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    Is there anyone who is 250-260 lbs that rides one of these? i'm wondering if I will be able to have a firm suspension at my weight. I rode a reign and i had many pedal stikes and it seemed to move alot even with maximum pressure in the shock. I could never stand and pedal either even with propedal on max. Iighter riders rode my bike and it was fine. Will the trance be the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golddr2000 View Post
    Is there anyone who is 250-260 lbs that rides one of these? i'm wondering if I will be able to have a firm suspension at my weight. I rode a reign and i had many pedal stikes and it seemed to move alot even with maximum pressure in the shock. I could never stand and pedal either even with propedal on max. Iighter riders rode my bike and it was fine. Will the trance be the same?
    You might need some custom valve work done on the shock or an increase of boost valve pressure. Maestro leverage ratio is typically quite high which doesn't really suit heavier riders...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golddr2000 View Post
    Is there anyone who is 250-260 lbs that rides one of these? i'm wondering if I will be able to have a firm suspension at my weight. I rode a reign and i had many pedal stikes and it seemed to move alot even with maximum pressure in the shock. I could never stand and pedal either even with propedal on max. Iighter riders rode my bike and it was fine. Will the trance be the same?
    I have a medium X2 which you can only adjust the rebound on the shock. No lockout or anything else. I weigh 225 in my undies. I pump up to 270psi with the giant shock pump, and the manual says there is 5% loss when disconnecting, so this would put me at 256.5 psi after disconnect. I run 25% sag so if you want a cushier ride, you could gain a bit there with 30% sag plus the extra 18.5 psi in the shock. I do not notice any bob when pedaling while sitting. When standing pedaling, I control my rotations and do not notice much if any bob.
    This is with a RockShox so the fox probably performs different.
    Hopefully this helps a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p_cycle View Post
    u need to get rid of the orange bits forcrissake
    hell no! i'm one othe few rare people in the world that dislikes blue. especially light teal blue. ack, i think it's gross. The orange is a distraction to pull away from that hideous cheap looking blue Trance text.

    different strokes and folks or whatever.
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    since the subject of stroke was brought up, may I ask what is the stroke and eye to eye measurements of the shock?
    There seems to be zero official info on that.

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    Ride report:

    Took my new to me (used 2 months) Trance X1 29er out today on a nice 75 degree day in Alabama. The Monte Sano trails are extremely rocky, the opposite of flow, and my 2007 Spec Enduro SL didn't fit the trails or me very well. I'm 5'10.5" and the medium fits me perfectly. The stem was already flipped and I think I won't need to make any other adjustments.

    Good:
    Plushness and handling were surprisingly very similar to the Enduro. Felt a little less slack, but handled roots and rocks great. This is my first 29er and I didn't notice a huge difference in "flickability". Plowing down short rocky hills right into short rocky climbs I could tell I could maintain speed more easily. The biggest difference from the Enduro was the Trance X was much more stable climbing. I'm surprised at the comments about the front wheel lifting, but then again I was used to the Enduro.

    Bad:
    Brakes are very noisy, and not that great. Already was expecting to replace them. The seat is pretty uncomfortable, with the seatpost needing to be very tight to avoid tilting. A new seat should be in next week for me. The lock on grips twisted a few times on me, so I'm going to make sure they are tight.

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    Seatstay meet log ...... log meet seatstay.

    $AU400 later I will be able to ride again soon ....... blleeeeeeaaaaaaahhh f$#@%ken mountain bikes ey!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pharcyde View Post


    Seatstay meet log ...... log meet seatstay.

    $AU400 later I will be able to ride again soon ....... blleeeeeeaaaaaaahhh f$#@%ken mountain bikes ey!
    Any Pics?

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    Does anyone know of a good bash gaurd for the x 1 the SRAM crankset I seen an earlier post about this but it was for the x0 shimano stuff. I'm not really sure what will fit on the 2 x10 without removing the big ring obviously

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    Any Pics?
    Yeah the big full colour one above your text is a picture!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharcyde View Post
    Yeah the big full colour one above your text is a picture!!!
    Not for non-members of Rotorburn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168 View Post
    Not for non-members of Rotorburn.
    Yep. After I logged into my Rotorburn account the image appeared here.

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    Has anyone had issues with the CTD settings on fox suspension? I cant tell any difference between the climb, trail and descend settings on my x1. Is there supposed to be a very noticeable difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig006 View Post
    Has anyone had issues with the CTD settings on fox suspension? I cant tell any difference between the climb, trail and descend settings on my x1. Is there supposed to be a very noticeable difference?
    I definitely notice the difference with mine. I rode a race in climb setting last week and it felt like I was on a hard tail. I find the descend setting too "bouncy" and usually leave it on trail. I did set pressure and rebound as per the recommendations from the Fox IRD mobile app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cozzal View Post
    I definitely notice the difference with mine. I rode a race in climb setting last week and it felt like I was on a hard tail. I find the descend setting too "bouncy" and usually leave it on trail. I did set pressure and rebound as per the recommendations from the Fox IRD mobile app.
    My LBS set the pressures and so on for me, so not sure what numbers they have used. But I doubt that they could have been so off, as to cause the settings to have absolutely no effect? do you think it could be incorrect pressures causing my issues?

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    Ride a bit - play with it - ride some more til you get to where you want. That's the best advice I can give. I set mine up normally at first, then tried the Fox IRD app and hated their settings.

    Measuring sag is a helpful start(I liked 25%), and customize from there. Start rebound at one end of the spectrum, then start at the other end, then in the middle, and go whichever way feels best from there.

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    A new ride for my new ride

    I just got a new rack for my bike. They look great together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyride1 View Post
    I just got a new rack for my bike. They look great together.
    What rack is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettevert View Post
    What rack is that?
    It is a 1up USA Quik-Rack. Easy on, easy off, all aluminum with SS hardware. No steel or plastic parts to rust or break over time. The rack only touches the tires, no contact with the frame at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyride1 View Post
    It is a 1up USA Quik-Rack. Easy on, easy off, all aluminum with SS hardware. No steel or plastic parts to rust or break over time. The rack only touches the tires, no contact with the frame at all.
    I've got a friend with one of those. Easily the coolest rack I've seen or used.

    I've had my bike now for about a month and have about 120 miles on it so far. About 50 of those miles were in the mountains of North Georgia on the kind of terrain the bike is truly intended. The rest were at my home trails in Pensacola, FL. A few observations:
    - This bike handles/corners noticeably better than my Anthem 29er. We have on loop here that's about 6 miles of fairly twisty, mostly flat singletrack. It seems like you are turning the whole time while on it and several sections are slalom-like back and forth turns. I smashed my fastest time on that loop by several minutes, even though the Trance is about 5 lbs heavier than the Anthem.
    - You probably aren't going to win any XC races on it . It feels like a heavy bike when ridden back-to-back with the Anthem. I know that statement is fairly obvious (and a bit tongue in cheek), but may be helpful for folks deciding between both bikes and thinking 20 mm of travel doesn't sound like a big difference. These two bikes are meant for two distinctly different types of riding.
    -The thing rips going downhill, though I'm not a fan of the "D" setting on the fork. It seemed pretty spongy and I felt like a lost a lot of feel in the front end. "T" on the front, "D" in the rear was okay but I preferred "T" front and rear. The "C" setting is nice touch on sustained climbs (as in, several mile long climbs). Flipping both levers constantly gets old fast, so I imagine that mine will stay in "T" most of the time. If you ride with a water bottle, the shock lever is a bit difficult to see or flip.

    Here's a list of upgrades that the bike has seen (Most came off a friend's bike; he made me a smokin' package deal):
    XO Crankset
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    Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.25" tires - kept the Nics and will switch back for rockier terrain, but the Ron's drop 0.75 lbs off the wheels and work fine for 90% of my riding.
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    How did you hide cable from Reverb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafalwspin View Post
    How did you hide cable from Reverb?
    The distributor that my LBS used sent the wrong model Reverb. I ordered the one with the left cable mount, but they sent the Reverb S(tealth?). The hydraulic cable connects through the bottom of the post, so it routes through the frame. It was a huge pain in the ass, but with an hour's tedious work I got it through. I do have concerns with the cable chaffing against the downtube/seattube/bottom bracket shell junction ( there's a pretty sharp edge in there), so we'll just have to see what happens long-term. So far, so good.

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    Another frame size question

    Hello,

    I took an X0 for a demo ride last week, loved it, and brought a X1 home yesterday. As I am a bit (a lot?) anal, I was checking it over this evening and am a little confused on the size I ended up with, as very few measurments match the Giant specs. I have a L, or so the sticker says, but the wheelbase and standover are closer to an XL.

    Could someone with a L, or access to one, please measure from centre of BB to top of seat tube at the clamp on the centerline of the tube and tell me what they get?

    Thanks for any replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig006 View Post
    Has anyone had issues with the CTD settings on fox suspension? I cant tell any difference between the climb, trail and descend settings on my x1. Is there supposed to be a very noticeable difference?
    A friend had the same problem with his CTD Talas fork, no difference between the settings. He had to ship it back to Fox for them to fix

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    5 rides on my x1 and I have been noticing a little oil leaking out of rear shock it's not much and I've been wiping it clean after each ride anyone have any issues or ya think this is normal. And guil I can measure my x1 large for ya in the morning and see how it compares I did notice my large came with a 90 mm handlebar stem while I heard the larges coming with a 100 luckily I'm happy with the 90.

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    bikensand, what's the bike weigh after all the upgrades? I'm still trying to decide if the 0 is worth the extra money over the 1.

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    28lb 13oz before changing the tires. Tires should bring it down pretty close to 28# if the Schwalbe published weights are anywhere near accurate. Had to give the scale back to my friend, so I don't have an actual measurement, post-tire replacement

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymx410 View Post
    5 rides on my x1 and I have been noticing a little oil leaking out of rear shock it's not much and I've been wiping it clean after each ride anyone have any issues or ya think this is normal.
    It's probably okay. A light film with some slight pooling at the lowest (longest travel) point is normal. If it's enough to actually bead and drip, you could have a seal problem.

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    Guil I measured my x1 large from center of bb to center of seat post clamp and depending on the angle it was between 19" and 19" 1/4. Thanks bikensand I will keep an eye on it seems to be puddling up a bit on the o ring then collecting some dirt lets hope it's not a seal. I also just weighed my stock large x1 with some temp wellgo flat and it was 30lb 12oz

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    Thanks Jaymx.

    Mine measures the same, and also has the 90 mm stem. Time to get it muddy!

    As for Giant's published dimensions it is almost as if they measure standover without tires, which does not make much sense.

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    Yeah enjoy I'm having fun on it and as far as the rear shock there was far less oil on the o ring just enough to attract a little dirt so I think it's normal everything else good I'm still trying to find what kind of bash gaurd fits on the SRAM. Also if they make different material brake pads for the avids I heard it stops the noise and gives it better modulating feel. That's my only complaint is the brakes I'm giving them time to see if they break in better only up to 50 miles so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guil View Post
    As for Giant's published dimensions it is almost as if they measure standover without tires, which does not make much sense.
    I agree. I have an X/L and the stand over is much higher then the spec published by Giant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymx410 View Post
    5 rides on my x1 and I have been noticing a little oil leaking out of rear shock it's not much and I've been wiping it clean after each ride anyone have any issues or ya think this is normal. And guil I can measure my x1 large for ya in the morning and see how it compares I did notice my large came with a 90 mm handlebar stem while I heard the larges coming with a 100 luckily I'm happy with the 90.
    Take the shock off the bike, unscrew the air canister and put about a teaspoon of Tenacious Oil in the cylinder. Should help the leaking issue and it lasts longer.
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    Thanks silentfoe I've never heard of that lube but researched it sounds good all around and will have to get some.

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    Sorry NOOB mistake. all fixed now.


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    Here is a couple pictures of my X1 that I bought used with 2 months on it, and my second time out with it. This is at Monte Sano in North Alabama at a lookout. The trails here are pretty rocky, non flowy, and technical.

    My only work I have done on it so far are a lot of aligning of the Elixer 3's, rotors, and adding grease to the backside of the brake pads to successfully get the turkey garble to go away. Was quite a warning call to people up ahead I was imminent on my first ride. I plan to replace the brakes eventually with either Hayes Prime Experts (pricepoint), or Shimano SLX/XT's to get a bit more power. At that point I'll run the rear brake line through the frame.

    The giant saddle, with only 2 months of use on it was already looking pretty rough. It ages very poorly, and wasn't comfortable to begin with. I got a like new Selle Italia SLK gel with ti rails for $50 off ebay to replace it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothnic View Post
    Here is a couple pictures of my X1 that I bought used with 2 months on it, and my second time out with it. This is at Monte Sano in North Alabama at a lookout. The trails here are pretty rocky, non flowy, and technical.

    My only work I have done on it so far are a lot of aligning of the Elixer 3's, rotors, and adding grease to the backside of the brake pads to successfully get the turkey garble to go away. Was quite a warning call to people up ahead I was imminent on my first ride. I plan to replace the brakes eventually with either Hayes Prime Experts (pricepoint), or Shimano SLX/XT's to get a bit more power. At that point I'll run the rear brake line through the frame.

    The giant saddle, with only 2 months of use on it was already looking pretty rough. It ages very poorly, and wasn't comfortable to begin with. I got a like new Selle Italia SLK gel with ti rails for $50 off ebay to replace it.
    Thanks for the Pics. Looks like a beautiful area your riding. What pedals are you running? I'm looking to upgrade and I want to clip in, but have some platform.
    I agree about the saddle. Was my first change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z4good View Post
    Thanks for the Pics. Looks like a beautiful area your riding. What pedals are you running? I'm looking to upgrade and I want to clip in, but have some platform.
    I agree about the saddle. Was my first change.
    Time ATAC Z pedals. I'm a fan of the type of clip in style, had crank brother's before on my road bike, but wanted something more tough for mountain biking. Pretty decent, enough of a platform to unclip one foot during hairy sections. Downside is they are fairly heavy.

    Time ATAC Z Pedals at Price Point

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothnic View Post
    Here is a couple pictures of my X1 that I bought used with 2 months on it, and my second time out with it. This is at Monte Sano in North Alabama at a lookout. The trails here are pretty rocky, non flowy, and technical.
    Funny! I looked at your pictures and thought, "Coldwater Mountain in Anniston?" Looks like I wasn't too far off. If you get a chance, take the Trance for a day-trip there. It'll put a smile on your face guaranteed!

    I raced Monte Sano this year and I think that might be the one XC race that the Trance would be better than the Anthem in. Half the course there is flat, flowing singetrack and the other half is several miles brutal rock garden. I can imagine that this bike just floats over all of it. Didn't get to do much exploring off the race course, but I've heard there's some pretty gnarly stuff out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikensand View Post
    Funny! I looked at your pictures and thought, "Coldwater Mountain in Anniston?" Looks like I wasn't too far off. If you get a chance, take the Trance for a day-trip there. It'll put a smile on your face guaranteed!

    I raced Monte Sano this year and I think that might be the one XC race that the Trance would be better than the Anthem in. Half the course there is flat, flowing singetrack and the other half is several miles brutal rock garden. I can imagine that this bike just floats over all of it. Didn't get to do much exploring off the race course, but I've heard there's some pretty gnarly stuff out there.
    Yeah, the Trance performs nearly as well as my 07 Enduro on the rough stuff, but climbs much better. There are some downhill rocky areas that I feel more confident with the Trance due to the better roll over combined with the decent amount of suspension travel. Moving too slow with the enduro could cause the front tire to want to get stuck in gaps between rocks.

    I'll have to check out Coldwater Mountain. Monte Sano has a plateau, so anything on it is pretty flat, which includes the one smooth flowing trail we have. Leave the plateau and it is baby head city, where most of the miles of trail are in the area. Can be fun, but is extrememly tiring.

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    Got my x1 last week and upgraded groupset and brakes to 1 x 10 with sram xx and xx1 (see pics thread)

    Plan was to setup bike as a trail "do it all" bike. I already have a XC bike

    My initial thoughts are:

    My size medium is a big bike, the small I trialled was too small. Though the bike is not as big as my medium AX29.

    The 90mm stem is a bit long, i will swap for a 70mm
    I was surprised at how easy the wheels setup as tubeless, much easier than my Stans wheelsets i had. That said the wheels are heavy.
    I dont care for the Fox CTD suspension, i will leave both ends set on D
    The handlebars are a bit too wide for my liking (720mm) i will trim 15mm each end off. The wide bars and long stem make for slow awkward steering

    I am not too happy about the offset on the dropper seatpost either.

    Will update with my ride thoughts after a bit more riding
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    sexy bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    sexy bike

    Why forego the XT cranks? What did you switch to?

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    wanted what i was used to, 3x10 and a bashgaurd (which i'm finding out i could have rigged something) it's a raceface turbine
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    Besides the orange pieces and the saddle, did you switch out anything else?

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    thats all!
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    I found this is MBR, January issue. They tested X1. "More annoyingly, SRAM's Type-2 rear derailleur makes a loud clunking sound every time the suspension compresses, because the lower section of the chain tugs on the rear mech and causes the clutch to relese," No one mentioned this before. Can someone deflate shock and check, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
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    yes it is.

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    TBH I too am VERY confused as to why you would choose to give up, 2012 XT 2x10 clutch drivetrain, to go back to OLD tech Raceface 3x10. #stunned

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