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    New Garmin Edge 500

    Announced today on the Garmin Blog.


    Weighing a mere 2 ounces, Garmin's newly announced Edge 500 cycling GPS features a high-sensitivity GPS receiver, requires no calibration, can be switched quickly and easily between bicycles and connects wirelessly with ANT+™ compatible third-party power meters. “Using feedback from the best focus group imaginable – the Pro Tour cyclists of Team Garmin-Slipstream, we’ve developed a lightweight cycling computer that’s powerful enough for the pros yet simple enough for beginners,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin’s vice president of worldwide sales.

    “Since becoming our title sponsor, Garmin has guaranteed that we have the best technology available,” said Team Garmin’s Christian Vande Velde, fresh off his top-8 finish in France in July. “At training camp we made requests: we wanted a smaller device with a big screen, easy-to-use buttons and sturdier mount. Garmin listened. The Edge 500 reflects our requests and then some, adding vertical speed, accurate calories and temperature readings.”
    Looks like an ANT+ capable 305 with black and white and no map upload ability. Roadies with power meters rejoice!
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    Thanks for the heads up. Looks like most MTBers can skip this one. 2 ounces is pretty light, though!
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    Not sure if this is roadies only, I honestly never use the mapping function while riding. This has the new calorie calculation, outside temp and the same accessory inputs as the 705. Also the new more secure bike mount. Seems like a great unit if you want 705 functionality but do not need color maps and want to pay less than half the price.

    Also, has claimed 18 hour battery life, which would be good if one can get that much (tracking a 12 hour race or an epic event would be cool).
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    Good points.
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    While I may not use the map function of the 705 on familiar rides, I do use it on unfamiliar ones. I would pass on this GPS...because I need/want the map screen and/or the trackback function when I'm at a new place, especially one with no paper maps, signs, and a confusing network of trails. This thing is just a very expensive basic cycling computer that happens to get its data from GPS instead of a wheel sensor. While maybe not just roadies would use it, I expect most buyers of this receiver would be roadies.

    Quote Originally Posted by gstahl
    Not sure if this is roadies only, I honestly never use the mapping function while riding. This has the new calorie calculation, outside temp and the same accessory inputs as the 705. Also the new more secure bike mount. Seems like a great unit if you want 705 functionality but do not need color maps and want to pay less than half the price.

    Also, has claimed 18 hour battery life, which would be good if one can get that much (tracking a 12 hour race or an epic event would be cool).

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    So when does the 705 replacement come out? Answer - likely tomorrow since my 705 just got delivered by fedex today lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk
    While I may not use the map function of the 705 on familiar rides, I do use it on unfamiliar ones. I would pass on this GPS...because I need/want the map screen and/or the trackback function when I'm at a new place, especially one with no paper maps, signs, and a confusing network of trails. This thing is just a very expensive basic cycling computer that happens to get its data from GPS instead of a wheel sensor. While maybe not just roadies would use it, I expect most buyers of this receiver would be roadies.

    While I have used the mapping a couple of times, the vast majority of my rides are now in familiar territory where I never even look at the maps. I am using my 705 more as a bike computer with the benefit of logging stats and maps on the computer to see which routes I took. I would have given this a serious look when I bought the 705 and on paper would recommend it to anyone who isn't exploring new trails.

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    This looks to be a downgrade from the 305.

    Looking at the specs... no route or waypoint storage, no virtual partner, workouts, pace alerts, interval training.

    So it's got better battery life and can talk with wireless power meters but it strips a bunch of features in the process. I also think the unit looks kinda ugly, I like the look of my 305 better, but that's subjective

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    Quote Originally Posted by gstahl
    Not sure if this is roadies only, I honestly never use the mapping function while riding. This has the new calorie calculation, outside temp and the same accessory inputs as the 705. Also the new more secure bike mount. Seems like a great unit if you want 705 functionality but do not need color maps and want to pay less than half the price.

    Also, has claimed 18 hour battery life, which would be good if one can get that much (tracking a 12 hour race or an epic event would be cool).
    I think it has a place for everyone. My roadies rejoice comment was with friends who wanted a GPS with ANT+ for their power taps, but did not want the price of the 705 or need that mapping ability.

    It would work just like my 305 that went for almost four years, and it will work great. I am just spoiled now with the 705 since it will do everything I want AND give me good navigation and route finding when I need it.

    The features and price make it a winner, I have no doubt.
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    Does it have a barometric altimeter? If not, the cumulative altitude is going to be way off; better off with a 305.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDee
    Does it have a barometric altimeter? If not, the cumulative altitude is going to be way off; better off with a 305.
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    I'll pass on this. It seems a bit silly to me to release a new GPS computer that doesn't do what GPS is best at: recording routes, and following routes.

    The newish Forerunner 310XT seems like a much better bike computer. It does routes, workout functions, has ANT+ power compatibility, and longer battery life that the new Edge 500. AND you can wear it on your wrist for other activities if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelMan
    I'll pass on this. It seems a bit silly to me to release a new GPS computer that doesn't do what GPS is best at: recording routes, and following routes.
    Read the Garmin page carefully, it records a track and you can compare different rides over the same course. You can upload rides to GTC and Connect for analysis, you just cannot set waypoints or upload them, and you cannot upload a track to the unit as a route to follow. It is still a GPS that records a track though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slocaus
    Read the Garmin page carefully, it records a track and you can compare different rides over the same course. You can upload rides to GTC and Connect for analysis, you just cannot set waypoints or upload them, and you cannot upload a track to the unit as a route to follow. It is still a GPS that records a track though.
    Fair point. The Edge 500 will record. For me the inability to follow a course (route, track whatever one calls it) is a deal breaker. As far as I can tell it doesn't do that? I don't need a fancy map display like the Edge 705etc, but do want the ability to upload a course to the unit, and follow it using a simple direction arrow and basic navigation info such as distance remaining. I use this a lot on the mtb and on the road.

    My forerunner 405 does most of what I want -- but the interface is awful and battery life too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelMan
    Fair point. The Edge 500 will record. For me the inability to follow a course (route, track whatever one calls it) is a deal breaker. As far as I can tell it doesn't do that? I don't need a fancy map display like the Edge 705etc, but do want the ability to upload a course to the unit, and follow it using a simple direction arrow and basic navigation info such as distance remaining. I use this a lot on the mtb and on the road.

    My forerunner 405 does most of what I want -- but the interface is awful and battery life too short.
    TwoWheelMan, can you help answer this question I posted in another thread? I'm trying to find out if the Forerunner 305 will let me do what you are describing. I just want something to tell me when I am off track or took a wrong turn. Only need it on about 10% of the rides - the rest is on trails I know well.

    perhaps the 310 is a better choice now?

    Thanks very much in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejfiii
    TwoWheelMan, can you help answer this question I posted in another thread? I'm trying to find out if the Forerunner 305 will let me do what you are describing. I just want something to tell me when I am off track or took a wrong turn. Only need it on about 10% of the rides - the rest is on trails I know well.

    perhaps the 310 is a better choice now?

    Thanks very much in advance.

    EJ
    I don't have the 305, but I checked the PDF of the manual and it is very similar to my 405 in navigation features. Actually the 305 is a bit better, in that it actually has a rudimentary map view of your uploaded course, which shows your current position in relation to the course (it doesn't have a basemap though, so there is no detail about topography or streets).

    So, the answer is yes, the 305 should do what you want. You can upload a previous course, or create a new course on your computer** and upload it to the 305. Then, select 'Do Course' on the 305, and choose the desired course. Using a direction arrow, the 305 will tell you which direction you should be going to stay on a course. If you get off the course, it will tell you which direction to go to get back on the course. Or you can use the rudimentary map view to see if you are north, south, east etc of your course.

    The Forerunner 310 looks nice but you may not need it's features: display and recording of power data from a PowerTap etc, longer battery life, and sufficient waterproofness for swimming.

    The Forerunner 405 would do what you want too, but the touch bezel interface is BS. And the battery life with the GPS on is <8hrs, which is too short for a lot of what I do on the bike.

    Have fun with it.

    ** If you end up getting a Forerunner, I recommend checking out SportTracks software for downloading and storing your rides and courses. Much better than Garmin's software in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelMan
    Fair point. The Edge 500 will record. For me the inability to follow a course (route, track whatever one calls it) is a deal breaker. As far as I can tell it doesn't do that? I don't need a fancy map display like the Edge 705etc, but do want the ability to upload a course to the unit, and follow it using a simple direction arrow and basic navigation info such as distance remaining. I use this a lot on the mtb and on the road.

    My forerunner 405 does most of what I want -- but the interface is awful and battery life too short.
    Agreed. If I was buying now and to choose between the 305 and 500, the 305 would win hands down. Now that I have a 705 and my first GPS was a 60CSx, for me the 705 is the best choice, but I am a map geek.

    Quote Originally Posted by ejfiii
    TwoWheelMan, can you help answer this question I posted in another thread? I'm trying to find out if the Forerunner 305 will let me do what you are describing. I just want something to tell me when I am off track or took a wrong turn. Only need it on about 10% of the rides - the rest is on trails I know well.

    perhaps the 310 is a better choice now?

    Thanks very much in advance.

    EJ
    Don't trust my answer eh?

    I did some further research for you. The Edge 305 and Forerunner 305 share the same basic chipset and functions (305 = 305). The screen size and antennas are different, and the form factor obviously but all functions are the same. So definitive YES that you can upload courses and follow them. You have to check the screen though to see if you make the right turn or go off route.
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    Thank you both so much - I really appreciate it.

    Slocaus - I was waiting and hoping someone else might follow up your post.

    Again - thank you both for the help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slocaus
    Agreed. If I was buying now and to choose between the 305 and 500, the 305 would win hands down. Now that I have a 705 and my first GPS was a 60CSx, for me the 705 is the best choice, but I am a map geek.
    I wouldn't mind a 705 one bit (or whatever Garmin comes up with next) I use my 60CSx on my motorbike, car, hiking, and once in a blue moon for riding. The Forerunner is a nice complement for my purposes, and used for most aerobic activities... small, wristable if needed, and minimal but just enough navigation.

    Back on topic.. I do think that this new 500 would have been perfect for a lot of road riders if it had had basic nav...

    when it comes down to it though... all these gadgets are pretty amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelMan
    I don't have the 305, but I checked the PDF of the manual and it is very similar to my 405 in navigation features. Actually the 305 is a bit better, in that it actually has a rudimentary map view of your uploaded course, which shows your current position in relation to the course (it doesn't have a basemap though, so there is no detail about topography or streets).

    So, the answer is yes, the 305 should do what you want. You can upload a previous course, or create a new course on your computer** and upload it to the 305. Then, select 'Do Course' on the 305, and choose the desired course. Using a direction arrow, the 305 will tell you which direction you should be going to stay on a course. If you get off the course, it will tell you which direction to go to get back on the course. Or you can use the rudimentary map view to see if you are north, south, east etc of your course.

    The Forerunner 310 looks nice but you may not need it's features: display and recording of power data from a PowerTap etc, longer battery life, and sufficient waterproofness for swimming.

    The Forerunner 405 would do what you want too, but the touch bezel interface is BS. And the battery life with the GPS on is <8hrs, which is too short for a lot of what I do on the bike.

    Have fun with it.

    ** If you end up getting a Forerunner, I recommend checking out SportTracks software for downloading and storing your rides and courses. Much better than Garmin's software in my experience.
    Hey, I just wanted to follow up on this, being that I've owned both the Forerunner 405 and Forerunner 305. For navigation, the Forerunner 305 is superior to the 405. The 305 at least allows you to follow a "breadcrumb" path on the screen. The 405 allows you to follow a course, but the lack of a breadcrumb screen sometimes makes navigation difficult. It will tell you to turn right or left at certain points, or point you in the direction you need to go, but if you go off course, well good luck getting back on course without at least the breadcrumb.

    I'm hoping the Edge 500 will at least have a breadcrumb screen. I really think that's all you need. It doesn't take long to map out a course using bikeroutetoaster.com or mapmyride.com and transfer it to the unit. Once you have that, you can follow the breadcrumb and safely make it back home. Which is a big deal for me because I've moved around a bit and frequently bike in unfamiliar areas. Having the Edge 705 would obviously be even better, but that obviously comes at a cost.

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    Seems to me that Garmin is trying to expand their market. The more a unit does, the more it costs and the more diverse are the groups clammering for their specific feature to be added. They want to sell both a 60csx AND an Edge 500 to the data freaks. Not a single Edge 705. Notice their newest GPS models: A dog tracker for hunters and a golf-specific model with built-in courses. They want to have as little functional overlap as the market will bear. Doubt we'll see a trend towards feature consolidation until / unless they start feeling heat from a competitor.

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    That dog tracker Astro receiver has been out for years. All of the touch screen handhelds are newer. They have quite a bit of feature integration, actually. I think even all of the Edge receivers are even newer than the Astro. The golf one is pretty new, though. It is clever, though. I can see how it would be useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eisidor
    Hey, I just wanted to follow up on this, being that I've owned both the Forerunner 405 and Forerunner 305. For navigation, the Forerunner 305 is superior to the 405. The 305 at least allows you to follow a "breadcrumb" path on the screen. The 405 allows you to follow a course, but the lack of a breadcrumb screen sometimes makes navigation difficult. It will tell you to turn right or left at certain points, or point you in the direction you need to go, but if you go off course, well good luck getting back on course without at least the breadcrumb.
    Thank you very much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk
    That dog tracker Astro receiver has been out for years. All of the touch screen handhelds are newer. They have quite a bit of feature integration, actually. I think even all of the Edge receivers are even newer than the Astro. The golf one is pretty new, though. It is clever, though. I can see how it would be useful.
    Yeah, good point, I did let the hyperbole get the better of me... but I still think that Garmin is tending to specialize rather than generalize their products.

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    I dunno...look at the Colorado, Oregon, and Dakota receivers. Lots of options to also use a HRM or Cadence sensor on those. For the situation where 'if you can only have one'. Sure they've come out with some niche market receivers, but the new handhelds are very generalized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk
    I dunno...look at the Colorado, Oregon, and Dakota receivers. Lots of options to also use a HRM or Cadence sensor on those. For the situation where 'if you can only have one'. Sure they've come out with some niche market receivers, but the new handhelds are very generalized.
    SO, "If you can only have one" and you want as much "Bang for the buck" as possible, Which one would you get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGESAM
    SO, "If you can only have one" and you want as much "Bang for the buck" as possible, Which one would you get?
    Tough to answer that without knowing what "bang for the buck" means to you.

    For me the 705 offers HRM, cadence, tracks to add to my computer collection and share with friends, fitness tracking, mapping and navigational abilities that I could use in the truck as well, if I wanted/needed. I can use it on the road bike, and hiking. None of the other new GPSers offer anything better for my needs.
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    depends on your activities...

    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGESAM
    SO, "If you can only have one" and you want as much "Bang for the buck" as possible, Which one would you get?
    ...i feel that if BIKING is your Main outdoor activity, as it is mine, the Edge 705 is the Way to Go. It has a Small-ish footprint too, which helps with Biking devices.
    I Have had mine for 18 months and am very Satisfied.
    The Higher-End Rino 530hcx is great too if you Hike and want a Radio option, it is also Happens to be a great Color Screen GPS unit as well. I also use it for Biking when i do Club Rides as we use radios to stay in touch, we ride quite a bit at night.

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    Two votes for the 705. I don't think my "Bang for the buck" parameters would be any different from most. I usually feel it's best to have a few features I may not use, then to find out later after you get to know the device that yours won't do that.

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    Depends on your primary activities. For biking, I've found that I value small size a great deal, but then again biking is one of my major activities. For hiking, I like a larger GPS, so something different might be in order. For paddling, I like a GPS that floats for recovery just in case.

    Depending on what you want to do most will determine what GPS to get.

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    Then you hafta decide what features are most important and what is less important.

    Factor in price, too.

    For me, ability to add a basemap is essential, so that right away sends me to the Edge 605 or 705. I then decided I'd like HR, which narrowed it further to the 705. Then I decided I wanted speed/cad for riding the trainer so that put me at the 705 HR+Cad.

    If you don't want a basemap so much, but do want courses, then the Edge 205/305 would be the choice. If you don't need a basemap/courses but want tracking and the accessories, look into the 500.

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    From what little bit I know now (Or, think I know) I thinkin 705 for me. Just waitin to see if there's a 805 etc. around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGESAM
    From what little bit I know now (Or, think I know) I thinkin 705 for me. Just waitin to see if there's a 805 etc. around the corner.
    There's always something new around the corner. If you wait for the next thing, you'll always be waiting. What new potential features would you possibly want that much?

    Keep in mind that the "first adopter syndrome" is real. New products always have bugs that need to be worked out and new adopters get to suffer through the headaches. The Edge receivers have been out awhile and most of those issues have been addressed. Or, if you wait for the newer model, you can hope for a price drop. Sometimes that happens, but not always.

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    Good points NateHawk. IIRC, The 705 doesn't have outside temp. I'd like that feature. But it's by no means a deal breaker. The possibility of a price drop is nice though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGESAM
    Good points NateHawk. IIRC, The 705 doesn't have outside temp. I'd like that feature. But it's by no means a deal breaker. The possibility of a price drop is nice though.
    Good luck getting outside temp on any device. I have a watch that reports it, but the heat from my wrist throws it WAY off. I gotta take it off and set it in the shade for half an hour to get it to report somewhat correctly.

    You're better off just getting a separate thermometer to put on your pack strap, jersey zipper, or whatever. It'll cost you a few bucks. Skiers use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk
    There's always something new around the corner. If you wait for the next thing, you'll always be waiting. What new potential features would you possibly want that much?.
    A PLB would be nice.

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    I will be doing a review for MTBR.com shortly on the Edge 500, for me it does exactly what I want, lots of information (except I don't need the power meter stuff), I never used any of the options of the Edge 305 that the Edge 500 is missing, and I never really use the map on my Delorme Earthmate PN-40, so for me Simple is as Simple Does

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    the golf gps cannot be a do-all unit, i.e., have altitude capability etc. (yes, even if turned off). otherwise it will be non-conforming per usga rules and handicapping, and would not sell and this is a very competitive market with too many products already

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    Will it do the same functions with heart rate as the Forerunner 305? What is important for me is programable high and low alarms. The Garmin website is not clear on it and they don't have the manual available to download yet.
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    Long live the 305! Long live Motionbased.com

    Everything else is fluff.

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    What about all the options for the 705?

    Are the data card and street maps good to have?

    What's in the Topo bundle?

    Anybody know what's in the Team Garmin bundle?

    To keep the thread somewhat on topic. Does anyone know how the "Courses" function (competing against a previous workouts) works? I know you could compare them after you download but does this actually compare a route as you're actually riding it?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goneskiian
    What about all the options for the 705?
    What about them?
    Are the data card and street maps good to have?
    I have a car GPS and my handheld is already registered with my city nav maps. So I don't need them for the Edge 705. Besides, I only got that one for biking, and I don't really ride road. At any rate, the street maps really only give you POI data (restaurants, hotels, gas, etc, which can be pretty outdated in the contact info department if you want a hotel room) and autorouting, which is optimized for driving a car, not riding a bike. So the autorouting feature would tend to send you to major highways instead of quiet backroads. If you plan on using the GPS in the car, the street maps might be useful. Otherwise, the topos will show streets, too, and not be so car-centric.

    You will need the data card if you want to load maps or load lots of trail data. The Edge's onboard memory isn't too significant, and is mostly for the limited amount of data it can save. Put data onto the memory card to keep this space open in case you need it.

    What's in the Topo bundle?

    Anybody know what's in the Team Garmin bundle?
    https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?...885#versionTab
    http://www.rei.com/search?cat=8000&cat=4500105&jxBrand=Garmin&hist=ca t,4500105:Bike+Computers^jxBrand,Garmin
    Team bundle is the same as Deluxe bundle, except the receiver is orange.
    IMO, those bundles really aren't worth much, considering that 24k topos can be had for free from gpsfiledepot.com. I think the biggest bundle that's worthwhile is the HR+Cad bundle, but of course only if you need/want that. If you don't want those, then just get the 605 (it's easier to find). If you want one (HR or Cad), you still need the 705.

    To keep the thread somewhat on topic. Does anyone know how the "Courses" function (competing against a previous workouts) works? I know you could compare them after you download but does this actually compare a route as you're actually riding it?

    Thanks!
    AFAIK, courses allow you to virtually compete with another rider, with a previous ride you've done, or whatever and it actually compares as you ride.

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    Thanks Nate.

    Perhaps I should have prefaced my post with the fact that I'm a total newb to GPS (don't have one in the car and have never really "used" one though I look forward to learning and love maps). I am not a newb to bike riding though. ;-)

    I am mainly shopping for an ANT+ compatible computer as I ride and race on the road mostly and will likely be getting either a Quarq Cinco or a metrigear vector power meter setup for my road bike. However, I am planning to do some mtb racing and hopefully some backcountry touring hence my interest in the 705 and 500.

    Anyway, thanks for you input about the 705 option packages. I'll definitely get the HR and cadence I'm just a bit fuzzy on what's available after market.

    So, let me get this straight. If I can get topographic maps for the 705 online at gpsfiledepot.com should I just get the basic 705 (with cadence/speed if I'm so inclined) and then buying a microSD card to load maps onto separately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goneskiian
    So, let me get this straight. If I can get topographic maps for the 705 online at gpsfiledepot.com should I just get the basic 705 (with cadence/speed if I'm so inclined) and then buying a microSD card to load maps onto separately?

    Thanks,
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    That's what I've done...except I haven't bought the memory card yet.

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    anyone have an official release date on this?? I need to snap one up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocondorfx
    anyone have an official release date on this?? I need to snap one up.
    http://www.runnersroost.com/store/storeproduct910.aspx

    Took me less than a minute to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastajet
    I will be doing a review for MTBR.com shortly on the Edge 500, for me it does exactly what I want, lots of information (except I don't need the power meter stuff), I never used any of the options of the Edge 305 that the Edge 500 is missing, and I never really use the map on my Delorme Earthmate PN-40, so for me Simple is as Simple Does
    I completely agree. I have had my 305 for almost 3 years now. I never use any of the "extras." I only use the immediate feedback for the speed, cadence, HR, time, elevation gain, etc. during a ride. I do upload the information to GTC and Connect to see the map and stats post ride though.

    For the last couple months I haven't been using my 305, because it has a tendency to turn off mid ride. This seems to be common in the group of guys I ride with, road or MTB. I'd like to replace it with something, but don't want to spend a fortune on a 705, unless I got a power meter. Now though, the 500 seems like a better alternative for users like me.

    Can someone clarify... if I were to upload information from the 500 to GTC or Connect, would it plot the GPS track points from the ride and map it for me?

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    Yes it will, it is a GPS.

    Look at "Analyze Your Ride" on the Garmin Edge 500 info page here, you will need to scroll down.
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