Talon owners .....

[MattC555]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I came across a set of SunRingle Chargers for a decent price, but am not sure they'll work... Here's a link to the description: Sun Ringle 29" AM Charger Comp 9/15/20 Black | eBay

Or... possibly these? Sun Ringle 29" XC Black Flag CompWheelset 9/15/20 Black @ eBikeStop.com

The thing that's making me think they wont work is it says 10x1 for the rear axle type...?

To my knowledge the talon has a 10x1 rear axle.

[DiRt DeViL]

^^ what he said

[Krakkenbus]

Just got mine today. Getting ready to get out and get her dirty! Need another 9 pics before I can put a pic up

[dirtbyte]

Just got mine today. Getting ready to get out and get her dirty! Need another 9 pics before I can put a pic up

Welcome to the club. There is a lot of good information in this thread about your new ride. However, beware, there is a severe case of upgradeitis going on!

[Krakkenbus]

You're telling me! Stock pedals are gone, nukeproof electrons in their place. Since I'm totally new to this the forks don't seem "that bad" to me, maybe time will tell! I'm out for a day of riding tomorrow so I'll see how I get on.
Had a blast earlier on in my local wood, I couldn't help but crave more speed!

[noreasterbackcountry]

I just passed 250 miles on my Talon. I switched out the fork to a Rockshox Reba RLT, went tubeless, switched to a lighter seat, and threw on some Geax Mezcal tires. She's down to just over 27lbs.

My initial impressions still hold true: very stable on descents, surprisingly maneuverable, and comfortable geometry.

I think I finally have the new fork dialed in, which has vastly improved the ride quality over the Suntour when in the chop.

I weigh about 180# with gear and my Rockshox is set to 110+/105- which is in the middle of the suggested range. I had it set with less pressure, and positive equal to negative, but the ride seemed harsher. My typical ride (my commute) is atypical east cost singletrack: rolling and smooth with only occasional rocks and roots.

[Fitch89]

Got my 2013 Talon 0 a few days ago and I love it. I'm just getting back into riding after several years of minimal mountain biking and wanted to replace my 26er with a 29er. I was a little worried about the fork (XC 30) as my 26er has a fairly decent Manitou Skareb, but after a few rides I've been pleasantly surprised. It weighs more obviously, but the rebound/preload are easily adjustable and the remote lockout is a nice touch being on an entry level ride.

I was most surprised how this thing climbs. It's the first 29er I've ridden and it seems if you pace yourself correctly it shoots straight up most climbs. Overall I'm very happy with my choice.

One other thing I've seen is that people don't like the look of the 2013 Giants. This is a personal thing obviously but I love the colour scheme and pictures online don't do them justice. They've actually got a nice matte finish and the colour scheme all flows from the Giant logo painted on the head tube. It's too early to be sure, but the matte finish makes it seem like the paint will be more durable as well.

Let me know if you've got any questions about the '13 model and I'll try to answer them. It's awesome that Giant improved the specs while also lowering the price (for us Canadians anyways)

[Larryboy]

i had my doubts about selecting this bike as i was lusting for an air9 from jenson. couple reasons i opted out were, LBS needs $ more than jenson & the talon 1 was 1/2 the price. im an impulse buyer but had done extensive research. i now am on the look out for a DH/FR, maybe a glory? i like the frame alot, tires are good for hardpack/pavement, the drivetrain sucks, elixers are ok, avid rotors blow as well as the spaghetti like fork. whew! but thats me being picky. all in all its a great step in the right direction. i would have got the 0, but they didnt have my size and after walking 3 miles in +100* i was def riding something home.

bought july 3 12

changes are:
pedals-atomlab pimplite wrx- feckin love em w/ some sticky shoes
post-RF ride- not an upgrade but trying to strip some giant badges. think i counted 23 on bike!
saddle-charge spoon- comfy and cheap $27
spacers- bling factor
stem- nukeproof warhead 50mm
bars- nuke proof warhead 760's cut to 720mm- this length bar with short stem = touchy steering, less forgiving but sooooo much better for me
grips- yeti- love em as they are thick, chunky, & super sticky. cant beat em for $24 oh and 2 lock rings per
sram 8spd powerlink chain- these arent made for my abuse. burned one up in 8 wks.

near future:
gravity dropper classic
panaracer FireXC Pro
azonic convertible 20x110 front hub
manitou tower pro 120mm 20mm axle
Shimano Deore M590 Triple Chainset
mrp lrp chainguide & tensioner
x9 or x0 deraileurs
180mm front 160mm rear rotors & brakes to be determined

Very nice!

[ratty2k]

Just pulled the trigger on a Talon 2 on Saturday. Pick it up in a month or so.
Normal bikes are a Transition Covert with 66's and a CCDB heavy and slow uphill (like me!) but great on the downs. a Cotic BFe that a great all rounder HT. But needed something a bit more XC for more normal duties. The Talon fitted the bill nicely and I got nearly £100 off at my LBS (Ron Spencer cycles) UK based and a real nice bunch of guys!

[DiRt DeViL]

Just pulled the trigger on a Talon 2 on Saturday. Pick it up in a month or so.

Enjoy it and please share some dirty pics (of your Talon off course).

[ProfGumby]

I have a talon 2010 talon 1. The front shock was terrible but replaced that with a marz bomber 44 micro ti. I could have been happy with it if I had never ridden a nice fork.
I broke the chain after about 200 miles. The rear derailur kept coming loose, some locktite fixed that.

Seat post kept coming loose and finally damaged the grooves that prevent it from moving. I replaced that with an easton ea70 from the classifieds and now its perfect!

Fork 225
chain 15
seat post 35

Oh, and all the reflectors broke off.

Thats funny. all the reflectors on all my Giant mountain bikes broke off too!

[ProfGumby]

Got my 2013 Talon 0 a few days ago and I love it. I'm just getting back into riding after several years of minimal mountain biking and wanted to replace my 26er with a 29er. I was a little worried about the fork (XC 30) as my 26er has a fairly decent Manitou Skareb, but after a few rides I've been pleasantly surprised. It weighs more obviously, but the rebound/preload are easily adjustable and the remote lockout is a nice touch being on an entry level ride.

I was most surprised how this thing climbs. It's the first 29er I've ridden and it seems if you pace yourself correctly it shoots straight up most climbs. Overall I'm very happy with my choice.

One other thing I've seen is that people don't like the look of the 2013 Giants. This is a personal thing obviously but I love the colour scheme and pictures online don't do them justice. They've actually got a nice matte finish and the colour scheme all flows from the Giant logo painted on the head tube. It's too early to be sure, but the matte finish makes it seem like the paint will be more durable as well.

Let me know if you've got any questions about the '13 model and I'll try to answer them. It's awesome that Giant improved the specs while also lowering the price (for us Canadians anyways)

I am really liking the 2013 Talon 0. One of the big shining spots in the new lineup! It is like the Big Boy version of my 2010 Rincon! Only better!

You are at the WRONG place for an unbiased opinion. With that said, $600 is a fair price.

Just know that you WILL want to replace that fork unless you ride on pavement and very smooth trails. The 2011 Talon has a QR15 hub which is harder to find than 9mm, and thus leads to more expensive options. Expect to pay around $400 for a decent fork upgrade.

Note that you can get a lesser brand bike with better components for the $1000 that you would pay for the Talon plus a fork upgrade (e.g. Sette 29er with X7, Avid Elixir 1, Rockshox Recon Silver fork. 3x10 is $999 right now).

I chose Giant because I've never had an issue with the quality of their frames.

I also looked at the Settle and some of the bikes direct offerings as well. And this is very true! However I also am very happy with Giant and really like my local dealer. So Giant is a strong player in the new bike hunt.

[Nwleaf52]

Hello fellow riders! Just installed new harware on my Talon. Hope things gets better from here

[dirtbyte]

Dirt Devil (or anyone else) --

I am going to be replacing my cranks with the SLX dual ring (Chain Reaction Cycles has a great deal on them right now)

I am thinking about also switching out the Front Der with a 2x specific version, but I am not sure about the seat diameter and thus not sure which one to get... I just know that you have the answer

Here is the link to the der I am looking at, can you help me pick which size to get (2011 Talon 29er 1)

Is it 28.6, 31.8 or 34.9?

Also wondering if this one would work... I think it would look better... Shimano SLX M665 Top Swing 2x9 Front Mech | Buy Online | ChainReactionCycles.com

Thanks!

[dirtbyte]

Thinking it is the same as the seat collar... 34.9 ....

Edit:

Yep, read somewhere that it is stamped inside the clamp, so I took the stock one off and there it was... Stamped 34.9...

[marc1978]

There's a 26 inch version of the Talon, plenty of them on eBay but they're from overseas.

This is my 2010 Talon 0 26er, I've upgraded it with the following:

Fork - Rock Shox Reba RLT 120mm (2012)
Wheel set - Mavic 721/HopePro2Evo
Brakes - Shimano SLX Hydraulic disc 180/160mm
Drive train - XT Rear Derailleur and SLX 9 speed Casette
Bar and Stem - Easton EA70 Bar, EA90 Stem
Pedals - Shimano M324

I'm very happy with it but I must admit, sometimes I think instead of spending the time and money with these upgrades, would I have been better off just going for a higher spec bike to begin with?

I initially chose a Talon as my impression of the Giant XTC range was that it was higher performance race oriented range with a focus on weight reduction which I interpret as potentially not being as rugged and resistant to damage. I'm less concerned with a light bike as long as its a strong bike. I weigh about 220 lbs.

I have enjoyed the customizing process and it now rides really well, particularly once I got my tyre choice dialled. I have had a Kenda Small Block 8 2.1 on the back and Panaracer Fire XC Pro 2.1 up front and find it a good combo. However, with winter mud the clog factor on the Kenda SB8 may become an issue.

All of the components I have taken off my bike have ended up on my girlfriends bike as near new upgrades for her, so I have been able to recycle which is good.

I'm in the UK by the way, and initially got interested in the Talon when reading this article (Bike Radar 2010) :

Giant Talon 0 Review - BikeRadar

I would really like to do some riding in the US particularly on the dry desert/rocky places like Utah, Arizona and New Mexico etc...

[DiRt DeViL]

Thinking it is the same as the seat collar... 34.9 ....

Edit:

Yep, read somewhere that it is stamped inside the clamp, so I took the stock one off and there it was... Stamped 34.9...

There's nothing like self service

[DiRt DeViL]

Dirt Devil (or anyone else) --

I am going to be replacing my cranks with the SLX dual ring (Chain Reaction Cycles has a great deal on them right now)

I am thinking about also switching out the Front Der with a 2x specific version, but I am not sure about the seat diameter and thus not sure which one to get... I just know that you have the answer

Here is the link to the der I am looking at, can you help me pick which size to get (2011 Talon 29er 1)

Is it 28.6, 31.8 or 34.9?

Also wondering if this one would work... I think it would look better... Shimano SLX M665 Top Swing 2x9 Front Mech | Buy Online | ChainReactionCycles.com

Thanks!

The cranks will be fine but there's no real need to change the front mech, just adjust the limit screws and save some coin.

[dirtbyte]

The cranks will be fine but there's no real need to change the front mech, just adjust the limit screws and save some coin.

Thanks for responding! The reason why I started looking at a new front der was because the difference in teeth on the 22/36, I read that you needed a der that was capable of 14 tooth difference. I ended up getting one anyway because it was so cheap, and I would like to move it down a little bit closer to the middle ring (the existing one can not be lowered much due to clearance on the chainstay (and it is not designed to work like that).

Anyway ordered the Triple SLX crank and the SLX conventional der. Will post pics once it is all done...

[DiRt DeViL]

Thanks for responding! The reason why I started looking at a new front der was because the difference in teeth on the 22/36, I read that you needed a der that was capable of 14 tooth difference. I ended up getting one anyway because it was so cheap, and I would like to move it down a little bit closer to the middle ring (the existing one can not be lowered much due to clearance on the chainstay (and it is not designed to work like that).

Anyway ordered the Triple SLX crank and the SLX conventional der. Will post pics once it is all done...

You'll save some weight and the shifter will work just fine, plus the SLX looks a lot nicer than the Deore.

[Aggie88]

I am thinking of purchasing my wife a Talon 2 - 29er. She's 5'7" and this will be her 1st MTB. I am currently riding a RH 2010 26". The guy selling it said he has only taken the bike on two trail rides and just kind of need the money. He was asking $525 and I got him down to $425 and its a 2012. I am not sure with the possibility of having to change the fork or should I just go with a Airborne Guardian?

[DiRt DeViL]

I am thinking of purchasing my wife a Talon 2 - 29er. She's 5'7" and this will be her 1st MTB. I am currently riding a RH 2010 26". The guy selling it said he has only taken the bike on two trail rides and just kind of need the money. He was asking $525 and I got him down to $425 and its a 2012. I am not sure with the possibility of having to change the fork or should I just go with a Airborne Guardian?

You're asking on the Giant forum so expect biased answers, $425 for a Talon 2 isn't bad specially if is like new.

Talon vs Guardian, based on a quick look at the specs the Guardian has a better component spec and has a lower MSRP, if you can afford it go for it.

[dirtbyte]

Dirt Devil ... My new SLX cranks are here (got the triple) and I got all the tools I need to go at this myself My question is... Did you use the spacers and how many? I tried two on the R (side with the rings) and one on the other side, and there was not enough room to get the preload cap on the other side (I made sure to tap the cranks all the way in)

I just tried with no spacers, and it seems like there is a little too much spindle on the non drive side.

Anyway, my question is if you used any spacers (how many on each side...)

Thanks!

[DiRt DeViL]

Dirt Devil ... My new SLX cranks are here (got the triple) and I got all the tools I need to go at this myself My question is... Did you use the spacers and how many? I tried two on the R (side with the rings) and one on the other side, and there was not enough room to get the preload cap on the other side (I made sure to tap the cranks all the way in)

I just tried with no spacers, and it seems like there is a little too much spindle on the non drive side.

Anyway, my question is if you used any spacers (how many on each side...)

Thanks!

Believe that for the SLX I used one on the drive side and none on the non-drive side, will verify when I get home tonight.

Positive that with the Stylo used no spacers.

[dirtbyte]

Believe that for the SLX I used one on the drive side and none on the non-drive side, will verify when I get home tonight.

Positive that with the Stylo used no spacers.

Thanks! Let me know what you find out...

That is where I am at with it right now. This has been part of my learning about how to work on my bike, been fun, but looking forward to being done with it!

[dirtbyte]

Ok, I have it all put together with one spacer on the drive side and none on the other side and that seems to be perfect. Just took it for a spin around the block and it feels great. Fixed the knocking I was getting when pedaling under load, and they look great!

One last question... Do you know if I am supposed to remove that plastic nut that was used on the non drive side (used to compress everything together)?

Thanks for all the help! This place rocks!

Next up is putting on the new front der tonight (after I go for a ride)...

[ratty2k]

Leave the plastic nut thingy in, it gets clamped when you tighten the two bolts up. It helps prevent the crank arm 'walking' off the crank axle.

On another note, I've cancelled my Talon... But bought a Trance X (26") instead. Pick it up in Feb/ March... Bit of a wait, but my Cotic BFe will do nicely!

[DiRt DeViL]

Ok, I have it all put together with one spacer on the drive side and none on the other side and that seems to be perfect. Just took it for a spin around the block and it feels great. Fixed the knocking I was getting when pedaling under load, and they look great!

One last question... Do you know if I am supposed to remove that plastic nut that was used on the non drive side (used to compress everything together)?

Thanks for all the help! This place rocks!

Next up is putting on the new front der tonight (after I go for a ride)...

Verified and in deed is one spacer on the drive side.

The plastic nut is only used to compress the cranks up before tightening the screws, after that remove it and save it for latter use.

Those cranks are sweet and look great, enjoy them.

[dirtbyte]

Verified and in deed is one spacer on the drive side.

The plastic nut is only used to compress the cranks up before tightening the screws, after that remove it and save it for latter use.

Those cranks are sweet and look great, enjoy them.

Thanks for the help! That is what I ended up going with and it works great! Had to get a ride in just after getting them on (PERFECT weather). Once I got home I got the new SLX front der on and it also is working great. I did notice an improvement with the new cranks.

Thanks again for all the help! If I could rep you again I would

[DiRt DeViL]

Ahh, got confused with the plastic nut, leave it installed. Confused the nut with the compressor tool, save that.

Thanks for the help! That is what I ended up going with and it works great! Had to get a ride in just after getting them on (PERFECT weather). Once I got home I got the new SLX front der on and it also is working great. I did notice an improvement with the new cranks.

Thanks again for all the help! If I could rep you again I would

NP, that's what we're here for, keep the rubber side down and enjoy the ride.

[ratty2k]

Bit late, but:

Do not remove the plastic nut.
1. It weighs next to nothing.
2. Its a REAL good place to keep it.
3. It will stop the crank arm walking off.
I had an older hollowset without the little retaining clip and lost the plastic preload nut. Believe me, your leg will easily overpower any force you can clamp the crank arm with! Result? One knackered crank arm...
Oh, and Shimano say nothing about removing it either...
http://bike.shimano.com/publish/cont...stallation.pdf

[dirtbyte]

Thanks. I had left it in... Two rides down, and I am loving them!

[kiwikiwi]

Hi all (almost 1st post in this forum),
I just got my new 2013 Talon 29er 0 last Saturday.
For a couple of weeks, I had been trying to decide between the 2013 Trek Mamba and the Talon, and finally the guy from the shop convinced me to get the Talon. I hope I got it right since the Mamba had really good reviews!
I had a ride off-road on Sunday and it was great. First time riding a 29er so hard to tell how good it is, but it felt good. I did like the brakes and the poplock on the handle bar. Really handy feature.

I would post some pics but newbies don't seem to be allowed to.

[DiRt DeViL]

For a couple of weeks, I had been trying to decide between the 2013 Trek Mamba and the Talon, and finally the guy from the shop convinced me to get the Talon. I hope I got it right since the Mamba had really good reviews!

I was in your position over a year ago, the deciding factor was the part spec and the G2 specific fork. The Mamba had a lower part spec and didn't wanted to limit my fork upgrade options with the G2 geometry.

Fast forward to today, my son took my first Talon and eventually got another one for myself, upgraded the weaker parts on them and we're pretty happy on how the bikes turned out; you'll enjoy yours too, is a great bike.

[Fitch89]

I actually think the Cobia is closer to the Talon 0 isn't it? With any of these bikes though it's pretty hard to go wrong, there's a reason the two brands make up such of the market. Enjoy the bike!

[kiwikiwi]

Thanks, you guys are right. I'll stop "worrying" and will just enjoy this great bike.

By the way, really good point Dirt Devil about the Trek G2 geometry and future upgrades.

For now, with the Talon, I'm just going to ride the bike as is, with the stock components. There isn't anything yet that claims for an urgent upgrade IMO.

[tuskenraider]

There isn't anything yet that claims for an urgent upgrade IMO.

In my experience, just the pedals.

[yzfrider]

I have a 2011 Talon 1 w/ stock forks. Looking at a
RockShox Recon Gold TK Suspension Fork Solo Air 29" 100mm
and a 2012 ROCK SHOX Reba RLT 29" Dual Air, 100mm, 15mm Thru Axle. Would love to hear some thoughts, especially from someone who has ridden both shocks.

[Jimmy V]

I have a 2011 Talon 1 w/ stock forks. Looking at a
RockShox Recon Gold TK Suspension Fork Solo Air 29" 100mm
and a 2012 ROCK SHOX Reba RLT 29" Dual Air, 100mm, 15mm Thru Axle. Would love to hear some thoughts, especially from someone who has ridden both shocks.

I prefer the adjustability and feel of my Dual Air.
The Solo is more simple and quicker/easer to set up, but to me the Reba is superior.
The Reba came stock on my 2012 Anthem X29er, it's a sweet fork.
What came stock on your 2011 Talon 1?

[yzfrider]

I prefer the adjustability and feel of my Dual Air.
The Solo is more simple and quicker/easer to set up, but to me the Reba is superior.
The Reba came stock on my 2012 Anthem X29er, it's a sweet fork.
What came stock on your 2011 Talon 1?

SR Radon

[fishwrinkle]

hi guys, quick question. the head tube ID on the talon, is it 44mm? also, wondering if i get the cane creek 44 headset if i could run a tapered steerer?

[Jimmy V]

SR Radon

So, if it was my pick, I would get the best deal. Largest % off of retail.
Either one will be a nice upgrade.
Only you know what you are willing to spend.
Enjoy!

[FullsizeMike]

Well I pulled the trigger today on a Talon0 for my wife. Its a 12 and seems to be in excellent shape. I was able to get it for 450 with an extra set of tires and some shimano pedals. Very happy with this deal. My wife rode it some today around the neighborhood, and it fits her well. I have a Goblin, and it's damn near as nice as that. Except for the fork. Its got the xc28 on it. Need to get it all dialed in and get her out on some singletrack!

[GelatiCruiser]

Just an fyi to Talon owners who are looking to upgrade the stock Suntour fork, this was posted by a user in a thread I made about advice on a new fork:

Hi All,

I just wanted to chime in here briefly about our product. We understand that not all bikes come with a fork that meets a riders style, terrain or expectations. SR Suntour makes forks at every level to meet a riders needs. Now I realize we are fighting a bit of a battle to get consumers to try our higher end product so we have launched a new program.

We are happy to provide a customer loyalty upgrade program that allows end users to upgrade to a fork of their choice from SR Suntour. Forks start at the Raidon level with an air cartridge, adjustable rebound and hydraulic lockout. Pricing starts at $150-$175 depending on the wheel size.

Best regards,

Nick

Could be a nice program/opportunity for people looking to upgrade...ie: me.

[DiRt DeViL]

Could be a nice program/opportunity for people looking to upgrade...ie: me.

A little too late for some of us but better late than never, their high end stuff looks interesting and reviewed well but they have to overcome their crappy reputation before trying to play with the big boys.

[Krakkenbus]

Looking for a set of brakes for my talon, upgradeitis has really kicked in. My elixir 1's really aren't cutting it anymore. I'm a little confused about what, if any, mount i need and also can i use any sized rotor?

my fork isn't really bothering me that much, im looking to upgrade it in the spring.

[fishwrinkle]

if you run 160mm rotors like the ones that came on it stock then most forks will allow direct bolt on. if going to bigger rotors you will need adapters from the brake company to allow for the growth in circumference. oh once you upgrade that fork you will ask yourself why in the hell you waited so long. ride a buddies bike with a plush fork and you will know in the first hard corner and chatter.

[fishwrinkle]

while im here i do have a question regarding G2 geo on a cobia. as i upgrade my talon i was planning on taking the parts form the talon and putting them onto a cobia frame i acquired. i have no clue to this G2 geo, so would the crappy stock fork from giant not be good to put on the cobia, and why? the cobia is eventually going to be my daughters first real bike. she has a lil growing to do, its a 17.5" and she is 5'-3". if it dont work then it sits here for buddies to use. i found the frame stripped and laying in the bushes behind a church i was working at. i watched for a month then scooped it up. pretty sure its hot as its been stripped of all except drivetrain.

[DiRt DeViL]

while im here i do have a question regarding G2 geo on a cobia. as i upgrade my talon i was planning on taking the parts form the talon and putting them onto a cobia frame i acquired. i have no clue to this G2 geo, so would the crappy stock fork from giant not be good to put on the cobia, and why? the cobia is eventually going to be my daughters first real bike. she has a lil growing to do, its a 17.5" and she is 5'-3". if it dont work then it sits here for buddies to use. i found the frame stripped and laying in the bushes behind a church i was working at. i watched for a month then scooped it up. pretty sure its hot as its been stripped of all except drivetrain.

The only part that the G2 really affects is the fork due to the "special" geometry that the G2 bikes have, the other parts will play well between the Talon and the Cobia.

[DiRt DeViL]

Looking for a set of brakes for my talon, upgradeitis has really kicked in. My elixir 1's really aren't cutting it anymore. I'm a little confused about what, if any, mount i need and also can i use any sized rotor?

my fork isn't really bothering me that much, im looking to upgrade it in the spring.

If you keep the same rotor size (160mm) you won't need any adapters but if you go bigger (to increase power) you'll need an adapter for your new rotor size (usually 180 or 203mm).

If all you want to do is replace your brake set go with Shimano SLX or XT and keep the same rotor size, those brakes are powerful enough.

[dirtbyte]

oh once you upgrade that fork you will ask yourself why in the hell you waited so long..

This was my experience! IMO, it should be the FIRST thing you throw money at with this bike.

[Richgsr]

Hey guys,

I own a '13 Talon 1 and I'm looking to upgrade the tires.

Does anyone know what the max size tire I can fit on those stock rims? I went on Giant's site and didn't get much info.

Thanks,
Rich

[dirtbyte]

Does anyone know what the max size tire I can fit on those stock rims?

I would say that you are not limited by the rims. You are only limited by how much clearance you have in regards to the frame. I am running 2.2's (Geax Saguaro) with no issues. Also, I have found that different brands have different width's so you really don't know until you have them mounted up.

I still have room to spare with the 2.2's on mine (2011 Talon 1). I would think I could go up to 2.4, but why? If you are looking for more traction, I would recommend going tubeless and running lower pressure with what you have.

I converted the stock wheels and tires to tubeless with no issues. Just wrapped the inside of the rim with Gorilla tape, put in a stans presta valve stem, put in some stans sealant, and inflated with an air compressor (there are lots of posts with more details on this site). I run around 25 PSI and noticed a HUGE improvement.

Links about going tubeless (I recommend doing it)

Gorilla tape ghetto tubeless works great.

Giant SXC29-2 converting to tubeless

Tubeless

[Richgsr]

Thank you for the info, Dennis.

I am looking for a bit more traction and I find the stock tires slip and slide quite a bit on descents.

I'm definitely looking to go tubeless, but I think i'd rather do it on new tires as my stock ones have had numerous punctures already.

[fishwrinkle]

those RR's that came with yours looks like they would handle way better than the sm blk 8's that came on the '12. drop your chain into 1x1 and make a guess off the chain line. i have pana rampage 2.35 on a 2012 T1. i prefer 2.2 on rear and a lil different tread but they rock with low psi in the snow

[DiRt DeViL]

The Cross Mark and Small Block tires work well for hard pack, so so on loose stuff and awful on mud or snow but having said that we are still using them until is time to replace them.

[cj_desmit]

I finally got my Tower Pro installed along with my new wheels and tires. I ended up going with Sun Ringle Charger Comps. I haven't been able to ride it yet but I think it sure does look good! Thanks to those that helped me a while back!

[LazyRid3r]

[LazyRid3r]

Few upgrades ...

Shimano SLX: Crank, Shifters,Chain,Derailleur.
Fox Fork, Giant flat bar, Cobalt seat post, Mountain King Tires

[dirtbyte]

I can't stand to see my beloved Talon thread die, so here is an updated picture of mine...



Recent Updates to my 2011 Talon 29er:

1) Cranks updated to SLX
2) Selle Italia Q-BiK Flow Saddle https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Produc...mmaryOnly=true
- Picked this up at Nashbar, great deal on the seat and I love it. Plus you have to like how it looks like it was made just for this bike

This bike is holding up great! Currently shopping around for a full susser because my riding has been venturing into more of the all mountain range, and my body is taking a beating on this hard tail, but this bike is taking the beating I am giving it and laughing at me saying "is that all ya got?" What a great bike, and a great sport we enjoy!

Now post up some more pictures of your talons! I am down for at least another week due to surgery and I need the stoke (which is why it is so clean)!

[heypal99]

Looks great! In fact, I believe you are running the same bash guard as me. Staightline? Did your crank set upgrade improve the perfomance of the bike or is it simply for weight purposes? I was thinking that it would be my next upgrade.

[dirtbyte]

Looks great! In fact, I believe you are running the same bash guard as me. Staightline? Did your crank set upgrade improve the perfomance of the bike or is it simply for weight purposes? I was thinking that it would be my next upgrade.

Actually it is a BBG bash guard... I actually upgraded the cranks because the bottom bracket developed a knocking when under load. I suppose I could have just replaced the bottom bracket, but I got a good deal on the crankset, so I figured why not. It did shave around 1 pound (!!!) off the bike. Not sure I could really say it improved the performance much, it does seem a tad bit stiffer (and looks better), but did not really notice much of a difference in shifting, etc. Plus the whole hollowtech thing is just plain cool.

[hordeton]

I was able to pick up a Talon 2 at the Giant World bike store in Denver for $430 since they were moving out the 12s to make room for 13s. I tossed the suntour immediately and ended up with an X-fusion Slide that I found on e-bay new for $250. I was considering the Tower Pro and the Reba, but I felt that my budget was more in-line with the X-fusion, which has gotten good reviews. The mechanic at the Giant store highly recommended the fork and said that he was riding one and felt it compared in feel and quality to the Fox Float. Lord knows it shaved 2lbs off the front of the bike. I also flipped the stock stem which made for a much more aggressive ride. The last upgrade that I've made is I went stan's tubeless with a WTB Weirwolf on the rear and the stock Kenda small Block 8 on the front. I would love to upgrade the Tektro Mechanical Breaks to some Shimano SLXs. I would post pics, but I can't figure out how to do it from my tablet

[GelatiCruiser]

Quick question... I'm thinking about going tubeless on the stock rims/tires on my '12 T2...is it worth it? I was hoping to save a little weight. Between tubeless and the new fork I'm getting, I could shave off 3lbs. Any reason I shouldn't go tubeless?

[hordeton]

Quick question... I'm thinking about going tubeless on the stock rims/tires on my '12 T2...is it worth it? I was hoping to save a little weight. Between tubeless and the new fork I'm getting, I could shave off 3lbs. Any reason I shouldn't go tubeless?

I just had mine done a couple of days ago, so I don't have a great perspective. The ride is different, but I can't put my finger on why. I did the tubeless because I was getting flats practically every ride, and I was told by many people that going stan's tubeless was the remedy for this. We'll see.

[DiRt DeViL]

Going tubeless doesn't necessarily translates to weight saving, you may save a little but the difference is on tire pressure and grip.

With the OEM wheels you could go ghetto or use the rim strips, both work well.

[DiRt DeViL]

Our Talons have been in the shed since December, can come up with different excuses for not riding but for the time being they will remain stored until the snow goes away and trails dry up but in the mean time we keep busy snowboarding.

This how ours looked after the last time they were ridden.

[GelatiCruiser]

Going tubeless doesn't necessarily translates to weight saving, you may save a little but the difference is on tire pressure and grip.

With the OEM wheels you could go ghetto or use the rim strips, both work well.

Kinda figured as much. I'm also lazy and don't want to be changing out/adding more Stan's or homebrew in there every couple of months. It would only translate to about 1lb of weight loss between the 2 tubes, but on a 34 lb bike, it'd make a difference. Every little bit counts!

[DiRt DeViL]

Kinda figured as much. I'm also lazy and don't want to be changing out/adding more Stan's or homebrew in there every couple of months. It would only translate to about 1lb of weight loss between the 2 tubes, but on a 34 lb bike, it'd make a difference. Every little bit counts!

That's the downside of using sealant, it dries up and you have to put some more every once in a while; with a UST rim the sealant is optional if you don't have punctures.

The major offenders are the fork, crankset w bb and wheels, other bit and pieces like stem, handlebar, seatpost and saddle are also on the heavy side if you're counting grams. I'm very happy on how ours turned out with just replacing the fork and crankset.

[GelatiCruiser]

Tell me about it... 5 lb front wheel + 6lb fork... Wtf? Lol

[DesertGiant]

Hey Guys,

I'm brand new to the forum and a definite noob when it comes to upgrading my stock mountain bike. It's a 2012 Talon 2. I've been riding for about a year now and I really need to ditch the suntour fork but I don't know which one will fit. Can someone tell me what axle type the 2012 talon 2 has?

[hordeton]

Hey Guys,

I'm brand new to the forum and a definite noob when it comes to upgrading my stock mountain bike. It's a 2012 Talon 2. I've been riding for about a year now and I really need to ditch the suntour fork but I don't know which one will fit. Can someone tell me what axle type the 2012 talon 2 has?

You can get any fork with a 9mm QR axle and a straight steer tube 1 1/8". Obviously it needs to be for disc mount brakes and 29er tires and 100mm travel. I just went through this process a couple of weeks ago with the exact same Talon 2 2012, and I ended up choosing the X-fusion Slide, and I'm really enjoying it. It's a real smooth and simple to adjust fork. Real plush and very reasonably priced

[GelatiCruiser]

If you're on a limited budget, scour ebay and click and pink bike and you might be able to find something great at a discount. Just remember you need the steerer tube to be at least 7 3/8" long to fit. If you want a fork with a warranty that isn't used, then check out Suntour customer loyalty upgrade plan. You can get an air fork with lock and rebound damping for $175. Most bike shops will only charge around $40 for a fork install. There is a thread in the beginner's corner forum titled "so you want to upgrade your Suntour fork"... Definitely worth checking in to... The program seems to be getting great reviews.

[DiRt DeViL]

If you're on a limited budget, scour ebay and click and pink bike and you might be able to find something great at a discount. Just remember you need the steerer tube to be at least 7 3/8" long to fit. If you want a fork with a warranty that isn't used, then check out Suntour customer loyalty upgrade plan. You can get an air fork with lock and rebound damping for $175. Most bike shops will only charge around $40 for a fork install. There is a thread in the beginner's corner forum titled "so you want to upgrade your Suntour fork"... Definitely worth checking in to... The program seems to be getting great reviews.

+1 to the Suntour loyalty upgrade, worth checking out if you have a tight budget and don't be fooled, their higher end forks are as good as the others.

[DesertGiant]

Thanks for the feedback. I haven't read many good reviews of the suntour raidons so I think im leaning toward the x fusion slide. Other than those two are there any rock shox you might recomend without breaking the bank?

[GelatiCruiser]

I just picked up a rock Shox Recon Gold tk for $249 from Cross Lake Sales. Might be worth looking into.

[DiRt DeViL]

Thanks for the feedback. I haven't read many good reviews of the suntour raidons so I think im leaning toward the x fusion slide. Other than those two are there any rock shox you might recomend without breaking the bank?

Reba Air or Dual Air, got my Dual Air for under $400 on eBay.

Marzocchi TST2 or Micro Ti, Manitou Tower, Fox is more expensive.

[Dealwagon]

So, I have a 2012 Talon 1 and want to replace the fork. Found someone with a new Rock Shox XC28tk 29er. Will this work? I see some places that this has the 9mm QR. I think my bike has 15mm front axel, but not sure about whether or not this would fit.

Any thoughts to help a newb?

[DesertGiant]

After doing a little more research and talking to my LBS, I'm going to sell the talon and just buy a better 29er. Looking at the giant xtc 29er 2 right now. Better components all the way around and lighter weight. My budget is around $1500.

[DiRt DeViL]

So, I have a 2012 Talon 1 and want to replace the fork. Found someone with a new Rock Shox XC28tk 29er. Will this work? I see some places that this has the 9mm QR. I think my bike has 15mm front axel, but not sure about whether or not this would fit.

Any thoughts to help a newb?

Believe that the 2012 is qr9 having said that the XC28tk is not a great improvement over your current fork, if you're in a tight budget try to find a Marzocchi TST2.

[heypal99]

Believe that the 2012 is qr9 having said that the XC28tk is not a great improvement over your current fork, if you're in a tight budget try to find a Marzocchi TST2.

I installed this fork on my 2011 T1 and it totally transformed my bike. Highly suggest this fork if on a tighter budget!

[dirtbyte]

I installed this fork on my 2011 T1 and it totally transformed my bike. Highly suggest this fork if on a tighter budget!

I assume you are talking about the "Marzocchi TST2", because the "XC28tk" appears to be basically the same thing as what comes with the bike. I would not wast the money on the XC28tk because you would be making basically a lateral move.

[GelatiCruiser]

So, I have a 2012 Talon 1 and want to replace the fork. Found someone with a new Rock Shox XC28tk 29er. Will this work? I see some places that this has the 9mm QR. I think my bike has 15mm front axel, but not sure about whether or not this would fit.

Any thoughts to help a newb?

What's your budget? You could find something a lot nicer than the 28tk for a little over the same price. Or you could get an air for with rebound damping and lockout through the Suntour upgrade program for $175. Let us know your budget and we can point you in the right direction.

[Dealwagon]

Well. I found one locally for $70. Never installed. Looking at selling the stock one for like $30 and only being out $40. Seems worth it to me.

[dirtbyte]

Looking at selling the stock one for like $30

Good luck with that! Had mine up on CL for awhile and no hits. There is pretty much no market for them. You may be lucky to get $5 for it. Seriously. You would be better to save your money until you can get a better one (air based) or if the $40 is burning a hole in your wallet, then convert to tubeless (I did the Ghetto tubeless conversion for just about exactly 40 bucks). Being able to run lower PSI will give you a little more squish, better traction and no more flats! But seriously, I really think even if it was zero cost, I would not bother with that fork, "but that's just like my opinion you know man".

[DiRt DeViL]

I gave one of my Suntour away (the other is on the Reba box waiting to see what happens to it), no one will pay for that boat anchor and the 28tk is about the same POS.

If your budget is real tight check the loyalty program, there you can get a nice air sprung fork if you don't mind riding Suntour equipment.

[GelatiCruiser]

would not bother with that fork, "but that's just like my opinion you know man".

+rep when I get to my computer. Lol

[DesertGiant]

I just picked up a rock Shox Recon Gold tk for $249 from Cross Lake Sales. Might be worth looking into.

This seems like a good deal. Would this fit my bike? 2012 giant talon 2 29er.

[GelatiCruiser]

This seems like a good deal. Would this fit my bike? 2012 giant talon 2 29er.

Exact same bike I have.

[chemical_brother]

After doing a little more research and talking to my LBS, I'm going to sell the talon and just buy a better 29er. Looking at the giant xtc 29er 2 right now. Better components all the way around and lighter weight. My budget is around $1500.

I'm in the same situation as well, with the exact same models at hand. I already flipped the stem on the Talon for a more aggressive stance, and was thinking about upgrading the wheels and shock, but for the price I feel it's better to just go for the XTC and upgrade those SXC2's from there. How much are you going to sell the Talon for?

[Shakester]

After doing a little more research and talking to my LBS, I'm going to sell the talon and just buy a better 29er. Looking at the giant xtc 29er 2 right now. Better components all the way around and lighter weight. My budget is around $1500.

The good news is, a new XTC 29er 2 is around $1400 which fits into your budget. The bad news is, the components aren't that much of an upgrade from the Talon. I love Giant bikes, but you may want to look into a Specialized Hardrock Pro 29 which retails for $1300.00 and has some nice parts on there.

[DesertGiant]

The good news is, a new XTC 29er 2 is around $1400 which fits into your budget. The bad news is, the components aren't that much of an upgrade from the Talon. I love Giant bikes, but you may want to look into a Specialized Hardrock Pro 29 which retails for $1300.00 and has some nice parts on there.

Thanks for the input, I will check it out!

[DesertGiant]

I'm in the same situation as well, with the exact same models at hand. I already flipped the stem on the Talon for a more aggressive stance, and was thinking about upgrading the wheels and shock, but for the price I feel it's better to just go for the XTC and upgrade those SXC2's from there. How much are you going to sell the Talon for?

I was going to list it for $500 and hope to get $450 for it. It's still in great shape. I'm going look at the XTC 29er 2 and the Specialized Hardrock Pro and see which I like better. Let me know what you decide to do with your Talon.

I wish I had known more about mountain bikes before buying the entry level Talon 2. I may have ponied up the cash for something a little better.

[hordeton]

Has anyone here with a Talon 2 upgraded the discs from the mediocre Tektro mechanicals to some nicer hydros? I am scouting out the best upgrade in the $150-$200 range. I'm leaning pretty heavily towards the Shimano Deore m596s which can be found without rotors for around $130-$150. I suppose I could use the Tektro rotors with the Shimanos? I'd love to know what other people are using

[DiRt DeViL]

Has anyone here with a Talon 2 upgraded the discs from the mediocre Tektro mechanicals to some nicer hydros? I am scouting out the best upgrade in the $150-$200 range. I'm leaning pretty heavily towards the Shimano Deore m596s which can be found without rotors for around $130-$150. I suppose I could use the Tektro rotors with the Shimanos? I'd love to know what other people are using

With budget in mind check the Shimano SLX, Shimano XT, Formula or Hope; the Shimano Deore will still be better than the mechs but don't have enough power IMO. Having said that I'm still using the Root that came with my Talon 1 and they're enough for what I do.

[WooitsPhillip]

Hey guys,

I just bought myself a 2013 Giant Talon 29er 0. Since they didn't have my size in stock, I had to order and the bike will be available on Wed! Has anyone tried riding the new Talon yet? According to all the reviews that i've read about the bike, I am getting the vibe that the shocks and tires are a problem. Any input on this bike would be appreciated! Thanks!

[DiRt DeViL]

Hey guys,

I just bought myself a 2013 Giant Talon 29er 0. Since they didn't have my size in stock, I had to order and the bike will be available on Wed! Has anyone tried riding the new Talon yet? According to all the reviews that i've read about the bike, I am getting the vibe that the shocks and tires are a problem. Any input on this bike would be appreciated! Thanks!

If you follow this thread you'll notice that year after year the complaints are the same, crappy fork, not so grippy tires and heavy wheels. Keep in mind that the Talon is an entry level bike and as most entry level bikes some parts aren't that good or light.

The bike is great, handles well and after several upgrades resulting in weight loss is a fun bike to ride.

[fishwrinkle]

^^^yeah that. i bought my '12 T1 in july and the only thing left stock is the RD, shifter and cassette. soon it will be gone and replaced with XT components. right now im running 1x8 so picking up 2 more gears with a better ratio is gunna kick a$$. this bike is truly fun to ride once certain components are swapped. start with fork, tires & cockpit. ive got the weight down to 26lbs on a large, thats 6lbs total loss. have fun.

[WooitsPhillip]

very nice! I think I'm just going to start riding it and see for myself. I paid $940 on the bike, which came with a camel bag, helmet and some replacement tubes. I thought that was a good deal for a entry level bike. I'll give it about a month or 2 before I decide to change anything out. The only component I'm really worried about is the forks, which everyone has been complaining about.

[fishwrinkle]

thats a nice grab there WIP. i paid 925 out the door for just the bike! yeah its def worth riding awhile then making upgrades.