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  1. #1
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    root hydraulic brakes are weak. talon 1 29er

    I have a 4 month old giant talon 1. It came with the root hydraulic brakes and they were great until I tried a buddies avid juicy 3 brakes and wow, what a difference.

    They root brakes cant lock up the front wheel on pavement.

    I have taken the rotor and pads out and sanded them with wet dry paper to see if they were contaminated and then did a bout 30 minutes to fast riding then stopping to try and bed the brakes but they still are quite weak.

    Is it just the brakes? should I get some better pads?
    If I need to bleed the rotors, is there a guide specific to these brakes? and is there a kit that is compatible?


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    My Talon stops very good and I'm riding at 220lbs. Even on the pavement my bike will lock down and slide the back tire. Might even think of larger rotor size ?????

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    The Root's get the job done but are not the greatest, tried the M445's and they're even worse. They don't have great modulation or feel but can stop me.

    Try a 180mm or 203mm rotor to see if it improves.

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    I would point the finger at the rotor size first, pad second. Larger rotor = greater mechanical advantage.

    The Root's have been very good for me, however I could use more front clamping force too. I have been looking to upsize the front rotor. Let us know what you end up with.

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    I have Roots and I don't want to lock up the front wheel on pavement.
    Me. The chosen one. They chose me. And I didn't even graduate from fu**ing high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofannon View Post
    I have Roots and I don't want to lock up the front wheel on pavement.
    <-- Agreed. If the tires are locked up you are not braking efficiently. I would say that I am slightly disappointed in these brakes. But at this price point I am afraid it is what you get!

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