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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Mounted it for speed and it's been very good.

    The AKA is already a very fast tire so it's a good match.

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    Awesome. Will have to try the AKA's on the rear when/if time comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Awesome. Will have to try the AKA's on the rear when/if time comes.
    The tread design makes it a helluva climber, that's what I was looking for.

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    Rode some yesterday and it was pretty much like riding through a bunch of modeling clay.

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    BBG bashguard installed. Loving the extra room.


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    Looking at upgrading the brakes (almost hit a tree yesterday because the brakes didn't grab too well). Any recommendations? Can we reuse the rotors or is it better to buy new ones?

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    You can re-use the rotors as long as they are the same size. Keep in mind that pads will bed in with your current rotor. It doesn't mean it won't work, it may just take a few rides to have them settle completely. I'd try new pads before you spend the coin to upgrade your brakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    You can re-use the rotors as long as they are the same size. Keep in mind that pads will bed in with your current rotor. It doesn't mean it won't work, it may just take a few rides to have them settle completely. I'd try new pads before you spend the coin to upgrade your brakes.
    Thank you. Can you recommend some pads? Seems I have to get specific ones for my brakes (Tektro I.O.)?

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    Pads come in sintered metallic or organic. If you aren't having luck with the ones you have, switch to the other compound. Sorry, I don't know which you have. Most likely metallic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Pads come in sintered metallic or organic. If you aren't having luck with the ones you have, switch to the other compound. Sorry, I don't know which you have. Most likely metallic.
    They are the stock ones that came on the bike (2011 Giant Revel 1). Tektro I.O. Mechanical Brakes.

    Tektro Io Mechanical Disc Brake Pads > Components > Brakes > Brake Pads | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop (look to be metallic)

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    So I posted a "wanted" ad at my local mtb forum for hydraulic brakes... few options:

    Magura Marta
    Magura Louisa
    Avid Elixir CR
    Avid Juicy 5
    Avid Juicy 3

    I'm doing some research now, but can anyone with more knowledge than me compare the brakes or sort them in order of preference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    So I posted a "wanted" ad at my local mtb forum for hydraulic brakes... few options:

    Magura Marta
    Magura Louisa
    Avid Elixir CR
    Avid Juicy 5
    Avid Juicy 3

    I'm doing some research now, but can anyone with more knowledge than me compare the brakes or sort them in order of preference?
    I don't have any input as far as what I think is best, but I know Blue Sky Cycling sells the Elixirs for a really good price.

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    speaking of that, how would one go about putting hydraulic brakes on a cable brake bike? Do they mount in the same brackets as the cable noodles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    I don't have any input as far as what I think is best, but I know Blue Sky Cycling sells the Elixirs for a really good price.

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    speaking of that, how would one go about putting hydraulic brakes on a cable brake bike? Do they mount in the same brackets as the cable noodles?
    Thanks for the link! I'll have to weigh the price of used vs price of new with the offers I'm getting.

    As for the cabling, I believe the brackets are too small. I'll prob have to zip tie it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Thanks for the link! I'll have to weigh the price of used vs price of new with the offers I'm getting.

    As for the cabling, I believe the brackets are too small. I'll prob have to zip tie it.
    I'll likely take the brackets off of mine with a die grinder.

    Let us know what set you go with.

    I really want to go with the Elixir 9's, but there's tons of conflicting reviews online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    I'll likely take the brackets off of mine with a die grinder.

    Let us know what set you go with.

    I really want to go with the Elixir 9's, but there's tons of conflicting reviews online.
    Yeah, I do not have the skills to take off any brackets. Hehe.

    I'm waiting to hear back from the Magura guy on price and also on the CR's price. The Avid Juicy 5's, are $120 for the set F&R (w/ rotors and hardware) which is a good price I think would be my third option I think. I'll still reading reviews.. want to make sure I make the right choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    I'm waiting to hear back from the Magura guy on price and also on the CR's price. The Avid Juicy 5's, are $120 for the set F&R (w/ rotors and hardware) which is a good price I think would be my third option I think. I'll still reading reviews.. want to make sure I make the right choice.
    Where did you find the Juicy 5's for that price?
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    can we "enlarge" the mount somehow?



    (pic i found online, i think the mounts on our bike is similar)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Where did you find the Juicy 5's for that price?
    It's a "used" set on my local mtb forum.

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    Maybe use something like this - HellermannTyton T50MR0C2 Cable Tie,Mount Hole,8" x 3/16",Black,50 lb./100pk | TESSCO so the hose/cable is not flopping around. use the water bottle mounts to screw this holder in place???

    or

    http://cabletiesunlimited.com/media/...e_mount_2.jpeg

    Just thinking out loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Maybe use something like this - HellermannTyton T50MR0C2 Cable Tie,Mount Hole,8" x 3/16",Black,50 lb./100pk | TESSCO so the hose/cable is not flopping around. use the water bottle mounts to screw this holder in place???
    I'm afraid that would wear a hole into the line with all the vibration.
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    bikeparts has some cool stuff we "might" be able to use - Problem Solvers Black Hydraulic Brake guides - PAIR, Cable Stops, Guides, Pulleys

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    Hey guys!

    picked up a 2011 blk and red Revel 1 used from a local CL last year, and found this forum while looking for repair and upgrades for it..

    I'm a big guy 250, and trying to loose some weight. I stick to park paths and side walks. usually 7-12 miles at a time.

    But My Bottom Bracket is dieing. and my 32T gear in my crankset if pretty toast.

    I have looked through the thread but not seen much info on a proper size for the BB.

    I have seen many that repaced them so what is a good piece, a good gear set, and what tools will I need?

    I'm use to pulling engine and rebuilding them not so much with Bikes..

    Links to the parts would be awesome!!

    TIA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaloZ View Post

    I have looked through the thread but not seen much info on a proper size for the BB.

    TIA!
    Welcome! I'm sure someone will chime in soon. I just have not tackled this part of the bike yet.

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    The stock BB is a square taper sealed cartridge. You can replace it with an external bearing BB like a Truvativ GXP. The housing is 73mm so you do not need the spacers. Of course if you change the style of BB you will need a new crank.

    I replaced my crank with a Truvativ Stylo and have been very happy with it and i only run it with the 32t chainwheel.

    You will need a Park BBT-22 to remove the old BB and a BBT-19 to install the new BB (if changing to external bearing). Park Tool Co.

    Overall it is a very easy job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    The stock BB is a square taper sealed cartridge. You can replace it with an external bearing BB like a Truvativ GXP. The housing is 73mm so you do not need the spacers. Of course if you change the style of BB you will need a new crank.

    I replaced my crank with a Truvativ Stylo and have been very happy with it and i only run it with the 32t chainwheel.

    You will need a Park BBT-22 to remove the old BB and a BBT-19 to install the new BB (if changing to external bearing). Park Tool Co.

    Overall it is a very easy job.
    He'll also need a crank puller for square tapered cranks just to get to the BB. You're looking at close to $40 worth of tools. They are good to have but if you aren't doing it often, you should take it to your LBS. Have them show you what they are doing as they are doing it and in the future, you'll be set.
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    Yeah, I went to a Shimano XTR BB90 external BB bearing and Race Face XC crankset. Really digging it.
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    Looks like I might go with some used Elixir CRs's brakes. Someone local is selling a complete set for a good price. I'll update once I get them and installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    He'll also need a crank puller for square tapered cranks just to get to the BB. You're looking at close to $40 worth of tools. They are good to have but if you aren't doing it often, you should take it to your LBS. Have them show you what they are doing as they are doing it and in the future, you'll be set.
    Thanks, I actually borrowed the puller and forgot about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Looks like I might go with some used Elixir CRs's brakes. Someone local is selling a complete set for a good price. I'll update once I get them and installed.
    Deal fell through. Oh well.. been reading mixed reviews about Avid brakes anyway. Anyone have any experience with Hayes?

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    Some goodies on the way, can't wait to get them. Decided to go with Shimano M596 hydraulic's due to good reviews and price point. Also ordered wider bars.. 710mm. Oh, also got some clipless pedals.

    On another note, cut about 10 min off my time doing the same loop last week. Building up the stamina and biking legs.

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    Hi guys just bought a boulder 29er 0, witch is the same as the
    revel just rebranded here in Australia.
    New to all of this but really don't like the front forks.
    I don't really know how to tell what will fit without upgrading
    any thing else. Just want a clean swap.
    Will these fit with the stock wheels?
    Giant site doesn't tell you much is the stem tapered on the revel,
    what else do I need to know when swapping forks
    15mm spindle size forks will not work is this correct?
    Sorry about all the questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by custommade View Post
    Hi guys just bought a boulder 29er 0, witch is the same as the
    revel just rebranded here in Australia.
    New to all of this but really don't like the front forks.
    I don't really know how to tell what will fit without upgrading
    any thing else. Just want a clean swap.
    Will these fit with the stock wheels?
    Giant site doesn't tell you much is the stem tapered on the revel,
    what else do I need to know when swapping forks
    15mm spindle size forks will not work is this correct?
    Sorry about all the questions.

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    Yeah has the suntour but I'm in Australia don't know if it applies to me.
    Shipping from the US sort of kills the value too.
    What suntour would you recommend if I went that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by custommade View Post
    Yeah has the suntour but I'm in Australia don't know if it applies to me.
    Shipping from the US sort of kills the value too.
    What suntour would you recommend if I went that way?
    I believe the direct bolt on replacement is the

    Raidon LO R Air Disc Blk 29” $175.00

    I have not done the upgrade program myself, so, sorry can't help you much. I'm still considering it, just haven't pulled the trigger. I'll let others who have done the upgrade chime in. They all had good experience though.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    I believe the direct bolt on replacement is the

    Raidon LO R Air Disc Blk 29” $175.00

    I have not done the upgrade program myself, so, sorry can't help you much. I'm still considering it, just haven't pulled the trigger. I'll let others who have done the upgrade chime in. They all had good experience though.
    I have this fork and I love it. It's an awesome fork, very plush and smooth.

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    I think my rear cassette is failing.

    What's needed for me to upgrade to a 10spd? I have an 8spd currently?

    10 spd: chain, cassette, RD, shifter?

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    I think my rear cassette is failing.

    What's needed for me to upgrade to a 10spd? I have an 8spd currently?

    10 spd: chain, cassette, RD, shifter?
    Yep, that's what you'll need. Are you going 1x10?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Yep, that's what you'll need. Are you going 1x10?

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    Thanks! Front seems to be 'ok' atm. I'll prob just leave it for now. I'm down to a 2x setup anyway since I took out the big gear and put a bashguard in its place.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    I think you need to confirm if the rear hub is compatible with a 10 speed cassette plus your fd and chainwheeels will not be compatible with the 10 sp chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    I think you need to confirm if the rear hub is compatible with a 10 speed cassette plus your fd and chainwheeels will not be compatible with the 10 sp chain.

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    so better off going 1x up front as well? to make sure there is no compatibility issue? of course after making sure the rear hub will take a 10 spd cassette.

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    Re: Revel Thread

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    so better off going 1x up front as well? to make sure there is no compatibility issue? of course after making sure the rear hub will take a 10 spd cassette.
    That all depends on if you ever use your granny gear up front. I never did because I'm in Florida and keeping momentum up is usually enough for climbing.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    I know the chain is different but not sure about how bad it will work with 8s chainwheels.

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    My rear cassette and front shifter is broke and I need to upgrade on the cheap. I found new 2010 x7 3x9 shifters and rear derailleur on ebay for 100 bucks to my door. Any recommendations on a 9 speed cassette.... an upgrade, yet still on a budget???

    Surely the x7 will make a huge difference over the x4's I have on it now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bc3xx0 View Post
    My rear cassette and front shifter is broke and I need to upgrade on the cheap. I found new 2010 x7 3x9 shifters and rear derailleur on ebay for 100 bucks to my door. Any recommendations on a 9 speed cassette.... an upgrade, yet still on a budget???

    Surely the x7 will make a huge difference over the x4's I have on it now....
    A 9 speed SLX cassette can be had for around $50, and is world's better than the stock Alivio

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    You could get a Sram 950 for $27. 11-34.

    Amazon.com: SRAM PG950 Bicycle Cassette (9-Speed): Sports & Outdoors

    That is what I got and really like the gearing way better than the stock cassette.

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    Anyone happen to know or know where to find a weight for my 2011 giant Revel 0's 26er wheelset? Can't seem to find much info and I may purchase some new wheels but I'm curious if they are heavier or lighter and I don't have a scale accurate enough to weigh mine.

    Rims Giant XC Alloy, Double Wall
    Hubs Formula Disc, 32h
    Spokes Stainless Steel, 14g

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    Wow I haven't been on this thread in a few months but you guys are really keeping it going, awesome to read. Some reallyy great bikes on here and quality upgrades. Seattle just had a week of 75+ degrees so I got out again and can't wait for this season to really open. Way back in the January files you'll see I've gone through most of the bike already (fork, bars, saddle/post, crankset, tires, etc.) but still a few things left on the list. I put on BB5's and while the stopping power is satisfactory I want to go hydraulic and bump up to 180mm rotors. I'm probably going with Juicy's. I was riding the other day with a guy who has a Motobecane from bikes direct and he was flabbergasted at the weight difference between our bikes. After the changes I made to mine it is so nimble yet sturdy enough to handle the riding I do. Cheers mates, keep up the good work.

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    Some goodies added..

    - Shimano M596 Hydraulic Brakes
    - Race Face XC Riser Bar 710mm

    Ride around the block, the brakes feel good over the stock Tektros mech brakes. I need to bed the pads some more and need to get a proper ride in but so far I like it! I used the stock rotors for now. 160 F&R. Also, the wider bar feels good as well.

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    You know what would be a good idea... if everyone can create a "profile" post of their bike. IE: Upgrades, reviews.. etc..

    This way ppl can see quickly what they can "upgrade".
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    Model: 2011 Giant Revel 1
    Color: Gray/Blue
    Size: Small
    Fork: SR Suntour EPICON X2 RLR, 100mm travel
    Brakeset: Shimano Deore M596 Hydraulic Brakes
    Brake Rotors: F: Tektro 160mm R: Shimano SM-RT56
    Brake Pads: F: Shimano Resin A01S R: Swissstop Disc16 S
    Shift Levers: Shimano Deore M591 10 Speed
    Front Derailleur: None
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano SLX M663 10 Speed
    Crankset: Race Face Ride Single Speed, 170mm, 32T
    Chain Guide: MRP Mini G2 w/ Race Face ISCG Adapter Plate
    Pedals: Crank Brothers Candy 1
    Bottom Bracket: Race Face Ride External BB, 68/73mm
    Rear Cogs: Shimano SLX CS-HG81 10 Speed, 11-36 Teeth
    Chain: Shimano HG-54 10 Speed
    Seatpost: Giant Sport alloy, 30.9mm diameter
    Saddle: Giant Sport MTB
    Handlebar: Race Face Ride XC Riser Bar 710mm
    Grip: Race Face Sniper Lock-on
    Handlebar Stem: Giant Sport Alloy
    Hubs: Formula disc
    Rims: Giant XC Alloy, Double Wall, 32-hole
    Tires: 26 x 2.2" Geax Saguaro TNT
    **Front mounted for Traction. Rear mounted for Speed**

    Spoke: Stainless, 14ga. (2.0mm)

    This is my first mountain bike (I'm fairly new to the sport) and it has been a lot of fun. The first thing I changed were the tires. The Kenda SB8's I felt didn't have enough grip on our local trails. I'm happy with the Geax Saguaro's so far.

    After going a Giant Demo day at our local trails, I really liked the wider bar on the Trance X 29er I rode that day so I decided to upgrade to a wider bar. Also, really liked how the hydraulic brakes felt. Did some research and picked up the Shimano M596 because of good reviews and the price point. I have not taken them out on a proper ride yet, but so far I like it 10x better over the stock Tektro's.

    I'm very happy with the setup for now. I'm around $1150 total so far including the bike. Bike was at 32 lbs before upgrades (using a bathroom scale). I'll weigh it again once I get all the parts in.

    **Update: Items in red are all installed. Bike weighs in at 27 lbs now.
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    Hi everyone...I've only been mountain biking about 3 months. I'm in South Florida (yeah, I know...what mountains). I can't believe I've missed out on the discussions you guys have been having about Revels until tonight! I haven't ridden a bike before this for about 15 years as a teenager when I rode BMX bikes and am now addicted to mountain biking and the f'ing upgratitis (I used to build custom computers and car stereo systems as a hobby so upgratitis was already in my blood)

    I wish I saw this thread earlier as I think you guys might have been able to help me upgrade components of my drivetrain a little without braking the bank. Just last week I purchased a new bike because I thought I would need to basically replace the whole drivetrain to improve it and didn't think it was cost effective compared to getting a new bike and selling this one.

    Oh well....what's done is done.

    Anyways, Bike Profile:

    2013 Giant Revel 1 29er
    Replaced
    Front Tire - Specialized Captain S-Works 2.2 Tubeless w/ Stans
    Rear Tire - Specialized Fast Track S-Works 2.0 Tubeless w/ Stans
    Fork - 2013 Recon Silver TK Solo Air
    Pedals - Deity Compound
    Handlebar - ODI Flight Control 700EX
    Grips - Sram Lock-on's (don't know model)

    Replaced the tires and went tubeless first and the difference was HUGE. I really felt more confident on the bike immediately as I wasn't sliding around at all compared to before with the stock Kenda tires. Also climbing felt a little easier but that might have been because my legs were getting stronger.

    Fork was next and it really transformed the bike. So much so that my buddy with a Trek Mamba returned his bike after trying mine and upgraded to a Trek Cobia which has the Recon Silver fork installed.

    Platform pedals with pins and Five-Ten shoes made a nice difference with my feet not slipping all the time (still wary about being clipped in to the bike). Also, I was nervous about plastic pedals, but these things have slammed into rocks quite a few times and they survived perfectly fine...hardly a scratch.

    I purchased the wider handlebars after riding a few friends' higher-end bikes and noticing how much I liked the added stability I felt with the wider stance and it definitely helped as well.

    All in all, I can't complain...I love this bike. I ride my buddies Trek Cobia and really, I can't say his bike is better except for how smooth the shifting works on his...especially when downshifting on uphills. I think that's pretty impressive especially since total cost with my upgrades is $1,000 and the Cobia is $1,200.

    I have a cabin in North Carolina so we'll see...if I get a nice commission this month maybe I won't sell this bike and just leave it up North. As for riding in S.FLA...we don't have mountains but we can ride all year because of our weather so I'm excited about getting better and better.

    Really good thread, I learned quite a few things by reading it...Thanks. Hope my upgrade info helps anyone starting with a Revel.
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