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    Revel Thread

    A thread for the discussion of the Revels, 0's to 4's to 29ers. Modifications, maintenance and information in general.

    I picked up my '13 Revel 3 during black Friday, was trying to get a '12 for cheaper but it just didnt work out. Really liked the white/silver/red and went for it, however saw a silver Revel 1 last week and thought it was pretty sharp too/

    Changing out the handlebar/stem for Easton ec70, and not sure what stem yet. Tires/Saddle/Post are the next mods, and then start saving for a full suspension bike.

    So far iv put close to 40 miles of green/blue trails on it with me being the limiting factor.

    Here she is.

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    Cheers. Also got mine on a black friday sale, 2013 Revel 1 29er. Still has tag, removed reflectors and installed new EggBeaters.

    I would like to lighten mine up and improve performance without killing the bank. I'm looking at Avid BB7s and chinese carbon bars and post. Also deciding between the X-fusion Slide 29er fork or a RS Reba.
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    Mmmm was marvelling a Silver 1 last week at the bike shop. (26")

    I imagine the fork will save some weight over the stock suntour. The 1's come with decent aluminum bars no?

    Im probably going to grab an RS Recon Silver or XC32 in Jan some time, should make for a fun ride.

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    The bars aren't awful but with the heavy frame I'd like to try and squeeze out a lb. or two.

    Recon is a good shock for the $.

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    Im with you on the weight battle. I grabbed the ec70 off of blue sky for what seemed like a great deal.
    BlueSkyCycling.com - Easton EC70 XC Carbon Handlebar 2012

    Since the 3 has steel bars, im hoping its going to be night and day. Still need to grab a stem for it.

    The tires I believe are a non-folding type as well, so there might be some weight to be saved there. I imagine moreso on the 29er.
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    Threw on the bar tonight once the stem came in, luckily the lbs had a 2mm spacer as the stem is shorter. Gonna try to snag some grips tomorrow.

    Raceface Evolve Stem
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    Really nice stem.bar setup, I haven't uesd them but I have only good things of that Easton line of bars.

    Settled on a RockShox Tora TK. My LBS had a new takeoff and it was almost free so I had them put it one. PopLock is nice and it travels well. Definitely shaved at least a lb. Hitting the trail tomorrow after the hangover leaves so I will update with performance. Also havent really used my Cateye Micro yet so looking forward to that.
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    Happy New Year from the top of the Sammamish Plateau. 28 degrees and sunny. Looking West toward Bellevue, Seattle, and the Olympic range.

    Tora felt strong locked out while climbing and very smooth descending.
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    Looks sharp!
    ~28 miles on these the last week.

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    Unless you actually weighed the parts side by side, where do you think you saved more weight between the bars vs. stem? I know the bars are more expensive and likely offer more of a productive improvement as well, I'm curious which is lighter compared to its counterpart.

    I noticed while riding this morning (especially while climbing) I need to look closely at replacing the wheels and tires. Those things were getting bogged down in granny and I was huffing for a bit. Beautiful ride though.

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    Just weighed my old fork and it came in at 5 1/2 lbs.... so I saved about 1 or 1 1/2 lbs. there alone (don't know exactly because it went on before I weighed it, going off online numbers).

    Also just weighed my post and saddle, which it appears you have the same.
    Post: 345 grams
    Saddle: 290 Grams
    Total: 635 Grams

    Hopefully that helps you compare weights as you search for replacements as well.

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    Using a rather crude food scale the stock steel revel bars came in at 600grams. The Easton bars were 160 grams and also a bit wider. A worthwhile mod on the Revel 3. I don't recall the weights of the stem but I remember there being a 25 gram difference. I got the stem for the 4 bolt clamp as opposed to the 2 bolt that it came with, because of the carbon bar.

    The Revel 1 you have probably came with aluminum bars so it prob isn't that much of an improvement. I'm not sure if our tires are folding or not, but if they aren't there is some weight to be saved there, I'd imagine more noticeable as well.

    I might end up on a Trance in a couple weeks rather than continuing upgrading the revel.

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    CrankBrothers Cobalt 2 post in the mail closeout at wheelworld.com from $80 to $30. Listed at 265 grams that will shave some weight.

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    Selle Italia SLR GelFlow, used but like new for $30. Coupled with the post in the mail I should see an overall weight savings of 150 grams. Not terrible for two quality parts for $60 total.
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    Not bad. What tires have you thought about switching to?

    I got out there on a muddy day and the bike wanted to just lay down in corners. Sucked, they are great on hardpack when its dry though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Just weighed my old fork and it came in at 5 1/2 lbs.... so I saved about 1 or 1 1/2 lbs. there alone (don't know exactly because it went on before I weighed it, going off online numbers).

    Also just weighed my post and saddle, which it appears you have the same.
    Post: 345 grams
    Saddle: 290 Grams
    Total: 635 Grams

    Hopefully that helps you compare weights as you search for replacements as well.

    CB Cobalt 2 post arrived. A bit heavier than I anticipated but still an improvement and I couldn't argue with the price. Always satisfied with the performance on CB products. I still might cut an inch or two from the post but undecided.

    Brings total to:
    Post: 315 grams
    Saddle 220 grams
    Total: 535 grams

    Even 100 grams gone and higher end components on both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Happy New Year from the top of the Sammamish Plateau. 28 degrees and sunny. Looking West toward Bellevue, Seattle, and the Olympic range.

    Tora felt strong locked out while climbing and very smooth descending.
    Hey! I used to live on the Sammamish Plateau back in the day. I miss that place sometimes and then I remember all the rain. Ugh.
    I'm a mountain bike guide in southwest Utah

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    Great place to live, mountain to sound in 30 mins either direction. Puget Sound/Western Wa really is one of the most diverse areas in America I believe.

    I hoped the picture would have turned about a bit better but that's what you get with a cell phone pic and the mountain range 100 miles away... It is from atop the Issaquah Highlands development. This area more than likely was not around when you lived here 'back in the day' I think the entire development is no more than 10 years old.

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    Originally the scale I used was inuaccurate (one of the old spring/dial scales) so after getting the post on I thought I would weigh each set as a combo. Results were a bit more suprising.

    Factory Giant Sport Saddle Giant Sport Post 30.9 mm
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    Selle Italia SLR GelFlow and CB Cobalt 2 400 mm 30.9 mm post
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    bars replaced today with Forte Pro Flat 720 mm, saved 165 grams and only cost $22. Next I'm looking at a new crankset and then wheels/tires. Brakes a possibility but that would be last. bike is really coming along and rides fantastic.
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    '13 Revel 29er all stock.

    The weight doesn't bother me so much. The brakes seem to be pretty bad and the front fork is spongy. Getting some bb7's and going to take advantage of the Suntour upgrade program.

    Aside from those complaints, I really like the bike.




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    Hey that bike looks familiar!

    Welcome, its good to see this thread getting a little more attention. I'll do my best to document any additions/comparisons as well as the performance of factory vs. aftermarket parts. I've got a new crankset in the mail to go in Saturday so hopefully I can write up some about that this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Hey that bike looks familiar!

    Welcome, its good to see this thread getting a little more attention. I'll do my best to document any additions/comparisons as well as the performance of factory vs. aftermarket parts. I've got a new crankset in the mail to go in Saturday so hopefully I can write up some about that this weekend.
    That's a great idea.

    I've got about 30 miles on it so far and only have had it a week, and like I said, so far I hate the brakes and the fork is mushy.

    I just bought a pair of bb7 calipers off ebay for $20...my stock Tektro 160 rotors should work, yeah?

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    The fork is trash, that was priority number 1 for me. I wanted something lighter (instead of all steel) and with a lockout. I very nearly pulled the trigger on a X-Fusion Slide 29er fork, about the best value for those criteria, but instead got a great deal on the RS Tora.

    I believe the Avids will do just fine, I want to say they can handle up to 180 mm discs so yours should be fine. I'm interested to see how the install/performance works for you as I am very interested in doing the same.

    where did you find the calipers for $20 do you have a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    The fork is trash, that was priority number 1 for me. I wanted something lighter (instead of all steel) and with a lockout. I very nearly pulled the trigger on a X-Fusion Slide 29er fork, about the best value for those criteria, but instead got a great deal on the RS Tora.

    I believe the Avids will do just fine, I want to say they can handle up to 180 mm discs so yours should be fine. I'm interested to see how the install/performance works for you as I am very interested in doing the same.

    where did you find the calipers for $20 do you have a link?
    Not anymore, it was a buy-it-now on ebay. No pads or rotors.

    I'll definitely come back and report how it goes. I'm going to use the stock cables and levers too, until after I replace the fork. The fork was getting replaced first, but I couldn't pass up that deal.

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    Here is my 2012 Revel 1. This is just after I added the bashguard. I have since added Ergon grips and Avid Speed Dial Levers. I have ordered a new WTB saddle and am planning to upgrade the fork as many also plan to.


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    I like that gray and the bash guard looks BA, I'm sure it can handle.

    Just got new cranset today from BlueSky 70% off. RaceFace Deus X. Came in at 859g and I'm waiting until after the install this evening to weight the factory Suntour Nex kit. Next I'm looking at brakes and then tires.
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    Thanks. The bash guard is pretty beat up now, so I guess it's doing it's job. Nice pick up on the crank. I'll be interested in how the install goes. I'm a noob so I wasn't aware that the BB was interchangeable with that style.

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    Honestly I am also and I'm not doing the install I left the bike at my local shop. You need a few specialized tools to remove and install. I figured for $35 install charge versus the same for the tools I would rather have a professional do it.

    The kit came with a new bottom bracket so as long as that fits in my frame I should good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Honestly I am also and I'm not doing the install I left the bike at my local shop. You need a few specialized tools to remove and install. I figured for $35 install charge versus the same for the tools I would rather have a professional do it.

    The kit came with a new bottom bracket so as long as that fits in my frame I should good.
    Please let us know the weight difference.

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    saved ever more than I thought... 859g versus.....
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    WOW! I guess I know what I'll be shopping for. Need to set some plans cause I'd like to go 1X10.

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    In my quest to continue lightening up the Revel 1, I've moved to the wheels/tires. I am using the front wheel as the test and try to narrow down the heaviest components and what can make the most drastic improvement.

    Giant Sport Double Wall CR70 wheel, Giant Sport 29x2.1 tires, factory 29" tube, Tektro 160mm rotor, factory Giant skewer
    TOTAL: 2,411 grams

    Skewer: 56 grams
    Rotor and T25 bolts: 137 grams
    Tube: 223 grams
    Wheel: 1,164 grams
    Tire: 810 grams


    I see the total versus the subtotals don't exactly add up, +/- 20 grams, but it is close enough. The goal is to continue shaving weight from the heavy revel and increase performance while not breaking the bank, as the bike is entry level. Looking at the results I cannot justify spending too much on the skewers, rotors maybe replaced with a new brake kit entirely. Obviously that leaves the wheels and tires. The greatest weight difference will likely be found with new wheels, however that will also be one of the most expensive upgrades. I am going to begin there and shoot for the 600 gram mark and I should be able to get tubes that are half the weight. Maybe I can stumble across some clearance wheels that make sense down the road.

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    The local shop gave me a good price on the Specialized S-Works Ground Control so I got a pair, 29x2.1 Also got 2 Specialized tubes that came in at 160g. Very satisfied with the tires they have great tread, an ultra-low resistance composite makeup and took away over 1/4 of the total tire weight.

    Just tire and tube replacement brought the 2,400 gram front wheel/tire down to just over 2,100.

    I am bringing the biek in for scheduled tuneup this week so I will have them put it on the scale. I do not have a starting weight from factory but I'm still excited to see where I'm at.
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    On the stock tires, what psi does everyone use?

    I usually run 20 to 25 psi depending on the conditions...I noticed today that they say max 65 min 40.

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    I keep mine closer to 45, I prefer a firm ride.

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    I appreciate what you guys are doing here but not why you are doing it. I would suggest that these are fairly entry level performance MTBs. I realize you all stuck to a sensible budget when you bought them but they really aren't worth upgrading. Not right away anyway. This is the kind of bike you get and ride it into the ground, then replace the parts that break. After you decide that mountain biking is really your thing, get a nicer bike. With what you are spending on upgrades, you could have just bought an XTC or equivalent.

    Just sayin". In the meantime, keep it up and have fun.
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    Mine was a gift so I started out at free.99 so I can't argue with that. I also have a hard time knowing something is lesser quality and ignoring it. I do have a separate side fund going as I am saving for a full suspension bike but this has to be get all my attention now.

    I totally understand where you are coming from though, it looks like we started with a toyota yaris and we are trying to get it ready for the drag strip.

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    Picked up a set of Black Label composite flat pedals for $15 and they are far and away better than the stock pedals. Great pedal for the money.

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    I posted my last post during a break at the trails.

    I did 8 miles on the pedals today and they feel much better than the stock steelies. I noticed a considerable difference in fatigue in my ankles and calve muscles. For $14 from my LBS, they are a great upgrade.

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    Put a few evening miles at Tapeworm in Renton, WA today. Extremely techinical and even more difficult ride on a 29er with a 710mm bar. Frost was interesting high in the downhill banks as will as the ladders. Trail was tight but in great condition given the weather for the past few weeks.

    Gorgeous day (at 35 degrees) and a fun ride. Pic is in the neighborhood below the trailhead looking NW over Lake Washington, Mercer Island and the Seattle skyline.
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    35 degree ride? How did your fork preform on that? I am afraid to use my fork when it's that cold. I think that had something to do with how my last dart 2 went out.

    Here is my 2011 Revel 0. Put on a new dart 3 when my old one went out. Schwalbe rocket Ron's are on the way. Spent a good 2 hours transforming it from a matte finish to a glossy finish. Next thing on the list are some new wheels. And saving for an Anthem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Put a few evening miles at Tapeworm in Renton, WA today. Extremely techinical and even more difficult ride on a 29er with a 710mm bar. Frost was interesting high in the downhill banks as will as the ladders. Trail was tight but in great condition given the weather for the past few weeks.

    Gorgeous day (at 35 degrees) and a fun ride. Pic is in the neighborhood below the trailhead looking NW over Lake Washington, Mercer Island and the Seattle skyline.
    I wish it was like that here. It's January and it's already getting muggy.

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    really opened it up finally to test all the new components and it was great. The weight reduction is felt not just when climbing but also how it handles. It feels so nimble into berms and up over roots. Also the tires grip really well, in the lowest gear i hit a few root balls with frost on them and the tire grabbed really well.

    I think the only thing holding me back is my endurance! Excellent day. Sorry for the fuzzy pics I didn't want to hang around and hold anyone up behind me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    really opened it up finally to test all the new components and it was great. The weight reduction is felt not just when climbing but also how it handles. It feels so nimble into berms and up over roots. Also the tires grip really well, in the lowest gear i hit a few root balls with frost on them and the tire grabbed really well.

    I think the only thing holding me back is my endurance! Excellent day. Sorry for the fuzzy pics I didn't want to hang around and hold anyone up behind me.
    Those trails look sick!


    I bought my daughter a Revel Jr 20".

    She did 11 miles today on it. It's a cool little bike.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Those trails look sick!


    I bought my daughter a Revel Jr 20".

    She did 11 miles today on it. It's a cool little bike.







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    Thats what its all about!

    The trails are great, a place called Duthie Hill outside of Seattle. A blend of everything from freeride to XC with some serious park jumps also. There are even a couple small tracks of rollers for youngsters to roll over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Thats what its all about!

    The trails are great, a place called Duthie Hill outside of Seattle. A blend of everything from freeride to XC with some serious park jumps also. There are even a couple small tracks of rollers for youngsters to roll over.
    Unfortunately Florida doesn't seem to have trails like that... Too flat.

    Ava did another 4 miles today on the same trails I do, for a total of 15 miles in two days... She's entering a mountain bike race next weekend as well.

    Her little Revel Jr is a good bike, tires are extremely grippy.

    Does anyone know how I'd go about adjusting the pull on her brake levers? The pull is a little long and it's a bit odd for her to pull it.

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    I brought a '13 Revel 29 0 home yesterday.

    I'd post some pictures but this is my 2nd post and I have 8 to go before I can present any pix of it.

    It's the Matte Black model. I added red Oury grips and a red Selle Anatomica saddle.

    I rode it home from the shop and stopped by a skillz park and played around on the pump track for a hour.

    I took it to a nearby open space park for a couple hours today.

    Although I've never had a decent MTB I really like this bike even though it isn't really top-of-the-line. If my rides this weekend are any indicator, I have a lot to learn about riding in the dirt, but I also had a blast. Very happy with the bike.

    I ran the tires today at 65# but I think I need to lower that for off-road. I was having traction issues, especially in loose stuff and uneven surfaces like pebble fields.

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    There should be a little phillips screw on the front of each lever. If you screw it in, it will shorten the reach. It will also tighten the brakes. You may have to adjust the cable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Unfortunately Florida doesn't seem to have trails like that... Too flat.
    You ever head out to Balm/Alafia? I know its not a 3 mile downhill, but theres some pretty fun stuff to take part in down here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialClimber View Post
    I ran the tires today at 65# but I think I need to lower that for off-road. I was having traction issues, especially in loose stuff and uneven surfaces like pebble fields.
    You should cut that in half. We usually run about 32#.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    You should cut that in half. We usually run about 32#.

    Agreed, I hang around 40 or so. It is firm enough to roll but I still get good traction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Agreed, I hang around 40 or so. It is firm enough to roll but I still get good traction.
    Thanx to eff and coling for the pressure advice.

    I think I'll drop to 40 for my next time out and bring a pressure gauge if I have to go lower.

    @eff - good to know I can go as low as #32. Pinch flats much of a problem at that pressure?

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    I ran as low as 25 without knowing it, over a rather root filled trail. Not that I suggest it, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBrowntown View Post
    I ran as low as 25 without knowing it, over a rather root filled trail.

    Kewl!

    Good to know you can runj that close to "flat" and at my weight 25# might not be enough, but that said ....

    The place closest to my home doesn't have roots. It has rocks - there are occasional pebble fields with rocks ranging from golf ball size up to watermellon.

    Being as new to serious MTB'ing as I am to my bike, those fields were challenging at 65#

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    Yea, the lower psi makes the ride more comfortable as well. But on some hard pack jack it up and you're flying.

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    Here 'tis

    Finally got my 10 in

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    How wide of a tire will the Revel frame allow?

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    I think you would want to consider the rim the tire bead is inside of before pushing it too far. Its like getting mud tires on your truck. its safe to get wider wheels at the same time. I wouldn't run anything wider than 2.3 or maybe 2.4. I have a 2.1 and it gets plenty of grip.

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    Need a bit of help.

    I'm about to take advantage of the Suntour upgrade program, and I can either get the Raidon or the Epicon. I know the Raidon is a good fork for the money, but the Epicon is one of their best for sub-300, so that's hard to pass up.

    The Epicon has a 15mm through axle..will this work on the stock hubs on the Revel 1?

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    I dont believe so, the stock fork is not a 15mm through axle.

    I believe I put my last 11 miles on my Revel, new bike soon. :O

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    No, they are not convertible. You'll need a new hub as well and then of course, a new wheel build by either you or your LBS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    No, they are not convertible. You'll need a new hub as well and then of course, a new wheel build by either you or your LBS.
    Welp... Looks like its the Raidon then. Not willing to spend that kind of dough. Unless there's a standard Epicon, which I doubt.

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    You can keep an eye out for 29" anthem/trance front wheels. They have a 15QR, they pop up on pink bike often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialClimber View Post
    Thanx to eff and coling for the pressure advice.

    I think I'll drop to 40 for my next time out and bring a pressure gauge if I have to go lower.

    @eff - good to know I can go as low as #32. Pinch flats much of a problem at that pressure?
    None yet, we climb over a lot of rocks and the lower pressure really helps with traction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    None yet, we climb over a lot of rocks and the lower pressure really helps with traction.
    I've ran mine as low as 25 before and there was no pinching. The stock tires seem to have very stiff sidewalls.


    My amazing deal of getting BB7's for $25 fell through, so I just bought a brand new set with HS1 rotors for $55 shipped. Should be here next week.

    Does anyone else have problems with the stock Tecktros being total crap? I've adjusted them, I've had my LBS adjust them... And they'll always work amazing the first time out after adjusting, and then it's back to suckage.

    Can't wait to get them in and then upgrade the fork and I'll be a happy camper.

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    As a beginner I'm thinking about getting a Revel 1. I'm in Long Island, Ny and enjoy riding around the nearby trails. I'm wondering if you guys would recommend this bike. Hows it treating all of you on the trails? How much did you pay, does anyone have a 2013? Any upgrades needed when I first get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Does anyone else have problems with the stock Tecktros being total crap? I've adjusted them, I've had my LBS adjust them... And they'll always work amazing the first time out after adjusting, and then it's back to suckage.

    Can't wait to get them in and then upgrade the fork and I'll be a happy camper.

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    Yes........ they suck balls!!! I'm gonna look up the bb7 ebay deal after posting this!

    A new fork will definitely make you a happy camper! I didn't realize how much effect it had on my riding until I bought the R/S silver recon solo air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Does anyone else have problems with the stock Tecktros being total crap? I've adjusted them, I've had my LBS adjust them... And they'll always work amazing the first time out after adjusting, and then it's back to suckage.
    Yeah, I think they totally suck. I already installed the Avid Speed Dial levers and that made a big difference, and I plan to upgrade to BB7's in a month or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith421 View Post
    As a beginner I'm thinking about getting a Revel 1. I'm in Long Island, Ny and enjoy riding around the nearby trails. I'm wondering if you guys would recommend this bike. Hows it treating all of you on the trails? How much did you pay, does anyone have a 2013? Any upgrades needed when I first get it?
    I really like my Revel, but there are some short comings:

    1. Fork
    2. Brakes
    3. 8 speed cassette (I need better low gear selection and the 22t chainring doesn't get where I want to be either.)


    Now compared to other bikes in it's class the Revel comes with better components across the board at a lower price. That said it's worth of purchase and use out of the box and then upgrade as funds allow or you brake something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith421 View Post
    As a beginner I'm thinking about getting a Revel 1. I'm in Long Island, Ny and enjoy riding around the nearby trails. I'm wondering if you guys would recommend this bike. Hows it treating all of you on the trails? How much did you pay, does anyone have a 2013? Any upgrades needed when I first get it?
    It is a good bike.

    I had about $2200 set aside, and I was either getting a Trance X or a Scott Spark but then I got engaged and having to pay for the wedding out of pocket, I gave that to the fiancee. That said, I had to readjust my budget. I picked up the 2013 Revel 1 for $500 and I was a bit deflated. For the most part, it met most of my expectations, even though I was wanting a much more high end bike.

    It's two biggest weak points are the brakes and the front fork IMO.

    The brakes aren't terrible per se, just under performing. They tend to get a little "soft" feeling but they do work. I don't think they were meant for real aggressive riding.

    The fork, is jello. Under hard braking it flexes and you'll see the top of the tire push left about an 8th of an inch... This is normal though for lower end forks. It works and it's smoother than a rigid fork, but you'll want to plan to upgrade it if you do any kind of aggressive riding.

    Fortunately, Suntour has a killer upgrade program right now, where you can get their mid level air fork for $175 which is what I'm doing.





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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    Yeah, I think they totally suck. I already installed the Avid Speed Dial levers and that made a big difference, and I plan to upgrade to BB7's in a month or so.
    I was looking into those....what about them made such a big difference?

    I bought BB7's with HS1 rotors for mine, but I'll be using the stock levers and cables at first.

    Are these the ones you got? Avid Speed Dial 7 Levers > Components > Brakes > Mountain Bike Brake Levers | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    I was looking into those....what about them made such a big difference?

    I bought BB7's with HS1 rotors for mine, but I'll be using the stock levers and cables at first.

    Are these the ones you got? Avid Speed Dial 7 Levers > Components > Brakes > Mountain Bike Brake Levers | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop
    I found the Tektro brakes were on or off. No feel what so ever. The Avid levers allow you to adjust the pull so that you can fine tune how hard the lever is to pull. That made the brakes tolerable for now. I highly recommend getting a set. Only $15-$20 and well worth it IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    I found the Tektro brakes were on or off. No feel what so ever. The Avid levers allow you to adjust the pull so that you can fine tune how hard the lever is to pull. That made the brakes tolerable for now. I highly recommend getting a set. Only $15-$20 and well worth it IMHO.
    Ordered them.

    Looking forward to redoing the brakes on this thing.

    Still be using the stock cables, but that's fine with me.

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    You gonna hit up Alafia/Balm anytime soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBrowntown View Post
    You gonna hit up Alafia/Balm anytime soon?
    Was hoping to this weekend, but I have a friend of mine who wants to go, so we're going to Carter Rd instead. He's on a Wally World bike, so I don't want to go far from home.

    I do have a camping trip with my daughter and a friend and his son planned to Alafia on the 16th of Feburary though

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    Looking at purchasing a 2013 Revel 0 for my first mtb. For some reason they just really catch my eye and i feel like they are a pretty good value (with exception of the front fork) any suggestions on some simple upgrades that will help me get a bit more value from the bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by techGuy714 View Post
    Looking at purchasing a 2013 Revel 0 for my first mtb. For some reason they just really catch my eye and i feel like they are a pretty good value (with exception of the front fork) any suggestions on some simple upgrades that will help me get a bit more value from the bike?
    Those are good bikes...they already come with Avid BB5 brakes and X5 drivetrain.

    I'd say run it as is, and replace the fork in a month or two when you start noticing it's suckage. You'll notice when your skill level will outdo the fork.

    Make sure to take advantage of Suntours excellent upgrade program.

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    Is anyone having issue finding shifters in 8 speed?

    I really want these, BlueSkyCycling.com - Shimano Deore M590 Shifter Pods 9 Speed, but they are 9 speed.

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    So go 9 speed! A Deore 9 speed cassette isn't expensive and this would be a great upgrade to your bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    So go 9 speed! A Deore 9 speed cassette isn't expensive and this would be a great upgrade to your bike.
    I was just thinking the same. I'll have to wait though, the Deore 9 speed is $90.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    I was just thinking the same. I'll have to wait though, the Deore 9 speed is $90.
    HUH?!!! Maybe the XT cassette but a quick google search finds all the Deore 9 speed cassettes for around $25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    HUH?!!! Maybe the XT cassette but a quick google search finds all the Deore 9 speed cassettes for around $25.
    Ahhh ok, theres a Deore XT and a Deore...I see now.

    I'm going to skip that for now anyways, as the shifters really don't bother me all that much.

    I did pick up this, because I want to cut down the bars, but I don't want to do it to the stock bars in case I sell this thing when I upgrade: BlueSkyCycling.com - Race Face Ride Xc Low Riser Bar w/ Race Face Evolve Stem Kit

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    Is that a MRP bashguard?

    What forks are you going to get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaney Boogz View Post
    Is that a MRP bashguard?

    What forks are you going to get?
    That is the BBG bashguard. BBG Website

    I am upgrading the crank and drivetrain to 9 speed, Sram X9 and Truvative Stylo. The fork I am still up in the air, but I am leaning toward Rockshox Recon Silver Solo Air.

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    Just test rode a Talon 1, Revel 0, trek marlin and mamba. The marlin was super unimpressive, and the mamba was ok. The talon 1 was nice but in the end the Revel just felt great to ride. So on Tuesday I'm going to buy my first mountain bike which will be the Revel 0. So pumped

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    I need some advice -

    My rear cassette is needing replacement, since I am learning on it, it's taking a beating.

    I want to upgrade the entire drivetrain to the Deore level. I notice there's Deore and Deore XT level of components. What's the difference between these?

    When I look for a front derailleur some say top cable and others say bottom cable... Do I need a top cable? If I do it right, I can make this conversion to 9 speed close to around $100

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    Even though it says "deore" XT, ignore the Deore part. Shimano components go in this order: XTR, XT, SLX/Saint, Deore, and then general junk that works but should be replaced ASAP. Go for a straight Deore drivetrain and you'll have good components.

    Many derailleurs are dual pull. Basically just get one that looks like the one you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Even though it says "deore" XT, ignore the Deore part. Shimano components go in this order: XTR, XT, SLX/Saint, Deore, and then general junk that works but should be replaced ASAP. Go for a straight Deore drivetrain and you'll have good components.

    Many derailleurs are dual pull. Basically just get one that looks like the one you have.
    Do you think the Deore drivetrain will be a good replacement over the Alivio that is on it now? Maybe I should shoot for SLX if I can fit it into the budget?

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    So now you see the curse of upgradeitis. Yes, Deore is good, but of course...if SLX fits your budget you should go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    So now you see the curse of upgradeitis. Yes, Deore is good, but of course...if SLX fits your budget you should go for it.
    Would it be silly not to replace the front derailleur at all? I have never shifted the front derailleur in actual use. If I did that, I could SLX rear derailleur and cassette and XT shifters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    That is the BBG bashguard.
    Did you order the 104 bcd guard? If so do they fit on the 106 bcd crank? Tried searching but kept getting mixed answers.

    Also does anyone know if you can make a bashwich on the revel 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaney Boogz View Post
    Did you order the 104 bcd guard? If so do they fit on the 106 bcd crank? Tried searching but kept getting mixed answers.

    Also does anyone know if you can make a bashwich on the revel 1?
    It's the 104 BCD. I think the Suntour site has a typo. I also considered a bashwich but it looks like the inner guard will hit the chainstay. I went with the N-Gear Jump Stop.

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    It's not silly. If that's what you want to do, go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    It's not silly. If that's what you want to do, go for it.
    Front Derailuers are so cheap there's not really a reason not to replace it, I've learned since posting that question.


    Do I need a long or medium cage rear derailuer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Front Derailuers are so cheap there's not really a reason not to replace it, I've learned since posting that question.


    Do I need a long or medium cage rear derailuer?
    If you are keeping 3 chainrings you will need the long cage. If going to 1x or 2x than run a medium cage.

    More detail here When to use a Long Cage vs Short Cage Derailleur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    If you are keeping 3 chainrings you will need the long cage. If going to 1x or 2x than run a medium cage.

    More detail here When to use a Long Cage vs Short Cage Derailleur?
    Ahh, now that you said that, it makes sense. More chainrings means longer chain which means longer cage to take up the slack.

    Thank you. I can't rep you, as I must have repped you recently.

    :EDIT:

    From reading that link, looks like it might be a good idea for me to relearn my gears using the biggest chainring, since that would give me more clearence with the rear derailuer. Right now, my favorites tend to be 2/ 2-3-4-5

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    Clearance with your RD isn't really ever an issue. It's so close to the wheel that the tire itself creates a barrier before anything hits the RD. I've been riding since 1991 and knock on wood, never broken a RD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by techGuy714 View Post
    Just test rode a Talon 1, Revel 0, trek marlin and mamba. The marlin was super unimpressive, and the mamba was ok. The talon 1 was nice but in the end the Revel just felt great to ride. So on Tuesday I'm going to buy my first mountain bike which will be the Revel 0. So pumped
    I'm pretty sure you'll like it. I like mine a lot. I test rode a GT and a TREK but had to settle on the Revel 0.

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    Learned en route ....

    I was mounting a tubular luggage rack to my Revel yesterday and discovered that the 5mm X 10 rack mounting screws in the seat stays are garbage. Very weak metal. I had one bust off and never felt it coming. Did not strip or cross-thread it, either. Had to use a drill & extractor to remove it - total PITA. Replaced with 5mm stainless cap screws. Much better.

    On the bright side, it was a lovely afternoon for a ride on the Revel to the hardware store for an extractor and new screws.

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