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    I was wondering what max markings are on the trance seatpost. A reverb has a limit of 80mm but some manufacturers will spec a limit of 100mm or even 120mm. Using less post in the frame could void the warranty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmal26 View Post
    Question for the lucky ones who have their TX29. What it the minimum seatpost lenght that needs to be inside the frame. I am trying to decide if I can get away with a Large frames size instead of the XL. Thanks
    I can only speak for the X/L. Seat post is 30.9 X 375.

    Minimum insertion line is 120mm.

    I also went back and forth, between Large and X/L, but in the end went X/L because I have a long upper body. Everyones different, and will have different results.

    Whichever you get you will love it!!

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    I'm not familiar with Giant wheels. Anyone know if the X2 or X1 are tubeless ready?

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    Tires Schwalbe Nobby Nic, 29x2.25 TL Ready Evolution Folding

    I think they are.

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    I think not. P-XC29 and S-XC29 have a std spoke-bed AFAIK.

    Would be nice to know the weights of the three wheelsets though...

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    PXC are easily converted to tubeless - many have done the ghetto method - i bought the Stans rimstrips (not the tape) as recommended - the "flow" rim strip - and within 30 mins had both wheels mounted with a handpump

    used em for almost 3 mos before I added another shot of sealant - and rarely added air

    tires were panaracer 2.35 rampage frt, maxxis 2.25 ardent rear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haggis View Post
    I think not. P-XC29 and S-XC29 have a std spoke-bed AFAIK.

    Would be nice to know the weights of the three wheelsets though...
    Straight from the Giant catalog:

    X0 - P-TRX 29er 1 Wheel system, 1795-Gram , Tubeless compatible.

    Will try to get the other two weights, but catalog not complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    I can only speak for the X/L. Seat post is 30.9 X 375.

    Minimum insertion line is 120mm.

    I also went back and forth, between Large and X/L, but in the end went X/L because I have a long upper body. Everyones different, and will have different results.

    Whichever you get you will love it!!
    Thanks Z4. Looks like even using my reverb 420mm post if I need 120mm of seatpost inside the frame, XL is the only option to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmal26 View Post
    I was wondering what max markings are on the trance seatpost. A reverb has a limit of 80mm but some manufacturers will spec a limit of 100mm or even 120mm. Using less post in the frame could void the warranty?
    100mm minimum in the manual for the seat post that came with my L trance x 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    Straight from the Giant catalog:

    X0 - P-TRX 29er 1 Wheel system, 1795-Gram , Tubeless compatible.

    Will try to get the other two weights, but catalog not complete.

    Cheers. Went for a spin on a medium X1 tonight - extended steep climb, rock gardens, fast & twisty downs. Moved all the spacers above the stem, (but didn't flip it), which improved the handling hugely. Felt really good for a 29er, I'm impressed. Seemed to fall between my RX and TX 26rs in terms of handling. A Fox 34, flat bar, straight-post and a shorter flipped stem would complete the package nicely.
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    That sounds like a great setup Haggis. I've already ordered a Thomson X4 0 degree stem. Seat post next. Its a great ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    That sounds like a great setup Haggis. I've already ordered a Thompson X4 0 degree stem. Seat post next. Its a great ride.
    Don't know if I missed something, but that stem won't fit the Trance X 29's Overdrive steerer. They are 1 1/4" not 1 1/8". Just a heads up.
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    I know. It's a bit confusing Trance X0 and X1 have the OD2, 1 1/4 upper 1 1/2 lower.
    Trance 2 has OD 1 1/8 upper. 1 1/2 lower. Verified on their spec sheet and LBS.

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    Just got my large X1 last night. It came with a 90mm stem. My experience with sizing is that Giant got this bike pretty well dead on. I'm 6'1" and 210, and ride Large on any bike. I dropped the stem and swapped 15mm of spacers to the top, and that's about it. All the hand wringing over sizing seems a little out of control to me.

    It rode great, very fast. I rode with the front and rear shocks in "trail" the entire time and didn't feel like I was losing much effort to bobbing, etc. 5" of travel makes a world of difference!

    Get one, fast as you can get it ordered and shipped in!

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    Does anyone else prefer the "Trail" setting on the shock to the "Descend", even when descending? I seem to always end up leaving my in Trail unless I'm on a fire road climb or pavement.

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    Anyone know the shock length on the Tx 29er. Is it still the 7.5[185mm] x 2 [50mm] used on the Tx 26"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fontarin View Post
    Does anyone else prefer the "Trail" setting on the shock to the "Descend", even when descending? I seem to always end up leaving my in Trail unless I'm on a fire road climb or pavement.
    I live in Florida! I could leave it in "Climb" if I wanted. I do leave mine in the Trail mode. I will have to wait until my next trip to the mountains to test the Descend mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    I know. It's a bit confusing Trance X0 and X1 have the OD2, 1 1/4 upper 1 1/2 lower.
    Trance 2 has OD 1 1/8 upper. 1 1/2 lower. Verified on their spec sheet and LBS.
    Apparently the difference is the fork's steerer and the top bearing of the headset. The head tube/ frame is unchanged between build kits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill88 View Post
    Apparently the difference is the fork's steerer and the top bearing of the headset. The head tube/ frame is unchanged between build kits
    Agreed.. It does give a better choice for stems, until they ramp up production for the larger size.

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    What are you platform guys running for pedals? I have an X2 an have it narrowed down to spank spike's in orange or blue, or loaded precision pedals in blue. Decisions, decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbutcherer View Post
    What are you platform guys running for pedals? I have an X2 an have it narrowed down to spank spike's in orange or blue, or loaded precision pedals in blue. Decisions, decisions.
    SPDs all the way - Shimano XT M785 Trail Wide

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    Still 4 weeks till I get my hands on the frame but first impressions from 29 inches aren't as good as I hoped; sold my Sultan for something a bit lighter but wondering if I should have kept now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharcyde View Post
    SPDs all the way - Shimano XT M785 Trail Wide
    +1 for the XT M785's. I had these pre-purchased over a month in advance and waiting for the bike. Great pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvs_nz View Post
    Anyone know the shock length on the Tx 29er. Is it still the 7.5[185mm] x 2 [50mm] used on the Tx 26"?

    Yes...it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugs View Post
    Still 4 weeks till I get my hands on the frame but first impressions from 29 inches aren't as good as I hoped; sold my Sultan for something a bit lighter but wondering if I should have kept now!

    Interbike 2012 Ride Impressions: Giant Trance X 29er 0
    I think you'll be fine. Note that it says it doesn't do one feature of each of those as well as specific bikes. It's a very nice all-rounder, in my opinion. Also, I feel that it takes a bit more setup on the suspension to get it perfect for your riding style, but once you do, it performs extremely well. Also, if you got a complete bike, make sure to lose some of the spacers if it comes with a huge stack like most I've seen.

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    I finally got a chance to ride my new XO on some trails today and was very impressed. My most recent mountain bike was a Scott Spark and I had never ridden a 29er prior to this XO. I don't know if it is the larger wheels or suspension or a combination of both, but this bike handles the roots and climbs better than any other mountain bike I have ridden. I was surprised at how quickly I became comfortable handling this bike on the trails since I was coming from a 26er. I am 5'9" and bought a medium and find the sizing perfect. My Spark weighed about 5lbs less, but I definitely prefer the Maestro suspension even with the added weight. I would love for the X0 to be lighter, but I doubt it would make any difference in my riding performance or pleasure. I am not the most experienced mountain biker, but I do not find this bike feeling big or experienced any issues with the front end lifting on steep climbs as a few others have mentioned. The XT brakes and shifting are excellent and I find the saddle comfortable. I have no regrets purchasing this bike.

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    Good points Brooks. Although I have the X2, (my wallet, and my wife wouldn' allow X0 ;-) ....I find this bike to be hugely enjoyable. It is very stable, and as I get it more tuned in, it only gets better at both cimbing and desending. Enjoy your new ride!!

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    I demo'd a Trance XO this past weekend and rode the BLT/Noble Canyon just east of San Diego ( I have a X1 on order, but it will be a few weeks before it arrives). I am a recent convert to 29" wheels after 15 yrs on 26" bikes. My regular ride is a '12 Giant Anthem XO 29er that I have been on for 6 months. The Anthem will remain my race bike, but I wanted a "fun" bike for all mountain type riding.

    Now to my impressions of the bike:
    This was a perfect trail to get an all around impression of the bike. We rode about 35 miles, which included an 8 mi climb, some nice mostly flat single track, and a 10 mi ripping downhill that transitioned from smooth and flow-y to technical and rocky. Here's my strava info from the ride: Mountain Bike Ride Profile | 33miles near Pine Valley | Times and Records | Strava

    The ride started on the climb. I switched between the "trail" and "climb" settings on the suspension to get a feel of the difference. I have to say, the bike was surprisingly efficient in the Climb setting, so it stayed there a majority of the climb. My riding partner actually commented about how little the suspension was reacting to my pedal stroke.

    Once we got to the top, I flipped everything to the Trail mode, where it stayed until the long downhill. One some of the short, twisty downhills, I did notice a bit of a peculiar handling characteristic. The rear end has a slight "swing around" feeling. The really exaggerated way to describe it would be as if you had a swiveling castor wheel in back (like the front wheel on a shopping cart). Obviously, it's not really as if it has a castor wheel in back, but a hint of that sensation is there. I wouldn't necessarily say that I had a strong opinion about this characteristic, good or bad, only that it was something I had to get accustomed to and definitely different from my AX29. Otherwise, I found it pretty easy to handle and it seemed to stay on line well.

    Now to the descent. A quick flip of the suspension to the "Descend" setting and away we went. This bike is a absolute joy when headed downhill. Don't let the strava rankings/times fool you; my buddy's bike had mechanical problems the whole way down, so much of the recorded time was spent working on his rig. Whether it was setting into berms or floating over rocks, the bike was super predictable by this point.

    I know other folks in this thread have a different opinion, but I definitely enjoyed having the CTD suspension. It was a decided advantage to be able to firm up the suspension on the climbs and open it up on the DHs. Can't wait to get my bike, this ride was only enough to whet my appetite
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTAC View Post
    Yes...it is.
    Thanks.

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    Can't wait to get my med x1.
    Back order with no date.
    Hopefully before snow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spazdad View Post
    Can't wait to get my med x1.
    Back order with no date.
    Hopefully before snow
    Wow. I guess I should count my blessings. I ordered by X0 and got it in less than a week.
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    Not to make you guys feel bad, but my LBS has a Md. X0, Md. & Lg. X1 and two X2's, just sitting on the floor.
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    When I ordered mine my LBS didn't have any on the floor as it was so new. The bike I ordered was the first one he sold. Now he has them in stock.
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    I live in Wisconsin. Not much 5" worthy trails here. But 7 hrs north is copper harbor an a few other good trails. We have some real nice rocky trails about 15 mins from my house in the kettles. Basically where the glaciers went through and gouged the land into a ton off awesome wooded his and valleys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach417 View Post
    Not to make you guys feel bad, but my LBS has a Md. X0, Md. & Lg. X1 and two X2's, just sitting on the floor.
    You really know how to hurt a guy Coach!!!!!!!! The wait to see/demo is nearly killing me

    Have demo'ed the Yeti SB95 and Kona Satori thus far

    Yeti - good bike but just never felt very comfortable on it - that said - it's still a pretty rocking bike

    Kona - this one honestly disappeared beneath me and was great for such a long travel 29 - gonna ride it again - after I demo the TX29

    good news I guess - I eliminated the most expensive on my target list!

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    Those that have the TX29ers can you please tell me how the Fox and Rockshox rear shock are tuned in the Factory. The shocks will have a red and blue letter on them.

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    Anyone tried a 140mm fork or know if the frame is warranted for a fork this length?

    I have a Reba 120mm but wondering whether to get a Rev 140mm DPA in its place as the RCT3 damping is way better.

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    Demo'd an X0 three weeks ago and was really impressed. One of my riding buddies bought herself an Anthem X 29er last year and her riding skills have increased immeasurably. The 29er just rolls over everything that gets put in front of it. She climbs like a goat on it and I have been jealous ever since. I've been in the market for a new full suspension bike for a while now and when I heard about the Trance X 29er coming out this year, I was hoping I'd get the opportunity to try it out. As luck would have it, our LBS scheduled the demo truck to coincide with our club's fall mountain bike festival, and my wish came true.

    I never thought I'd afford an X0, so I decided I'd try for the X1 and upgrade to the XT brakes, as I really liked those a lot. Coming from mechanical brakes, I was in awe. The shop owner said he'd see what he could do for me and let me know. Imagine my surprise when he called to tell me he could get me an amazing deal on an X0 and would I be interested. For the price I was quoted, there was no way I could say no. My small X0 arrived in the shop on Thursday and I picked it up on Friday. The shop owner was incredible. He routed all the cables internally for me, and trimmed them up beautifully. On top of that he set the wheels up tubeless for me with Stans. Are you kidding me??? Holy cow - that was above and beyond. I've had perma-grin since I got the call about the bike on Tuesday.

    Today I got to take it out for its inaugural spin. I'm 5'4" with a 29 1/2" standover. The cockpit has been set up with the stem flipped and no spacers beneath it. As such, the handlebars are *just* about even with the saddle. The reach for me feels spot-on. I have a bit of bend in the arms, but it doesn't feel too short and is definitely not too long. The handlebars feel perfect to me, but I have been riding wider bars and shorter stems for a few years now. The only change I have made from stock is to swap out the Fizik saddle for a Specialized Ariel - that Gobi was definitely NOT made for a woman ;o).

    I started off my ride with a nice climb up a benchcut with a couple of switchbacks. No issues whatsoever. In fact, to me, I felt like it handled the switchbacks just as well, if not better than the 26er I was coming off of. I had no nose lift in the front during my climb. I was able to scoot up a bit on the saddle and weight the front end and it felt natural to me and didn't feel like it took any effort to keep the nose down. I do have to get used to the 2x10 gearing. I'm coming from a 3x9 SRAM setup and yeah, this is definitely a bit different. But that's okay, it's just all part of the learning curve of having a new bike, IMO. Shifting was ridiculously smooth and quiet. Very responsive and quick. I heard that there is a breaking-in period for the Shadow derailleur with the clutch, but honestly, I never noticed any hesitation at all.

    The next part of the ride involved a technical rooty/rocky descent over some loose stones. It handled it beautifully. I was going rather slowly and yet I never felt like I had trouble steering it or getting it to respond to my input. The brakes felt awesome! The next section was a flowy bit of trail with some nice turns thrown in. This bike loves to corner. It felt incredibly stable and I had no issues leaning the bike at all and just letting it do its thing. Cornering has always been a weak point for me - I'll readily admit to that. I felt very comfortable maneuvering my body in the cockpit and leaning. I have a singlespeed 29er and this bike, to me, simply did NOT feel like it was big or anything else, at least in regards to me and my riding style. I felt very comfortable on it.

    That being said, there were a couple of thing I noticed. I knew it had a lower bottom bracket, and I had a lot of pedal strikes. I checked out my rear shock and noticed that the O ring was all the way at the bottom. I didn't go over anything that would cause it to bottom out like that, so I wondered if perhaps it just needed more air. This is how it had been set up at the LBS though, so I figured I'd just finish the ride out as it was. I was riding with flat pedals - a decision I made a few months ago right before I attended a skills clinic. I felt, for myself, that I was relying on clipless pedals too much and wanted to work on my skills a bit before giving them a try again. Also, I was having a lot of knee and back pain - which has diminished considerably since I went back to flats. Anyway, you do have to be aware (at least on the small bike) where your foot placement is, as I did experience toe rub from time to time. However, I do get that on my other 29er sometimes, so it's an easy enough adjustment for me.

    The wheels felt great to me and very solid. This was my first experience riding tubeless and I loved it. The Nobby Nics were awesome!! I rode back to the parking lot and got out my shock pump. The rear shock was set a lot lower than what I would normally ride, so I added some air. Same with the fork. I'll give that a spin sometime this week (wet forecast for most of it, so not sure when that will be) and see how it feels to me.
    There are a lot of features on this bike I haven't really tried yet, including switching the settings between climb, trail and descend. And I'll admit, I probably am not the person to ask about that this is my first experience with Fox and such an adjustable suspension system. I left everything on the trail setting for the entire ride.

    So, my ride report isn't full of all kinds of techni-speak but my overall impression is very good. The suspension is very plush and the bike was a joy to ride. I'm really happy with my decision!
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    If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get your X0 for? I really want one, just hoping I can find a decent deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cms_atx View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get your X0 for? I really want one, just hoping I can find a decent deal.

    Honestly, the stars must have been aligned for me and my LBS must have worked some serious magic - I got it for just a bit more than what the X1 costs. I never would have expected that in a million years. Like I said, I figured I'd go for the X1 (even that was more than I had originally intended on spending) and upgrade the brakes.

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    ^ size small?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VERT1 View Post
    Those that have the TX29ers can you please tell me how the Fox and Rockshox rear shock are tuned in the Factory. The shocks will have a red and blue letter on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    ^ size small?
    Yup! I may scoot the saddle back just a hair, too. I had it almost all the way forward as that's how the LBS had the stock saddle set up for me.

    You said you tried the medium, right Nicole? Is there any chance you could sit on a small? I honestly thought I was going to be an x-small too, based on the #'s on the Giant website and what people were saying about order a size smaller than what they would normally go with. I couldn't imagine trying to go smaller now.

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    Hey Nicole - my wife has ridden my TX29er a few times now, and it doesn't feel too big on her (she rides my Anthem too). Size S, she's 5'3". No problems in comparison to Epic/Anthem. She hasn't done any long rides on it, but for short jaunts it's fine. I'll get her to do a longer ride on it at some point soon. She could probably go with the XS and be comfortable too, though.

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    i sat on a med because thats all they had. it was massive for me. well, maybe it just seemed that way because i had the seat real low, and the bars felt so high. I havent made up my mind on this bike yet. it is great, but i may also have a custom frame made (thats a whole different story)
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    Went out and rented a 2013 Giant Trance X 29er on Friday night. Did a quick 15 miler on it on Friday night on my local trails, then went up to Auburn on Saturday and did another 25 miles with about 3000 feet of climbing to see if the bike really was that good. It was! I smashed all my PR's on Strava riding this bike. I went to return the bike and wound up buying on for a price I could not refuse.
    This bike just rolls thru and over everything and seems to be at least as quick and flickable as my old 2008 stumpjumper pro. The suspension is masterful, I the settings on trail most of the time and felt very little bob, it felt very efficient. I think it climbed as well as the stumpjumper due to the oversize wheels, and active suspension. I switched to descend at the end of my ride which was a 3 mile rocky downhill. I have never gone as fast as I did then! WOW, this bike is a fun and fast descender, just rolls over everything! The big reason I went with this over the 29er epic or any of the 29er treks was standover. I am only 5-4 and really did not have any standover on any of those bikes. This bike gives me about 1-2 inches of standover. The only thing I am gonigto change is the brakes to XT andput on a 22 inner chainring so I can get up the steep pitches a bit easier.
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    One thing I am a little bummed about is the ability to run any kind of bashguard on the Shimano XT 2X10 setup. I've always just replaced the 3rd ring on my other bikes to run a bashguard and just never gave it a thought with this bike. Without the ISCG tabs, I'm out of luck . I'll ride the bike as it is and see how it goes, but we have a lot of log piles and rock gardens on my local trails that bashguards on my other bikes have proved their worth. Any chance that Giant will be developing some kind of adapter to allow the use of a bashguard?

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    Is it feasible to expect Giant to come up with an adapter for a Shimano product?

    Perhaps you can sell the cranks for a set of cranks you prefer. Considering you purchased a small frame, maybe this would be a good chance to try cranks with shorter crank arms.

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    Those ****ing things look insane ! Can't wait to test one
    Ride

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    About how long do you expect a bike to be on back order when they give no date for availability. ?

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