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    This kind of stuff is always fun, so I'll play.


    Model: 2013 Giant Revel 1 29er
    Color: Gray/Red
    Size: Large
    Fork: SR Suntour Raidon LO-R Air, 100mm travel
    Brakeset: Avid BB7 mechanicals
    Shifters: Shimano Deore 9 speed (rear only)
    Front Derailleur: none
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano SLX (Medium cage, Shadow)
    Crankset: Race Face Ride XC 32T with Race Face bashguard
    Pedals: Wellgo LU-313 Aluminum
    Bottom Bracket: Race Face X-Type Race XC
    Rear Cassette: SLX 9 speed
    Chain: KMC X9
    Seatpost: Giant Sport alloy
    Saddle: Giant Sport MTB
    Handlebar: Race Face Ride XC
    Grip: ESI Chunky foam grips
    Handlebar Stem: Race Face Evolve
    Hubs: Shimano XT
    Rims: Mavic TN719
    Tires: 29 x 2.2 Geax Saguaro (Front), 29 x 2.2 Geax AKA (Rear)

    Last time I did the math, I was somewhere under $1300 total for the bike. This freaks some people out with the whole, "WTF are you doing to a budget bike??" thing, to which I explain, This bike has the same frame as the <s>Giant XTC 29er</s> Talon (which is a good bike) and equivalent or better components, and I paid less. Plus, I had the fun of learning how to do most of this stuff on my own. some may think I'm just trying to justify my purchases, but that's how I see it

    (Since this photo, I've changed out the rims/tires)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick5587 View Post
    Hi everyone...I've only been mountain biking about 3 months. I'm in South Florida (yeah, I know...what mountains). I can't believe I've missed out on the discussions you guys have been having about Revels until tonight! I haven't ridden a bike before this for about 15 years as a teenager when I rode BMX bikes and am now addicted to mountain biking and the f'ing upgratitis (I used to build custom computers and car stereo systems as a hobby so upgratitis was already in my blood)

    I wish I saw this thread earlier as I think you guys might have been able to help me upgrade components of my drivetrain a little without braking the bank. Just last week I purchased a new bike because I thought I would need to basically replace the whole drivetrain to improve it and didn't think it was cost effective compared to getting a new bike and selling this one.

    Oh well....what's done is done.

    Anyways, Bike Profile:

    2013 Giant Revel 1 29er
    Replaced
    Front Tire - Specialized Captain S-Works 2.2 Tubeless w/ Stans
    Rear Tire - Specialized Fast Track S-Works 2.0 Tubeless w/ Stans
    Fork - 2013 Recon Silver TK Solo Air
    Pedals - Deity Compound
    Handlebar - ODI Flight Control 700EX
    Grips - Sram Lock-on's (don't know model)

    Replaced the tires and went tubeless first and the difference was HUGE. I really felt more confident on the bike immediately as I wasn't sliding around at all compared to before with the stock Kenda tires. Also climbing felt a little easier but that might have been because my legs were getting stronger.

    Fork was next and it really transformed the bike. So much so that my buddy with a Trek Mamba returned his bike after trying mine and upgraded to a Trek Cobia which has the Recon Silver fork installed.

    Platform pedals with pins and Five-Ten shoes made a nice difference with my feet not slipping all the time (still wary about being clipped in to the bike). Also, I was nervous about plastic pedals, but these things have slammed into rocks quite a few times and they survived perfectly fine...hardly a scratch.

    I purchased the wider handlebars after riding a few friends' higher-end bikes and noticing how much I liked the added stability I felt with the wider stance and it definitely helped as well.

    All in all, I can't complain...I love this bike. I ride my buddies Trek Cobia and really, I can't say his bike is better except for how smooth the shifting works on his...especially when downshifting on uphills. I think that's pretty impressive especially since total cost with my upgrades is $1,000 and the Cobia is $1,200.

    I have a cabin in North Carolina so we'll see...if I get a nice commission this month maybe I won't sell this bike and just leave it up North. As for riding in S.FLA...we don't have mountains but we can ride all year because of our weather so I'm excited about getting better and better.

    Really good thread, I learned quite a few things by reading it...Thanks. Hope my upgrade info helps anyone starting with a Revel.
    Where are you in Florida? I ride damn near every day out at Carter Rd in Lakeland, and make trips over to Alafia.

    Also, what frame size is your bike? The geometry is WAY different than mine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano SLX (Medium cage, Shadow)
    Crankset: Race Face Ride XC 32T with Race Face bashguard
    Bottom Bracket: Race Face X-Type Race XC
    Rear Cassette: SLX 10 speed
    Nice! Might go with the same setup.. any comments? Would you do anything different if you could?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post

    This bike has the same frame as the Giant XTC 29er
    Uh, nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Uh, nope.
    <s>Yep, look at the geo of it.

    Not the Composite or the Advanced. Just the standard XTC.</s>

    Actually, you are correct, it's the Talon that I meant. And my thoughts on the matter no longer count, as I've past the price of a Talon, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Nice! Might go with the same setup.. any comments? Would you do anything different if you could?
    For the price, it is great.

    The crankset with the bottom bracket can be had for $60 online, the SLX derailleur is about $50 on Amazon and the cassette is about the same.

    If your someone who isn't in the market to pay up front, this is a good upgrade to the bike. I'm paying for a wedding ATM, so it was much easier to pay as I went.

    Next time though, it's a 650 Scott hard tail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Actually, you are correct, it's the Talon that I meant. And my thoughts on the matter no longer count, as I've past the price of a Talon, lol.
    Still no. The Talon uses shorter chain stays resulting in a little bit more of a nimble bike. This is why Giant places the Talon in the "Sport/Trail" category and the Revel in the "Lifestyle/Recreation" category. The Revel is a bit more forgiving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    For the price, it is great.

    The crankset with the bottom bracket can be had for $60 online, the SLX derailleur is about $50 on Amazon and the cassette is about the same.

    If your someone who isn't in the market to pay up front, this is a good upgrade to the bike. I'm paying for a wedding ATM, so it was much easier to pay as I went.

    Next time though, it's a 650 Scott hard tail
    I do have my eye on the Trance X 29er 2.. hehe.

    But I'm pretty sure I'll be upgrading more parts on this bike before buying another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Still no. The Talon uses shorter chain stays resulting in a little bit more of a nimble bike. This is why Giant places the Talon in the "Sport/Trail" category and the Revel in the "Lifestyle/Recreation" category. The Revel is a bit more forgiving.
    2mm difference, you're right. I must have miss read it.

    Egg on my face, and all that jazz.

    I guess I'll just say, I spent way to damn much on my bike, but I'm still happy with it, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post

    The crankset with the bottom bracket can be had for $60 online, the SLX derailleur is about $50 on Amazon and the cassette is about the same.
    Can you let me know where you are seeing these prices? I just added everything I need for a 1x10 setup on jenson and I'm at $300.

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    Shimano SLX M663 Oe Rear Derailleur SGS Cage,10-Speed
    Shimano SLX Sl-660-10 Oe Shifter Set Front/Rear, w/ Indicator
    Race Face Ride Single Speed Cranks 2012 Black, 170mm, 68/73mm BB, 32T/Bash
    Race Face Race XC External BB 68/73mm, External Bottom Bracket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post

    I guess I'll just say, I spent way to damn much on my bike, but I'm still happy with it, lol.
    That's all that counts. I think "modifications" is in our blood. I'm like this with everything. Started out with car audio when I was in high school to adding a turbo kit to my Lexus IS300(RIP; got rear ended at a light). I'm into photography as well.. camera and lenses are not cheap either. Now that I have a kid, upgrading mountain bike parts seems less expensive compared to cars/cameras. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Can you let me know where you are seeing these prices? I just added everything I need for a 1x10 setup on jenson and I'm at $300.

    Shimano SLX CS-HG81-10 SP. MTB Cassette 11-36T
    Shimano HG-54 10 Speed Chain Silver, 10Speed
    Shimano SLX M663 Oe Rear Derailleur SGS Cage,10-Speed
    Shimano SLX Sl-660-10 Oe Shifter Set Front/Rear, w/ Indicator
    Race Face Ride Single Speed Cranks 2012 Black, 170mm, 68/73mm BB, 32T/Bash
    Race Face Race XC External BB 68/73mm, External Bottom Bracket
    I run 1x9, so the prices may be a bit different for you.

    Amazon.com: Shimano America RD-M662 SLX 9-Speed Rear Derailleur: Sports & Outdoors - RD $60
    Amazon.com: Shimano CS-HG61 M660 SLX Cassette (Silver, 11-34): Sports & Outdoors - cassette $50
    Race Face Ride Crankset Oe 2010 > Components > Drivetrain > Cranksets | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop - crankset - $60

    I bought my shifter pod on ebay used for $14


    Prices have fluctuated a bit since I bought them.

    :EDIT:

    found a 10 speed shifter pod for cheap. Shimano Deore M591 Oe Shift Lever > Components > Shifters | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop

    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    That's all that counts. I think "modifications" is in our blood. I'm like this with everything. Started out with car audio when I was in high school to adding a turbo kit of my Lexus IS300(RIP; got rear ended at a light). I'm into photography as well.. camera and lenses are not cheap either. Now that I have a kid, upgrading mountain bike parts seems less expensive compared to cars. LOL.
    I've played competitive paintball for 15 years and it's even worse in that sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    This kind of stuff is always fun, so I'll play.


    Model: 2013 Giant Revel 1 29er
    Color: Gray/Red
    Size: Large
    Fork: SR Suntour Raidon LO-R Air, 100mm travel
    Brakeset: Avid BB7 mechanicals
    Shifters: Shimano Deore 9 speed (rear only)
    Front Derailleur: none
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano SLX (Medium cage, Shadow)
    Crankset: Race Face Ride XC 32T with Race Face bashguard
    Pedals: Wellgo LU-313 Aluminum
    Bottom Bracket: Race Face X-Type Race XC
    Rear Cassette: SLX 10 speed
    Chain: KMC X9
    Seatpost: Giant Sport alloy
    Saddle: Giant Sport MTB
    Handlebar: Race Face Ride XC
    Grip: ESI Chunky foam grips
    Handlebar Stem: Race Face Evolve
    Hubs: Shimano XT
    Rims: Mavic TN719
    Tires: 29 x 2.2 Geax Saguaro (Front), 29 x 2.2 Geax AKA (Rear)

    Last time I did the math, I was somewhere under $1300 total for the bike. This freaks some people out with the whole, "WTF are you doing to a budget bike??" thing, to which I explain, This bike has the same frame as the <s>Giant XTC 29er</s> Talon (which is a good bike) and equivalent or better components, and I paid less. Plus, I had the fun of learning how to do most of this stuff on my own. some may think I'm just trying to justify my purchases, but that's how I see it

    (Since this photo, I've changed out the rims/tires)

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    Where are you in Florida? I ride damn near every day out at Carter Rd in Lakeland, and make trips over to Alafia.

    Also, what frame size is your bike? The geometry is WAY different than mine...
    It's a small frame. I'm in Miami actually so haven't gone up to your area yet. I plan on going up when I get a little better. Once I can get through everything I have down here I will go up north. Should be soon. Definitely getting much better lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Prices have fluctuated a bit since I bought them.

    :EDIT:

    found a 10 speed shifter pod for cheap. Shimano Deore M591 Oe Shift Lever > Components > Shifters | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop
    Thanks!

    Do we need any type of chain guide for a 1x setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Thanks!

    Do we need any type of chain guide for a 1x setup?
    Yeah, I'll take some pictures tomorrow of what I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Yeah, I'll take some pictures tomorrow of what I did.

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    Cool.

    Almost pulled the trigger on the 1x10 components but I think I'll upgrade the Fork first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post

    speaking of that, how would one go about putting hydraulic brakes on a cable brake bike? Do they mount in the same brackets as the cable noodles?
    Here's what I ended up doing.

    Shimano (and other manufacturers) sells these brake hose guides - Amazon.com: Shimano SM-Hang Disc Brake Hose Guides: Sports & Outdoors

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    (Sorry for the crappy pics but I only had the cell phone with me. I'll take better pics when I get a chance but you get the idea.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    You could get a Sram 950 for $27. 11-34.

    Amazon.com: SRAM PG950 Bicycle Cassette (9-Speed): Sports & Outdoors

    That is what I got and really like the gearing way better than the stock cassette.
    Thanks! That is what I went with.

    I ordered the x7 shifters and rear derailleur, but haven't even got them yet and upgraded to X9 shifters due to a good deal!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Here's what I ended up doing.

    Shimano (and other manufacturers) sells these brake hose guides - Amazon.com: Shimano SM-Hang Disc Brake Hose Guides: Sports & Outdoors

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    (Sorry for the crappy pics but I only had the cell phone with me. I'll take better pics when I get a chance but you get the idea.)

    So it snaps into the existing cable mount? That's genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    So it snaps into the existing cable mount? That's genius.
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    The end cap (red) goes into the existing cable mount and then you screw it tight.

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    I'm looking at the Giant Revel 0. List price is $700. What would a LBS typically be wiling to sell them for? This will be my first purchase so I have 0 experience purchasing a bike from a LBS. There are quiet a few selling it in my area. What did you guys get yours for? Any other advice? Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom. View Post
    I'm looking at the Giant Revel 0. List price is $700. What would a LBS typically be wiling to sell them for? This will be my first purchase so I have 0 experience purchasing a bike from a LBS. There are quiet a few selling it in my area. What did you guys get yours for? Any other advice? Thanks in advance.
    My LBS has is listed for 649.99. It really depends on your LBS.. though as to how much discount they'll give.

    What's your expectation from the bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    My LBS has is listed for 649.99. It really depends on your LBS.. though as to how much discount they'll give.

    What's your expectation from the bike?
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    I've done the John Muir Trail with a borrowed bike that was pretty bad. That's as hard a trail as I'll try with the bike. Most of the time it will be a medium difficulty trail. Fitness is the main goal.

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    What was the borrowed bike? This way we can compare the components and see if the Revel is any better.

    That trail system looks awesome!

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    Hey Krunk, how do you like the bb7's? I just picked up another hardtail and am thinking about throwing them on it since they seem to be on sale alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBrowntown View Post
    Hey Krunk, how do you like the bb7's? I just picked up another hardtail and am thinking about throwing them on it since they seem to be on sale alot.
    As far as mechanicals go, they are awesome.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Hey everybody. I just joined a couple weeks ago and I was excited when i saw the Revel thread. I got a Giant Revel 3 2013. I got the EC70 handlebar (thanks for the link AkaBrownTown.) The stock was so heavy.
    I'm looking to upgrade the front shock,and drop some weight. I'm using the bike for daily rides and some trails 1-2 times a week.

    Revel Thread-uploadfromtaptalk1369012862755.jpg

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    Yeah I love the white on the Revels. Im glad the link helped, the handlebar is now on my Trance (Revels are a gateway drug), the carbon on it is pretty cool too - hard to describe.

    Yeah the next logical thing to grab is a fork.

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    Just placed my order on a new fork (EPICON-X2 RL-R Lite 9QLC).. can't wait to get it.

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    Has anyone upgraded their headset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    has anyone upgraded their headset?
    I've considered trying to upgrade to a sealed bearing setup, but could never find the proper information to know what to buy.
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    Shoot.. our stock forks are not tapered right? 1 1/8 is the fork size I need? Do I also need to buy a shock pump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    I've considered trying to upgrade to a sealed bearing setup, but could never find the proper information to know what to buy.
    Yeah, trying to find the info myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Shoot.. our stock forks are not tapered right? 1 1/8 is the fork size I need? Do I also need to buy a shock pump?
    No, they're not tapered, Yes and it's recommended, the Suntour forks do not come with one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    No, they're not tapered, Yes and it's recommended, the Suntour forks do not come with one.
    Any suggestions on which shock pump to get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Shoot.. our stock forks are not tapered right? 1 1/8 is the fork size I need? Do I also need to buy a shock pump?
    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Any suggestions on which shock pump to get?
    This is what I got - Planet Bike Shockmate Bicycle Suspension Pump : Amazon.com : Sports & Outdoors

    Has worked fine so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom. View Post
    I'm looking at the Giant Revel 0. List price is $700. What would a LBS typically be wiling to sell them for? This will be my first purchase so I have 0 experience purchasing a bike from a LBS. There are quiet a few selling it in my area. What did you guys get yours for? Any other advice? Thanks in advance.
    Welcome aboard. To be completely honest I got mine because of the entry-level price and well-built frame. The components are trash, that is no secret, but I used that as an opportunity to transform mine into what I wanted it to be. if you pull the trigger on yours don't spend more than 600-650 or esle they are asking too much. Also, be prepared to lose the fork before you take the reflectors off as well shop for a new crankset and brakes. After that you're hanging with anyone on the trail.

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    X-mas in May. Put in my order for my 1x10 components. LOL. I think I am done for awhile. I gotta stop browsing this site.

    Crankset: Race Face Ride Single Speed, 170mm, 32T/Bash
    Bottom Bracket: Race Face Ride External BB, 68/73mm
    Shift Levers: Shimano Deore M591 10 Speed
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano SLX M663 10 Speed
    Rear Cogs: Shimano SLX CS-HG81 10 Speed, 11-36 Teeth
    Chain: Shimano HG-54 10 Speed
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    Upgrades:

    Fork-Manitou match comp
    Brakes-Avid BB7
    Cables-Jagwire Ripcord
    Tires-Panracer fire pro front, WTB velociraptor rear
    Grips-Oury grips

    It's a fun bike, but my next bike will definitely be a full suspension. Hardtails get the job done, but after riding my friend's Yeti ASR 5, my eyes have been opened lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBrowntown View Post
    (Revels are a gateway drug)
    Quote Originally Posted by Oakeshott View Post
    It's a fun bike, but my next bike will definitely be a full suspension. Hardtails get the job done, but after riding my friend's Yeti ASR 5, my eyes have been opened lol.
    Lol, I totally agree.

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    Nice Revel and fun-looking trail. Which GoPro are you using and what resolution/FPS? I bought a Hero 3 Black edition last night and I'm just starting to open up its capabilities. I did get the seatpost/bar mount also so I'm diggin that seatpost shot. I'm hoping it's dry enough in the Emerald City tonight to get some trail shots and test out the new toy. Cheers.

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    Here's a recent video..



    Hero2, default settings (960 30fps), seatpost mount and chest mount

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    Right on, nice angle. 'Default settings' meaning... 1080/30 FPS/W?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Right on, nice angle. 'Default settings' meaning... 1080/30 FPS/W?
    for the Hero2.. the default is 960 30fps

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Nice Revel and fun-looking trail. Which GoPro are you using and what resolution/FPS? I bought a Hero 3 Black edition last night and I'm just starting to open up its capabilities. I did get the seatpost/bar mount also so I'm diggin that seatpost shot. I'm hoping it's dry enough in the Emerald City tonight to get some trail shots and test out the new toy. Cheers.
    I'm using a contour roam for my video. It's set at 720p, 30fps. I've tried messing with different camera angles and so far my favorite is the seatpost, but those chest mount pov turn out great too.

    @ericgautier - Nice video, I like those camera angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakeshott View Post
    @ericgautier - Nice video, I like those camera angles.
    Thanks!

    Going to try and capture more of us "in" the trail next time instead of just pov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Thanks!

    Do we need any type of chain guide for a 1x setup?
    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Yeah, I'll take some pictures tomorrow of what I did.

    Sent from my RAZR MAXX
    Did you get a chance to snap a pic? Curious how you setup your chain guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Did you get a chance to snap a pic? Curious how you setup your chain guide.
    Doh! Sorry, slipped my mind.

    I'll get it for you tonight.
    2014 Scott Scale 740

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBrowntown View Post
    Yeah I love the white on the Revels. Im glad the link helped, the handlebar is now on my Trance (Revels are a gateway drug), the carbon on it is pretty cool too - hard to describe.

    Yeah the next logical thing to grab is a fork.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Doh! Sorry, slipped my mind.

    I'll get it for you tonight.
    Thanks!

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    So, while searching the net last night, I saw this..

    Race Face 2013

    Sent an email to Race Face asking if this will work with their external BB and got this reply,

    " Yes, you can use our Chain Guide bracket to install an ISCG chainguide. When installing the bracket, just replace the required DS spacer with the chainguide bracket."

    Then pair it up with this - Blackspire Stinger Chain Tensioner > Components > Drivetrain > Chain Tensioners and Guides | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop

    Just thinking out loud... thoughts on using something like this?

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    Did 5 miles last night at Tapeworm in Renton, WA (3 loops). Trail was in good shape because a volunteer was there finishing some rough spots as I began. Revel handled great as always but I was most satisfied with my tires. I have S-Works Ground Controls and they saved me arse as I began to slide out a few times. Rocks, roots, loose dirt it just kept grabbing and keeping the back under me during tight turns and sketchy landings.

    I also did 3 separate video takes with my new Hero 3 Black but didn't have time to edit it all down yet. I was filming at 1440/48 FPS/W and after a bit of file compression and tweaking to the color and sharpness the uncut clips turned out really great. I did one seatpost facing back, one handlebar POV and one helmet POV. Hoping to get it thrown together to post on here soon.

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