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    Why no love and heaps of hate for Giant bikes?

    It seems to me that there is heaps of haters and bike snobs that look down on the great Giant brand.
    I live in Australia and Giant's are very popular here, but even on our bike forums many people all bar the Giant bike owners themselves are jumping on the bandwagon payin out on Giants n their owners, its like Giant shooting season, not to mention the bit of Giant snobbery that goes on on this site..
    Im the proud owner of a Reign and an STP, both bikes are awesome bikes for what i paid for them, actually regardless of what i paid for them they are fine bikes..
    When looking for an all mountain bike i gave myself a limit of $2,500 and the reign fit the bill and is a great bike and imo beats plenty of bikes above it in its class n price range, its a top steed, so is my trusty STP that lasted me years of dirt jumpin n razzin round, For $1000 many years ago its been a damn fine bike n stood up to some serious abuse, and both are two fine bang for buck bikes..

    Im thinking there are plenty of bike snobs around these days, that think that any bike thats not worth 5k is a s**t bike, i think a few of these guys are 'brand groupies''.

    Who cares if Giants are thick on the ground, its because they are great value for money bikes that are well built n great quality, it speaks volumes for the company that so many are around imo.

    Anybody have an opinion on this Giant hate? Or theories behind it?

    Im writing this to check out your opinions here in the Giant forum, which i understand will be a bit bias towards Giants cause we all have them, but i will be putting a similar thread up soon out on the open forum to see the general thoughts of the wider community if i could be bothered lol

    cheers n thanks for reading, looking forward to hearing your thoughts.......
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    Your right!
    Here in NZ, I have heard people dis Giant bikes for no good reason, bar brand snobbery or they are not 5k bikes etc.I guess if I am honest, I was in that tribe once but have since learned just to enjoy the ride of a great bike.
    The Anthem 29er is a bike I rode recently, that shot the ball out of the park, for the quality of the ride, compared to most other 29ers I have ridden, regardless of price point!
    Anyway you have raised a very valid point.
    I fear the better Giant build their bikes and continue to provide amazing value for money, the more they will sell, so things may not change in a hurry!
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    i just find it interesting some peoples mentalities, they will never effect the way i feel about Giants, i love em (bar a few dodgy paint jobs n graphic designs lol) they are such good value bikes ant the geometry and Maestro system on their full suss is imo the best suspension design on the market.

    I sort of see Giants as the Toyota Land cruisers of the bike world, tough, well made, thick on the ground for a reason, because they are bloody great bikes at a great value...

    stuff the bike snobs, i'll give em a ride off on my Reign any day n give em a good run for their money..
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    I recommend Giant a lot to racers, and in fact my husband and I were seriously considering the new Anthem Advanced 29ers. However we discovered that we could get a deal on the Jet 9 RDO using some team discounts on parts, buy the frames and build them up completely custom, for about the same or a little less than buying the Anthem X Advanced 29ers at full retail + tax.

    I've spent the past five seasons on a Maestro bike and love the geometry, handling and value. If we still had a Giant team deal there would be absolutely no questions asked. If we were on a tighter budget, there would also be no questions asked, we'd opt for the Giant.

    The RDO has a very similar feel suspension wise but pedalled just a bit "tighter" on the climbs, and with the option to do a full boutique custom parts spec, we discovered we could build them out lighter & tricker from the get go (we both vastly prefer twist shifters, so that's something we'd have had to immediately change/upgrade on the Anthems fwiw). Otherwise there's no observed difference in weight / handling after fiddling with suspension settings, and this is after extensive demos (all day rides for multiple days) on both.

    So yes, if you don't have $5K to drop on a boutique build, the Giants absolutely make sense. I think there is a brand of bike snobbery here that dismisses Giants as "common", it's the same thing I used to see in the US road racing scene in the late 90s/early 2000s where every Cat 3 crit racer was on a midrange TCR; it's because they were reliable, affordable, came with ideal OEM specs, and worked very well for the masses, but the same reasoning (affordability, ubiquitousness) seemed to create a lot of contempt for the brand.
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    Its like everything now a days in the image conscious society that has been developed via marketing and internet - I have far too often been part of it myself. That said I own an Anthem X29 - and it is far and away the BEST bike I've owned, and paid far less than my previous boutique bike - I've become a better rider for it and it's exceeded my expectations for all it does well. Now - do I start to drool a bit when I see the new $6k boutique carbon 650's and 29ers being announced? heck yes! Do I want one? oh yeah! Will I buy one?? Nope - unless I can find a pro-deal hookup it is highly unlikely. Just too much high value in Giant (and some others) and no doubt the Maestro is a dialed in rear sus - while I believe my next bike will be the TranceX29 - again - find that value and build elsewhere (the x1 with a few tasty upgrades). But it will come down to the ride! I have a budget - and fortunately companies like Giant can offer a whole lot to meet many different budgets. Besides - its not about the bike - its whats on top - lol! While a bit cheeky of a comment - I watched a guy in street shoes on a 10 yr old piece of crap bike outride a handful of snobs on their $6k rides recently - it was awesome -

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    Just don't worry about other people and be smug that you have more practical values. I am new to mtbing and got a giant trance because it had been reviewed consistently well, was affordable (comparatively) and was locally available.
    If it got me out mountain biking, big ups for giant I say.
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    Our lives in general, there are always going to be the kind of people that look down on the budget minded. And like what Genetic_Drift said, it just makes me question those persons morals and practical values. I currently own a full suspension Motobecan. And you will also notice the hate towards that brand as well. But I chose something that fit my budget, and for the type of riding I do, it fit me well. And I got one heck of a deal. Now I feel that my skills have outgrown the Moto. And am seriously thinking of either the Reign or Reign X as my next do it all bike. Personally I don't let those kind of people bother me, but just to love what you ride and to have fun with it.

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    Just bought myself a new old stock reign X2 from my lbs. I've been out of the loop of whats current in the mtb scene for a long while as my last bike purchase was an orange X2 full suspension back in 1997, still have it. Maybe Giant are too much the Ford of the MTB world for the bike tarts but I'm loving mine...1 down

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    I bought a XTC2 29er this spring and it's my first Giant and first 29er, I hopped on the bike day one in the trail and I felt like I had ridden this bike all my life. That speaks all to well for the geo, it just felt right. The bike was 1400 bucks and my buddy still can't catch me on his super exspensive carbon dream.

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    People hate them because they're the working mans bike plus the ugly color schemes that they use from time to time doesn't help.

    I'm on my 3rd Giant and only have good things to say about my current (Talon 1) and former rides (NRS and Reign X).

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    I'm just replying "your fancy bike" is most likely build by Giant.

    I simply love my AX29 and Maestro. For 500 bucks more I could have bought lower specs bike with one kg more. I mean less than 12kg, full XT, Avid 9 (ok I would prefer XT, but still excelent brakes breaks) and great handling ... all out of the box?

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    You are correct...

    Its true that Giant seems to get more bike snobbery attention than most. Ignorance I would assume... Those who dont know any better were probably just told that their expensive boutique bikes are much better, but not based on any facts. Giant offers one of the best values in the industry and that likely attracts some snobbish attention I would think...
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    Eh, my "budget" trance x4 now costs more than most people's boutique bike and probably their cars too.

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    I love my Giant. I go everywhere everyone else does with it. They are usually behind me too.

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    Funny how the world is. Around here Giant bikes are somewhat exclusive. Apart from mines I cant count with my hand fingers how many Giants I've seen in a decade out of a shop.

    Specialized has been and is the trend around here. You can't just imagine how many Specialized bikes are around. Scott was kind of a fad, Trek is slowly returning after a couple of years nowhere to be seen. Boutique bikes here are almost limited to Ibis and Santa Cruz. There are some others around, but they are even rarer.

    Giant bikes, people just don't buy them and I don't figure why. Nothing to do with price assistance as far as I know. Some areas do seem to sell some more but nothing compared. One shop I know had the Giant line up for these last two year and now they've replaced it for Trek.

    In a way this doesn't bother me. It means I've got an exclusive bike, not as seen as others! And I like it!

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    Same reason as everything else in life... Penis envy.
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    Giant is the largest MFG of bikes worldwide.
    It's always easy to target a "Giant".

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    Also in Oz.
    My mate (who was from colorado but living in Oz now) jokingly called my 2012 Anthem X0 29er "the Toyota Corolla of mountainbikes"... But at the same time he heaped praise on it.

    Out on the trails I would actually say i've only had positive interest in the bike.

    This is my first Giant, so not brand-proud etc.
    Still amazed at the performance that's crammed into this bike for the money I payed.

    Anyhow, who cares what other people think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by purdyboy View Post
    Also in Oz.
    "the Toyota Corolla of mountainbikes"...
    Toyota Corolla?! Toyota 86 or Lexus LFA maybe. What does he rides?!

    And by the way on bikes, engines are actually out of the chassis...
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    Quote Originally Posted by purdyboy View Post
    "the Toyota Corolla of mountainbikes"...
    High praise indeed then .

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    I have had more Giant FS bikes than I care to remember, I have been on Niners for about 3 years, Current bike is a Jet9 RDO.

    I rate Giant very high, & If I wasn't on a Niner it would be Giant i would be going back to.

    The Anthem X29 I did a bit of miles on was a much nicer bike than the Tallboy carbon that I owned IMO.

    For the price point Giant is well up on many makes.
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    Hey Tone's, good thread. I ride a Giant XTC 29er and agree Giant do the best Bang for Buck bikes. Coming up 2 years now and it has has alot of use and stood up bloody well.

    Don't think I've come accross too much bike "snobbery" as such, although not to say there is certainly an element of aloofness (bet I've spelt that wrong). Me an my mates will rock up in our family wagons and happily park next to some dude in his Audi Q7 or Porsche Cayenne with their 7k carbon fibre rocket bikes. At least they are there and riding and for the most part have found they are quite happy to chat and discuss the track and what sort of day they've had. Just have to remember their poo stinks like every body elses and they put their trousers on one leg at a time just like the rest of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dummyrunner View Post
    Hey Tone's, good thread. I ride a Giant XTC 29er and agree Giant do the best Bang for Buck bikes. Coming up 2 years now and it has has alot of use and stood up bloody well.

    Don't think I've come accross too much bike "snobbery" as such, although not to say there is certainly an element of aloofness (bet I've spelt that wrong). Me an my mates will rock up in our family wagons and happily park next to some dude in his Audi Q7 or Porsche Cayenne with their 7k carbon fibre rocket bikes. At least they are there and riding and for the most part have found they are quite happy to chat and discuss the track and what sort of day they've had. Just have to remember their poo stinks like every body elses and they put their trousers on one leg at a time just like the rest of us.
    To be honest it's the reverse snobbery that I see that I don't get.

    People with the big $$ bikes don't go around as much saying why are you ridding that ??

    But the people on the cheaper bikes just can't seam to just accept that someone rides a big dollar bike.
    It's all, he has more money than sence, it's not all about the bike, If he spent more time riding he would be much faster & stuff like that.

    The people I don't like riding with are the people that always turn up late or more often than not have a brake down & you have to stop & help them fix it & if they had spent 2 min checking there bike after last time they rode it they would have picked it up.

    But most of all other people don't care as much as we think they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    To be honest it's the reverse snobbery that I see that I don't get.

    People with the big $$ bikes don't go around as much saying why are you ridding that ??

    But the people on the cheaper bikes just can't seam to just accept that someone rides a big dollar bike.
    It's all, he has more money than sence, it's not all about the bike, If he spent more time riding he would be much faster & stuff like that.

    The people I don't like riding with are the people that always turn up late or more often than not have a brake down & you have to stop & help them fix it & if they had spent 2 min checking there bike after last time they rode it they would have picked it up.

    But most of all other people don't care as much as we think they do.
    Good points. Tried to rep you but must have got you recently in one of the "rep ho" forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    To be honest it's the reverse snobbery that I see that I don't get.

    People with the big $$ bikes don't go around as much saying why are you ridding that ??

    But the people on the cheaper bikes just can't seam to just accept that someone rides a big dollar bike..
    Fortunately I haven't run into this problem yet, I used to get so many complements on my Tallboy almost every person I stopped to chat with on trail, would ask me about it. I really enjoyed giving my build breakdown and tips to everyone.

    When people saw me on my Canzo it was "Wow I thought Voodoo went outa business years ago..."

    When they see me on my Giant its "Why would you buy a Giant You must not have known there is a Speshy dealer literally right down the road "

    So I guess it depends a lot on where you live/ride
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    I don't see that snobby attitude here. I can count all the Giants I've seen on one hand so far on the trails. Most ride Specialized or Trek here. I rode everything I could before I bought my XTC2 and although the components were on the weak side, it rode nicer than the other bikes in it's class.

    The boutique bikes are way too expensive IMHO for what you get. Giant builds the best frames and they build frames for many others. I test rode the Scott's while testing my bike and they only had a 5 yr. warranty while Giant builds their frames. I thought that was pretty funny.

    One thing I really like is the Maestro suspension. I've tried the Tallboy and the Niner bikes and the Maestro suspension just seems nicer to me. I thought the Giant bikes pedalled better and I think they are a much better value overall.
    I'd save the thousands and buy the Giant AnthemX 29 or Trance X 29.
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    Haha I'm the opposite..

    Haha i usually "smug" the guy that went out and bought the most expensive bike he could because its "cool" and he "needs" it.. Some of the most sketchy riders i see are on 5k+ bikes haha.. Its kind of like people going out and buying a lambo to send the message im a badass with money. I have a '10 Rincon that i have customized and built and also a '12 reign 2 I'm doing the same to. And yes i didnt even spring for the reign 1 or x. I liked the black better, also i like putting components on it that I like and want!
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    I can honestly say no one has ever said anything bad about any bike I have owned, I have bought Norco, Cannondale and now a Giant, all have been good. My cannondale is 19 years old and still a 25 lbs XC bike and still has full warrranty on frame Hell even the head shock still works and has had zero work on it. For me I could care less what someone is riding or how good they are, you having fun? Thats all that counts, you dont need a 6000 dollar bike to have fun.

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    The only negative I can see is that there are lots of them. But to hammer them because they represent value???

    My gf and I have owned 9 or 10 Giants. Never a single issue. I HAVE had issues with the other brands I've dealth with; Trek and Specialized. Not bagging them, but thems are the facts.
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    Without giant, I wouldnt be in this sport. $1900 for a reign 2 with fox suspension front and rear. Yes, i know they are low end parts but 1900 is enough for a frame only if I go for other brands

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    The rider makes the bike. To be honest I use to be guilty of brand bashing myself. I would never say it to the person though. When I look at department store brand bikes I can't help feel bad for the rider. I too have had a department brand bike. So that I feel comes from previous experiance. When I seen others on expensive exotics, my first impression was rich or mommy/daddy paid for that. I know that's bad but thats what I use to think. Just like with giant I think most who never owned one are the ones bashing it. I never liked Chevy but loved Ford. I drove a Ford truck growing up and my cousin drove a Chevy truck. It was a constant battle on who had the better truck. I never gave into Chevy until I fell on hard times and had to buy a Chevy. In the end they are both great trucks. I no longer bash chevy but I still won't buy another. Lol

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    Two points:

    (1.)
    The other extreme on price confuses me too; some Giant bikes are quite dear, it's simply that to buy the equivalent in another brand costs significantly more. My Trance X Advanced SL 0 wasn't cheap, but I did get it on a major discount. I would've paid a sh*tload more in another brand to get the equivalent.

    (2.)
    If you compare Giant and another brand for an almost identically specced bike; break it down:

    1. remove groupo/brakes
    2. remove wheels
    3. remove suspension
    4. etc etc

    Now, (1). -(4.) are the SAME between both bikes leaving you with the frames. Giant makes their own frames (AND a good chance of making the other brand in comparison here). Then the extra you pay is due to frames. Yes, there is a difference attributed to brand, BUT in terms of the actual physical bike, it's the frame. So to bag Giant is essentially to bag the frame. So..........IF the Giant frame is fundamentally bad then why do other companies get Giant to produce frames for them!?

    Other alternative is that the comparison company makes there own frames and the extra you pay is because that frame is so much better. Well as an amateur rider I will never be able to tell the difference. If the Giant frame is fundamentally rock solid and does it job, I'm over the moon.

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    I haven't noticed much hate on Giant bikes on the canadian west coast. Seems every big brand gets its fair share of negative views.

    Recently I had only been riding on Cannondale's and Treks, but got onto a Giant today and immediately fell in love with it. Honestly I would have never gone out looking for a Giant, but I'm really glad I ended up at a Giant dealer today. From the research I've done, its the best bike for the money and it looks awesome. So good enough for me.

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    well i only had my xtc 2012 model for about 9 months or so but found when looking at scott , trek and few other brands they had best range and also the price range of 1000-2000 that i could afford.

    i def couldnt afford some other the other bikes some of the stores weren't willing to budge on last year or year before that bikes so that put me off buying there.

    i saw some really extreme downhill bike that were way past my skill level would be wasted on me but were 3000 plus

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    I got 2 old Giant MTB and shopping for a new one now and a 2006 Toyota Corolla I just love things that work and last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purdyboy View Post
    Also in Oz.
    My mate (who was from Colorado but living in Oz now) jokingly called my 2012 Anthem X0 29er "the Toyota Corolla of mountainbikes"... But at the same time he heaped praise on it.

    Out on the trails I would actually say i've only had positive interest in the bike.

    This is my first Giant, so not brand-proud etc.
    Still amazed at the performance that's crammed into this bike for the money I payed.

    Anyhow, who cares what other people think.

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    My bike is a Giant. I haven't encountered any hate, but probably because the LBS is a dealer for them so they're common and people seem to have an amount of respect for them. I am not sure I am going to stay with Giant when I upgrade, though. But it's not because it's not a good bike. I love mine, and it's what got me out there on the trails, so I'll always respect Giant!

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    As someone who owns two Giants (and used to own a 'boutique' frame which didn't perform as well), I do have to admit that the paint schemes are bloody awful.

    It's hard to get excited about a great performing frame it it looks like it's designed by a 13 year old with crayons!

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    Yeah My bikes are both kinda ugly 01 XTC SE2 and Iguana. I need to brake one down at a time and get them refinished.

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    As someone who owns two Giants (and used to own a 'boutique' frame which didn't perform as well), I do have to admit that the paint schemes are bloody awful.

    It's hard to get excited about a great performing frame it it looks like it's designed by a 13 year old with crayons!

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    I love my 2009 Giant Trance X. And thinking about the 29'er soon. I get **** about a Giant as well. But they don't find it too funny when im outclimbing them and their fancy boutique brand bikes tha cost twice as much for the same quality.
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    In my OP i probably a bit harsh with the use of the word hate, its not really hate its just a bit of a snobby attitude from a few about Giant bikes, needless to say this is never from anybody that owns a Giant, they are great bikes, in fact the Maestro on my reign is imo the most efficient and best suspension system on the market..
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    Hello :-) I bought a revel, Revel LTD1. I found the frame to have little "spots"/"stains" that I have never seen before in frames. I put some notes here (long history.....): [cstcr.wordpress.com]. Are these "defects" common for these "low end" mtbs (or revel)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by m3br View Post
    Hello :-) I bought a revel, Revel LTD1. I found the frame to have little "spots"/"stains" that I have never seen before in frames. I put some notes here (long history.....): [cstcr.wordpress.com]. Are these "defects" common for these "low end" mtbs (or revel)?
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    Congrats Dan on your new bike, mate can you take some pics and put them up so we can have a look at what your talkin about, cheers
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    Hi :-)

    I detailed the very long and recent story at this web address: cstcr.wordpress.com

    For sure I was very enthusiast about the brand and I strongly chose it but later I found out that maybe there's something that should be "tuned" with customer relation somewhere in the long long chain

    This has also to do with "why no love..." that's the reason I decided to post it here

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    Quote Originally Posted by m3br View Post
    Hi :-)

    I detailed the very long and recent story at this web address: cstcr.wordpress.com

    For sure I was very enthusiast about the brand and I strongly chose it but later I found out that maybe there's something that should be "tuned" with customer relation somewhere in the long long chain

    This has also to do with "why no love..." that's the reason I decided to post it here

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    Dan first off nice bike mate, it looks great, look i think giant have been pretty good so far, they sent you a new bike, its a bit dissapointing that it has a few marks on it but they are very small, i wouldnt worry about them, its a white frame and its gonna get a few more.
    The one on the crank is nothing, your crank is gonna get tonnes of scratches from your shoes any way, and if you dont like it just touch it up with a bit of model paint but i wouldnt worry.
    the one on your fork is the same, its nothing, you will have heaps of those in a year anyway, i wouldnt worry about it, its been done in transit id say but its so tiny i wouldnt worry.
    the very light smudges are basically nothing, i would not even notice them if i looked at your bike, its a white bike, its gonna get heaps of marks and scratches.

    I can see your a real nice guy through the letter i read, and your prob a bit of a perfectionist, just remember its a bike and its meant to have lots of scratches and marks on it, a month after i buy a 3 thousand dollar bike its covered in them.

    Remember too that its your job now to learn how to service it and make sure the wheels are mounted correctly etc, theres always a few lil issues you have to sort out with a new bike, you might have to fiddle with the breaks n gears to get them right, thats all normal..

    My advise is, get out there and ride it hard, forget about any tiny blemishes, Giant did send you out the new one and it looks pretty good to me mate, so dont hold back, get on it n have some fun and go put a few more scratches on it then you wont even notice the others.
    cheers mate and PM me if you have any dramas with it n we can sort them out.

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    :-)

    thanks for your comments and suggestions, very appreciated.

    Well, yes, I tend to be perfectionist. But unfortunately I am really not so :-) I am very aware of the future of the bike, taking a look at my previous one (not the same brand). Not a single person would recommend to drive it ehehe.

    As for the story, I know it is a little problem but there are some questions that put me into "action mode". this is a second bike that has been pushed into the market with same little issue (I suppose). I think that owner's manual do some "recommendations" about stains (that can vary in nature, of course). As far as I know, It is well proven that warranty will cover again my problem. Who will take charge of mounting/remounting the new bike? Everyone knows the answer: probably last ring of the selling chain. Then I ask myself: was the issue known before sending them out? How many of them?
    I even would have been very pleased to receive a _formal_ letter stating that issue is not an issue, and probably I would have been much happier and could start driving!
    For sure I will never get any answer but Okay I tried to ask to myself, at least :-)

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    I thought people hated Trek?

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    I love my Giant!Why no love and heaps of hate for Giant bikes?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1351471552.874567.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by macduff View Post
    Just bought myself a new old stock reign X2 from my lbs. I've been out of the loop of whats current in the mtb scene for a long while as my last bike purchase was an orange X2 full suspension back in 1997, still have it. Maybe Giant are too much the Ford of the MTB world for the bike tarts but I'm loving mine...1 down
    Dead on with what I was thinking. I liken it to my buddy's 2003 Mustang Cobra. In the scheme of things, it is a cheap car in the $40k range (new). But for the performance you get (supercharged 390hp) it easily keeps up with and often out-performs much, much more expensive cars.

    To me, that is what Giant is. Value and performance. They easily rival, and often out-perform much more expensive bikes.......and they hate them for it. I think that is what all the hate is......JEALOUSY.
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    I agree, I was going to buy a new bike next year but I love this XTC 29er 2 so much that I decided to spend some cash and upgrade it. It just got some new Stans ZTR Arch Ex on Hope hubs. The next round of parts will be the new Hope Evo Tech V4 brakes with matching floating rotors. I have new carbon bars waiting to go on and a carbon seat post is in the works as well. Shifters I will replace when they fail. I just love the ride and the way the bike handles and figured why spend another 2k and not get what I want, even the 4k bikes dont have parts I want so I decided to upgrade what I have. Oh getting a new Hope stem as well, can you tell I love Hope products LOL.

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