Talon owners .....

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  • 02-08-2012
    Richard_
    Talon owners .....
    post up , likes and dislikes , would you recomend one to a friend or family member ? any issues ? pics would be nice too
  • 02-08-2012
    cigarlover
    I love mine !!!! Kills the trails with no problems :D

  • 02-08-2012
    MysticKJ


    I like my Talon and have recommended it to others. I've upgraded the trigger shifters, cassette, pedals, seatpost, and changed to a 1x9...I'm going to purchase a new set of tires and a new saddle shortly...
  • 02-09-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    I would recommend it to anyone on a budget.

    Dislikes: fork, crankset, saddle, headset, seatpost and bar/stem combination.

    Likes: feel, frame, wheels, brakes.

    Have changed many of the dislikes since I got it and is my favorite ride, the only item pending is the headset.



    Future changes: ust tires, tubeless conversion kit.
  • 02-11-2012
    PeterMJ
    Great landscape! Of course bike also
  • 02-11-2012
    redvtwin2
    I thought it was a great bike. With a fork swap a fantastic bike. Not the lightest, but very durable.
  • 02-11-2012
    LazyRid3r
    1 Attachment(s)
    2012 Fox Shock
    Crank Brothers Seat Post
    SLX Crank
    SLX Shifters
    Giant Flat Bar
    Lizard Skin Grips
    Lizard Skin Chain Guard
    Continental MK Tires
    SLX Cassette
    SLX Chain
    SLX Derailleur
    Salsa Seat Clamp
  • 02-16-2012
    MattC555
    Great bike, terrible fork. Once that was replaced(Marz Micro Ti), I was in heaven.
  • 02-16-2012
    LazyRid3r
    I am telling you it's an awesome 29er for the price.
  • 02-17-2012
    Richard_
    any short riders ? im 5'5" , I really like the look of these , my LBS only has a L , and i need to try a small and medium , i tried out a Scott Scale small , and it had a good fit for me , but the Talon seems to run different in sizing , how is the goemetry for shorter riders ?
  • 02-19-2012
    delvermedic
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    I love my Talon 2. Price was just right for me as a beginner and the black/white/red color combination just looks sharp. Ive seen alot of people here complain about the stock fork but I think I am to new a rider to know that it's not good. Ive upgraded the stock seat and switched to flat pedals from the stock beartrap type. Only thing that has broken in the 4 months I have had it is a chain link that was a 6 buck fix at my lbs.
  • 02-20-2012
    whooda
    I have a talon 2010 talon 1. The front shock was terrible but replaced that with a marz bomber 44 micro ti. I could have been happy with it if I had never ridden a nice fork.
    I broke the chain after about 200 miles. The rear derailur kept coming loose, some locktite fixed that.

    Seat post kept coming loose and finally damaged the grooves that prevent it from moving. I replaced that with an easton ea70 from the classifieds and now its perfect!

    Fork 225
    chain 15
    seat post 35

    Oh, and all the reflectors broke off.
  • 02-21-2012
    dirtbyte
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Richard_ View Post
    post up , likes and dislikes , would you recomend one to a friend or family member ? any issues ? pics would be nice too

    I have had mine for 6 months now... I agree the fork is a little weak and I will probably end up upgrading it down the road. Replaced the stock pedals with Diety Decoy's and got some 5.10 Impact shoes (LOVE them). All the reflectors and dork disk "fell" off. Flipped the stem over to give it a more aggressive stance. Considering converting to tubeless using stans, but not sold on that idea yet.

    I ride it 2-3 times a week and it is holding up well. For the money (got it as a 2011 blowout when the 2012's were coming in) I would say it is a great bike, and I would recommend it for an entry - mid level rider.
  • 02-21-2012
    dirtbyte
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Richard_ View Post
    any short riders ? im 5'5" , I really like the look of these , my LBS only has a L , and i need to try a small and medium , i tried out a Scott Scale small , and it had a good fit for me , but the Talon seems to run different in sizing , how is the goemetry for shorter riders ?


    I am 5'6'' and I ride the small, and it fits me great. Been riding it 2-3 times a week for 6 months now.
  • 02-22-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Great shot there with the flag.
  • 02-22-2012
    dirtbyte
    When I was last out on a ride, I noticed a Ski Chalet tent setup and they had bikes out there to demo. They were all Diamond Back's. I thought, hey those are Walmart bikes, right. Well I took one of their top of the line bikes out for a spin... It was a FS (I have never ridden a FS bike before). One thing I noticed that worked considerably better than my beloved Talon, was how much better the brakes felt. It had Shimano Deore XT hydrolics. I noticed that my hands get really tired on long downhill runs on my Talon. So that got me to thinking, I wonder if I can adjust these Giant Root brakes. I noticed that just inside of the lever there is a little screw with a alen wrench adjustment. The LBS had mine adusted all the way out (I have small hands and that was a heck of a reach out to get to them. With a few turns of that screw I have them adjusted much closer to the bar and easier for my little hands (-- insert you joke here) to reach them with two fingers.

    I am looking forward to checking this out on my next ride! Just thought I would pass this along! Trying to post a picture here, but it looks like mtbr removed the attachment icon...
  • 02-22-2012
    dirtbyte
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    Here is the picture of me making the adjustment (with the 2mm alen wrench in the screw).
  • 02-22-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Those are little tricks of the trade we all learn in time.
  • 02-22-2012
    -bert-
    I dont know if this was discussed, but why wasnt the talon with 26inch wheels released in the US? The site only has it listed in australia.
  • 02-22-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Well i don't know of any Talon other than a 29er... Makes sense when you think about it. Do you know how many vehicles American Manufactures have over seas with different names we don't even know about? Tons!
  • 02-22-2012
    whooda
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    When I was last out on a ride, I noticed a Ski Chalet tent setup and they had bikes out there to demo. They were all Diamond Back's. I thought, hey those are Walmart bikes, right. Well I took one of their top of the line bikes out for a spin... It was a FS (I have never ridden a FS bike before). One thing I noticed that worked considerably better than my beloved Talon, was how much better the brakes felt. It had Shimano Deore XT hydrolics. I noticed that my hands get really tired on long downhill runs on my Talon. So that got me to thinking, I wonder if I can adjust these Giant Root brakes. I noticed that just inside of the lever there is a little screw with a alen wrench adjustment. The LBS had mine adusted all the way out (I have small hands and that was a heck of a reach out to get to them. With a few turns of that screw I have them adjusted much closer to the bar and easier for my little hands (-- insert you joke here) to reach them with two fingers.

    I am looking forward to checking this out on my next ride! Just thought I would pass this along! Trying to post a picture here, but it looks like mtbr removed the attachment icon...

    THANK YOU!!! I have been riding this bike for 6 months and was almost to the point of looking for replacement levers to make it more comfortable.

    It can use one finger now to use the brakes. Rep
  • 02-23-2012
    dirtbyte
    Awesome! That is EXACTLY the situation I was in and figured I would share it here in hopes of it helping someone else! Sometimes it is just the little things :)
  • 02-23-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    There's a 26 inch version of the Talon, plenty of them on eBay but they're from overseas.

    Dennis, all brake levers have some kind of reach adjustment, usually a small allen bolt on the lever.
  • 02-23-2012
    dirtbyte
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    There's a 26 inch version of the Talon, plenty of them on eBay but they're from overseas.

    Dennis, all brake levers have some kind of reach adjustment, usually a small allen bolt on the lever.

    Yeah, that is what I had figured, but on these it just was not as obvious as some of the others out there. I am looking to upgrade my fork next, I have noticed a lot of others have done the same, Usually when I search for the ones people have upgraded to here I can not find them any more.

    Can someone provide a link to one in the 300-450 range that will fit a 2011 Talon 29er?

    Thanks!
  • 02-23-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    Can someone provide a link to one in the 300-450 range that will fit a 2011 Talon 29er?

    Try to find the Marzocchi 44 Micro Ti on Chainlove, seems to be favored by many on the 29er forum. I got a 44 TST 2, had some minor issues with it but for less than $300 can't complain much. After tweaking with the air preload and rebound is almost where I want it.

    Another alternative is the Suntour Epicon, have seen on the 29er forum several discussions about it and could be on the higher end of your budget.

    If you can change the front axle to 9mm you can find many Reba's at your price range but that will mean a front hub change or if you're lucky some kind of qr15 to qr9 adapter.
  • 02-23-2012
    dirtbyte
    Thanks for the help! I was trying to avoid the qr9mm adapter / hub switch out (really like the 15mm thru axle concept.

    Also, I am new to chain love, is it really just one item at a time, or can you browse for items?
  • 02-23-2012
    MattC555
    Marzocchi 44 Micro Ti is awesome, especially for the price that they were offered for. However, I think both chainlove and hucknroll are sold out.

    Chainlove is one item at a time, and is linked to hucknroll. They may have the same owners???
  • 02-23-2012
    dirtbyte
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MattC555 View Post
    Marzocchi 44 Micro Ti is awesome, especially for the price that they were offered for. However, I think both and are sold out.

    is one item at a time, and is linked to . They may have the same owners???

    Thanks, I will see if I can hunt one down. This stock fork is driving me nuts.
  • 02-24-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    Thanks, I will see if I can hunt one down. This stock fork is driving me nuts.

    Bikerbob has Fox Forks for reasonable prices. That's were I picked up mine.
  • 02-24-2012
    dirtbyte
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LazyRid3r View Post
    Bikerbob has Fox Forks for reasonable prices. That's were I picked up mine.

    Thanks, I only see one listed there now for $500. It is not really clear if it is 29er and also, it says it has a tapered tube, and I am assuming I need a non tapered version, is that correct?
  • 02-24-2012
    whooda
    correct. The talon 29er does not have a tapered head tube. the 2010 does not and the 2011 is the same frame.
  • 02-25-2012
    dirtbyte
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by whooda View Post
    correct. The talon 29er does not have a tapered head tube. the 2010 does not and the 2011 is the same frame.

    Thanks for the confirmation (I have 2011). I am on the hunt for one that meets my specs, wish me luck!
  • 02-26-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    You could use the Cane Creek adapter and run a tapered fork.
  • 03-05-2012
    druethe
    Anyone know why the 2010 had lockout forks, but the 2012 does not?
  • 03-05-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by druethe View Post
    Anyone know why the 2010 had lockout forks, but the 2012 does not?

    Cost savings?
  • 03-05-2012
    druethe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Cost savings?

    Is that the only possibility? If so, that is kinda lame. Any other benefit of getting rid of lockout forks? Weight reduction maybe?
  • 03-05-2012
    dirtbyte
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by druethe View Post
    Is that the only possibility? If so, that is kinda lame. Any other benefit of getting rid of lockout forks? Weight reduction maybe?

    I have the 2011 version (SR Suntour 100 with lockout) and I would trade it any day for the rock shox without lockout. My guess is that a lot of people complained about the suntour fork, so they "upgraded" to rock shox, but to keep the bike at the right price point (for the other components/etc on this bike) they had to go with a low end rock shox without lockout.

    Good move on their part IMO.

    Honestly, I think a fully rigid fork would be an upgrade from the one that came on the 2011.
  • 03-05-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by druethe View Post
    Is that the only possibility? If so, that is kinda lame. Any other benefit of getting rid of lockout forks? Weight reduction maybe?

    I would assume the issues with the weight were a factor as well.
  • 03-05-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    I have the 2011 version (SR Suntour 100 with lockout) and I would trade it any day for the rock shox without lockout. My guess is that a lot of people complained about the suntour fork, so they "upgraded" to rock shox, but to keep the bike at the right price point (for the other components/etc on this bike) they had to go with a low end rock shox without lockout.

    Good move on their part IMO.

    Honestly, I think a fully rigid fork would be an upgrade from the one that came on the 2011.

    Part of the reason i made the swtich to the fox, is because that 2011 Suntour really just felt like a pogo stick all the time.
  • 03-05-2012
    Richard_
    is the lock out feature the big of a deal ?
  • 03-05-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Richard_ View Post
    is the lock out feature the big of a deal ?

    It all depends my friend... It's like republicans and democrats it's a matter of taste.
  • 03-05-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Richard_ View Post
    is the lock out feature the big of a deal ?

    In over 12 years of riding have never used the lockout feature on a fork or shock so for me is not a big deal or a deal breaker.
  • 03-05-2012
    whooda
    Just get a new fork. The marz 44 has a knob with different levels of dampener (all the way to full lock) and a valve to adjust it. I never fully lock it out, but before I hit a big drop I kick it up a notch or two and it becomes much stiffer so it does not bottom out on me.

    Get a new fork! You wont regret it.
  • 03-06-2012
    dirtbyte
    Cleaned up the 2011 Talon 29er 1 today and it looks like I am due for some new brake pads on the front disc (I will probably do front and rear). Any recommendations on replacement pads?

    Edit: Never mind, I just found this thread: http://forums.mtbr.com/giant/where-f...ds-720913.html
  • 03-07-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Use Shimano Deore M515 pads or compatible.
  • 03-08-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Use Shimano Deore M515 pads or compatible.

    Agreed!
  • 03-14-2012
    bsakaki
    I test rode the Talon 2 in XL , and actually liked it better than the Cannondale Trail SL 4 (in large), Kona Kahuna (large), and Specialized Camber.

    My biggest gripe is the fork. Is the worth getting the Talon 1 or 0 or just getting the Talon 2 and upgrading the fork.

    I honestly didnt find the hydraulic disc brakes THAT amazing, and would prefer something lower maintenance at first.
  • 03-14-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bsakaki View Post
    I test rode the Talon 2 in XL , and actually liked it better than the Cannondale Trail SL 4 (in large), Kona Kahuna (large), and Specialized Camber.

    My biggest gripe is the fork. Is the worth getting the Talon 1 or 0 or just getting the Talon 2 and upgrading the fork.

    I honestly didnt find the hydraulic disc brakes THAT amazing, and would prefer something lower maintenance at first.

    The RS fork is a bit better, I would go with the 2, save some money and swap the fork with a Zocchi 44 Micro Ti, Fox or Suntour Epicon.

    The mechanicals aren't that great, that's another upgrade worthy part.
  • 03-16-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    The RS fork is a bit better, I would go with the 2, save some money and swap the fork with a Zocchi 44 Micro Ti, Fox or Suntour Epicon.

    The mechanicals aren't that great, that's another upgrade worthy part.

    I don't know I am usually with Dirt, but I rather get the 1 or the 0... Remember your not only upgrading the fork but the rest of the bike. In addition, if I am not mistaken the Talon2 is a 8 speed. You get an extra gear with the others as the 1 and 0 are 9 speeds.
    Just my 0.02
  • 03-19-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LazyRid3r View Post
    I don't know I am usually with Dirt, but I rather get the 1 or the 0... Remember your not only upgrading the fork but the rest of the bike. In addition, if I am not mistaken the Talon2 is a 8 speed. You get an extra gear with the others as the 1 and 0 are 9 speeds.
    Just my 0.02

    His issue is with funds and that's the only reason why the 2 IMO is the best option. If he could pony up some extra dollars the 0 or 1 will be the choice for sure.

    Knowing how this usually ends up, he'll get the 2, upgradeditis will kick in and will end up spending a lot more. Upgradeditis is a disease that most of us have and is very hard to contain, it has no cure.
  • 03-19-2012
    LazyRid3r
    lol agreed!
  • 03-26-2012
    TheBSly
    I'm an MTB Noob and I have no idea whatsoever on how to know which fork configuration to get. As far as the fitment. Steerer, taper, axle, etc. I just bought the 2012 Talon 2 and I know the first thing I want to do is replace the fork with a lockout at as cheap a price as possible. Preferably a RockShox. If anyone could tell me what to look for or model number I would appreciate it.
  • 03-29-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Just for kicks... Why RockShox ?
  • 03-29-2012
    TheBSly
    Because in the under $200 range with the lockout and blowoff I'm looking at either RockShox or Suntour. From what I've read, the RockShox is way better. I'm looking at the XC32 TK 29er.

    sram.com/rockshox/products/xc-32-tk-29#/path/term-id/455
  • 03-29-2012
    TheBSly
    blueskycycling.com/product6443_39_-Rock-Shox-XC-32-TK-29er-Coil-Fork.htm
  • 03-31-2012
    LazyRid3r
    I would save the money and go with the Fox... Just my 0.2 cents.
  • 04-02-2012
    JAY55
    I'm also looking to get the fox fork for my 2011 Talon 1 29er. Kind of confused which model/size to get so it will fit, please suggest. Thanks!
  • 04-03-2012
    p08757
    I just got mine a few weeks ago. I've been using it as my commuter bike, and have already put about 200 miles on it. At the moment the fork has not bothered me that much, but ride with it locked out most of the time right now. I have slicks on order, and should have them installed by the end of the week.

    This bike beats my last ride a late 80's / early 90's GT 26er.
  • 04-03-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JAY55 View Post
    I'm also looking to get the fox fork for my 2011 Talon 1 29er. Kind of confused which model/size to get so it will fit, please suggest. Thanks!

    Non tapered steerer, 100mm travel if you want to leave everything else intact. If you want you can go with a Cane Creek XX and use a tapered fork but the travel should remain at 100mm.
  • 04-03-2012
    JAY55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Non tapered steerer, 100mm travel if you want to leave everything else intact. If you want you can go with a Cane Creek XX and use a tapered fork but the travel should remain at 100mm.

    Thanks, off to Classifieds section.
  • 04-03-2012
    LazyRid3r
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JAY55 View Post
    Thanks, off to Classifieds section.

    Look at the picture of my bike. That's what the fork will look like without the Cane Creek piece.
  • 04-03-2012
    JAY55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LazyRid3r View Post
    Look at the picture of my bike. That's what the fork will look like without the Cane Creek piece.

    Just saw it is that 2012 fox fork? looks awesome.
  • 04-12-2012
    dirtbyte
    Looks like I am stuck with the stock fork on my 2011 Talon 1 for awhile due to $$$ constraints. It is starting to squeak a bit and I am not able to find any information online about how to maintain it (I do most if not all the maintenance on my bike).

    Has anyone taken this thing apart? It is the SR Suntour Raidon LTD.

    Any advice on what maintenance I can do to get another year or so out of it would be greatly appreciated.
  • 04-12-2012
    p08757
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    Looks like I am stuck with the stock fork on my 2011 Talon 1 for awhile due to $$$ constraints. It is starting to squeak a bit and I am not able to find any information online about how to maintain it (I do most if not all the maintenance on my bike).

    Has anyone taken this thing apart? It is the SR Suntour Raidon LTD.

    Any advice on what maintenance I can do to get another year or so out of it would be greatly appreciated.

    I've only taken apart the 15mm Thru axel housing, but you already know that. :thumbsup:

    I wish Giant would provide some decient documentation on their one-off parts. I know the fork was not made by them, but rather made for them and this bike. If you find a link to any decent information please share with everyone. Thanks!
  • 04-12-2012
    dirtbyte
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by p08757 View Post
    I've only taken apart the 15mm Thru axel housing, but you already know that. :thumbsup:

    I wish Giant would provide some decient documentation on their one-off parts. I know the fork was not made by them, but rather made for them and this bike. If you find a link to any decent information please share with everyone. Thanks!

    I just sent an email to Suntour asking for some more information. Wish me luck!
  • 04-12-2012
    p08757
    I went to the Suntour Cycling web site. The latest Workshopbook they have is for 2010. You may try contacting someone at their web site (SR SUNTOUR Cycling) and see when they will publilsh the 2011 workshopbook.

    Here are a bunch of Tec Videos: SR SUNTOUR Cycling.

    Good Luck and let us know if you find anything usefull.
  • 04-25-2012
    p08757
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    I just sent an email to Suntour asking for some more information. Wish me luck!

    Did you ever find any formal information from Suntour?
  • 04-25-2012
    dirtbyte
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by p08757 View Post
    Did you ever find any formal information from Suntour?

    Yes I did get a response, and it was not all that helpfull... Here is the reply:

    "Hi Dennis,

    It the fork is starting to squeak a bit I would recommend 2 things. Remove the lower casting and relube the bushing’s with a light weight grease. Also because the fork uses a coil spring it is important for it to be liberally greased to reduce rubbing on the inner wall of the stanchion.

    Best regards,

    Nick Hannah-Moore
    Service and Warranty
    SR Suntour North America, Inc.
    14511 NE 10th Avenue, UNIT E
    Vancouver, WA 98685"
  • 04-26-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Nick provides good customer service but the product is so bad that when it starts to give trouble you're better off replacing it.

    Tried to sell my Radion and ended up giving it away; no body wanted to pay for it.
  • 04-28-2012
    whooda
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Nick provides good customer service but the product is so bad that when it starts to give trouble you're better off replacing it.

    Tried to sell my Radion and ended up giving it away; no body wanted to pay for it.

    Im in the same boat. Mine is sitting in the shed collecting rust.
  • 05-04-2012
    Joshua75W
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    I bought a Giant Talon 1 this week, and took it riding yesterday. I cut my time in half with this bike. I love it. Can't wait to get back out there tomorrow and do a little "more" :)
  • 05-04-2012
    MattC555
    Congrats on the purchase. I'm still loving mine.
  • 05-05-2012
    Ranger Mac
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joshua75W View Post
    I bought a Giant Talon 1 this week, and took it riding yesterday. I cut my time in half with this bike. I love it. Can't wait to get back out there tomorrow and do a little "more" :)


    Need more pics of this bike please. What did you upgrade from? Any short comings on the 1 so far?

    How well does the fork lock out?

    I have one ordered but havent ridden it. None on Oahu. I have ridden the talon 2 and love it but wanted the few upgrades on the talon 1.
  • 05-06-2012
    Joshua75W
    I don't have a way of posting pictures right now.(using my iPad)

    I was using just a cheap department store bike while saving up for the talon. It is a humongous difference though. Lol

    The fork lock out seems to do well. I haven't used much of it though. I still have a lot of experimenting to do with the bike.

    I'm headed out tomorrow to ride 20 miles. I'm excited to push this bike harder and see what it can do.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ranger Mac View Post
    Need more pics of this bike please. What did you upgrade from? Any short comings on the 1 so far?

    How well does the fork lock out?

    I have one ordered but havent ridden it. None on Oahu. I have ridden the talon 2 and love it but wanted the few upgrades on the talon 1.

  • 05-08-2012
    bosbik
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Non tapered steerer, 100mm travel if you want to leave everything else intact. If you want you can go with a Cane Creek XX and use a tapered fork but the travel should remain at 100mm.

    hmmm..so the cane creek XX will fit into the talon's headtube..so i assume its an internal headset..has anybody used this and are there any issues?
    does any other brand have this type of headset?
  • 05-08-2012
    Ranger Mac
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joshua75W View Post
    I don't have a way of posting pictures right now.(using my iPad)

    I was using just a cheap department store bike while saving up for the talon. It is a humongous difference though. Lol

    The fork lock out seems to do well. I haven't used much of it though. I still have a lot of experimenting to do with the bike.

    I'm headed out tomorrow to ride 20 miles. I'm excited to push this bike harder and see what it can do.

    Thanks. I would love to see some more pics. Not a lot out there of the 2012 Talon 1. how he 20 miler go?
  • 05-13-2012
    cigarlover
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ranger Mac View Post
    Thanks. I would love to see some more pics. Not a lot out there of the 2012 Talon 1. how he 20 miler go?












    Loving it more and more!!!! every time I'm out on it :thumbsup:
  • 05-14-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    My kid loves it



  • 05-14-2012
    MattC555
    Two questions:

    1. What tools do I need to remove the cranks and BB from a '11 Talon 1?

    2. Has anybody weighed the stock 2011 wheelset?
  • 05-14-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    To remove the cranks follow this.

    No idea on the weight of the wheels.
  • 05-14-2012
    MattC555
    Thanks DiRt DeViL!
  • 05-15-2012
    Ranger Mac
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MattC555 View Post
    Two questions:

    1. What tools do I need to remove the cranks and BB from a '11 Talon 1?

    2. Has anybody weighed the stock 2011 wheelset?



    If you go to the giant section they have a thread on the s- and p- 29er series wheels. Few weights listed with and with out skewers and cassettes. Take a look.
  • 05-15-2012
    heypal99
    I also ride a 2011 Talon 1 and love it. I too would like to upgrade the fork, but not looking to spend $700 to do so. My LBS reccomended the Marzocchi 44 TST2. Would this be a nice upgrade from the stock fork??

    Thanks,
    Pal
  • 05-15-2012
    jjarrett79
    I rented a 2012 Talon 0 the other day. I thought it was awesome. First time ever on a 29er so I don't have much to
    Compare it to... I just know that it climbed waaaaay better than my 26" revel, handled better in the turns and just seemed more stable and fast.
    Two things I didn't like we're I kept hitting the shifter with my thumb knuckle and changing gears... This happened like 10 times in one ride and has never happened to me before. Also, my pedals kept hitting the ground, do there was some sort of clearance issue. Otherwise I absolutely loved the bike.
  • 05-15-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by heypal99 View Post
    I also ride a 2011 Talon 1 and love it. I too would like to upgrade the fork, but not looking to spend $700 to do so. My LBS reccomended the Marzocchi 44 TST2. Would this be a nice upgrade from the stock fork??

    Thanks,
    Pal

    It is a good upgrade, nice will be a Fox.
  • 05-30-2012
    AnotherTimbo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LazyRid3r View Post
    Well i don't know of any Talon other than a 29er... Makes sense when you think about it. Do you know how many vehicles American Manufactures have over seas with different names we don't even know about? Tons!

    Here's a link to the Talon that was released in Australia in 2009 - 26".
    www2(dot)giant-bicycles(dot)com/en-au/bikes/mountain/2177/31857/?collections_id=4]Giant Bicycles Archive
    (sorry can't post links - Newby. You'll have to replace the (dot) with . )

    The current Talon in Aust. is the same frame shape as the ones posted above.

    The 2009 26" is my ride - i'll post a pic when i find one. The only change i've made is putting on Maxxis Crossfire tyres.

    I note that the price has dropped significantly since i purchased - maybe downed the quality of the components in the later models...???

    Cheers Tim
  • 05-30-2012
    heypal99
    Stem upgrade?
    Guys, have any of you swapped the stem out for a shorter unit? How did it effect the handling?
  • 05-31-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    I kept the same length but with a lesser degree of rise, huge change IMO.

    Shorter stem = quicker, snappy steering
    Longer stem = slower, more controlled steering

    Is a very similar feeling to when you put longer bars.
  • 05-31-2012
    lolex
    Wheelset weighted around 2200grams with skewers..not really on the light side but durable. The Talon frame is made from Aluxx SL grade alloy..so its stiff and light like the XTC but I do not know the weight of the frame.Anyone?
  • 06-02-2012
    Joes Rocket
    I'm sorry to repeat a question, however I have found 2 different answers regarding the fork on my 2011 Talon 1 29er. I have heard its a tapered steer tube, and I have also heard its a straight 1 1/8 tube. I know I need a 15mm through axle and 29er size, but which head tube do I need. And are there others I can use with some simple adapters? Sorry for the questions, although I know a lot, I still am a newb compared to the others on this board.
  • 06-02-2012
    whooda
    my 2010 talon 1 is a 1 1/8th straight.

    However, you can get headsets that can make any of them work on any bike. If your head tube is tapered they make a headset that will use a spacer or shim on the bottom to make a 1 1/8 straight fit.
    if you have a tapered fork in a straight head tube they make a headset that puts the bearings on the outside of the head tube giving more room for the tapered steerer.
    New Headset Allows Use Of Tapered Steerers In Some 1-1/8in Head Tubes - BikeRadar

    so if you get a good deal you can get whatever you want
  • 06-02-2012
    Joes Rocket
    Thanks, if I look at a used fork, how long does the tube have to be (minimum with the stock setup)
  • 06-04-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joes Rocket View Post
    Thanks, if I look at a used fork, how long does the tube have to be (minimum with the stock setup)

    Depends on the size frame, specially the head tube; measure your current fork and get something similar.
  • 06-04-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joes Rocket View Post
    I'm sorry to repeat a question, however I have found 2 different answers regarding the fork on my 2011 Talon 1 29er. I have heard its a tapered steer tube, and I have also heard its a straight 1 1/8 tube. I know I need a 15mm through axle and 29er size, but which head tube do I need. And are there others I can use with some simple adapters? Sorry for the questions, although I know a lot, I still am a newb compared to the others on this board.

    2011 Talon is not tapered, is a straight 1 1/8 headtube.
  • 06-05-2012
    cams-76
    anyone know anything about the talon2 for 2013 or whatever they might be putting out like it right around the same price? i am thinking of buying a talon 2 2012 but i dont want the 13 to come out in two weeks with something better.
  • 06-06-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Believe that the new models usually become available late summer or early fall.
  • 06-22-2012
    heypal99
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    It is a good upgrade, nice will be a Fox.

    I pulled the trigger on the TST2! No word yet from my bike shop that it has arrived. Can't wait!
  • 06-23-2012
    islaw
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    Thanks to every talon rider. For all info. about are bike, From cc XX-44mm lower headset up to fork upgrade.You guy's educated me a lot. Thanks again
  • 06-25-2012
    Hosway
    Ok , this feels like its going to be a noob question but in order to use some of the forks suggested on this thread will i have to purchase another wheel? My LBS said since the front wheel set on my Talon 2 (2012) model is a QR than I would have to purchase a wheel with a through axle in order to use certain forks such as the Micro TI.
  • 06-26-2012
    DiRt DeViL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hosway View Post
    Ok , this feels like its going to be a noob question but in order to use some of the forks suggested on this thread will i have to purchase another wheel? My LBS said since the front wheel set on my Talon 2 (2012) model is a QR than I would have to purchase a wheel with a through axle in order to use certain forks such as the Micro TI.

    Plenty of topics about the Talon and fork options, the quick answer is that you need a QR15 non tapered 1 1/8" fork if you want to stay away from changing wheels, hubs or using adapters.

    If the fork you want is QR9 then you'll need to find some kind of adapter to convert the hub from 15mm to 9mm, replace the hub or the whole wheel.

    If the fork you want is tapered you'll need to get the Cane Creek XX (44 I believe) in order to do so.

    There are several (but not many) non tapered qr15 forks out there, the Zocchi 44TST and Micro Ti, Fox F29RL and Suntour Epicon quickly come to mind.