Will try and get out there tomorrow. Is the parking OK out there? Had a head on with a tree at Mr. Brownback's residence this a.m. I got that helpless feeling you realize that you are going to hit it and there is nothing you can do about it. The bike stopped a lot quicker than I did. With the exception of a guy getting aluminum cans out of the trash cans, had the whole place to myself from about 7 to 8. That's pretty rare.

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    The parking's pretty good honestly there's 3 ball parks there on 25th. I saw 2-3 cars down there and no one bothered me. People were walking the trails ect.

    Honestly the place looks like it could get somewhat technical. I'm new to the whole MTB trail riding and the hill from the trail head that I had to climb was quite hard for me to climb. I imagine going down it you outta be quite careful. It's got a decent grade that goes down to a wooden bridge with plenty of roots and rocks.

    I just rode the outer edge of the place so I really can't rate the trail yet. However it was very well taken care of from what I saw!

    Sucks about you smacking a tree! I hope you and your bike are alright!
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    Check out this website for more info on Dornwood.

    Friends of Dornwood - Discover Dornwood!

    They got alot of plans for this park it appears!

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    Excellent, thanks.

    The wife and I had to run out to Harbor Freight this afternoon so we went ahead and drove over there. Looks pretty neat. Going to try to get over there tomorrow a.m. after getting the grandson to school.

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    Sweet! Post up what you think about it. If you gps your ride throw up your workout. I'd like to see the map. Take pics too if you can.

    Grandson eh? Shoot I don't even have kids yet. But at 28 I guess I probably should.

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    The F.O.D. volunteers are working wonders with that place. I went over to ride one Sat morning in June/July, and they were out there working on it. The guy showed me the masterplan and whatnot. It will be nicer than it already is when it's done, but for walking and learning as a "nature trail" it will likely NEVER be what it once was. It didn't have nearly the amount of trail it does now, and it wasn't intended for bikes (we rode our bikes there anyway). There was a cool swampy pond that has long-since dried up and silted in. There were concrete "podium" things that had little blue placards on them that identified different trees and grasses and other features around the park. When I first started going out there as a little kid, there was a hermit woman that lived way back in a cabin out there. 2 years ago, I found the place she used as a dump. That or it had been a hobo camp at some point. There was a HUGE wild-strawberry patch that we knew how to get to (it wasn't on the trail, and was barely in the park, and we'd eat 'til we were sick. There was also a big tudor-style house there SW of the dairy barn. It was a nice-looking house and I remember people living there in the eighties. Squatters then crackheads ruined that place, so they had to tear it down. THE thing that saved that trail and that park is the MTB community taking care of it and maintaining it and improving it until TPRD/SNCOPRD/FOD could see the value of having it. The credit really goes to them. I'm sure that's been the story for lots of trails all around this country. For a town this size, and as far away from any sort of "hipness" as it is, SNCO and Topeka have made a commitment to cyclists and cycling that is really pretty impressive. Having a city councilwoman like Karen Hiller, who rides often, has been good too. Terry Bertels had a great deal to do w/ the Landon/Shunga trails system. I don't mean to leave anyone out, but I know what those 2 have done.

    There are plenty of "nice and normal" people that use that park, and it's about like anywhere in this town: there are good and bad folks everywhere. I NEVER keep to myself out there. I talk to everyone I see: 1) I used to live in that part of town so it doesn't scare me - at all and 2) I'd like to think that if I needed one of those people's help, that my kindness would work in my favor.

    About riding to Clinton, my friend says to take the "little gravel" left, then to the right. He said the trail picks back up on the front edge of somebody's property and to get back on it there and that it will go on from there. He says it's rough for approx a mile, but that it will get nice again after that. He's been over the Wakarusa and into the preserve past Greene road. I've walked and fished that many, many times, but I've never ridden it, nor looked to until recently. He offered to go out there with me some time, so I plan to take him up on it if I/we don't go out to get it figured out ourselves.

    I'll keep you posted. If I get this Ti bike sorted, and if the weather stays decent, I will be out there this week (like Mon or Tues).

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    Cool deal! Thanks for the history lesson on the area. I didn't grow up in Topeka so I don't know about all these areas. I grew up SW of Wichita. I'll probably ride Shunga in the morning starting by the Felker Park area around 9am ish if the weather is decent.

    I wasn't really scared to be in the area myself. Everyone waved at me or smiled.

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    Dornwood is great! A real Jeckyll and Hyde type of trail. Nice flowing kind trail or possible death involvement sections. I didn't see the trail map until after I was done. Now I sort of understand the flow and direction. Will certainly try that next time and there will be many next times. I had my first end over out there. Very unpleasant. I had expected that one would hurt the head doing that but the bike nearly broke my leg whipping around. I am trying to put my run in here but don't know if it will work. Will try to figure it out. I don't know where it came up with the 128 mph max speed and I don't know where it came up with a cadence as I don't have the bike stuff for it on that bike. I have to figure that the heart rate over 200 was for my end over. Trail Ride by mjanway at Garmin Connect - Details
    Next time, it might be better as I follow the trail correctly and don't have to stop as much. Very friendly people out there and I did have to listen to one life story from an old fellow out there.

    Expost, take your friend up on that if you can. Otherwise the only thing I can figure is to ride down 89th to Clinton Lake. And a 1X9 would have worked great at Dornwood today. So hard to pick the right gear there, finally relied on the leg power a lot more than I usually do. Guess that will improve once I learn the trail.

    Yep, two grandsons. I'll be 58 here in a couple of weeks. Probably the best shape I've ever been in since Coast Guard boot camp a few years back. Heart Attack 4 years ago made me straighten up my act.

    Not too many bites on my M1 carbine yet. Have one possible. Maybe the timing is off. Might have to wait on my new Specialized. Will have to stop whining and jump back on the Schwinn.

    See everyone around

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    Ouch! Endover's suck. Last time i did that was in college. I flew of the handlebars from hitting the brakes too hard to avoid a pedestrian that walked out in front of me. I flew over the top of them and landed on my feet! I know that is pretty un believable but it did happen. NO JOKE!

    I'm glad you had a good time. I will be riding that trail more myself. Did you rack your bike there or ride it to there?

    By the time I made it to the park on my ride Sat. I was pooped.

    Kudos to you on getting in shape after your heart attack! I'm still working on losing weight here. Lost 50+ within a year and a half here. 270 to 212 at 5'8". I gained a little back this fall so I gotta get my act straightened out again too.

    Hope to see you guys on the trail soon enough.

    Also if you guys get a chance, review this trail on the Review tab on our site. It could use some updated reviews.
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    I rack my Specialized StumpJumper for trail riding. It doesn't ride too well on pavement. I guess I could max the air in the tires for the pavement and let it out for the trails but I figure if I rack it, can save all my energy for the trails. Will have to plan something for out there sometime and I can rack them up and drive out there. Got a 2 bike rack plus could fit one in the back with the topper on. Going to try and make Monday mornings for Dornwood.

    Will go and review it right now.

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    Sweet! What time do you normally ride ?

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    Well,

    I walk the older grandson to school, scrape the wife's van windows if needed when I get back so she can haul the younger grandson to pre-prison, excuse me, I meant pre-school. Then since I am riding the bike for my aerobics that day, I do the remainder of my exercises. Usually can be heading out the door by 9 or a little after.

    I went and bought a Specialized CrossTrails from Capps today. I'm ready for anything anywhere now.
    I didn't sell the carbine yet but figured another way to do it. Now the wife has the why do you need 4 bikes look in her eye sort of like why do you need X amount of firearms look. I've yet been able to answer one of her questions but there is probably going to be some payback involved somehow.

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    Lol the joy of purchasing things our wife's don't approve of Sounds cool on the bike. PM me a pic or something. Sounds pretty nice! I'm going to try to ride Thurs and Fri for sure!

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    Ry, you could ride the Landon to Burlingame, turn right/South, go 2 or 3 blocks to 25th and ride straight to the Dornwood. It would be very hilly, but I've ridden that way a time or two. There's also another way in where you don't have to use Wittenberg. I'll PM you a map like before. The first couple of times I went in after riding there, I went in that way. It is just not as "tame" as I think you might need at this point. Well, that and it might be overgrown/closed-off by now.

    If I'm in a hurry I just throw the bike in the back of the truck or in my wagon, depending on what I have to do after I ride.

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    Oh don't get me wrong that ride route you sent me wasn't bad. I'm just not in riding shape yet. I made it fine. Sure I was a huffing and puffing when i got home. I just have never rode more than 14 miles until Sat. Also a Dually rig isn't the best road bike. You lose alot of your effort in the suspension I would imagine.

    I haven't rode since Sat. since it's been so chilly and it hasn't been warming up until after I go to work at 12pm. I typically ride at 8:30 - 9am before work. I've been watching my eating alot better this week so it works out.

    That South wind we had Sat was a killer. It was really hard to get going.

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    Will get a picture of it pretty soon. Got it upside down in the basement putting some stuff on it. Payback has been on getting busy on the bathroom remodeling. Don't know if I will be able to squeeze out a ride until Sunday. Will be out on the trails tonight (running), then on the streets Friday a.m. (running).

    Thought I was going to have the whole day Wednesday to myself so I was thinking about the day over at Perry but looks like that got derailed by a trip to the Moon Marble Factory and lunch at Papa Bob's. Oh well, something will loosen up and I will be out there.

    Hunter green for the window and door frames, yes ma'am.

    I like having the wind at my back and downhill on the way home.

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    You'll get out there with it plenty soon i'm sure. I can't wait till it warms up some tomorrow. It's been pretty chilly lately. I'm itching to get a good 14 or more miles in tomorrow.

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    70 degrees coming up next week.

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    Sawwwweeeet! I just got a 15 mile ride in. I took Shunga to Landon and rode it to 37th and back. Good little ride. I kept in the Big Dog chainring most of the ride.

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    That's a fun ride! I use that lots of times when it's cold-ish out, or when I'm in recovery mode and I just GOTTA ride. IMO, that path is the best from the Blvd to 27th (or so), then around 39th to 53rd, and finally from 53rd to 77th. It gets less "civilized" out there in parts, and it's a bit more fun. I'm sure they've finished lots of it since I was out there last though. During the winter we used to spend an inordinate amount of time walking those train tracks (many which have been pulled up to make the Landon). We'd walk from 25th to 37th pretty often (even hit White Lakes), but on our last little hike we were amazed to see how many dogs had been run over by trains. We were dumb enough to walk on train tracks, but we were smart enough to realize something else was going on. We never walked on those tracks again. NOW I ride where they used to be. Kinda cool. We weren't juvenile delinquents without parental supervision, mind you, but looking at it now, it suuuuure seems like we were.

    I'm in bikebuild mode for the next couple of days, and I'm volunteering at the Mission tomorrow, so no ride, but I'll be somewhere on Saturday and likely on Sunday. I'll text my primary riding buddy (my former Jr. High Social Studies teacher) and see where he's going. Looks like I might try to hit the Landon on Monday if the weather holds. PM me if you're up for it, and we can try to organize something. If you're up for D'wood, I could lead a little expo out there instead if that's what you guys want to do.

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    Ok let me know if you go out Sat morn. I'd be up for some Dwood sat morning!

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    I'm certainly up for anything Monday. Just let me know your druthers so I will know which bike to bring.
    Other than that, hope to hit the Governors Residence Sunday a.m. as soon as the eastbound pulls out.

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    If i had a bike rack i'd go out more in the mornings but I work Sun-Wed 12noon - 10:30p. I'm kinda limited on my morning time.

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    My standing offer; anytime you want to go and we got time to go and get back for you to get to work, I will gladly pick you and your bike up.

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    Good to see so many other riders in the area. I moved to Manhattan in March and rode at Perry quite a bit this summer. I will most likely be offering up my services for trail maintenance starting this spring. I think I will have to check out Dornwood and the mansion trails sometime. Looks like they're about the same driving distance for me. I've been riding for two years now so I'm no expert but I can hold my own. Would love to meet up with someone sometime and hit the trails. I will definitely be going either tomorrow or Sunday, maybe once more after that this year and then hitting it again in the spring once it warms up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slakjak View Post
    My standing offer; anytime you want to go and we got time to go and get back for you to get to work, I will gladly pick you and your bike up.
    Sweet! I'll pm you my email \ contact info.

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    Welcome IDkid. I certainly want to get onto Perry. I'm at the Governors Residence Sunday mornings but the times are always uncertain as they depend on when the Amtrak train clears out of Topeka. So if you see a Toyota Tacoma (silver or gray?) with the pictures of two grandsons on the front license plate parked on 6th by the entrance to the State Park by it, I'm out there somewheres.

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    I drove upto the entrance \ parking area of the Gov's mansion today. Never realized it was right off 6th and Fairlawn. Took a pic of the map with my phone for my own review. Looks fun!

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    If you guys ride today, I suggest that you put on your knobbiest tires, and lower the pressure. The rocks and roots at most places will be guh-reazy. Parts of D'wood will be frustrating, and the rocky technical parts at the Gov's will be dangerous if you aren't confident/experienced. Be careful out there. That said, this is a perfect day for the dirt at LRT, and you won't have to change tires or worry. If the sun comes out for awhile disregard the suggestions above.

    If it rains tonight, PM me, as I will likely ride the Landon to the South.

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    I get to help my wife with her jewelry show today. Also the parents are coming up this afternoon. Not sure i'll get any riding besides going around the block that I just did with the GT.

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    ryno - here's that map in PDF. I print it out and mark it if I need too. Doesn't cover the west side.

    expost - you talking about south Sunday or Monday? If Monday, let me know.

    http://www.kansastrailscouncil.org/w...ark-trails.pdf

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    Cool thanks!

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    I got "last second"ed into riding the Gov's today. I went late enough that stuff wasn't really slick anymore, so only pay attention to the caution if it rains and/or if you are riding early-ish tomorrow.

    The Ti bike rode quite nicely even if the headtube angle is a bit slack for me. I'll get used to it.

    Maybe I'm talking Sunday AND Monday. I wouldn't be able to ride on Monday until around 4, but maybe a bit earlier.

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    Good I'm glad you got to ride it on the trails. I'm sure it rides like a dream. Post up some pics of that thing soon or text me some.

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    Trains willing, will be out at the Gov early. Don't think I would be worth a darn after being up all night and then heading south. If you find something after 89th, let me know. I may try it Monday early. Need to put some miles on the crossover. But if I can't get out to the Gov tomorrow, then will do the Gov or Dornwood Monday because I need my dirt fix.

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    I'd like to get upto the gov sometime.

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    Howdy Topeka folks! Slakjak, hope your cool with us using your thread here to just kinda chat. I saw that you originally started this one with a question and didn't mean to just start hijacking it.

    Isn't this weather something else? Winter was my favorite season when I was a youngster, but don't really care if it doesn't get any colder than this the rest of the season. We really need some moisture, though. Most winters, once it is extremely cold and snowy, I hang up the bike and grab the backpack. I like to go hiking at a pretty fast pace. Although,it feels like your just not getting anywhere, when you don't have any knobby tires under ya' !

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    No problems FireCop, certainly enjoy your input. I've forgotten what snow looks like. A couple more winters like the past few, we are going to be knee deep in armadillos and fire ants.

    Foggy ride at the Gov today, but a beautiful sunrise. East end in great shape. I was so very proud of my technical riding today that I was going to give myself an A+ when I got so busy patting myself on the back for getting over a particular log that I clipped a tree with one of my handgrips and had to put a foot down to save myself. Dropped it to an A-.

    The west end was a slippery mess. No traction on the hills whatsoever and the leaves and roots were treacherous like expost was telling us about yesterday. I felt bad for being on the trail there but was past the point of no return. Hopefully didn't tear it up too much. Now I got one messy bike to clean when I wake up and I know there is some knobby tires under those slicks somewhere.

    ryno, you are certainly welcome any Sunday morning if you want to get up. If the train is on time I am heading out that way about 6:30 - 6:45am. Otherwise, will try to set up a time later in the week and go out there.

    Don't know what I am going to do tomorrow yet. Hopefully a dream will guide my way.

    Good night

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    sunday ride

    I bet the west end was hard that early after all the fog. It was foggy, right? All I know is my car looked like it just came out of the carwash earlier. You didn't hurt the trail on the West side of the road. It was damp and greasy, not muddy. Or was it a bit muddy? I can't imagine you damaged it. I have a map of my ride yesterday. I just need to figure out how to get it to you guys. After some of the dampness burns off, the trail ought to be nice. I hadn't been out there for 2 or 3 weeks I think, so there was lots of new 'kitty litter' stone they've graded out. It helped to not have that big unstable gravel in places. It also looks like Widowmaker would be an easy ride anymore since they've cleaned it up so much. There's a section above it that's not ridden by many people, and I have to clean that to the top. I've only ridden it once, and had to bail once, but I was able to get back on and get up it.

    I'm coordinating with my riding buddy to see where he wants to go. I'm really wanting to take a nice, easy ride out South. If I do, and I find the passage, I will let you know. Of course, if I can figure how to share my maps, I'll send it.

    edit: We are going Landon. I don't know how far, I can convince him to ride, but my goal is 89th+.

    As for hijacking the thread, we are talking about area riding. I think it would be more gauche if we started a different thread for each place we're yammering about above. There'd be a D'wood thread, a Landon thread, a Shung thread, a Gov's thread. I still see the point, and I apologize. Maybe we can just put together a wiki that we could all use instead of cluttering this place up? I will look into it when I get back.
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    Either way works for me Expo. You guys are making me jealous. I haven't rode since Thrusday. I've just been too darn busy with family and things.

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    I would have to say muddy about at the widowmaker level. Should have known though because I was looking at the Menninger tower rising above the fog thinking that it looked like a Scooby Doo cartoon haunted house. Oh well, bike is cleaned off and oiled, clothes are in the washer.

    Widowmaker is safe from me for the time being. I keep hitting the wrong places on it and stopping or going off the trail. I'm going to conquer everything else there and then work on that. I come up from the southeast side of it and cross the middle part of widowmaker and go up the hill on the northwest side. Very technical, tight and rocky. It's no picnic, but it's not widowmaker either. That new pea gravel will be nice once it's packed down. Right now, it is like slogging through muskeg in places. I picked so much of it up in the mud on my tires coming down that when I hit the street, sounded like I had tire chains on.

    Noticed next weekend looks wet and/or snowy so if it's not foggy tonight or in the morning, will probably hit the dirt tomorrow because don't look like will be able to next weekend. If it's foggy, will probably head out south. Maybe I will see something from the bike I didn't see from the truck. Looks like it will be a nice day to get out. Probably last one for shorts until next year.

    See everyone around.

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    Ya this weekend's forcast doesn't look to promising.

    You guys really got me wanting to ride Dornwood and Gov's more and more every day. I'll get there.
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    I didn't go out South. I was convinced to go to Brownbuck's place. It was better than yesterday, and all the stuff that you're talking about SlakJak, was dry by the time I got there. It was drier than it was yesterday. I'm guessing the sun had a bit to do w/ that. I rode almost the exact same route I rode yesterday. I was telling my buddy that the trail that crosses the middle of Widowmaker going East is one of my favorite parts of that trail I love that little section. That kitty litter didn't even stick to my tires, so it was pretty dry when I was there.

    Found a wiki, but haven't had a chance to check it out. I will be doing so in the next day or so. Ryno should know what we're looking for, he's the techspert. Maybe we can put heads together about the format when the bad weather comes? Give us something to do. As long as it's not windy, and as long as it only rains for a couple of hours at a time, non-techy stuff will still be very rideable. Technical stuff will still be very tryable.

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    Expo i'm game Thurs and Fri and Sat next week for any riding. Send me a link Expo on the wiki. You know how to get ahold of me I can look into it.

    I honestly haven't done any web design stuff for about 10 years. I can try my best to help though.

    If you all are serious we can make our own site here for free.

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    Looks wet this morning, will be heading south.

    They changed the forecast this morning. Weekend looks nice and warm now, no precipitation.

    Kansas, got to love it.

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    WooHoo! Got up early this morning to get out there. Man it feels great out! Probably going to ride Landon myself. Not sure which bike i'm going to take yet. Either way i'll have a primer grey helmet with stickers on it.

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    Went out and put 21miles on the GT today. Damn that thing rides nice, it's a shame i'm too short. I threw the chain 3 times within the first 2 miles. Then I got the hang of making that derailleur stay in the small chain-ring After that it was gravy. That bike is pretty fast for a 1x7! I met up with slackjak by accident. We rode for a few miles until I had to turn around and head back home to get ready for work.

    I rode with him past 53rd and a few more streets. He was going to see how far Landon could take him and report back. He had his Garmin watch and a personal GPS on him so we'll see what he finds out.

    slakjak:

    I was super nice to meet up with you! I had a blast riding with ya! We'll have to meet up again!

    PS: Your new bike is pretty nice lookin' there Mr! I love that color scheme!

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    Topeka rider here too. I rode both Dornwood and Landon this beautiful weekend.

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