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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168 View Post
    Picked up my frameset today, looks stunning! 6.53lbs in XL with seat clamp, headset cups and chainstay protector.

    Can someone measure the seat tube length on their XL frame? Measured from centre of BB to top of seat tube I'm getting 520mm-ish, so a lot less than the 560mm/22in listed in Giantís geometry.
    Just measured my X/L. Same as you, roughly 520mm.

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    Thanks! Seems a little odd but totally fine if thatĎs how it should be. The effective top tube measures roughly what it should, which matters more to me. Head tube length is 10mm longer than the chart says though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168 View Post
    Thanks! Seems a little odd but totally fine if thatĎs how it should be. The effective top tube measures roughly what it should, which matters more to me. Head tube length is 10mm longer than the chart says though.

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    Your frame looks awesome!!

    Couple questions; Did you get to select the shock or is that what came with it?

    What is your head tube length?

    Is your headset the overdrive or overdrive 2?

    And finally, did you get the chain stay cover with it, if not where did you get it?

    Can,t wait to see pics of your completed build!!

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    Finally collected my frame and built it today (pics to follow), exact same as EGF 168 but in size large. Really happy it came with the Kashima shoc, wasnt expecting that

    Full internal routing was a total PITA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    Your frame looks awesome!!

    Couple questions; Did you get to select the shock or is that what came with it?

    What is your head tube length?

    Is your headset the overdrive or overdrive 2?

    And finally, did you get the chain stay cover with it, if not where did you get it?

    Can,t wait to see pics of your completed build!!

    The shock came as standard which is one of the reasons I went with this frame. Not many brands even come close to this kind of value for money(in the UK). Even some of Giantís other frames have a cheaper shock for the same price.

    Headtube length is 120mm, excluding a couple of mm either end for the headset cups. I havenít checked but the headset should be the ordinary overdrive. Not much point sending the overdrive 2 headset if forks for it arenít available easily.

    Included with the frame was the usual paperwork, clear patches for cable rub, seat clamp, cable ties/clips, chainstay protector and a full FSA headset including crown races for straight or tapered forks.

    Iím not too sure whatís going on the frame yet so it will get built soon but not quite yet. The main thing is either buying a new fork or servicing an existing one.

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    Still waiting on my x1 hopeing any day now it's been the longest 2 months of my life 🚵

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    Spent 4 hours on mine today, the ride is unbelievably good, its so stable and fun. Had a Turner Sultan prior to this and the Trance is way more active on the downs yet climbs just as well. Really happy with the sizing too, I'm 6'2" and the large fits like a glove with an 80mm stem and 750mm wide bars.



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    Looks neat! Itís nice how the lines and shape of the frame have more flow than the 26in model.

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    Here is mine.

    I have already upgraded the brakes, seat and wheelset. It has made a huge difference in the bike, saved about a 1.5 lbs by switcheng to the Crossmax wheelset set up tubeless. The XT brakes are a joy to ride with, so quiet and confidence inspiring! Bike overall has been a blast to ride. Bike weighs in at a shade under 28, Size small
    Giant really got this bike right, the short seats really help make the bike manuverable and the slack headtube makes it stable when pointed downward. I was having problems with a "light " front end until I removed some spacers to place more weight in front. Now when I go uphill it tracks much better and I dont feel like I am fighting the bike to go straight! I love the seatpost but wish that it did not have a 12mmsetback, a straight one have been better for me since I feel I am scooting up to the tip of the seat on steep climbs but its not a dealkiller. . I have about 350 miles on it in the past 6 weeks and my roadbike pretty much has been sitting on hooks in the garage! It flys up hills and bombs down them, running over everything I throw at it. I am hoping for a mild winter
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    Just a couple of shots from this weekend

    I let one of my friends I ride with try the bike out at Dryer Road Park in Victor, NY this past weekend. Several members of our mtb club decided to make a day trip up from Ithaca, NY. What a treat those trails are! We enjoyed the skills area and took some notes as we'd like to build something like that in our neck of the woods.

    Mo, who races downhill asked to try out the bike. He's about 6' and I figured my bike would be a bit too small, but he wanted to see what it could do. We had to put more air in the tires and pump up the shock. His first comment was how nimble the bike was - he couldn't get enough of it. He took it on all the features and got some air off one of the drops. Then he rode up the hill toward the jump progression trails. He was beaming when I finally asked for the bike back and said it reminded him of a slope-style bike with big wheels. I don't know if I'd go that far but he showed me it can handle way more than I can dish out at this point.
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    I have my TX29-1 for 3 weeks not and have to say I love it (now). I have also not a lot of experience of FS bikes, and have been riding a HT for the last year. First impressions of the TX29 was it felt very different from my hardtail, wider bars, longer top tube which made it a little awkward at first. Also my LBS did not set up the suspension correctly, too soft for my weight so my first ride got me worried about this bike. 3 weeks on and I now love this bike. I am like a kid when Im out with the friends because I want to ride over every obstacle they appears in front of me. It has even given me the confidence to search out 2-3ft drops which I would have stayed well clear of before riding the TX29. It is truly an amazing bike.

    A couple of points on this bike. Firstly the seat angle seems much more than the specified 73deg. For the first 2 weeks my lower back was killing me when climbing. This has gotten better with time but I have ordered a 80mm stem which hopefully will resolve this issue as I feel i might be too stretched out. I pushed my saddle forward but will move this back when I get the new stem.

    I think I am a good example to test the problem of the front end lifting on steep climbs as I ride a XL frame with a 420mm Reverb with only 95mm of seatpost in the frame. Im 6'4 and the tallest ride in my area so the light front end was a bit concern for me. I had this problem on many bikes in the past but I am happy to report this is not a problem for me on the TX29. If anything it is a little better than my last bike.

    This bike is a true speed machine and give the confidence to push hard on the trails. I have set a number of PB on strava on my last 2-3 rides which is the true guide for how fast this bike is.

    The main upgrades I plan for the bike is new brakes (find the Elixir 3 a little soft for my size - Im thinking XT), new wheels (crossmax st) and also a 150mm Reverb Stealth seatpost for the extra drop. I have changed the Nobby Nics for the bigger Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.35 tyres. These are huge tyres and clearance is not a problem.

    I have one questions for anyone who got the Frame only TX29. As I am considering a Reverb stealth seatpost once the 150mm comes available, is it possible to route the cable down the seattube, through the bottom bracket and up the down tube. From EGF168 pictures I can see a drain hole at the bottom of the downtube but not sure it there is still clearance at the bottom of the downtube to run the cable?

    I would also advice anyone undecided about this bike to make the leap. It is a fantastic bike, worth every cent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmal26 View Post
    I have one questions for anyone who got the Frame only TX29. As I am considering a Reverb stealth seatpost once the 150mm comes available, is it possible to route the cable down the seattube, through the bottom bracket and up the down tube. From EGF168 pictures I can see a drain hole at the bottom of the downtube but not sure it there is still clearance at the bottom of the downtube to run the cable?
    Thereíll be a few tight bends getting the cable past the BB and into the down tube but I had a quick go with section of outer cable and it seemed possible.

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    Looking at getting one of these bikes. Has anyone here converted the CTD Fox Fork/Shock to use the remote? Found the remote for $70, but nothing about the shock/fork parts and curious what the total would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothnic View Post
    Looking at getting one of these bikes. Has anyone here converted the CTD Fox Fork/Shock to use the remote? Found the remote for $70, but nothing about the shock/fork parts and curious what the total would be.
    I don't think the rear one can be converted. You have to buy the actual remote shock because they use different eyelets. The fork is doable though.

    Here's something I found on Pinkbike:
    CTD Remote: FOX's CTD remote resembles the remote used to control their D.O.S.S. post, but a closer look reveals there it uses a dual cable arrangement that simultaneously controls both the fork and shock. The larger silver lever lets riders go from Descend to Trail and to Climb, while the smaller black lever releases the cable to go the opposite direction. The mount itself is hinged for easy installation or removal, and could theoretically also be positioned under the bar on the left side in place of a front shifter.

    Forks that are purchased with crown mounted CTD controls can be converted with an aftermarket kit to use the remote, but this is not possible with the rear shocks due to an entirely different eyelet being required to mount the remote's cable stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fontarin View Post
    I don't think the rear one can be converted. You have to buy the actual remote shock because they use different eyelets. The fork is doable though.

    Here's something I found on Pinkbike:
    CTD Remote: FOX's CTD remote resembles the remote used to control their D.O.S.S. post, but a closer look reveals there it uses a dual cable arrangement that simultaneously controls both the fork and shock. The larger silver lever lets riders go from Descend to Trail and to Climb, while the smaller black lever releases the cable to go the opposite direction. The mount itself is hinged for easy installation or removal, and could theoretically also be positioned under the bar on the left side in place of a front shifter.

    Forks that are purchased with crown mounted CTD controls can be converted with an aftermarket kit to use the remote, but this is not possible with the rear shocks due to an entirely different eyelet being required to mount the remote's cable stop.
    Yeah, misread what I had seen on the bikeradar article on 2013 CTD shocks/forks. It states the same thing. That sucks, would kind of be nice to have. Could always exchange out rear shocks in the future, though.

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    Weight differences between X1 and X2?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    Good points Brooks. Although I have the X2, (my wallet, and my wife wouldn' allow X0 ;-) ....I find this bike to be hugely enjoyable. It is very stable, and as I get it more tuned in, it only gets better at both cimbing and desending. Enjoy your new ride!!
    I'm sorry if this has already been answered here but I'm looking for approximate weight differences between the two. Now, I know this is not a bike for weight weenies and I'm pretty set on the X1 just for the improved parts spec, at this point. I picked up both an X1 large and an X2 XL at my lbs and they felt really similar. Just curious if you or anyone else might know.

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    Does anyone know if there is water bottle mounts on the x1 large mine is due in next week and I was just going to order a nice carbon fiber bottle holder then when I looked at some pics I didn't see any mounting taps for one

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMTB View Post
    I'm sorry if this has already been answered here but I'm looking for approximate weight differences between the two. Now, I know this is not a bike for weight weenies and I'm pretty set on the X1 just for the improved parts spec, at this point. I picked up both an X1 large and an X2 XL at my lbs and they felt really similar. Just curious if you or anyone else might know.
    If they are same frame size, weight dif is 1lb. Saw it somewhere
    on a site when I was shopping. My X2 they said would be 30.7lb.
    Was almost exactly that at the shop where I got my bike. The
    X1 is 29.7, in med.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    Wow, I'm coming from the same background in that I rode a hardtail before getting the X2 29er. I absolutely love this bike, and it has not let me down yet. I just finished the Desert classic this morning and each time I go out it just puts a smile on my face. The F/S has allowed me to ride more technical portions and at the end of the ride I don't feel beat up at all, like I did on my hardtail. I am an older rider so I'm sure that's part of it.
    Were did they have the Demo? I know Specialized had one last weekend at Mcdowell mtn.
    And yes you can get this ride below list.
    Yes, it was the same weekend/parking lot as the Speshy demo. I passed two guys on Spesh f/s bikes on the demo loop and chuckled. Almost as if the bike wanted to pass them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grnd0 View Post
    If they are same frame size, weight dif is 1lb. Saw it somewhere
    on a site when I was shopping. My X2 they said would be 30.7lb.
    Was almost exactly that at the shop where I got my bike. The
    X1 is 29.7, in med.
    Thanks for the quick response. That's about what it felt like; not a whole lot of difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymx410 View Post
    Does anyone know if there is water bottle mounts on the x1 large mine is due in next week and I was just going to order a nice carbon fiber bottle holder then when I looked at some pics I didn't see any mounting taps for one

    Med and up have mounts.

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    Has anyone figured out what hubs come on the P-XC2 wheelset that comes on the Trance X1 29er? I've found references that they used to use DT Swiss 350 on some, seen references to Formula, or Deore as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothnic View Post
    Has anyone figured out what hubs come on the P-XC2 wheelset that comes on the Trance X1 29er? I've found references that they used to use DT Swiss 350 on some, seen references to Formula, or Deore as well.
    Giant dealer said they were DT Swiss (no model mentioned) but I though I read somewhere that only 1 hub was DT Swiss or, rather, Giant licensed the design from DT Swiss. The other hub is Formula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCMTB View Post
    Giant dealer said they were DT Swiss (no model mentioned) but I though I read somewhere that only 1 hub was DT Swiss or, rather, Giant licensed the design from DT Swiss. The other hub is Formula.
    Yeah, I'll have to check it out then. If it is still the 350 rebranded in the rear, the star ratchet upgrade looks to be worth doing. Also might relace some of the generic chinese carbon rims onto the hubs if they are decent enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothnic View Post
    Yeah, I'll have to check it out then. If it is still the 350 rebranded in the rear, the star ratchet upgrade looks to be worth doing. Also might relace some of the generic chinese carbon rims onto the hubs if they are decent enough.
    The catalog says; for the X1 Hubs, (F) Giant Tracker Sealed/CNC w/15mm Axle.
    (R) Giant Tracker Performance, 32H
    DT Swiss Competition Spokes 14/15G

    X2 ------ (F) Same as X1
    (R) Formula Sealed Bearing, 32H

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    The catalog says; for the X1 Hubs, (F) Giant Tracker Sealed/CNC w/15mm Axle.
    (R) Giant Tracker Performance, 32H
    DT Swiss Competition Spokes 14/15G

    X2 ------ (F) Same as X1
    (R) Formula Sealed Bearing, 32H
    Yeah, saw that but can't come up with much about the Giant Tracker Performance hubs. Seems like multiple rebranded hubs are called that name based on the bike and year. It does seem to imply the X2 has a Formula rear hub. Not sure about the X1.

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    To people who changed handlebar. I was riding X2 in M, which was slightly to short, and L - more than slightly to long. Did you notice any differences after change handlebar for something different? Shorter or longer reach? Any information needed, please.

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    Go for a wider bar, if your trails aren't too tight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafalwspin View Post
    To people who changed handlebar. I was riding X2 in M, which was slightly to short, and L - more than slightly to long. Did you notice any differences after change handlebar for something different? Shorter or longer reach? Any information needed, please.
    Quote Originally Posted by Haggis View Post
    Go for a wider bar, if your trails aren't too tight...
    I think he is talking about the stem. I haven't seen the length specified anywhere for the stem lengths for each size, or the handlebar width.

    Edit: Found in thread

    Small = 70mm
    Medium = 90mm
    Large = 100mm

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    I can't change parts during testing. Medium was a little too small. But in medium if I change bar for narrower, I have to change stem for longer. I can't change seatpost for inline for example Reverb. If I change in Large bar for narrower, stem shorter and seatpost inline, will it be still good handling? I'm 5'11''

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafalwspin View Post
    I can't change parts during testing. Medium was a little too small. But in medium if I change bar for narrower, I have to change stem for longer. I can't change seatpost for inline for example Reverb. If I change in Large bar for narrower, stem shorter and seatpost inline, will it be still good handling? I'm 5'11''
    I've always seen advice to not change from one seatpost type to another on a frame that is designed for either or. It'll effectively change the geometry in small ways, but impact the feel in potentially larger ways. If you have the parts available, there is no harm in trying it, but i wouldn't purchase it without trying first.

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    At 5'11'' you should have chosed the Large maybe with a smaller stem, but a large would have fit you way better. Go get good fit on your bike it will help a lot. I'm not saying that out of nowhere I work in a giant retailer and it is really rare that someone gets out of our shop with Medium at 5 '11'' unless the custumer really wants it and he knows the bike is to small for him.

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    I'm 5'11", and after testing both sizes, picked the large. The medium might have worked OK for me, but the large just felt more right. I have the X0, and can't say enough great things about it - it rips!

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    Could someone measure stack and reach for medium and large Trance, please.
    How to measure (remember - in midlle top of head tube):
    Reach A-B, stack C-D
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    I feel your fitting pain. I'm more around 5'10", maybe slightly over. Either you get a large and use the extent of the adjust-ability on the low end, or a medium and use the upper end. My last bike was a large enduro sl, but experienced trouble in more technical trail getting my weight behind the seat. Both because I couldn't lower it enough and the longer reach. I do have shorter legs, around 30" inseam.

    I'm going with a medium this time around. I'm sure there will be times I'll feel a little cramped, but I think I'll also feel more comfortable in technical downhill and switchbacks.

    Looking back through the thread it looks like it is half and half on which size our height goes with.
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    With the new front derailleurs being mounted to the frame directly, is there a way to get the traditional clamp style ones to fit? I have an X0 front that I'd like to swap out and replace the x7 on the trance 1.

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    Wow awesome thread great info on the TX29!! havnt made it through half of it yet but have to share my great news! i rode mtn bikes in the late 80's early 90's then got away from riding. just got back on a bike 3 or 4yrs ago. currently on a Med 07 iron horse MKIII with 5" travel. Im 5'9" and demoed (black and red X1?) med TX29 and was completly blown away!!! Put the bike on lay away will pick it up in March if not sooner all depends on mother nature and snow pack i live in Utah and we usually have snow covering most of the good riding.

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    Requested the add to the reviews section, and just got the email that it's there: Giant Trance X 29er 0 29er Full Suspension Reviews

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    Well my wait is over 3 months since ordered just got my large x1 looks sweet pumped to ride it tomorrow.

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    All I can say is wow this bike is sick so fast tracks and rails through anything almost makes everything to easy the avid brakes are ok but make some noise. The lbs ran my dropper post cable on outside with zip ties ?and didn't cut it so first thing I did was route it internally and cut to apropropriate length pretty easy to do I ran it through the right side so I can now run the rear brake through the left side looks like it will be tight with the fitting on the line to get through I have to wait for my buddy that has a bleeder tool. I ride wheelies a lot and I noticed with the 29er it's much harder to turn when your on the rear wheel then with the 26 can still ride wheelies on it just noticeably harder to turn during. We have a drop off on the trail I rode about 4ft to flat it soaked it up very nicely a couple other small jumps felt really comfortable jumping it right away. Overall very pleased so far. Gona check over everything and get back out there. 🚵

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    got the final part today for my TX29er X1 that will be going onto it. Just havent got the TX29er yet, still on order

    oh and that part was a xx1 crankset

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    Is some play in the contact seat post front to back normal when fully extended? I didn't notice it at first but after 2 rides it feels I do

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymx410 View Post
    Is some play in the contact seat post front to back normal when fully extended? I didn't notice it at first but after 2 rides it feels I do
    The post or the saddle attached to the post? My saddle wobbles a little, even when properly torqued. It's pretty common with dropper posts in general. The post itself shouldn't, though.

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    Thanks it does seem like the post though cause when it's pushed all the way down I don't feel it. Gona check it out more and let ya know thanks

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    Anyone riddden a X2 as well as either a X1 or X0? I see the shock on the X2 (Rockshox) is tuned for a firmer compression than the Fox, I was wondering if there was much of a difference or is a Monarch M compression the same as a Fox CTD L compression?

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    lots of talk and not a lot of pics lately. Here's my throbbing clown wheeled sex machine. As to why it's a sex machine, well, it did manage to f*ck my bank account pretty good.




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    u need to get rid of the orange bits forcrissake

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    @Nicole....Yea, but wasn't it so worth it?

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    u need to get rid of the orange bits forcrissake
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    Is there anyone who is 250-260 lbs that rides one of these? i'm wondering if I will be able to have a firm suspension at my weight. I rode a reign and i had many pedal stikes and it seemed to move alot even with maximum pressure in the shock. I could never stand and pedal either even with propedal on max. Iighter riders rode my bike and it was fine. Will the trance be the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golddr2000 View Post
    Is there anyone who is 250-260 lbs that rides one of these? i'm wondering if I will be able to have a firm suspension at my weight. I rode a reign and i had many pedal stikes and it seemed to move alot even with maximum pressure in the shock. I could never stand and pedal either even with propedal on max. Iighter riders rode my bike and it was fine. Will the trance be the same?
    You might need some custom valve work done on the shock or an increase of boost valve pressure. Maestro leverage ratio is typically quite high which doesn't really suit heavier riders...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golddr2000 View Post
    Is there anyone who is 250-260 lbs that rides one of these? i'm wondering if I will be able to have a firm suspension at my weight. I rode a reign and i had many pedal stikes and it seemed to move alot even with maximum pressure in the shock. I could never stand and pedal either even with propedal on max. Iighter riders rode my bike and it was fine. Will the trance be the same?
    I have a medium X2 which you can only adjust the rebound on the shock. No lockout or anything else. I weigh 225 in my undies. I pump up to 270psi with the giant shock pump, and the manual says there is 5% loss when disconnecting, so this would put me at 256.5 psi after disconnect. I run 25% sag so if you want a cushier ride, you could gain a bit there with 30% sag plus the extra 18.5 psi in the shock. I do not notice any bob when pedaling while sitting. When standing pedaling, I control my rotations and do not notice much if any bob.
    This is with a RockShox so the fox probably performs different.
    Hopefully this helps a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p_cycle View Post
    u need to get rid of the orange bits forcrissake
    hell no! i'm one othe few rare people in the world that dislikes blue. especially light teal blue. ack, i think it's gross. The orange is a distraction to pull away from that hideous cheap looking blue Trance text.

    different strokes and folks or whatever.
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    since the subject of stroke was brought up, may I ask what is the stroke and eye to eye measurements of the shock?
    There seems to be zero official info on that.

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    Ride report:

    Took my new to me (used 2 months) Trance X1 29er out today on a nice 75 degree day in Alabama. The Monte Sano trails are extremely rocky, the opposite of flow, and my 2007 Spec Enduro SL didn't fit the trails or me very well. I'm 5'10.5" and the medium fits me perfectly. The stem was already flipped and I think I won't need to make any other adjustments.

    Good:
    Plushness and handling were surprisingly very similar to the Enduro. Felt a little less slack, but handled roots and rocks great. This is my first 29er and I didn't notice a huge difference in "flickability". Plowing down short rocky hills right into short rocky climbs I could tell I could maintain speed more easily. The biggest difference from the Enduro was the Trance X was much more stable climbing. I'm surprised at the comments about the front wheel lifting, but then again I was used to the Enduro.

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    Brakes are very noisy, and not that great. Already was expecting to replace them. The seat is pretty uncomfortable, with the seatpost needing to be very tight to avoid tilting. A new seat should be in next week for me. The lock on grips twisted a few times on me, so I'm going to make sure they are tight.

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    Seatstay meet log ...... log meet seatstay.

    $AU400 later I will be able to ride again soon ....... blleeeeeeaaaaaaahhh f$#@%ken mountain bikes ey!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pharcyde View Post


    Seatstay meet log ...... log meet seatstay.

    $AU400 later I will be able to ride again soon ....... blleeeeeeaaaaaaahhh f$#@%ken mountain bikes ey!
    Any Pics?

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    Does anyone know of a good bash gaurd for the x 1 the SRAM crankset I seen an earlier post about this but it was for the x0 shimano stuff. I'm not really sure what will fit on the 2 x10 without removing the big ring obviously

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    Any Pics?
    Yeah the big full colour one above your text is a picture!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharcyde View Post
    Yeah the big full colour one above your text is a picture!!!
    Not for non-members of Rotorburn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168 View Post
    Not for non-members of Rotorburn.
    Yep. After I logged into my Rotorburn account the image appeared here.

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    Has anyone had issues with the CTD settings on fox suspension? I cant tell any difference between the climb, trail and descend settings on my x1. Is there supposed to be a very noticeable difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig006 View Post
    Has anyone had issues with the CTD settings on fox suspension? I cant tell any difference between the climb, trail and descend settings on my x1. Is there supposed to be a very noticeable difference?
    I definitely notice the difference with mine. I rode a race in climb setting last week and it felt like I was on a hard tail. I find the descend setting too "bouncy" and usually leave it on trail. I did set pressure and rebound as per the recommendations from the Fox IRD mobile app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cozzal View Post
    I definitely notice the difference with mine. I rode a race in climb setting last week and it felt like I was on a hard tail. I find the descend setting too "bouncy" and usually leave it on trail. I did set pressure and rebound as per the recommendations from the Fox IRD mobile app.
    My LBS set the pressures and so on for me, so not sure what numbers they have used. But I doubt that they could have been so off, as to cause the settings to have absolutely no effect? do you think it could be incorrect pressures causing my issues?

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    Ride a bit - play with it - ride some more til you get to where you want. That's the best advice I can give. I set mine up normally at first, then tried the Fox IRD app and hated their settings.

    Measuring sag is a helpful start(I liked 25%), and customize from there. Start rebound at one end of the spectrum, then start at the other end, then in the middle, and go whichever way feels best from there.

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    A new ride for my new ride

    I just got a new rack for my bike. They look great together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyride1 View Post
    I just got a new rack for my bike. They look great together.
    What rack is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettevert View Post
    What rack is that?
    It is a 1up USA Quik-Rack. Easy on, easy off, all aluminum with SS hardware. No steel or plastic parts to rust or break over time. The rack only touches the tires, no contact with the frame at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyride1 View Post
    It is a 1up USA Quik-Rack. Easy on, easy off, all aluminum with SS hardware. No steel or plastic parts to rust or break over time. The rack only touches the tires, no contact with the frame at all.
    I've got a friend with one of those. Easily the coolest rack I've seen or used.

    I've had my bike now for about a month and have about 120 miles on it so far. About 50 of those miles were in the mountains of North Georgia on the kind of terrain the bike is truly intended. The rest were at my home trails in Pensacola, FL. A few observations:
    - This bike handles/corners noticeably better than my Anthem 29er. We have on loop here that's about 6 miles of fairly twisty, mostly flat singletrack. It seems like you are turning the whole time while on it and several sections are slalom-like back and forth turns. I smashed my fastest time on that loop by several minutes, even though the Trance is about 5 lbs heavier than the Anthem.
    - You probably aren't going to win any XC races on it . It feels like a heavy bike when ridden back-to-back with the Anthem. I know that statement is fairly obvious (and a bit tongue in cheek), but may be helpful for folks deciding between both bikes and thinking 20 mm of travel doesn't sound like a big difference. These two bikes are meant for two distinctly different types of riding.
    -The thing rips going downhill, though I'm not a fan of the "D" setting on the fork. It seemed pretty spongy and I felt like a lost a lot of feel in the front end. "T" on the front, "D" in the rear was okay but I preferred "T" front and rear. The "C" setting is nice touch on sustained climbs (as in, several mile long climbs). Flipping both levers constantly gets old fast, so I imagine that mine will stay in "T" most of the time. If you ride with a water bottle, the shock lever is a bit difficult to see or flip.

    Here's a list of upgrades that the bike has seen (Most came off a friend's bike; he made me a smokin' package deal):
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    Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.25" tires - kept the Nics and will switch back for rockier terrain, but the Ron's drop 0.75 lbs off the wheels and work fine for 90% of my riding.
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    How did you hide cable from Reverb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafalwspin View Post
    How did you hide cable from Reverb?
    The distributor that my LBS used sent the wrong model Reverb. I ordered the one with the left cable mount, but they sent the Reverb S(tealth?). The hydraulic cable connects through the bottom of the post, so it routes through the frame. It was a huge pain in the ass, but with an hour's tedious work I got it through. I do have concerns with the cable chaffing against the downtube/seattube/bottom bracket shell junction ( there's a pretty sharp edge in there), so we'll just have to see what happens long-term. So far, so good.

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    Another frame size question

    Hello,

    I took an X0 for a demo ride last week, loved it, and brought a X1 home yesterday. As I am a bit (a lot?) anal, I was checking it over this evening and am a little confused on the size I ended up with, as very few measurments match the Giant specs. I have a L, or so the sticker says, but the wheelbase and standover are closer to an XL.

    Could someone with a L, or access to one, please measure from centre of BB to top of seat tube at the clamp on the centerline of the tube and tell me what they get?

    Thanks for any replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig006 View Post
    Has anyone had issues with the CTD settings on fox suspension? I cant tell any difference between the climb, trail and descend settings on my x1. Is there supposed to be a very noticeable difference?
    A friend had the same problem with his CTD Talas fork, no difference between the settings. He had to ship it back to Fox for them to fix

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    5 rides on my x1 and I have been noticing a little oil leaking out of rear shock it's not much and I've been wiping it clean after each ride anyone have any issues or ya think this is normal. And guil I can measure my x1 large for ya in the morning and see how it compares I did notice my large came with a 90 mm handlebar stem while I heard the larges coming with a 100 luckily I'm happy with the 90.

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    bikensand, what's the bike weigh after all the upgrades? I'm still trying to decide if the 0 is worth the extra money over the 1.

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    28lb 13oz before changing the tires. Tires should bring it down pretty close to 28# if the Schwalbe published weights are anywhere near accurate. Had to give the scale back to my friend, so I don't have an actual measurement, post-tire replacement

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymx410 View Post
    5 rides on my x1 and I have been noticing a little oil leaking out of rear shock it's not much and I've been wiping it clean after each ride anyone have any issues or ya think this is normal.
    It's probably okay. A light film with some slight pooling at the lowest (longest travel) point is normal. If it's enough to actually bead and drip, you could have a seal problem.

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    Guil I measured my x1 large from center of bb to center of seat post clamp and depending on the angle it was between 19" and 19" 1/4. Thanks bikensand I will keep an eye on it seems to be puddling up a bit on the o ring then collecting some dirt lets hope it's not a seal. I also just weighed my stock large x1 with some temp wellgo flat and it was 30lb 12oz

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    Thanks Jaymx.

    Mine measures the same, and also has the 90 mm stem. Time to get it muddy!

    As for Giant's published dimensions it is almost as if they measure standover without tires, which does not make much sense.

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    Yeah enjoy I'm having fun on it and as far as the rear shock there was far less oil on the o ring just enough to attract a little dirt so I think it's normal everything else good I'm still trying to find what kind of bash gaurd fits on the SRAM. Also if they make different material brake pads for the avids I heard it stops the noise and gives it better modulating feel. That's my only complaint is the brakes I'm giving them time to see if they break in better only up to 50 miles so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guil View Post
    As for Giant's published dimensions it is almost as if they measure standover without tires, which does not make much sense.
    I agree. I have an X/L and the stand over is much higher then the spec published by Giant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymx410 View Post
    5 rides on my x1 and I have been noticing a little oil leaking out of rear shock it's not much and I've been wiping it clean after each ride anyone have any issues or ya think this is normal. And guil I can measure my x1 large for ya in the morning and see how it compares I did notice my large came with a 90 mm handlebar stem while I heard the larges coming with a 100 luckily I'm happy with the 90.
    Take the shock off the bike, unscrew the air canister and put about a teaspoon of Tenacious Oil in the cylinder. Should help the leaking issue and it lasts longer.
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    Thanks silentfoe I've never heard of that lube but researched it sounds good all around and will have to get some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168 View Post
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    Sorry NOOB mistake. all fixed now.


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    Here is a couple pictures of my X1 that I bought used with 2 months on it, and my second time out with it. This is at Monte Sano in North Alabama at a lookout. The trails here are pretty rocky, non flowy, and technical.

    My only work I have done on it so far are a lot of aligning of the Elixer 3's, rotors, and adding grease to the backside of the brake pads to successfully get the turkey garble to go away. Was quite a warning call to people up ahead I was imminent on my first ride. I plan to replace the brakes eventually with either Hayes Prime Experts (pricepoint), or Shimano SLX/XT's to get a bit more power. At that point I'll run the rear brake line through the frame.

    The giant saddle, with only 2 months of use on it was already looking pretty rough. It ages very poorly, and wasn't comfortable to begin with. I got a like new Selle Italia SLK gel with ti rails for $50 off ebay to replace it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothnic View Post
    Here is a couple pictures of my X1 that I bought used with 2 months on it, and my second time out with it. This is at Monte Sano in North Alabama at a lookout. The trails here are pretty rocky, non flowy, and technical.

    My only work I have done on it so far are a lot of aligning of the Elixer 3's, rotors, and adding grease to the backside of the brake pads to successfully get the turkey garble to go away. Was quite a warning call to people up ahead I was imminent on my first ride. I plan to replace the brakes eventually with either Hayes Prime Experts (pricepoint), or Shimano SLX/XT's to get a bit more power. At that point I'll run the rear brake line through the frame.

    The giant saddle, with only 2 months of use on it was already looking pretty rough. It ages very poorly, and wasn't comfortable to begin with. I got a like new Selle Italia SLK gel with ti rails for $50 off ebay to replace it.
    Thanks for the Pics. Looks like a beautiful area your riding. What pedals are you running? I'm looking to upgrade and I want to clip in, but have some platform.
    I agree about the saddle. Was my first change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    Thanks for the Pics. Looks like a beautiful area your riding. What pedals are you running? I'm looking to upgrade and I want to clip in, but have some platform.
    I agree about the saddle. Was my first change.
    Time ATAC Z pedals. I'm a fan of the type of clip in style, had crank brother's before on my road bike, but wanted something more tough for mountain biking. Pretty decent, enough of a platform to unclip one foot during hairy sections. Downside is they are fairly heavy.

    Time ATAC Z Pedals at Price Point

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothnic View Post
    Here is a couple pictures of my X1 that I bought used with 2 months on it, and my second time out with it. This is at Monte Sano in North Alabama at a lookout. The trails here are pretty rocky, non flowy, and technical.
    Funny! I looked at your pictures and thought, "Coldwater Mountain in Anniston?" Looks like I wasn't too far off. If you get a chance, take the Trance for a day-trip there. It'll put a smile on your face guaranteed!

    I raced Monte Sano this year and I think that might be the one XC race that the Trance would be better than the Anthem in. Half the course there is flat, flowing singetrack and the other half is several miles brutal rock garden. I can imagine that this bike just floats over all of it. Didn't get to do much exploring off the race course, but I've heard there's some pretty gnarly stuff out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikensand View Post
    Funny! I looked at your pictures and thought, "Coldwater Mountain in Anniston?" Looks like I wasn't too far off. If you get a chance, take the Trance for a day-trip there. It'll put a smile on your face guaranteed!

    I raced Monte Sano this year and I think that might be the one XC race that the Trance would be better than the Anthem in. Half the course there is flat, flowing singetrack and the other half is several miles brutal rock garden. I can imagine that this bike just floats over all of it. Didn't get to do much exploring off the race course, but I've heard there's some pretty gnarly stuff out there.
    Yeah, the Trance performs nearly as well as my 07 Enduro on the rough stuff, but climbs much better. There are some downhill rocky areas that I feel more confident with the Trance due to the better roll over combined with the decent amount of suspension travel. Moving too slow with the enduro could cause the front tire to want to get stuck in gaps between rocks.

    I'll have to check out Coldwater Mountain. Monte Sano has a plateau, so anything on it is pretty flat, which includes the one smooth flowing trail we have. Leave the plateau and it is baby head city, where most of the miles of trail are in the area. Can be fun, but is extrememly tiring.

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    Got my x1 last week and upgraded groupset and brakes to 1 x 10 with sram xx and xx1 (see pics thread)

    Plan was to setup bike as a trail "do it all" bike. I already have a XC bike

    My initial thoughts are:

    My size medium is a big bike, the small I trialled was too small. Though the bike is not as big as my medium AX29.

    The 90mm stem is a bit long, i will swap for a 70mm
    I was surprised at how easy the wheels setup as tubeless, much easier than my Stans wheelsets i had. That said the wheels are heavy.
    I dont care for the Fox CTD suspension, i will leave both ends set on D
    The handlebars are a bit too wide for my liking (720mm) i will trim 15mm each end off. The wide bars and long stem make for slow awkward steering

    I am not too happy about the offset on the dropper seatpost either.

    Will update with my ride thoughts after a bit more riding
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    sexy bike

    Why forego the XT cranks? What did you switch to?

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    wanted what i was used to, 3x10 and a bashgaurd (which i'm finding out i could have rigged something) it's a raceface turbine
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    Besides the orange pieces and the saddle, did you switch out anything else?

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    I found this is MBR, January issue. They tested X1. "More annoyingly, SRAM's Type-2 rear derailleur makes a loud clunking sound every time the suspension compresses, because the lower section of the chain tugs on the rear mech and causes the clutch to relese," No one mentioned this before. Can someone deflate shock and check, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
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    yes it is.

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    TBH I too am VERY confused as to why you would choose to give up, 2012 XT 2x10 clutch drivetrain, to go back to OLD tech Raceface 3x10. #stunned

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