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    Quote Originally Posted by r1enthusiast View Post
    wondering about rotor size, i got the talon 1 as well and the brake noise is horrendous. I decided to upgrade to windcutters but I see that people go bigger in the front. What is the pro's con's to this.
    Pros- The larger rotor gives more stopping power and won't heat up as quickly

    Cons- Increased weight, need to purchase mounting brackets.


    If you are doing a lot of downhill then a larger rotor may make sense for you. If you are doing mostly XC with some downhill I would stay with the 160 size. Although with the Windcutters I accidently just ordered the wrong size on price point. So I can tell you if you go larger on the front to 180mm you will drop 10 grams from the stock rotors, if you do the 160mm you save 30 grams over stock. The choice is yours. I upgraded my brakes to Hayes Stroker Trails and it really helped. If you are looking for more braking power would look to replacing your brakes first then the rotor size. Hope this helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Get a white Selle Italia ProLink or SLR gel flow.
    I purchased a Sette Rez Ti saddle and it saved about 130 grams over stock and looks much nicer, however I found the stock seat more comfortable. Now I'm wishing I would have just went for the Italia or WTB Devo although it would have cost twice as much. Buy cheap, buy twice I haven't ridden with my padded shorts yet though, which I'm sure it will be fine with so I'll probably keep it a while.

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    I don't mean to post whore it up, but here's what I purchased recently for the Talon. I have the front brake installed but I ordered one of the rotors in the wrong size so the rears are still waiting in the box for my rear windcutter rotor to come. The Hayes feel great when I got them heated up on a ride last night, however they are still scrubbing in and aren't up to full performance yet.





    I do have one question though, my brake pads lightly rub my rotor on the front. Is this normal? I know my brake caliper is properly centered, and i properly torqued down my rotor with my torque wrench in the correct star pattern. I read in the directions about removing the caliper and pushing back the pistons, should I do this or just let them wear in? I mean the wheel still spins normally when the front tire is lifted of the ground, however i know there is a little friction there. Let me know your input, thanks!

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    That's my concern with the Charge saddle, you get what you pay for. Used a Ritchey Veem Marathon for a while (my roadie still has it) and is on the hard side when compared to the ProLink that my son has or the Rocket V that I use.

    The padding on the shorts helps but is not a cushion.

    Invest on a good saddle, it's a key component.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joes Rocket View Post
    I do have one question though, my brake pads lightly rub my rotor on the front. Is this normal? I know my brake caliper is properly centered, and i properly torqued down my rotor with my torque wrench in the correct star pattern. I read in the directions about removing the caliper and pushing back the pistons, should I do this or just let them wear in? I mean the wheel still spins normally when the front tire is lifted of the ground, however i know there is a little friction there. Let me know your input, thanks!
    What I do is push the pistons all the way back and before fully tightening the caliper will press the lever to center the caliper and with the lever pressed tighten the bolts; new pads will always rub a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    What I do is push the pistons all the way back and before fully tightening the caliper will press the lever to center the caliper and with the lever pressed tighten the bolts; new pads will always rub a little.
    Thanks! That helps. I think I will try pushing the pistons back and doing it again. I did mount them the way above, but didn't push back the pistons first. My rubbing is very slight, but you can hear it when you ride. I'll update when I get home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joes Rocket View Post
    Pros- The larger rotor gives more stopping power and won't heat up as quickly

    Cons- Increased weight, need to purchase mounting brackets.


    If you are doing a lot of downhill then a larger rotor may make sense for you. If you are doing mostly XC with some downhill I would stay with the 160 size. Although with the Windcutters I accidently just ordered the wrong size on price point. So I can tell you if you go larger on the front to 180mm you will drop 10 grams from the stock rotors, if you do the 160mm you save 30 grams over stock. The choice is yours. I upgraded my brakes to Hayes Stroker Trails and it really helped. If you are looking for more braking power would look to replacing your brakes first then the rotor size. Hope this helps!
    awesome, Yea I only do xc with a little downhill on mine. Makes sense on why people go bigger but why 180 in the front and 160 in the back. I would think you would want equal stopping power all around

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    Yeah I accidently bought 160/180 because that's all they had so I assumed it was standard. I talked to my friend who's a tech at the LBS and he explained it to me. I took the weights on a digi scale though so they are accurate. Even though I had the larger rotors I just bought the rear 140 rotor instead of the adapters to fit the calipers with the larger rotors. I may eventually go to the larger rotors if I don't feel like this is too much brake with my setup. I'm used to riding a sport bike (08 CBR600RR) so I was spoiled and I wanted great modulation and too much power. I'll update when I get them both set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joes Rocket View Post
    Yeah I accidently bought 160/180 because that's all they had so I assumed it was standard. I talked to my friend who's a tech at the LBS and he explained it to me. I took the weights on a digi scale though so they are accurate. Even though I had the larger rotors I just bought the rear 140 rotor instead of the adapters to fit the calipers with the larger rotors. I may eventually go to the larger rotors if I don't feel like this is too much brake with my setup. I'm used to riding a sport bike (08 CBR600RR) so I was spoiled and I wanted great modulation and too much power. I'll update when I get them both set up.
    Yea I did some research as well, looks like you get better stopping power with the 180 in the front and 160 in the rear. I think its mostly for downhill but i am still reading. believe me i feel your pain 04 R1 but on a good hill it makes you smile just as much

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    The reason is that the front brake is the one that does most of the work and that's why makes sense to have a bigger rotor if you want more stopping power. The rear is more for control than stopping and that's why weight weenies go with 140mm rotors on the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1enthusiast View Post
    Yea I did some research as well, looks like you get better stopping power with the 180 in the front and 160 in the rear. I think its mostly for downhill but i am still reading. believe me i feel your pain 04 R1 but on a good hill it makes you smile just as much
    I hear ya. I just sold my motorcycle last month because the mountain bike could give me the same smiles (well almost), however the sport bike just begs you to do illegal things to get those smiles. So I sold it to get a boat and figured I would get my two wheel thrills off road for now. My brakes will be perfect when I can roll a stoppie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joes Rocket View Post
    I hear ya. I just sold my motorcycle last month because the mountain bike could give me the same smiles (well almost), however the sport bike just begs you to do illegal things to get those smiles. So I sold it to get a boat and figured I would get my two wheel thrills off road for now. My brakes will be perfect when I can roll a stoppie
    +1 to that, I always said ill just do a little over the speed limit....140 mph later I had to make a decision. Now all I worry about is big rocks lol

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    Yeah, the sportbike was awesome, but once you hit 50 it would just start getting on the pipe and starting to make power and it just would beg for more haha. There was just something about hitting 7k rpm and hearing those second injectors kick in, it would make the hair stand up on your neck.

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    After 1 ride with the Reba can honestly say that is a lot better than the Radion, tracks better and doesn't transmit a lot of vibration to the handlebar but didn't felt as nice as the Zocchi 44 TST2, that could be due to break in or the need to further adjust.

    You Reba RLT riders could you please share your settings? Tried the suggested +/- psi's (135), the flood gate is almost open and found it too harsh. My weight is 200 btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    After 1 ride with the Reba can honestly say that is a lot better than the Radion, tracks better and doesn't transmit a lot of vibration to the handlebar but didn't felt as nice as the Zocchi 44 TST2, that could be due to break in or the need to further adjust.

    You Reba RLT riders could you please share your settings? Tried the suggested +/- psi's (135), the flood gate is almost open and found it too harsh. My weight is 200 btw.
    The suggested numbers did not work for me at all. WAY too stiff. I weigh 140 and with gear am probably around 150. Currently running 90+ 80- with the Floodgate all the way open. Probably still have a little tweaking to do, but so far that is working great for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    The suggested numbers did not work for me at all. WAY too stiff. I weigh 140 and with gear am probably around 150. Currently running 90+ 80- with the Floodgate all the way open. Probably still have a little tweaking to do, but so far that is working great for me.
    Good to hear, was having buyers remorse with this fork. Will use your ratio as a baseline for further testing/adjusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Good to hear, was having buyers remorse with this fork. Will use your ratio as a baseline for further testing/adjusting.
    I also found quite a bit of good information in this thread: Reba fine tuning - I think with a little tweaking you will get it to where you like it.

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    would the SLX 2x9 cranks, SH-FCM665, work on a 2x9 or 2x8 ghetto conversion?

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    Dennis, the Floodgate opens clock wise or counter clock wise?

    The documentation from RS sucks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosbik View Post
    would the SLX 2x9 cranks, SH-FCM665, work on a 2x9 or 2x8 ghetto conversion?
    They should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Dennis, the Floodgate opens clock wise or counter clock wise?

    The documentation from RS sucks!!!
    it opens Counter Clockwise. So if you move it all the way clockwise and move the blue compression know back counter clockwise you should notice that it is fully (mostly) locked out. If you then leave the compression locked out and move the floodgate fully counter clockwise you should basically now have no lockout (because the floodgate is wide open).

    Hope this helps! I am running about 15-16 clicks from wide open (and rarely lockout the fork when riding).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    They should.
    thanks!..wont ther be chain issues or shifting issues any one can think of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosbik View Post
    thanks!..wont ther be chain issues or shifting issues any one can think of?
    It depends. If you currently have an 8 speed setup and get a 9 speed crank, then you will probably want to get a 9 speed chain (should work fine with the other 8 speed components). As for shifting issues, you will just need to adjust the limit screws (probably just the upper limit screw) so that you are not able to attempt to shift to the big ring that is no longer there. I did this on my talon and it works fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    It depends. If you currently have an 8 speed setup and get a 9 speed crank, then you will probably want to get a 9 speed chain (should work fine with the other 8 speed components). As for shifting issues, you will just need to adjust the limit screws (probably just the upper limit screw) so that you are not able to attempt to shift to the big ring that is no longer there. I did this on my talon and it works fine.
    Listen to Dennis, he knows this stuff.

    Be careful with the SLX 2 ring cranks, some are specifically for 10 speeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Listen to Dennis, he knows this stuff.

    Be careful with the SLX 2 ring cranks, some are specifically for 10 speeds.
    Aw, thanks

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    I'm a new MTB owner with a Talon 29er 0 (as of late June). I've made a few mods and have Maxxis tires on the way. Those Kenda SB8's that come with it are NOT confidence inspiring (2 crashes later). I run through a trail that has sandy sections in it, and with the midwest drought it's even sandier at times.

    I'm posting some pics as suggested and included a pic of the PVC stand I build to house the bike when not in use. I weighted the stand with sand and spray painted it black. Holds all of my gear. It was a fun project.




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    Quote Originally Posted by cbhiii View Post
    I'm a new MTB owner with a Talon 29er 0 (as of late June). I've made a few mods and have Maxxis tires on the way. Those Kenda SB8's that come with it are NOT confidence inspiring (2 crashes later). I run through a trail that has sandy sections in it, and with the midwest drought it's even sandier at times.

    I'm posting some pics as suggested and included a pic of the PVC stand I build to house the bike when not in use. I weighted the stand with sand and spray painted it black. Holds all of my gear. It was a fun project.



    Great freakin idea!!! Got me thinkin... thanks for sharing!

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    I love the stand, that's awesome. Looks like I have a new project this week!

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    Yeah it occurred to me that I needed something soon after I got the bike. Version 1 didn't have the pipes going up that hold my gear which was no problem since I hadn't glued it together yet. So version 2 included that and pegs for my shoes. I'll send another pic or two of just the rack when I'm back home to help clarify the design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbhiii View Post
    Yeah it occurred to me that I needed something soon after I got the bike. Version 1 didn't have the pipes going up that hold my gear which was no problem since I hadn't glued it together yet. So version 2 included that and pegs for my shoes. I'll send another pic or two of just the rack when I'm back home to help clarify the design.
    Thanks. I will be waiting for that, as I plan on building this! I needed something exactly like that, and just never got around to putting any thought into it!

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    Looks like I can't post links to this forum until I have 10 post replies...

    PM me. I'll give you a link.

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    nice talon guys! this is mine, stock

    btw its for sale
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Listen to Dennis, he knows this stuff.

    Be careful with the SLX 2 ring cranks, some are specifically for 10 speeds.
    hehehe...i always listen to you guys..
    well I am going to get a used 2x9 slx crank...may need a bashring though...got overshifting issues so getting a bbg

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    I also found quite a bit of good information in this thread: Reba fine tuning - I think with a little tweaking you will get it to where you like it.
    That thread is so long that is hard to find what I'm looking for, found this on the Service section of the Rock Shox page; hope this help us fine tune it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    That thread is so long that is hard to find what I'm looking for, found this on the Service section of the Rock Shox page; hope this help us fine tune it.
    Sweet find! Thanks for sharing.

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    Following the recommendations on the last page set mine 110+ 120- with the floodgate almost wide open at 20% sag, will see tomorrow how it does.

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    I posted my PVC stand to a different thread with some new pics if interested:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL View Post
    Following the recommendations on the last page set mine 110+ 120- with the floodgate almost wide open at 20% sag, will see tomorrow how it does.
    HUGE!!! difference from how it felt las week, we just did the Shindagin Shindig Jam, the place is packed with roots and rocks and the fork performed great, a little more tweaking and should be sweet.

    My kid after the first run

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    does anyone here has the 2013 talons already?

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    Ya, I just got mine in last Friday. It's a 2013 Giant Talon 29er 0 XL

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/aK4WWxriGuY2UARQa1rYgx2O9JfogtDmPjgFNB_KiVg?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--_eZikYrpo0/UFFtn9GQIcI/AAAAAAAAABw/EGmaI4a56nY/s800/IMG_0132.JPG" height="600" width="800" /></a>

    I had originally ordered a 2012 Talon 0 but they ran out of stock before the order was put in by the shop but after I put a deposit down. As a result, I was offered this one for a little more and I decided to go for it.

    I like the remote lockout that is not mentioned in the Giant Specs page. I preferred the color scheme of the 2012's but I like the semi-gloss of this finish. I had to replace the stock seat with my relatively new and better fitting WTB Pure V. I may replace the grips with my Ergon GP-1 L grips from my older bike but I'm going to try stock for a while longer before I do. Overall it's a better fit for me but I have yet to really test it. My only experience so far has been 30 miles or so of riding on asphalt. I'll be taking it to the trails tomorrow.

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    Neutrino, how do you like the Pure V?

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    I got the Pure V on my Talon and its real nice. IMO, Its still a small seat, but has enough cushion to make your rides more enjoyable. I'm a big dude and I've been riding on that seat since Spring.

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    2012 Talon 2 with charge spoon saddle, race face ride stem, Easton EA 70 bars, Reba RL QR, ODI rogue grips


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    Here I am with my bike. I just added the hayes stroker trail brakes in white of course along with the alligator wind cutter rotors. I upgraded the front rotor size to 180mm so i could easily modulate stoppies, and it made a HUGE difference. Now the strokers really shine. I kept the 160mm on the rear. I need to start playing with the tuning on my Reba RLT, I've had it about a month and a half now and I love it. The sette seat dropped a lot of grams as well, however it isn't too comfortable and I don't think I will stick with it too long. It's a pity though because its so light and the white and black complements the bike well. It isn't too bad with padded shorts on though. Anyways, on with the pics:









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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawnk386 View Post
    2012 Talon 2 with charge spoon saddle, race face ride stem, Easton EA 70 bars, Reba RL QR, ODI rogue grips

    did you remove the big chainring and installed a bash?

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    [QUOTE=Joes Rocket;9695470]Here I am with my bike. The sette seat dropped a lot of grams as well, however it isn't too comfortable and I don't think I will stick with it too long. It's a pity though because its so light and the white and black complements the bike well. It isn't too bad with padded shorts on though.

    I cut the quote down to just the seat part.
    You have most likely learned already that these seats are intended/designed to be used with "padded shorts" =chamos. Don't give up your very nice saddle. Get a couple good pair of "padded shorts". Enjoy.

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    2012 talon 1

    i had my doubts about selecting this bike as i was lusting for an air9 from jenson. couple reasons i opted out were, LBS needs $ more than jenson & the talon 1 was 1/2 the price. im an impulse buyer but had done extensive research. i now am on the look out for a DH/FR, maybe a glory? i like the frame alot, tires are good for hardpack/pavement, the drivetrain sucks, elixers are ok, avid rotors blow as well as the spaghetti like fork. whew! but thats me being picky. all in all its a great step in the right direction. i would have got the 0, but they didnt have my size and after walking 3 miles in +100* i was def riding something home.

    bought july 3 12

    changes are:
    pedals-atomlab pimplite wrx- feckin love em w/ some sticky shoes
    post-RF ride- not an upgrade but trying to strip some giant badges. think i counted 23 on bike!
    saddle-charge spoon- comfy and cheap $27
    spacers- bling factor
    stem- nukeproof warhead 50mm
    bars- nuke proof warhead 760's cut to 720mm- this length bar with short stem = touchy steering, less forgiving but sooooo much better for me
    grips- yeti- love em as they are thick, chunky, & super sticky. cant beat em for $24 oh and 2 lock rings per
    sram 8spd powerlink chain- these arent made for my abuse. burned one up in 8 wks.

    near future:
    gravity dropper classic
    panaracer FireXC Pro
    azonic convertible 20x110 front hub
    manitou tower pro 120mm 20mm axle
    Shimano Deore M590 Triple Chainset
    mrp lrp chainguide & tensioner
    x9 or x0 deraileurs
    180mm front 160mm rear rotors & brakes to be determined
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    one more that didnt make the first cut.

    edit: can someone plz tell me how to post a pic to be able to show what i want. i went w/ a 1024x1024 crop. im new to mac and picasa is what i used on pc.
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    Bought a 2012 Talon 1 for $675 +tax. Great bike. What are the clear stickers in with the owners manual?

    Will post pics when I have enough posts

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    Is the '12 Talon 1 a better bike than the '13 Spec Hardrock sport disc 29? I dont know enough about the components to compare.

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    Bought my first real mtb recently, a 2012 Talon 29er 1. Before I was riding a Giant Roam 1 for recreation. I love the Talon so far! I can't wait to get it all dirty!


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    those are scratch guards for cable rubs or the like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joes Rocket View Post
    Here I am with my bike. The sette seat dropped a lot of grams as well, however it isn't too comfortable and I don't think I will stick with it too long. It's a pity though because its so light and the white and black complements the bike well. It isn't too bad with padded shorts on though.

    I cut the quote down to just the seat part.
    You have most likely learned already that these seats are intended/designed to be used with "padded shorts" =chamos. Don't give up your very nice saddle. Get a couple good pair of "padded shorts". Enjoy.

    Thanks for the input. I do have a few pairs of some chamois shorts, and it is fine to ride with them. I still feel like it should be shaped a little better or wider for my behind though. However this is my first seat that is that nice, so maybe its just an adjustment.


    Someone else had commented asking about removing the 3rd chain wheels and putting a bash guard on. This is how I bought my bike (i got it a year old barely used). When I am on the trails I never miss the 3rd gear, but when I ride around the neighborhoods I could use them. That being said when I upgrade my drivetrain I am going to go with 2x10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamadam1122 View Post
    Is the '12 Talon 1 a better bike than the '13 Spec Hardrock sport disc 29? I dont know enough about the components to compare.
    Being lazy, please post the specs so we can compare.

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    My new (to me) 2011 Talon 1. Bought it about a month ago used but mint (had to remove the reflectors).

    I've already put about 100 miles on it doing some singletrack commuting to work. It is still stock, except for the seat and pedals.

    The photo was from a rest area on my commute home last night.

    My thoughts so far on my first 29er:
    +'s : climbs well, stable on downhills, no loss of maneuverability over my 26" Giant Trance, relaxed geometry, brakes are quiet and responsive, great price

    -'s: That fork sucks... I mean really sucks. A little heavy (see #1). Tires are slip dip ippidty.

    All in all, I'm very happy with my purchase. I went into it knowing full well that I would probably have to upgrade the fork...I held out hope that I am fairly light so I wouldn't be pushing its limits, but alas, I will have to upgrade the fork. I'm also looking for lighter rims and will go tubeless.

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    Does anyone have this fork on their Talon? Just seeing what decent forks are available in case I need to upgrade in the future.

    Manitou Tower Expert 29er Forks Reviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiveSEVEN View Post
    Does anyone have this fork on their Talon? Just seeing what decent forks are available in case I need to upgrade in the future.

    Manitou Tower Expert 29er Forks Reviews
    You'll find many Manitou haters around this parts, in my case I have mixed results with their products on the 26" arena, no experience with their 29" products so far.

    Seems to be a decent fork for the money if you have a Talon with QR9, many of us have QR15 which makes the fork choices a lot more limited and the usual options are from Marzocchi (44 TST), Fox (F29) and Rock Shox (Reba).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiveSEVEN View Post
    Does anyone have this fork on their Talon? Just seeing what decent forks are available in case I need to upgrade in the future.

    Manitou Tower Expert 29er Forks Reviews
    i'd go for the pro instead. Manitou Tower Pro 29 Fork 2011 > Components > Forks > Suspension Forks | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop customer service is very good despite ppl's opinions here. now you might not be a clydesdale but you can get good info here: Manitou Tower Pro Fork for Clydesdales - Techical. if you do decide you want to go with this fork you will need a new hub of 110mm to accomodate that 20mm thru axle. look at this one it is a convertible Universal Cycles -- Azonic Recoil Front Disc Hub. now just figure lacing it in at around $50. so for $455 you've got a good stiff front end cause that wet noodle it came with sucks. the rear hubs fail quickly on the talon 1. i'm on 3rd one. ive also gone through 2 chains. ive over 900 miles of hard trail riding though. i'd stay away from fox though as you must send them in to be serviced, such as re-build kit. $100 and out a fork while they fix. scammers they should stay w/ MX
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    Quote Originally Posted by noreasterbackcountry View Post
    I'm also looking for lighter rims and will go tubeless.
    Stock rims weigh ~525g and can be converted to tubeless with just gorilla tape and stans. Eventually I'll replace mine, but they've been quite durable over 2 seasons.

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    Wheels are on the heavy side but so far have been durable on both of our Talons, the older one the only wheel related issue so far has been a broken spoke.

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    Ok, so just for clarification... the 2012 talon 1 has a 9mm QR front axle, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj_desmit View Post
    Ok, so just for clarification... the 2012 talon 1 has a 9mm QR front axle, correct?
    That is what it looks like from the specs on the Giant website: Talon 29er 1- 2011 (2010) - Bikes | Giant Bicycles | United States although they do not specifically mention it (like they did for the 15mm thru axle).

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    Yah, I checked the specs as well and didn't really get a clear answer. I have the stock, junk suntour fork at the moment and am looking to upgrade. The forks stanchions where the axle goes through is open on the bottom, I believe that's characteristic of a 9mm QR, right?

    If I do indeed have a 9mm QR it looks as if I'm going to need a new hub as I'm looking at getting either a Marz 44 TST2 (15QR) or a Manitou Tower Pro (20mm thru). I've haven't seen any forks with a 9QR besides the Reba...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj_desmit View Post
    Yah, I checked the specs as well and didn't really get a clear answer. I have the stock, junk suntour fork at the moment and am looking to upgrade. The forks stanchions where the axle goes through is open on the bottom, I believe that's characteristic of a 9mm QR, right?

    If I do indeed have a 9mm QR it looks as if I'm going to need a new hub as I'm looking at getting either a Marz 44 TST2 (15QR) or a Manitou Tower Pro (20mm thru). I've haven't seen any forks with a 9QR besides the Reba...
    Yes, if the fork is open at the bottom it is 9mm QR. If you post a picture I can confirm for you for sure. There should be a lot of forks out there with 9mm QR. Because when I was looking for a new one for my 2011 Talon (has 15mm QR) I actually had a hard time finding one, because most of them were 9mm (and they were cheaper!)

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    Everything I have seen either has a 15 or 20mm axle OR a tapered steerer...

    However, I just came across a Manitou Tower Pro that supposedly comes with a 9mm QR (I called and asked customer service). The thing is, the fork is priced at $372 vs Jensons's $329 for the same fork only with a 20mm thru. So my question is now, do I pay the extra $40 to get the one that will bolt right up (9mm QR) or do I buy the one for $329 and spend the extra money ($120+) to get a 20mm axle?

    Basically, is the 20mm axle worth the extra money?

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    Fox, Rock Shox and Manitou make QR9 forks.

    A bigger axle will make for a stronger front end so if you can expend extra by swapping hubs and relacing wheels go for it.

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    go with the manitou pro w/ 20mm and you'll never regret it. mine is on the way. of course you need a new hub and get it laced but well worth it IMHO.

    oh CJ, yes, 9mm on '12 model.

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    Alright thanks for the help guys. I just pulled the trigger on a like-new Manitou Tower Pro with the 20mm thru axle for $275 shipped. I'm looking forward to seeing how big of an improvement it is over the junk suntour!

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    CJ, where did u find for $275, ebay?

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    I found it in the classifieds on pinkbike.com...

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    Another question... As I'm looking for a new front hub I see there are different lengths as well as the actual axle diameter. I know I need a 20mm, 32 hole hub but what about the length (100mm, 110mm, 135mm, ect)?

    Thanks.

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    Could be wrong but the front hub size should be 100mm, just make sure that it has the correct amount of holes. Check the fork specks and the Sheldon Brown link that I gave you before.

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    Just pulled the trigger on the Rockshox Reba RLT Dual Air 100mm to replace the Suntour. Decent deal on Amazon right now for the one with the QR15 axle. Specs didn't indicate it was 1 1/8" straight steerer tube but checked the listed model number ( 00.4016.065.030) with the manufacturer and confirmed that it was not the tapered steerer.FYI: Rockshox rep explained that purchasing through Amazon may negate the warranty given their difficulty in tracing the source.

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    Is this a pretty good deal for a Rockshox Reba?

    BlueSkyCycling.com - 2011 Rock Shox Reba RLT Dual Air Fork 29er OE
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    I am looking at getting a 2011 Talon 1 29er for $600 she is in perfect shape and had just been serviced at the dealer. What do you all think. I am just leery about the shock

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    You are at the WRONG place for an unbiased opinion. With that said, $600 is a fair price.

    Just know that you WILL want to replace that fork unless you ride on pavement and very smooth trails. The 2011 Talon has a QR15 hub which is harder to find than 9mm, and thus leads to more expensive options. Expect to pay around $400 for a decent fork upgrade.

    Note that you can get a lesser brand bike with better components for the $1000 that you would pay for the Talon plus a fork upgrade (e.g. Sette 29er with X7, Avid Elixir 1, Rockshox Recon Silver fork. 3x10 is $999 right now).

    I chose Giant because I've never had an issue with the quality of their frames.

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    CJ, a 20mm axle will need a 110mm hub. just get a convertible hub and you could fit a 9mm, 15mm, or a 20mm on any wheel/fork combo. hope and azonic are two hubs that come to mind

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    They switched to 9mm on the 2012 correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamadam1122 View Post
    They switched to 9mm on the 2012 correct?
    Yes, that what's on my Talon 0.

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    Sorry for still being a noob, reading all these posts and just wanted to clarify that the 2011 Talon 1 has a 15mm QR and my 2012 Talon 1 has a 9mm? If that is the case can anyone recommend a good fork from bluesky? My budget is around $375ish. I just want to be able to buy a fork and get it installed without buying anything else. Thanks for all the help!

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    Here is an option... Little more than your budget, but great fork... Amazon.com: RockShox Reba RL - Dual Air 100mm 29-Inch 9mm (White): Sports & Outdoors

    Edit: Just noticed it is cheaper at blue sky....

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    Thanks Dennis! This the same fork just the 2011 version I assume?

    BlueSkyCycling.com - 2011 Rock Shox Reba RLT Dual Air Fork 29er OE


    Quote Originally Posted by mtbdennis View Post
    Here is an option... Little more than your budget, but great fork... Amazon.com: RockShox Reba RL - Dual Air 100mm 29-Inch 9mm (White): Sports & Outdoors

    Edit: Just noticed it is cheaper at blue sky....
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    That's the OE version of the same fork, same features different color.

    After some tweaking the fork is a nice one.


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    Nice ride Dirt Devil!
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    Well I got my new fork in today (Tower Pro) and am crazy anxious to get it installed, however I am still in need of a 20mm front axle. I called my LBS and they said to have the wheel rebuilt onto a new axle with new spokes would cost $100. Thats not inlcuding the hub itself which would be about another $70 as I was considering the Azonic that was posted earlier in a link. So, now instead of spending $170 on just a new axle, I'm considering just splurging and getting a new wheelset...

    I've been looking at wheels and would like to keep it under $350 for the set (with hubs, spokes, ect). I know I need a 20x110 front hub, but now I'm wondering what the Talons (2012) rear hub is? If I was to guess, I'd say it's a 9x135 QR but I can't find anything to confirm that as it doesn't say anything on Giant's website.

    Does anyone know what size the rear axle is? And has anyone upgraded their wheels? If so, what did you go with?

    Thanks.

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    Your guess is correct, 9x135.

    The quality or weight will drive the price up, Mavic or Stan's aren't cheap but if you search hard and good enough you may find a good set at a great price; have you considered just a new front wheel.

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    I haven't really considered just a new front. I suppose that is an option though...

    I have my eye on these right now: SunRingle Black Flag Expert 29 - Demo - Hammerheadbikes.com. Any opinions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj_desmit View Post
    I haven't really considered just a new front. I suppose that is an option though...

    I have my eye on these right now: SunRingle Black Flag Expert 29 - Demo - Hammerheadbikes.com. Any opinions?
    Not enough info there to sell them to me, there's one review here and the guy swears by them. Previous experience with SunRingle was good and the price is good.

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    Yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about SunRingle rims. I just wish they were the Chargers over the Black Flags as I'd really like an AM wheelset. The BF's are geared towards XC/Trail riding I believe...

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    Here is a really cheap option on a decent wheelset: WTB Frequency i19 TCS XT Wheelset - 20mm Thru - Hammerheadbikes.com

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    I saw those as well... Any experience with them?

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    I haven't, but they seem like a nice alternative to the the stockers. And that price is very cheap.

    Here is a link to someone who built up a wheelset with the rims: WTB Frequency i19 29 wheel build review

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    Thanks for the link. The only thing keeping me from picking those wheels up is the 19mm inner rim width. I'd really like a wider wheel, especially for the front. I wish they had a killer deal like that on the i23's...

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    I'd shell out the extra coin and get these:

    Stan's NoTubes ZTR Arch EX 29er Wheelset from Bike Bling

    Light, strong, wide, reliable, fair price.

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    Woops, the standard Arch EX hub won't convert to 20mm. The Flow EX hub will.

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    Definitely Flow Ex. I wanted to get the set badly but i could only afford it. I just got a new front wheel to make my new fork work. But those wheels are definitely on my wish list. I was able to score a PCX-2 15MM through a LBS and made my 120mm Tower Pro work. I wanted a thru axle to provide more stiffness and i got exactly that. My Tower Pro is such an upgrade compared to the suntour it originally came with. I'm actually still sporting the original pedals lol. I have some decent flats coming in the mail tomorrow though. Now time to score some 5'10s.

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    Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I came across a set of SunRingle Chargers for a decent price, but am not sure they'll work... Here's a link to the description: Sun Ringle 29" AM Charger Comp 9/15/20 Black | eBay

    Or... possibly these? Sun Ringle 29" XC Black Flag CompWheelset 9/15/20 Black @ eBikeStop.com

    The thing that's making me think they wont work is it says 10x1 for the rear axle type...?
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    My 2012 Talon 0. With my new Schwalbe Hans Dampf's with the Stans No Tubes Tubless conversion kit.
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