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    Both. Mainly on wet roots.
    Is it a good Allround tire? I need something that works for pretty much all conditions as I'm not gonna change tires based on weather or which trails I'm going to.
    I already ride tubeless and ~2bar in the back, I probably can't go much lower than that

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    The Ardent is a good all around without being too aggressive like an enduro/DH tire.
    Can be a bit densily packed crampons to properly release mud (though my friends don't to see much of an issue).

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    Do you have a comparison to the nobby nic? I see that one often used as all-round tire as it has a low rolling resistance and still offers good grip
    So will I be able to put a 2.35 in the back? I found the specifications for the fork and it said up to 2.4 so front no problem but I'm still not sure what to do with the back.

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    I never tried the nn but I know the Ardent 3C has pretty grip nice on wet rocks and roots (we have lots off those around here).
    I don't think there should be an issue with a 2.35 in the back. Just remember to keep more or equal traction in the front, like that if a tire starts slipping it's the rear one which is a lot easier to deal with than the front washing out.
    You can also look at the Forekaster for a front, it's like the Ardent but wider and more open to clear out mud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgticetea View Post
    Both. Mainly on wet roots.
    I need something that works for pretty much all conditions as I'm not gonna change tires based on weather or which trails I'm going to.
    I already ride tubeless and ~2bar in the back, I probably can't go much lower than that
    2 bar (=29PSI) is quite a lot of pressure unless you're a big guy... I run <1.5 bar (=22PSI) at 68kg (=150lbs).

    Nothing really works on wet roots, other than blind faith and a good sense of balance...

    The stock tyres are likely the cheapest rubber compound, and be very poor in the wet.

    I've never got on with the 2.25 Ardent (I thought they were dangerous in the wet), but apparently the 2.4 is a different tyre (and comes up small against it's specified size).

    Good all-round tyres are 2.3" WTB Vigilantes or Maxxis Minion DHF. I run the WTBs on my Talon and they are great for most everything. I run the Minions on another bike, and they are very similar.

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    Yeah I've read a test saying the Ardent isn't really good in the wet.

    I run 2 bar because I'm ~90kg with gear. I could probably try to go a bit lower but I don't want to destroy the rim.

    The Vigilantes look good but they are heavy and probably overkill. Also I ride at least 40-50% on road/wide forest paths where I would probably benefit from something lighter/easier rolling. As an example, the minion dhf has 50 Watts rolling resistance while the Nobby nic has 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgticetea View Post
    Yeah I've read a test saying the Ardent isn't really good in the wet.
    Nope, the dual density Ardents are great when wet. It's rated for wet conditions. Maybe a bit too tightly packed crampons to release the mud but they stick regardless.

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    I've run Racing Ralphs, Thunder Burts, Nobby Nic Evo, Ardent, and Minions of the DHR, DHF and SS varieties on my Talon. I'm back to Nobby Nic Evo's in 2.25" front and rear for spring/fall and change the rear out for a Racing Ralph in the summer when things dry out. It seems to be a darn good combo for my local conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basso4735 View Post
    Said goodbye to my Talon yesterday. Sad day indeed but hopefully it will get a lot of use by the next owner!




    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    If you don't mind, how much did you get for the bike?

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    Got me a new Talon 2 2017...

    My boss got me the Talon 2 2017 from Singapore.
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    The one with the Fox fork is my boss Talon 1 2016. I'm assembling his bike for him.
    The Talon 2 2017 is the red frame. Already strip all the components that comes with it.
    Going to transfer all the component from my old Talon 1 2012.
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    The pictures shows the complete transfer of my old components.Talon owners .....-image-0-02-06-dd18d6f6934fc11f660ebcb7c41a32bebfbb5d753f07c33c8c9c22a1b5da47a8-v.jpg
    Finally decided to reroute the dropper post cable. Gonna try this setup on the trail this coming Sunday. Gonna upgrade the fork and front hub next time.

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