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    Quote Originally Posted by fishwrinkle View Post
    oh once you upgrade that fork you will ask yourself why in the hell you waited so long..
    This was my experience! IMO, it should be the FIRST thing you throw money at with this bike.

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    Hey guys,

    I own a '13 Talon 1 and I'm looking to upgrade the tires.

    Does anyone know what the max size tire I can fit on those stock rims? I went on Giant's site and didn't get much info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richgsr View Post
    Does anyone know what the max size tire I can fit on those stock rims?
    I would say that you are not limited by the rims. You are only limited by how much clearance you have in regards to the frame. I am running 2.2's (Geax Saguaro) with no issues. Also, I have found that different brands have different width's so you really don't know until you have them mounted up.

    I still have room to spare with the 2.2's on mine (2011 Talon 1). I would think I could go up to 2.4, but why? If you are looking for more traction, I would recommend going tubeless and running lower pressure with what you have.

    I converted the stock wheels and tires to tubeless with no issues. Just wrapped the inside of the rim with Gorilla tape, put in a stans presta valve stem, put in some stans sealant, and inflated with an air compressor (there are lots of posts with more details on this site). I run around 25 PSI and noticed a HUGE improvement.

    Links about going tubeless (I recommend doing it)

    Gorilla tape ghetto tubeless works great.

    Giant SXC29-2 converting to tubeless

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    Thank you for the info, Dennis.

    I am looking for a bit more traction and I find the stock tires slip and slide quite a bit on descents.

    I'm definitely looking to go tubeless, but I think i'd rather do it on new tires as my stock ones have had numerous punctures already.

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    those RR's that came with yours looks like they would handle way better than the sm blk 8's that came on the '12. drop your chain into 1x1 and make a guess off the chain line. i have pana rampage 2.35 on a 2012 T1. i prefer 2.2 on rear and a lil different tread but they rock with low psi in the snow

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    The Cross Mark and Small Block tires work well for hard pack, so so on loose stuff and awful on mud or snow but having said that we are still using them until is time to replace them.

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    I finally got my Tower Pro installed along with my new wheels and tires. I ended up going with Sun Ringle Charger Comps. I haven't been able to ride it yet but I think it sure does look good! Thanks to those that helped me a while back!


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    Talon owners .....-my-giant-talon.jpg

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    Few upgrades ...

    Shimano SLX: Crank, Shifters,Chain,Derailleur.
    Fox Fork, Giant flat bar, Cobalt seat post, Mountain King Tires

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    Good job!

    I can't stand to see my beloved Talon thread die, so here is an updated picture of mine...

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    Recent Updates to my 2011 Talon 29er:

    1) Cranks updated to SLX
    2) Selle Italia Q-BiK Flow Saddle https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Produc...mmaryOnly=true
    - Picked this up at Nashbar, great deal on the seat and I love it. Plus you have to like how it looks like it was made just for this bike

    This bike is holding up great! Currently shopping around for a full susser because my riding has been venturing into more of the all mountain range, and my body is taking a beating on this hard tail, but this bike is taking the beating I am giving it and laughing at me saying "is that all ya got?" What a great bike, and a great sport we enjoy!

    Now post up some more pictures of your talons! I am down for at least another week due to surgery and I need the stoke (which is why it is so clean)!

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    Looks great! In fact, I believe you are running the same bash guard as me. Staightline? Did your crank set upgrade improve the perfomance of the bike or is it simply for weight purposes? I was thinking that it would be my next upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heypal99 View Post
    Looks great! In fact, I believe you are running the same bash guard as me. Staightline? Did your crank set upgrade improve the perfomance of the bike or is it simply for weight purposes? I was thinking that it would be my next upgrade.
    Actually it is a BBG bash guard... I actually upgraded the cranks because the bottom bracket developed a knocking when under load. I suppose I could have just replaced the bottom bracket, but I got a good deal on the crankset, so I figured why not. It did shave around 1 pound (!!!) off the bike. Not sure I could really say it improved the performance much, it does seem a tad bit stiffer (and looks better), but did not really notice much of a difference in shifting, etc. Plus the whole hollowtech thing is just plain cool.

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    Talon 2 is a great bike

    I was able to pick up a Talon 2 at the Giant World bike store in Denver for $430 since they were moving out the 12s to make room for 13s. I tossed the suntour immediately and ended up with an X-fusion Slide that I found on e-bay new for $250. I was considering the Tower Pro and the Reba, but I felt that my budget was more in-line with the X-fusion, which has gotten good reviews. The mechanic at the Giant store highly recommended the fork and said that he was riding one and felt it compared in feel and quality to the Fox Float. Lord knows it shaved 2lbs off the front of the bike. I also flipped the stock stem which made for a much more aggressive ride. The last upgrade that I've made is I went stan's tubeless with a WTB Weirwolf on the rear and the stock Kenda small Block 8 on the front. I would love to upgrade the Tektro Mechanical Breaks to some Shimano SLXs. I would post pics, but I can't figure out how to do it from my tablet

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    Re: Talon owners .....

    Quick question... I'm thinking about going tubeless on the stock rims/tires on my '12 T2...is it worth it? I was hoping to save a little weight. Between tubeless and the new fork I'm getting, I could shave off 3lbs. Any reason I shouldn't go tubeless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GelatiCruiser View Post
    Quick question... I'm thinking about going tubeless on the stock rims/tires on my '12 T2...is it worth it? I was hoping to save a little weight. Between tubeless and the new fork I'm getting, I could shave off 3lbs. Any reason I shouldn't go tubeless?
    I just had mine done a couple of days ago, so I don't have a great perspective. The ride is different, but I can't put my finger on why. I did the tubeless because I was getting flats practically every ride, and I was told by many people that going stan's tubeless was the remedy for this. We'll see.

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    Going tubeless doesn't necessarily translates to weight saving, you may save a little but the difference is on tire pressure and grip.

    With the OEM wheels you could go ghetto or use the rim strips, both work well.

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    Our Talons have been in the shed since December, can come up with different excuses for not riding but for the time being they will remain stored until the snow goes away and trails dry up but in the mean time we keep busy snowboarding.

    This how ours looked after the last time they were ridden.


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    Re: Talon owners .....

    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Going tubeless doesn't necessarily translates to weight saving, you may save a little but the difference is on tire pressure and grip.

    With the OEM wheels you could go ghetto or use the rim strips, both work well.
    Kinda figured as much. I'm also lazy and don't want to be changing out/adding more Stan's or homebrew in there every couple of months. It would only translate to about 1lb of weight loss between the 2 tubes, but on a 34 lb bike, it'd make a difference. Every little bit counts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GelatiCruiser View Post
    Kinda figured as much. I'm also lazy and don't want to be changing out/adding more Stan's or homebrew in there every couple of months. It would only translate to about 1lb of weight loss between the 2 tubes, but on a 34 lb bike, it'd make a difference. Every little bit counts!
    That's the downside of using sealant, it dries up and you have to put some more every once in a while; with a UST rim the sealant is optional if you don't have punctures.

    The major offenders are the fork, crankset w bb and wheels, other bit and pieces like stem, handlebar, seatpost and saddle are also on the heavy side if you're counting grams. I'm very happy on how ours turned out with just replacing the fork and crankset.

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    Re: Talon owners .....

    Tell me about it... 5 lb front wheel + 6lb fork... Wtf? Lol

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    Hey Guys,

    I'm brand new to the forum and a definite noob when it comes to upgrading my stock mountain bike. It's a 2012 Talon 2. I've been riding for about a year now and I really need to ditch the suntour fork but I don't know which one will fit. Can someone tell me what axle type the 2012 talon 2 has?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertGiant View Post
    Hey Guys,

    I'm brand new to the forum and a definite noob when it comes to upgrading my stock mountain bike. It's a 2012 Talon 2. I've been riding for about a year now and I really need to ditch the suntour fork but I don't know which one will fit. Can someone tell me what axle type the 2012 talon 2 has?
    You can get any fork with a 9mm QR axle and a straight steer tube 1 1/8". Obviously it needs to be for disc mount brakes and 29er tires and 100mm travel. I just went through this process a couple of weeks ago with the exact same Talon 2 2012, and I ended up choosing the X-fusion Slide, and I'm really enjoying it. It's a real smooth and simple to adjust fork. Real plush and very reasonably priced

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    Re: Talon owners .....

    If you're on a limited budget, scour ebay and click and pink bike and you might be able to find something great at a discount. Just remember you need the steerer tube to be at least 7 3/8" long to fit. If you want a fork with a warranty that isn't used, then check out Suntour customer loyalty upgrade plan. You can get an air fork with lock and rebound damping for $175. Most bike shops will only charge around $40 for a fork install. There is a thread in the beginner's corner forum titled "so you want to upgrade your Suntour fork"... Definitely worth checking in to... The program seems to be getting great reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GelatiCruiser View Post
    If you're on a limited budget, scour ebay and click and pink bike and you might be able to find something great at a discount. Just remember you need the steerer tube to be at least 7 3/8" long to fit. If you want a fork with a warranty that isn't used, then check out Suntour customer loyalty upgrade plan. You can get an air fork with lock and rebound damping for $175. Most bike shops will only charge around $40 for a fork install. There is a thread in the beginner's corner forum titled "so you want to upgrade your Suntour fork"... Definitely worth checking in to... The program seems to be getting great reviews.
    +1 to the Suntour loyalty upgrade, worth checking out if you have a tight budget and don't be fooled, their higher end forks are as good as the others.

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    Thanks for the feedback. I haven't read many good reviews of the suntour raidons so I think im leaning toward the x fusion slide. Other than those two are there any rock shox you might recomend without breaking the bank?

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    Re: Talon owners .....

    I just picked up a rock Shox Recon Gold tk for $249 from Cross Lake Sales. Might be worth looking into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertGiant View Post
    Thanks for the feedback. I haven't read many good reviews of the suntour raidons so I think im leaning toward the x fusion slide. Other than those two are there any rock shox you might recomend without breaking the bank?
    Reba Air or Dual Air, got my Dual Air for under $400 on eBay.

    Marzocchi TST2 or Micro Ti, Manitou Tower, Fox is more expensive.

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    New question here.

    So, I have a 2012 Talon 1 and want to replace the fork. Found someone with a new Rock Shox XC28tk 29er. Will this work? I see some places that this has the 9mm QR. I think my bike has 15mm front axel, but not sure about whether or not this would fit.

    Any thoughts to help a newb?

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    After doing a little more research and talking to my LBS, I'm going to sell the talon and just buy a better 29er. Looking at the giant xtc 29er 2 right now. Better components all the way around and lighter weight. My budget is around $1500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dealwagon View Post
    So, I have a 2012 Talon 1 and want to replace the fork. Found someone with a new Rock Shox XC28tk 29er. Will this work? I see some places that this has the 9mm QR. I think my bike has 15mm front axel, but not sure about whether or not this would fit.

    Any thoughts to help a newb?
    Believe that the 2012 is qr9 having said that the XC28tk is not a great improvement over your current fork, if you're in a tight budget try to find a Marzocchi TST2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Believe that the 2012 is qr9 having said that the XC28tk is not a great improvement over your current fork, if you're in a tight budget try to find a Marzocchi TST2.
    I installed this fork on my 2011 T1 and it totally transformed my bike. Highly suggest this fork if on a tighter budget!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heypal99 View Post
    I installed this fork on my 2011 T1 and it totally transformed my bike. Highly suggest this fork if on a tighter budget!
    I assume you are talking about the "Marzocchi TST2", because the "XC28tk" appears to be basically the same thing as what comes with the bike. I would not wast the money on the XC28tk because you would be making basically a lateral move.

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    Re: Talon owners .....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dealwagon View Post
    So, I have a 2012 Talon 1 and want to replace the fork. Found someone with a new Rock Shox XC28tk 29er. Will this work? I see some places that this has the 9mm QR. I think my bike has 15mm front axel, but not sure about whether or not this would fit.

    Any thoughts to help a newb?
    What's your budget? You could find something a lot nicer than the 28tk for a little over the same price. Or you could get an air for with rebound damping and lockout through the Suntour upgrade program for $175. Let us know your budget and we can point you in the right direction.

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    Well. I found one locally for $70. Never installed. Looking at selling the stock one for like $30 and only being out $40. Seems worth it to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dealwagon View Post
    Looking at selling the stock one for like $30
    Good luck with that! Had mine up on CL for awhile and no hits. There is pretty much no market for them. You may be lucky to get $5 for it. Seriously. You would be better to save your money until you can get a better one (air based) or if the $40 is burning a hole in your wallet, then convert to tubeless (I did the Ghetto tubeless conversion for just about exactly 40 bucks). Being able to run lower PSI will give you a little more squish, better traction and no more flats! But seriously, I really think even if it was zero cost, I would not bother with that fork, "but that's just like my opinion you know man".

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    I gave one of my Suntour away (the other is on the Reba box waiting to see what happens to it), no one will pay for that boat anchor and the 28tk is about the same POS.

    If your budget is real tight check the loyalty program, there you can get a nice air sprung fork if you don't mind riding Suntour equipment.
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    Re: Talon owners .....

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdennis
    would not bother with that fork, "but that's just like my opinion you know man".
    +rep when I get to my computer. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GelatiCruiser View Post
    I just picked up a rock Shox Recon Gold tk for $249 from Cross Lake Sales. Might be worth looking into.
    This seems like a good deal. Would this fit my bike? 2012 giant talon 2 29er.

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    Re: Talon owners .....

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertGiant View Post
    This seems like a good deal. Would this fit my bike? 2012 giant talon 2 29er.
    Exact same bike I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertGiant View Post
    After doing a little more research and talking to my LBS, I'm going to sell the talon and just buy a better 29er. Looking at the giant xtc 29er 2 right now. Better components all the way around and lighter weight. My budget is around $1500.
    I'm in the same situation as well, with the exact same models at hand. I already flipped the stem on the Talon for a more aggressive stance, and was thinking about upgrading the wheels and shock, but for the price I feel it's better to just go for the XTC and upgrade those SXC2's from there. How much are you going to sell the Talon for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertGiant View Post
    After doing a little more research and talking to my LBS, I'm going to sell the talon and just buy a better 29er. Looking at the giant xtc 29er 2 right now. Better components all the way around and lighter weight. My budget is around $1500.
    The good news is, a new XTC 29er 2 is around $1400 which fits into your budget. The bad news is, the components aren't that much of an upgrade from the Talon. I love Giant bikes, but you may want to look into a Specialized Hardrock Pro 29 which retails for $1300.00 and has some nice parts on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakester View Post
    The good news is, a new XTC 29er 2 is around $1400 which fits into your budget. The bad news is, the components aren't that much of an upgrade from the Talon. I love Giant bikes, but you may want to look into a Specialized Hardrock Pro 29 which retails for $1300.00 and has some nice parts on there.
    Thanks for the input, I will check it out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chemical_brother View Post
    I'm in the same situation as well, with the exact same models at hand. I already flipped the stem on the Talon for a more aggressive stance, and was thinking about upgrading the wheels and shock, but for the price I feel it's better to just go for the XTC and upgrade those SXC2's from there. How much are you going to sell the Talon for?
    I was going to list it for $500 and hope to get $450 for it. It's still in great shape. I'm going look at the XTC 29er 2 and the Specialized Hardrock Pro and see which I like better. Let me know what you decide to do with your Talon.

    I wish I had known more about mountain bikes before buying the entry level Talon 2. I may have ponied up the cash for something a little better.

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    Has anyone here with a Talon 2 upgraded the discs from the mediocre Tektro mechanicals to some nicer hydros? I am scouting out the best upgrade in the $150-$200 range. I'm leaning pretty heavily towards the Shimano Deore m596s which can be found without rotors for around $130-$150. I suppose I could use the Tektro rotors with the Shimanos? I'd love to know what other people are using

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    Quote Originally Posted by hordeton View Post
    Has anyone here with a Talon 2 upgraded the discs from the mediocre Tektro mechanicals to some nicer hydros? I am scouting out the best upgrade in the $150-$200 range. I'm leaning pretty heavily towards the Shimano Deore m596s which can be found without rotors for around $130-$150. I suppose I could use the Tektro rotors with the Shimanos? I'd love to know what other people are using
    With budget in mind check the Shimano SLX, Shimano XT, Formula or Hope; the Shimano Deore will still be better than the mechs but don't have enough power IMO. Having said that I'm still using the Root that came with my Talon 1 and they're enough for what I do.

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    Hey guys,

    I just bought myself a 2013 Giant Talon 29er 0. Since they didn't have my size in stock, I had to order and the bike will be available on Wed! Has anyone tried riding the new Talon yet? According to all the reviews that i've read about the bike, I am getting the vibe that the shocks and tires are a problem. Any input on this bike would be appreciated! Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooitsPhillip View Post
    Hey guys,

    I just bought myself a 2013 Giant Talon 29er 0. Since they didn't have my size in stock, I had to order and the bike will be available on Wed! Has anyone tried riding the new Talon yet? According to all the reviews that i've read about the bike, I am getting the vibe that the shocks and tires are a problem. Any input on this bike would be appreciated! Thanks!
    If you follow this thread you'll notice that year after year the complaints are the same, crappy fork, not so grippy tires and heavy wheels. Keep in mind that the Talon is an entry level bike and as most entry level bikes some parts aren't that good or light.

    The bike is great, handles well and after several upgrades resulting in weight loss is a fun bike to ride.

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    ^^^yeah that. i bought my '12 T1 in july and the only thing left stock is the RD, shifter and cassette. soon it will be gone and replaced with XT components. right now im running 1x8 so picking up 2 more gears with a better ratio is gunna kick a$$. this bike is truly fun to ride once certain components are swapped. start with fork, tires & cockpit. ive got the weight down to 26lbs on a large, thats 6lbs total loss. have fun.

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    very nice! I think I'm just going to start riding it and see for myself. I paid $940 on the bike, which came with a camel bag, helmet and some replacement tubes. I thought that was a good deal for a entry level bike. I'll give it about a month or 2 before I decide to change anything out. The only component I'm really worried about is the forks, which everyone has been complaining about.

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    thats a nice grab there WIP. i paid 925 out the door for just the bike! yeah its def worth riding awhile then making upgrades.

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