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    garmin 705 bike mount failure?

    I am looking at buying a 705, and some searching on google it seems lots of people have issues with the bike mount breaking and then loosing their 705's etc. etc. Anyone here having the same issues? Any way to fix it?

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    I have not broken any mounts for my 305.

    It has shaken loose from the mounts and fell to the ground on 2 occasions in the probably 400 MTB rides I have taken it on. One time a friend picked it up, and the other time I heard it hit the ground. Luckily it was not damaged.

    So they certainly can fallout and its an expensive toy to lose. Something similar to a safety chain on a trailer is not a bad idea. So if it does come out it just dangles from a string for a second, rather then get bounced down the trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _daemon_
    I am looking at buying a 705, and some searching on google it seems lots of people have issues with the bike mount breaking and then loosing their 705's etc. etc. Anyone here having the same issues? Any way to fix it?
    Don't know where you heard this. The 205/305/605/705 all use the same mount. They are cheap and we sell them as a single or 4-pack.

    Frankly, I rode three years without replacing one. This is not a big issue that should affect your purchase decision.

    Get a 705 or 305. You'll wonder what all this "hubbub" was all about.

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    yeah it's no huge issue. i even broke the little knub (protuding lever) but the unit still snaps and locks in place--and my fingernail is easily used to get at the inner piece of the lever that's still left to get it to "unlock".

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    Cool, thanks guys, will be picking up my 705 then next week

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    I have five mounts that are all three years or more old and have been on probably eight different bikes, and with stem changes, probably been remounted 25 to 30 times.. Nothing has failed, broken, fallen off, nothing. There was a thread here a year or so back that folks were catching the release tab and breaking mounts, but for me, that has never been an issue. shrug....

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    No breaks or issues with my Edge mounts, have them on 3 bikes and they see 3 days a week of hard mountain biking for over 3 years now.

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    Since the mount is made of plastic I doubt it was ever intended for rough mountain biking. Probably works better for the road than trails. But it would be nice if someone came up with a stronger mounting system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resist
    Since mount is made of plastic I doubt it was ever intended for rough mountain biking.
    Really? Garmin does not seem to agree (link). Lots of pictures of the Edge on mountain bikes there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resist
    Since mount is made of plastic I doubt it was ever intended for rough mountain biking. Probably works better for the road than trails.
    The mount is not a problem on either a mountain or road bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by Resist
    But it would be nice if someone came up with a stronger mounting system.
    There you go... A market opportunity, go for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resist
    Since mount is made of plastic I doubt it was ever intended for rough mountain biking. Probably works better for the road than trails. But it would be nice if someone came up with a stronger mounting system.
    The mounting system is fine, 3 years of heavy abuse on multiple mountain bikes with no issues, I ride through rock gardens and rocky terrain all the time, and as long as you tighten the mount properly it should be fine. I can't say the same for my Edge 305, one of them died on me (under warranty), and every couple of months the unit just seems to give up the ghost and then will start working again.

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    Only smooth trails for me.....

    This is called "What? Trail" for obvious reasons.
    I have more troubles here than my old 305 or new 705.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slocaus
    Only smooth trails for me.....

    This is called "What? Trail" for obvious reasons.
    I have more troubles here than my old 305 or new 705.

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    I've got a trail that looks almost exactly similar. There's no problem with the mounting system even on rides like this one. Nice!
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    Here is some short videos of one of local spots


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    I never had any issues with mine through rocky sections and jumps

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    I have broken two of them. I have no idea how, I just looked at them one day and saw each was broken. Both the broken ones were from my MTB. I tend to agree they are pretty marginal for tough and frequent use.

    Love the 705 though. Would be very pissed to lose it due to cheap mount. I agree a better mount would sure be a welcome thing.
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    from a friend that works for garmin, they have beefed up the mounts, give them a call and they may hook you up with a new one no charge
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter916
    from a friend that works for garmin, they have beefed up the mounts, give them a call and they may hook you up with a new one no charge
    Thanks, I just bought three new (old) mounts on line so I am sending Garmin a note asking how I can get the new ones instead. We'll see if they respond.

    Thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter916
    from a friend that works for garmin, they have beefed up the mounts, give them a call and they may hook you up with a new one no charge

    I was just in contact with Garmin. The Customer Service people checked and to their knowledge, there is no change to the Edge mounts.

    I guess just be easy on them......
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    Quote Originally Posted by fliernh
    The Customer Service people checked and to their knowledge, there is no change to the Edge mounts.
    I called Garmin as well and was told the same thing.

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    I've broken 3 mounts with my edge 305. None yet with the new, replaced mounts using my 705.

    In all 3 cases, the tab breaks and then the device falls off.

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    The only time I managed to break the mount on my 705 was when I had a massive wipeout while downhilling at a ski resort.
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    The only time I broke one was once when I flipped the bike upside down to fix a chain. The little release tab broke. Of course this was a day before a big race, and I didnt have an extra one. So I just zip tied it on and it was fine. I use a pony tail holder to help keep in place, just in case. I just cut it and tie it around the stem and the edge. Not sure if will help or not, but at least it makes me feel a little bit better. It would really suck to lose it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter916
    they have beefed up the mounts, give them a call and they may hook you up with a new one no charge
    Garmin hasn't released any new mounts.

    BTW, we sell mounts in a 4-pack with free shipping - just in case you need them... click here
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtb_Frk
    The only time I broke one was once when I flipped the bike upside down to fix a chain. The little release tab broke. Of course this was a day before a big race, and I didnt have an extra one. So I just zip tied it on and it was fine. I use a pony tail holder to help keep in place, just in case. I just cut it and tie it around the stem and the edge. Not sure if will help or not, but at least it makes me feel a little bit better. It would really suck to lose it.
    Can you post a pic of the safety strap? I have been thinking about something like this.
    Can you hook that up to your car?.......

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    They do break, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The tab breaks and then the unit can slide out easily. I get maybe 100 or so rides before it breaks, and I'm real gentle with it. Complaints are all over the internet.

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    Ok, 3 years and 500 rides later, and no issues, and I abuse it. Maybe some newer ones are worse? Maybe I have been nice to the tab? Very strange, sorry to hear the issues with the Garmin mount. I can now appreciate the monster proof RAM mount for my Earthmate PN-40, I have cratered on it. and it just twisted a bit on the bars and got a minor scratch.

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    There's no "problem", per se.

    Of course they break, so do chains and frames. I had over 400 rides on three bikes before I replaced my original Garmin mount. It broke.

    I know a guy who has replaced his GF frame three times now in three years. Is it a "problem"? Naw, he rides hard.

    BTW, I Googled "Garmin Edge Mount Break", "Garmin Edge Mount Failure", "Garmin Edge Mount Issues", etc., etc.. Is it "all over the internet" as someone implied? I could only find this thread, frankly, though I'm sure it has been discussed on MB, etc. but I couldn't find it off-hand. We've sold over 8,000 Edges and this issue just isn't one that comes up, frankly.

    Don't let this this stand in the way of buying or using an incredible riding tool.
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    just run a large zip tie over the face and under the stem, solved.

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    I think of this as an opportunity to make a great product better. In the spirit of continuous improvement, this is a place that could use some attention. Great product, could be made even better at very low cost/effort.

    Certainly if I lost or broke the edge as a result of this, I would sour considerably on Garmin.
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    Last week I broke the retention clip that holds the 705 in the mount. It gets flexed every time the GPS is taken in and out of the mount. It's plastic and it fatigues over time. So if you own a Garmin 705 be fore warned.

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    There is always a first time

    I have used the Garmin Edge 305 for over a year without any problems with it coming off until last week. I went for a short mountain bike ride and lost my Garmin. I wasn't going hard so I wasn't watching speed, HR ect. I remember seeing it at 24 minutes in but didn't even notice it was missing until about 45 minutes. I retraced the trail but never could find it. Maybe I didn't have it snapped in good but it would be nice if there was a secondary system to prevent losing it.

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    Garmin, are you listening????
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    I have used the Garmin 705 for a few years now. The mounts break OFTEN and are expensive to replace. The little tab thing you have to depress is what always breaks on mine. Having said that, my unit has never fallen off. Except in my last race at Michaux I did a little (forcefull) endo and apparently my GPS unit split in two. Top half went in the stream (which I couldn't find), and the bottom half still remained in the mount. Garmin was willing to replace my unit with a refurbished one for 59.00....... Although it is taking a little longer because the replacement they sent me was a NUVI. So Now I am in the process of sending that back.
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    I've broken 4 in the last year on my mtb, but the one on my roadie is as good as new. I don't think it's a design fault as such, I just think it gets more abuse on the mtb. I think if the mount was strengthened it may cause problems i.e. I'd rather a cheap plastic mount snap than part of the mounting system on the unit itself.

    By the way it is always the same bit that breaks, the removeable bit you insert into the main mount which you slide the zip ties thru' , as the unit gets bashed the zip ties are stronger than the mount and deform it untill they break.

    However, in the UK at a best price of £7 each and no four packs to be found I think its very expensive for a couple of zip ties and a few small lumps of plastic and gives me an extra niggle every few months when I need a new one!

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    I hate those mounts. I just tape mine on with clear packing tape.
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    only time i've ever broken a mount was in a crash. But then again the saddle rail snapped too in teh crash.

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    It is interesting that their sponsored pro road team uses a big zip tie over the unit and around the stem.
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    and every couple of months the unit just seems to give up the ghost and then will start working again.
    Sorry guys, but they do break off on occasion. But it is easily cured by a rubberband. Or just go with the Forerunner Sans. decent cumulative elevation(but save 20-30 grams.) But ALL of em give up the ghost after allot of pounding ... to be expected with GPS. Just get it from a good no questions warranty like Performance or REI and don't worry about it, just get it replaced they stand behind you better than Garmin or any equipment manufacturer ever will.
    But, you are also giving back to a company that supports a $$$ cycling team.
    On another note:
    What is the real battery life of the Edge ?????? I have heard it is actually about 5-10% less than the Forerunner.
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    I ordered a 4-pack of mounts from Geoman and all four are the new style. See this thread for more details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony
    I ordered a 4-pack of mounts from Geoman and all four are the new style. See this thread for more details.
    We've been selling the new mounts for some time now.

    The four-pack is very popular.
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    Update on my exprience...

    I have had a 305 since they came out moving between 3 bikes and a jogging stroller. Broke the jogging stroller mount very early and that resulted in a cracked 305 which did not affect the operation so I lived with it. Today I have a second mount break on a fast jeep road descent, went back to look for the 305 without any luck. So the $9 mount finally after 3 years or so cost me the unit. (note, these are the original mounts and the failure was of the tab in both cases).

    Got lots of great use out of the 305 but a bit annoyed a cheap plastic mount cost me the whole unit. Think of a 705 but just thinking that something else will be coming out soon (maybe a simple bump to the new 405cx type calorie calculation or some such update).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rensho
    the tab breaks and then the device falls off.
    I've just broken my first Garmin Edge mount this way. I was moving the mount from one bike to another and I guess I pressed on that tab the wrong way and, ping! it went flying. I ended up wrapping a rubber band around it, wrapped it around the stem then back around the Edge 305 again. It'll hold it in place well enough.

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    New question here. Edge Batteries

    Quote Originally Posted by ghawk
    What is the real battery life of the Edge ?????? I have heard it is actually about 5-10% less than the Forerunner.
    ...this brings up a question i have, when the Battery in the Edge 705 can no longer be recharged or do not last very long, can they be REPLACED... is this a GARMIN only job?

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    This is on the 305, but should work the same.
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    battery changing

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    This is on the 305, but should work the same.
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    Thanks... reading those posts now....

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    I lost my 705 in a rock garden due to the new mount letting go of the unit. I just got back home and I am going to send Garmin an email about this, but I don't expect much. I am not happy about losing the GPS. I looked around but after 20 mins of digging around in the poison Ivy, I gave up.
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    No good whoa - that blows...

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperBad
    I lost my 705 in a rock garden due to the new mount letting go of the unit. I just got back home and I am going to send Garmin an email about this, but I don't expect much. I am not happy about losing the GPS. I looked around but after 20 mins of digging around in the poison Ivy, I gave up.
    whoa, sorry to hear Your story... i broke 3 Garmin RINO Handlebar mounts, my RINO flew off every time = luckily i was able to go back and find it each time, 1 was a NIGHT RIDE, and it was always on VERY ROUGH downhill sections, and not always easy or safe to stop when it happens... but GARMIN gave me NO SYMPATHY, would not even replace their broken crappy plastic Mounts, i did not do anything to it that it was not intended for, but as i found out the Hard way, their RINO handlebar mounts are NOT strong enough for Bouncing around with, i have to ZIP tie it onto the mount to use it... but their attitude BLOWS IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastajet
    The mounting system is fine, 3 years of heavy abuse on multiple mountain bikes with no issues, I ride through rock gardens and rocky terrain all the time, and as long as you tighten the mount properly it should be fine. I can't say the same for my Edge 305, one of them died on me (under warranty), and every couple of months the unit just seems to give up the ghost and then will start working again.
    I wonder if I got a bad batch, the two mounts that came with my Edge 305 have both cracked in two months of use.

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    Good job! Beefier Edge Mounts look good!

    Quote Originally Posted by GEOMAN
    We've been selling the new mounts for some time now.

    The four-pack is very popular.
    I just Received my Garmin parts order from Geoman, i got 2 new edge mounts and a few other odd Garmin bits, my old Edge Mounts are still working on 3 bikes but i can see how the tab CAN break, although my RINO Handlebar mounts will NOT work for Mountain biking unless you TIGHTLY Zip-Tie the upper and lower mounts together on the Bike to prevent the 2 halves from Bouncing around when connected to each other, the Fit of the the Rino Holder to the handlebar Rail Mount is NOT precise and it can NOT take any trail abuse at all!
    I also think that Garmin still does not know about the Newer beefier mounts because they Likely have the same Part numbers as the original mounts, so Customer Service does not SEE the changes... it is a Big Company and they DO make Great Stuff, but it has been my experience that they are not very sympathetic or very helpful, this Forum has given me MORE help when i was learning GPS than Garmin ever did.
    Also a Big Thanks to Geoman, i requested Actual Shipping charges and he rebated me $8.00 as the shopping cart punched up a big fee for a few plastic pieces, Geoman rocks!

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