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    Drove out to Dornwood. Not a bad area. Not the best part of town but i'm sure it's fine over in that sub-district if you mind your own business. I have a co worker that lives in those townhomes.

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    Rode from 29th & Gage to Dornwood and back today. Trying to map it out as my phone died 15 min into the ride even though it said full charge. Did about a 20-25mi ride from what I can tell by satellite.

    Thanks expostdelirium for the map draw out! That big hill on Dornwood kicked my ass! As did the 25th street run from Dornwood to Landon Trail. Soo many hills!

    If any of you haven't rode Dornwood give it a whirl! I only rode the outside edge but the place is huge and full of trails and off shooting trails.

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    Will try and get out there tomorrow. Is the parking OK out there? Had a head on with a tree at Mr. Brownback's residence this a.m. I got that helpless feeling you realize that you are going to hit it and there is nothing you can do about it. The bike stopped a lot quicker than I did. With the exception of a guy getting aluminum cans out of the trash cans, had the whole place to myself from about 7 to 8. That's pretty rare.

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    The parking's pretty good honestly there's 3 ball parks there on 25th. I saw 2-3 cars down there and no one bothered me. People were walking the trails ect.

    Honestly the place looks like it could get somewhat technical. I'm new to the whole MTB trail riding and the hill from the trail head that I had to climb was quite hard for me to climb. I imagine going down it you outta be quite careful. It's got a decent grade that goes down to a wooden bridge with plenty of roots and rocks.

    I just rode the outer edge of the place so I really can't rate the trail yet. However it was very well taken care of from what I saw!

    Sucks about you smacking a tree! I hope you and your bike are alright!
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    Check out this website for more info on Dornwood.

    Friends of Dornwood - Discover Dornwood!

    They got alot of plans for this park it appears!

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    Excellent, thanks.

    The wife and I had to run out to Harbor Freight this afternoon so we went ahead and drove over there. Looks pretty neat. Going to try to get over there tomorrow a.m. after getting the grandson to school.

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    Sweet! Post up what you think about it. If you gps your ride throw up your workout. I'd like to see the map. Take pics too if you can.

    Grandson eh? Shoot I don't even have kids yet. But at 28 I guess I probably should.

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    The F.O.D. volunteers are working wonders with that place. I went over to ride one Sat morning in June/July, and they were out there working on it. The guy showed me the masterplan and whatnot. It will be nicer than it already is when it's done, but for walking and learning as a "nature trail" it will likely NEVER be what it once was. It didn't have nearly the amount of trail it does now, and it wasn't intended for bikes (we rode our bikes there anyway). There was a cool swampy pond that has long-since dried up and silted in. There were concrete "podium" things that had little blue placards on them that identified different trees and grasses and other features around the park. When I first started going out there as a little kid, there was a hermit woman that lived way back in a cabin out there. 2 years ago, I found the place she used as a dump. That or it had been a hobo camp at some point. There was a HUGE wild-strawberry patch that we knew how to get to (it wasn't on the trail, and was barely in the park, and we'd eat 'til we were sick. There was also a big tudor-style house there SW of the dairy barn. It was a nice-looking house and I remember people living there in the eighties. Squatters then crackheads ruined that place, so they had to tear it down. THE thing that saved that trail and that park is the MTB community taking care of it and maintaining it and improving it until TPRD/SNCOPRD/FOD could see the value of having it. The credit really goes to them. I'm sure that's been the story for lots of trails all around this country. For a town this size, and as far away from any sort of "hipness" as it is, SNCO and Topeka have made a commitment to cyclists and cycling that is really pretty impressive. Having a city councilwoman like Karen Hiller, who rides often, has been good too. Terry Bertels had a great deal to do w/ the Landon/Shunga trails system. I don't mean to leave anyone out, but I know what those 2 have done.

    There are plenty of "nice and normal" people that use that park, and it's about like anywhere in this town: there are good and bad folks everywhere. I NEVER keep to myself out there. I talk to everyone I see: 1) I used to live in that part of town so it doesn't scare me - at all and 2) I'd like to think that if I needed one of those people's help, that my kindness would work in my favor.

    About riding to Clinton, my friend says to take the "little gravel" left, then to the right. He said the trail picks back up on the front edge of somebody's property and to get back on it there and that it will go on from there. He says it's rough for approx a mile, but that it will get nice again after that. He's been over the Wakarusa and into the preserve past Greene road. I've walked and fished that many, many times, but I've never ridden it, nor looked to until recently. He offered to go out there with me some time, so I plan to take him up on it if I/we don't go out to get it figured out ourselves.

    I'll keep you posted. If I get this Ti bike sorted, and if the weather stays decent, I will be out there this week (like Mon or Tues).

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    Cool deal! Thanks for the history lesson on the area. I didn't grow up in Topeka so I don't know about all these areas. I grew up SW of Wichita. I'll probably ride Shunga in the morning starting by the Felker Park area around 9am ish if the weather is decent.

    I wasn't really scared to be in the area myself. Everyone waved at me or smiled.

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    Dornwood is great! A real Jeckyll and Hyde type of trail. Nice flowing kind trail or possible death involvement sections. I didn't see the trail map until after I was done. Now I sort of understand the flow and direction. Will certainly try that next time and there will be many next times. I had my first end over out there. Very unpleasant. I had expected that one would hurt the head doing that but the bike nearly broke my leg whipping around. I am trying to put my run in here but don't know if it will work. Will try to figure it out. I don't know where it came up with the 128 mph max speed and I don't know where it came up with a cadence as I don't have the bike stuff for it on that bike. I have to figure that the heart rate over 200 was for my end over. Trail Ride by mjanway at Garmin Connect - Details
    Next time, it might be better as I follow the trail correctly and don't have to stop as much. Very friendly people out there and I did have to listen to one life story from an old fellow out there.

    Expost, take your friend up on that if you can. Otherwise the only thing I can figure is to ride down 89th to Clinton Lake. And a 1X9 would have worked great at Dornwood today. So hard to pick the right gear there, finally relied on the leg power a lot more than I usually do. Guess that will improve once I learn the trail.

    Yep, two grandsons. I'll be 58 here in a couple of weeks. Probably the best shape I've ever been in since Coast Guard boot camp a few years back. Heart Attack 4 years ago made me straighten up my act.

    Not too many bites on my M1 carbine yet. Have one possible. Maybe the timing is off. Might have to wait on my new Specialized. Will have to stop whining and jump back on the Schwinn.

    See everyone around

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    Ouch! Endover's suck. Last time i did that was in college. I flew of the handlebars from hitting the brakes too hard to avoid a pedestrian that walked out in front of me. I flew over the top of them and landed on my feet! I know that is pretty un believable but it did happen. NO JOKE!

    I'm glad you had a good time. I will be riding that trail more myself. Did you rack your bike there or ride it to there?

    By the time I made it to the park on my ride Sat. I was pooped.

    Kudos to you on getting in shape after your heart attack! I'm still working on losing weight here. Lost 50+ within a year and a half here. 270 to 212 at 5'8". I gained a little back this fall so I gotta get my act straightened out again too.

    Hope to see you guys on the trail soon enough.

    Also if you guys get a chance, review this trail on the Review tab on our site. It could use some updated reviews.
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    I rack my Specialized StumpJumper for trail riding. It doesn't ride too well on pavement. I guess I could max the air in the tires for the pavement and let it out for the trails but I figure if I rack it, can save all my energy for the trails. Will have to plan something for out there sometime and I can rack them up and drive out there. Got a 2 bike rack plus could fit one in the back with the topper on. Going to try and make Monday mornings for Dornwood.

    Will go and review it right now.

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    Sweet! What time do you normally ride ?

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    Well,

    I walk the older grandson to school, scrape the wife's van windows if needed when I get back so she can haul the younger grandson to pre-prison, excuse me, I meant pre-school. Then since I am riding the bike for my aerobics that day, I do the remainder of my exercises. Usually can be heading out the door by 9 or a little after.

    I went and bought a Specialized CrossTrails from Capps today. I'm ready for anything anywhere now.
    I didn't sell the carbine yet but figured another way to do it. Now the wife has the why do you need 4 bikes look in her eye sort of like why do you need X amount of firearms look. I've yet been able to answer one of her questions but there is probably going to be some payback involved somehow.

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    Lol the joy of purchasing things our wife's don't approve of Sounds cool on the bike. PM me a pic or something. Sounds pretty nice! I'm going to try to ride Thurs and Fri for sure!

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    Ry, you could ride the Landon to Burlingame, turn right/South, go 2 or 3 blocks to 25th and ride straight to the Dornwood. It would be very hilly, but I've ridden that way a time or two. There's also another way in where you don't have to use Wittenberg. I'll PM you a map like before. The first couple of times I went in after riding there, I went in that way. It is just not as "tame" as I think you might need at this point. Well, that and it might be overgrown/closed-off by now.

    If I'm in a hurry I just throw the bike in the back of the truck or in my wagon, depending on what I have to do after I ride.

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    Oh don't get me wrong that ride route you sent me wasn't bad. I'm just not in riding shape yet. I made it fine. Sure I was a huffing and puffing when i got home. I just have never rode more than 14 miles until Sat. Also a Dually rig isn't the best road bike. You lose alot of your effort in the suspension I would imagine.

    I haven't rode since Sat. since it's been so chilly and it hasn't been warming up until after I go to work at 12pm. I typically ride at 8:30 - 9am before work. I've been watching my eating alot better this week so it works out.

    That South wind we had Sat was a killer. It was really hard to get going.

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    Will get a picture of it pretty soon. Got it upside down in the basement putting some stuff on it. Payback has been on getting busy on the bathroom remodeling. Don't know if I will be able to squeeze out a ride until Sunday. Will be out on the trails tonight (running), then on the streets Friday a.m. (running).

    Thought I was going to have the whole day Wednesday to myself so I was thinking about the day over at Perry but looks like that got derailed by a trip to the Moon Marble Factory and lunch at Papa Bob's. Oh well, something will loosen up and I will be out there.

    Hunter green for the window and door frames, yes ma'am.

    I like having the wind at my back and downhill on the way home.

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    You'll get out there with it plenty soon i'm sure. I can't wait till it warms up some tomorrow. It's been pretty chilly lately. I'm itching to get a good 14 or more miles in tomorrow.

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    70 degrees coming up next week.

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    Sawwwweeeet! I just got a 15 mile ride in. I took Shunga to Landon and rode it to 37th and back. Good little ride. I kept in the Big Dog chainring most of the ride.

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    That's a fun ride! I use that lots of times when it's cold-ish out, or when I'm in recovery mode and I just GOTTA ride. IMO, that path is the best from the Blvd to 27th (or so), then around 39th to 53rd, and finally from 53rd to 77th. It gets less "civilized" out there in parts, and it's a bit more fun. I'm sure they've finished lots of it since I was out there last though. During the winter we used to spend an inordinate amount of time walking those train tracks (many which have been pulled up to make the Landon). We'd walk from 25th to 37th pretty often (even hit White Lakes), but on our last little hike we were amazed to see how many dogs had been run over by trains. We were dumb enough to walk on train tracks, but we were smart enough to realize something else was going on. We never walked on those tracks again. NOW I ride where they used to be. Kinda cool. We weren't juvenile delinquents without parental supervision, mind you, but looking at it now, it suuuuure seems like we were.

    I'm in bikebuild mode for the next couple of days, and I'm volunteering at the Mission tomorrow, so no ride, but I'll be somewhere on Saturday and likely on Sunday. I'll text my primary riding buddy (my former Jr. High Social Studies teacher) and see where he's going. Looks like I might try to hit the Landon on Monday if the weather holds. PM me if you're up for it, and we can try to organize something. If you're up for D'wood, I could lead a little expo out there instead if that's what you guys want to do.

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    Ok let me know if you go out Sat morn. I'd be up for some Dwood sat morning!

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    I'm certainly up for anything Monday. Just let me know your druthers so I will know which bike to bring.
    Other than that, hope to hit the Governors Residence Sunday a.m. as soon as the eastbound pulls out.

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    If i had a bike rack i'd go out more in the mornings but I work Sun-Wed 12noon - 10:30p. I'm kinda limited on my morning time.

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    My standing offer; anytime you want to go and we got time to go and get back for you to get to work, I will gladly pick you and your bike up.

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    Good to see so many other riders in the area. I moved to Manhattan in March and rode at Perry quite a bit this summer. I will most likely be offering up my services for trail maintenance starting this spring. I think I will have to check out Dornwood and the mansion trails sometime. Looks like they're about the same driving distance for me. I've been riding for two years now so I'm no expert but I can hold my own. Would love to meet up with someone sometime and hit the trails. I will definitely be going either tomorrow or Sunday, maybe once more after that this year and then hitting it again in the spring once it warms up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slakjak View Post
    My standing offer; anytime you want to go and we got time to go and get back for you to get to work, I will gladly pick you and your bike up.
    Sweet! I'll pm you my email \ contact info.

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    Welcome IDkid. I certainly want to get onto Perry. I'm at the Governors Residence Sunday mornings but the times are always uncertain as they depend on when the Amtrak train clears out of Topeka. So if you see a Toyota Tacoma (silver or gray?) with the pictures of two grandsons on the front license plate parked on 6th by the entrance to the State Park by it, I'm out there somewheres.

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    I drove upto the entrance \ parking area of the Gov's mansion today. Never realized it was right off 6th and Fairlawn. Took a pic of the map with my phone for my own review. Looks fun!

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    If you guys ride today, I suggest that you put on your knobbiest tires, and lower the pressure. The rocks and roots at most places will be guh-reazy. Parts of D'wood will be frustrating, and the rocky technical parts at the Gov's will be dangerous if you aren't confident/experienced. Be careful out there. That said, this is a perfect day for the dirt at LRT, and you won't have to change tires or worry. If the sun comes out for awhile disregard the suggestions above.

    If it rains tonight, PM me, as I will likely ride the Landon to the South.

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    I get to help my wife with her jewelry show today. Also the parents are coming up this afternoon. Not sure i'll get any riding besides going around the block that I just did with the GT.

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    ryno - here's that map in PDF. I print it out and mark it if I need too. Doesn't cover the west side.

    expost - you talking about south Sunday or Monday? If Monday, let me know.

    http://www.kansastrailscouncil.org/w...ark-trails.pdf

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    Cool thanks!

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    I got "last second"ed into riding the Gov's today. I went late enough that stuff wasn't really slick anymore, so only pay attention to the caution if it rains and/or if you are riding early-ish tomorrow.

    The Ti bike rode quite nicely even if the headtube angle is a bit slack for me. I'll get used to it.

    Maybe I'm talking Sunday AND Monday. I wouldn't be able to ride on Monday until around 4, but maybe a bit earlier.

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    Good I'm glad you got to ride it on the trails. I'm sure it rides like a dream. Post up some pics of that thing soon or text me some.

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    Trains willing, will be out at the Gov early. Don't think I would be worth a darn after being up all night and then heading south. If you find something after 89th, let me know. I may try it Monday early. Need to put some miles on the crossover. But if I can't get out to the Gov tomorrow, then will do the Gov or Dornwood Monday because I need my dirt fix.

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    I'd like to get upto the gov sometime.

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    Howdy Topeka folks! Slakjak, hope your cool with us using your thread here to just kinda chat. I saw that you originally started this one with a question and didn't mean to just start hijacking it.

    Isn't this weather something else? Winter was my favorite season when I was a youngster, but don't really care if it doesn't get any colder than this the rest of the season. We really need some moisture, though. Most winters, once it is extremely cold and snowy, I hang up the bike and grab the backpack. I like to go hiking at a pretty fast pace. Although,it feels like your just not getting anywhere, when you don't have any knobby tires under ya' !

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    No problems FireCop, certainly enjoy your input. I've forgotten what snow looks like. A couple more winters like the past few, we are going to be knee deep in armadillos and fire ants.

    Foggy ride at the Gov today, but a beautiful sunrise. East end in great shape. I was so very proud of my technical riding today that I was going to give myself an A+ when I got so busy patting myself on the back for getting over a particular log that I clipped a tree with one of my handgrips and had to put a foot down to save myself. Dropped it to an A-.

    The west end was a slippery mess. No traction on the hills whatsoever and the leaves and roots were treacherous like expost was telling us about yesterday. I felt bad for being on the trail there but was past the point of no return. Hopefully didn't tear it up too much. Now I got one messy bike to clean when I wake up and I know there is some knobby tires under those slicks somewhere.

    ryno, you are certainly welcome any Sunday morning if you want to get up. If the train is on time I am heading out that way about 6:30 - 6:45am. Otherwise, will try to set up a time later in the week and go out there.

    Don't know what I am going to do tomorrow yet. Hopefully a dream will guide my way.

    Good night

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    sunday ride

    I bet the west end was hard that early after all the fog. It was foggy, right? All I know is my car looked like it just came out of the carwash earlier. You didn't hurt the trail on the West side of the road. It was damp and greasy, not muddy. Or was it a bit muddy? I can't imagine you damaged it. I have a map of my ride yesterday. I just need to figure out how to get it to you guys. After some of the dampness burns off, the trail ought to be nice. I hadn't been out there for 2 or 3 weeks I think, so there was lots of new 'kitty litter' stone they've graded out. It helped to not have that big unstable gravel in places. It also looks like Widowmaker would be an easy ride anymore since they've cleaned it up so much. There's a section above it that's not ridden by many people, and I have to clean that to the top. I've only ridden it once, and had to bail once, but I was able to get back on and get up it.

    I'm coordinating with my riding buddy to see where he wants to go. I'm really wanting to take a nice, easy ride out South. If I do, and I find the passage, I will let you know. Of course, if I can figure how to share my maps, I'll send it.

    edit: We are going Landon. I don't know how far, I can convince him to ride, but my goal is 89th+.

    As for hijacking the thread, we are talking about area riding. I think it would be more gauche if we started a different thread for each place we're yammering about above. There'd be a D'wood thread, a Landon thread, a Shung thread, a Gov's thread. I still see the point, and I apologize. Maybe we can just put together a wiki that we could all use instead of cluttering this place up? I will look into it when I get back.
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    Either way works for me Expo. You guys are making me jealous. I haven't rode since Thrusday. I've just been too darn busy with family and things.

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    I would have to say muddy about at the widowmaker level. Should have known though because I was looking at the Menninger tower rising above the fog thinking that it looked like a Scooby Doo cartoon haunted house. Oh well, bike is cleaned off and oiled, clothes are in the washer.

    Widowmaker is safe from me for the time being. I keep hitting the wrong places on it and stopping or going off the trail. I'm going to conquer everything else there and then work on that. I come up from the southeast side of it and cross the middle part of widowmaker and go up the hill on the northwest side. Very technical, tight and rocky. It's no picnic, but it's not widowmaker either. That new pea gravel will be nice once it's packed down. Right now, it is like slogging through muskeg in places. I picked so much of it up in the mud on my tires coming down that when I hit the street, sounded like I had tire chains on.

    Noticed next weekend looks wet and/or snowy so if it's not foggy tonight or in the morning, will probably hit the dirt tomorrow because don't look like will be able to next weekend. If it's foggy, will probably head out south. Maybe I will see something from the bike I didn't see from the truck. Looks like it will be a nice day to get out. Probably last one for shorts until next year.

    See everyone around.

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    Ya this weekend's forcast doesn't look to promising.

    You guys really got me wanting to ride Dornwood and Gov's more and more every day. I'll get there.
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    I didn't go out South. I was convinced to go to Brownbuck's place. It was better than yesterday, and all the stuff that you're talking about SlakJak, was dry by the time I got there. It was drier than it was yesterday. I'm guessing the sun had a bit to do w/ that. I rode almost the exact same route I rode yesterday. I was telling my buddy that the trail that crosses the middle of Widowmaker going East is one of my favorite parts of that trail I love that little section. That kitty litter didn't even stick to my tires, so it was pretty dry when I was there.

    Found a wiki, but haven't had a chance to check it out. I will be doing so in the next day or so. Ryno should know what we're looking for, he's the techspert. Maybe we can put heads together about the format when the bad weather comes? Give us something to do. As long as it's not windy, and as long as it only rains for a couple of hours at a time, non-techy stuff will still be very rideable. Technical stuff will still be very tryable.

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    Expo i'm game Thurs and Fri and Sat next week for any riding. Send me a link Expo on the wiki. You know how to get ahold of me I can look into it.

    I honestly haven't done any web design stuff for about 10 years. I can try my best to help though.

    If you all are serious we can make our own site here for free.

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    Looks wet this morning, will be heading south.

    They changed the forecast this morning. Weekend looks nice and warm now, no precipitation.

    Kansas, got to love it.

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    WooHoo! Got up early this morning to get out there. Man it feels great out! Probably going to ride Landon myself. Not sure which bike i'm going to take yet. Either way i'll have a primer grey helmet with stickers on it.

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    Went out and put 21miles on the GT today. Damn that thing rides nice, it's a shame i'm too short. I threw the chain 3 times within the first 2 miles. Then I got the hang of making that derailleur stay in the small chain-ring After that it was gravy. That bike is pretty fast for a 1x7! I met up with slackjak by accident. We rode for a few miles until I had to turn around and head back home to get ready for work.

    I rode with him past 53rd and a few more streets. He was going to see how far Landon could take him and report back. He had his Garmin watch and a personal GPS on him so we'll see what he finds out.

    slakjak:

    I was super nice to meet up with you! I had a blast riding with ya! We'll have to meet up again!

    PS: Your new bike is pretty nice lookin' there Mr! I love that color scheme!

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    Topeka rider here too. I rode both Dornwood and Landon this beautiful weekend.

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