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    Some pix from the ride today.

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    just got back from a nice ride. took a few photos of the bike with the new seat post. also for tires I found my pair. using a Kenda Nevegal DTC in the front and a WTB Prowler SL (mounted in reverse) in the rear and that combo works amazingly.






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    Re: Revel Thread

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    I'll measure it and get back to you.
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    I took it totally apart, cleaned it, and put it back together... And didn't measure it :-\


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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Sum'*****

    I took it totally apart, cleaned it, and put it back together... And didn't measure it :-\


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    Oops.. hehe. Next time. Reminds me.. I have to call the LBS since I haven't heard back from them yet about my order for the headset.

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    Bike Update: Really happy with the upgrades. Still playing around with the fork pressure/rebound, but much much better than the stock one. The 1x10 drivetrain is performing flawlessly and it is enough gears for me. I do not find myself wanting more. The hydraulics are also performing. No noise, no squeaks.. it just performs. Bike as it sits right now weighs in at 27 lbs (was 32 before the upgrades).

    What's next? Waiting on headset from LBS.

    I do want to upgrade a few more parts: stem, seatpost, seat and wheels.. but not "itching" to upgrade those just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    As promised even though it has no Revel significance except I rode mine into the festival..

    Story goes the park opened at 9 and I needed to be gone by 11. Registration was a logjam for a bit and vendors were still getting their lattes (great NW) so startup killed a bit of my time. Once I got going and figured the lay of the land I was strictly business. I know the trails here so I focused on only riding similarly capable bikes across vendors and attempted to compare them by factory standards on the same trail. Each vendor was helpful enough to size me, install flat pedals, and pump each shock to my weight. Let this be a disclaimer to those reading: This was my experience, my size frame, my riding style, and in no way affects your investing interest in this great sport.

    I rode the following...

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    Niner Jet 9 Pro. RS Revelation 130mm fork, Fox float ctd, Avid trail XO brakes, SRAM XX1 1X11 drivetrain.
    I felt the was less fit for XC even though the 1x11 drive really blew my mins but felt best on landings. suspension pulled me into the ground and turns and was not a jumper. Tire resistance ( Schwalbe Nobby Nic) kept me on the dirt.

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    Yeti SB96 29. Fox F34 130mm Kashima fork, Fox F34 Float CTD Kashima rear, Shimano XT 2x10, Shimano Deore XT brakes. Fox suspension was outstanding, left Earth and brought me back on a cloud. The bike handled and maneuvered flawlessly and the brakes were nearly too tight. Excellent XC bike. Only problem I felt was the geometry designed a Large for me and I rode a Medium. If I had a large I would have rode home on it...

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    Trek Rumblefish Pro. Fox F32 DRCV Kashima fork, Fox Float CTD DRCV non-kashima rear, Deore XT 2x10 drive, Deore XT brakes, Bontrager everything else.. Bike fit me the best. Good roller, easy absorption over minor jumps/hips/bridges but not a jumper. Good XC bike for the price point and capable enough to hang with the big boys. Very satisfied with the factory components.

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    Santa Cruz Tallboy LT, Rockshox Revelation fork, Fox Float RP23 rear, Avid Elixir 5 brakes, Shimano SLX 3x10 drive, Easton Havoc wheels. Ride-over height was outstanding, balanced bike and felt the lightest over the same features. Maxxis tires had the least resistance so the ride was the quickest. 3x10 shift was surprisingly effortless and the brakes were very strong but not tight.

    **Reminder: My goal was to ride the same 'caliber' bike for my style and find subtle differences between factory components. These bikes are all demos so certain things (tires, shifters, etc.) could be swapped from the dealear floor but this is what I rode. Many thanks to the vendors and the helpful people at Evergreen MTB Alliance for promoting a fun and safe event.

    One more teaser... Freshly released Trek but I'll leave the stats up to you. It's a sexy bike, all chrome and the pic doesn't even show it.....

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    Re: Revel Thread

    We had a wet ride here in RI yesterday.




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    Honestly I haven't been on either yet. My dealer down the street carries both but havne't been on one. I got a gift certificate for Trek good for 90 days so I'll be testing one before then. Pretty sure I'll be going with a Rumblefish Elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Oops.. hehe. Next time. Reminds me.. I have to call the LBS since I haven't heard back from them yet about my order for the headset.
    I'm still getting slight grinding, so I may need to replace the bearings.

    I'll take it apart again and get the measurement if your LBS doesn't have news for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    I'm still getting slight grinding, so I may need to replace the bearings.

    I'll take it apart again and get the measurement if your LBS doesn't have news for you.
    Called the LBS, they ordered a Giant sealed headset (suppose to be from Crane) for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Called the LBS, they ordered a Giant sealed headset (suppose to be from Crane) for me.
    What was the cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    What was the cost?
    $60.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Does anybody know whether or not a 203mm rotor will fit on the stock forks? I know 180mm will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPCardoza View Post
    Does anybody know whether or not a 203mm rotor will fit on the stock forks? I know 180mm will.

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    I don't know if it will or not, but if it does, be careful.

    If you're a heavy rider, you will get very bad fork flex with a rotor that size. I was at 210lbs when I had the stock fork and it would flex a lot with the oem discs.
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    Re: Revel Thread

    Planning on replacing the fork too. Not sure which one first though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPCardoza View Post
    Planning on replacing the fork too. Not sure which one first though.

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    Figure out which fork you are going to go with first. That will most likely tell you the 'max' size rotor you can go with.

    For me, I upgraded the brakes first.. as I had a few "oh sh*t" moments when I wanted to stop. With braking power at hand, the ride was a lot more fun. I then did the fork and the fork transformed the bike further. Feels like a totally different bike now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPCardoza View Post
    Planning on replacing the fork too. Not sure which one first though.

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    Are you aware of the SR Suntour upgrade program?

    If you want to upgrade your Suntour fork
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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Honestly I haven't been on either yet. My dealer down the street carries both but havne't been on one. I got a gift certificate for Trek good for 90 days so I'll be testing one before then. Pretty sure I'll be going with a Rumblefish Elite.
    I would definitely try them out. I tried out the Trance X 29 but not the Anthem yet.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    I pulled the trigger on some Mavic XC 717 UB (rim brake) for my revel 3. Im upgrading the rear to 8 speed freehub but need some ideas on rim brake free hubs (8speed). 10 speed capability would be nice too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnjeff View Post
    I pulled the trigger on some Mavic XC 717 UB (rim brake) for my revel 3. Im upgrading the rear to 8 speed freehub but need some ideas on rim brake free hubs (8speed). 10 speed capability would be nice too.

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    No experience with this, sorry.

    My plan is to transfer all my stock parts to the wife's Revel 2 (which has v-brakes currently) once I find/change over my stock wheelset. This will give her 8spd and disc brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    I'm still getting slight grinding, so I may need to replace the bearings.

    I'll take it apart again and get the measurement if your LBS doesn't have news for you.
    Took the bike over to the LBS. I checked out the headset they ordered. Not much info on the box. It was labeled with Giant and FSA markings.. sealed bearing.. for 1 1/8. It was actually cheaper than what I had original thought. The headset was $29.99. I'll ask for paperwork when I pick up the bike. Sorry but not much help at this time.

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    Was just looking at the pictures we took this past weekend and this series shows just how much the fork is working

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    Bottom left pic appears fork is using all of its 100mm of travel.

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    Re: Revel Thread

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    Took the bike over to the LBS. I checked out the headset they ordered. Not much info on the box. It was labeled with Giant and FSA markings.. sealed bearing.. for 1 1/8. It was actually cheaper than what I had original thought. The headset was $29.99. I'll ask for paperwork when I pick up the bike. Sorry but not much help at this time.
    So it worked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    So it worked?

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    LBS is installing the headset for me and according to them it'll fit the Revel. I was trying to get the ID spec but it wasn't listed on the box. Sorry.

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    Re: Revel Thread

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    LBS is installing the headset for me and according to them it'll fit the Revel. I was trying to get the ID spec but it wasn't listed on the box. Sorry.
    Awesome. Maybe I'll call Giant directly, or get my LBS to call them. Do you have the party number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Awesome. Maybe I'll call Giant directly, or get my LBS to call them. Do you have the party number?

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    Best to probably hit up your LBS since I have a 26.. and you have a 29. Not sure if there is any difference in headtube ID size.

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    maybe someone can help me. haha. my rear brakes seem to be almost none existant. when you engage them they lock the wheel from moving if you stand the bike up and the wheel just drags when you move the bike to test them but when you are actually riding they hardly do much at all in fact I engaged the rear brake when going up a steep hill to test how much they are working and it didnt make the climb any more difficult. I took it to my lbs and they gave the bike back to me and said everything was fine but then I took it out and the same thing. the pads are in good shape do the rear brakes just suck that bad?

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    Assuming you still have the stock Novelas the fact is they are not good brakes. That said, they should still stop the bike. My guess is you are experiencing cable stretch, which is when the cables on a new bike are used just enough to stretch out a bit. You will notice the same thing with your shifter cables though not as pronounced. This would explain why they still can close the caliper with no weight but will not create enough friction with a rider weight to stop the bike. you did the right thing by taking it in, they did the wrong thing by not tuning it back.its a simple matter of them tightening your cables.

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    the lbs said the reason was probably a little mud got in the cable and probably just needed a little lube so he said he put some on the cable but the same thing. when I bring it in for anything they seem like they are annoyed and I think they probably don't even touch the bike sometimes and give it back. I am supposed to get free tune ups and adjustments for life since I bought the bike there. guess I'll have to pay another shop to do it.

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    Any wheel guru's in here? I'm looking at used wheelsets.. just wanted to see/hear opinions on which set is better of the 2..

    1) Hope Pro 2 hubs on Stans Notubes ZTR Flow - $400

    or

    2) Hope evo hubs on Mavic xm 819 - $350

    I think hope evo's are newer? Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMav View Post
    the lbs said the reason was probably a little mud got in the cable and probably just needed a little lube so he said he put some on the cable but the same thing. when I bring it in for anything they seem like they are annoyed and I think they probably don't even touch the bike sometimes and give it back. I am supposed to get free tune ups and adjustments for life since I bought the bike there. guess I'll have to pay another shop to do it.
    Sorry you are getting the "cold" shoulder from your LBS. I figured since you bought the bike there that they would treat you "right". That was one of the biggest factor when I bought the bike. How the LBS treated me before and after I bought the bike.

    Can or do you want to work on adjusting the brake yourself? There are plenty of youtube videos to check out and follow.

    Youtube was my source when I did the work/upgrade on my bike. The LBS was surprised of all the work I did when I brought back the bike the last time I brought the bike in.

    Funny thing is, I paid for the "lifetime" service but it only applies to the "stock" parts. I barely have anything stock now. LOL.

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    On to the subject of wheels. In looking at bicycle wheel warehouses daily special


    "This is definitely not a light weight XC race wheel set. No No, this is a full-on, big impact, dirt destroyer. The Sun-Ringle King Pin MTB rim is big, heavy, and strong. We’re building them up with some pretty tough, basic Shimano Alivio disc hubs, DT stainless spokes, brass nipples. The idea behind these wheels is simple, if you need some tough wheels to practice jumps, test new down-hill runs, or simply if you need a well built, basic disc wheel set, here you go.

    This deal of the day wheel set includes the front and rear wheel, and ships with Shimano MTB QR levers.

    Brief: MTB disc wheel set 26”
    Rims: Sun-Ringle King Pin, white, 32 hole
    Hubs Front: Shimano Alivio 6-bolt disc (247g)
    Hubs Rear: Shimano Alivio 6-bolt disc, (439g) Shimano (& Sram) 8/9 speed compatible
    Nipples: DT Swiss brass
    Wheel Weights (approx.): Front = 1148g, Rear = 1684g, Set = XNthg
    Tire Sizes: 26” x 2.1 – 26” x 3.0"

    I'm not sure if these will fit my 2011 revel 0 but I don't see why not. I've been looking at a heavy duty tough wheelset and this look like the one. These have to be more durable than the crappy formula ones on my current wheels. All they do it make noise. These seem like they may be extremely heavy but the wheels on the bike now feel really heavy but I have no idea how much they actually weigh.

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    I wouldn't mind doing it myself at all I just couldn't find a youtube videos on it. do you have any links? I would greatly appreciate any.

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    Re: Revel Thread

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    I wouldn't mind doing it myself at all I just couldn't find a youtube videos on it. do you have any links? I would greatly appreciate any.
    Park Tools website is the best source of information on the net.

    When I'm on my PC, I'll link you.

    You'll never have to ask how tondo something again, after viewing that site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMav View Post
    I wouldn't mind doing it myself at all I just couldn't find a youtube videos on it. do you have any links? I would greatly appreciate any.
    Try..


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    Quote Originally Posted by SQUIRRELSHOOTR View Post
    On to the subject of wheels. In looking at bicycle wheel warehouses daily special


    "This is definitely not a light weight XC race wheel set. No No, this is a full-on, big impact, dirt destroyer. The Sun-Ringle King Pin MTB rim is big, heavy, and strong. We’re building them up with some pretty tough, basic Shimano Alivio disc hubs, DT stainless spokes, brass nipples. The idea behind these wheels is simple, if you need some tough wheels to practice jumps, test new down-hill runs, or simply if you need a well built, basic disc wheel set, here you go.

    This deal of the day wheel set includes the front and rear wheel, and ships with Shimano MTB QR levers.

    Brief: MTB disc wheel set 26”
    Rims: Sun-Ringle King Pin, white, 32 hole
    Hubs Front: Shimano Alivio 6-bolt disc (247g)
    Hubs Rear: Shimano Alivio 6-bolt disc, (439g) Shimano (& Sram) 8/9 speed compatible
    Nipples: DT Swiss brass
    Wheel Weights (approx.): Front = 1148g, Rear = 1684g, Set = XNthg
    Tire Sizes: 26” x 2.1 – 26” x 3.0"

    I'm not sure if these will fit my 2011 revel 0 but I don't see why not. I've been looking at a heavy duty tough wheelset and this look like the one. These have to be more durable than the crappy formula ones on my current wheels. All they do it make noise. These seem like they may be extremely heavy but the wheels on the bike now feel really heavy but I have no idea how much they actually weigh.
    What's the price on those? As long as they are the standard 9mm QR, they should work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMav View Post
    I wouldn't mind doing it myself at all I just couldn't find a youtube videos on it. do you have any links? I would greatly appreciate any.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Park Tools website is the best source of information on the net.

    When I'm on my PC, I'll link you.

    You'll never have to ask how tondo something again, after viewing that site.

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    Here you go

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Try..

    sweet! that was super easy and now the brakes are working as they should. thanks for the video!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    very nice! thanks for the link it will come in useful for sure.

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    what kind of pads am I supposed to look for when the time comes to replace them? what size and whats a good brand too?

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    so, browsing around pinkbike for frames and came upon this. WOW.. for some reason, i really REALLY like the look of this frame/bike build..

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    hmmm.. really want to build a FS next, but i might just give this a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMav View Post
    sweet! that was super easy and now the brakes are working as they should. thanks for the video!
    awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMav View Post
    sweet! that was super easy and now the brakes are working as they should. thanks for the video!
    You might want to find another LBS...if all it took was for a new guy to watch a YT video and fix something they said was working as intended...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    You might want to find another LBS...if all it took was for a new guy to watch a YT video and fix something they said was working as intended...
    I found one even closer to my house and the only reason I kept going back was because any adjustments needed and tune ups are free since I bought the bike there but if they don't do anything than the free tune ups are useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMav View Post
    I found one even closer to my house and the only reason I kept going back was because any adjustments needed and tune ups are free since I bought the bike there but if they don't do anything than the free tune ups are useless.
    Did you pay for them or are they included in the our have of a bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Did you pay for them or are they included in the our have of a bike?

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    it's included if you buy a bike from them.

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    Got the old headset back from the LBS today. I'll see if I can measure it tomorrow and report back.

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    Does anyone use any "stanchion lube" on their fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    What's the price on those? As long as they are the standard 9mm QR, they should work.
    $70 shipped. The rear wheel is close to 5 lbs I think. That seems a little crazy for any wheel

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    Most of my latest posts are not Revel-related but I have been wanting a pair of shades specially formatted for riding. Did the build your own Custom option at my local Oakley store and bought these. Half Jacket 2.0 XL with Violet Iridium lens. I bought the colored lens up front because they can be worn anytime and the clear replacement lenses are easy to find aftermarket for cheaper. I'm honestly not a big sunglasses person but I figure if your gunna do it then do it right. I'm actually really stoked for the clears to show I think they will improve my experience. Never rode with eye protection so I'm really looking forward to this equipment upgrade.


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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Most of my latest posts are not Revel-related but I have been wanting a pair of shades specially formatted for riding. Did the build your own Custom option at my local Oakley store and bought these. Half Jacket 2.0 XL with Violet Iridium lens. I bought the colored lens up front because they can be worn anytime and the clear replacement lenses are easy to find aftermarket for cheaper. I'm honestly not a big sunglasses person but I figure if your gunna do it then do it right. I'm actually really stoked for the clears to show I think they will improve my experience. Never rode with eye protection so I'm really looking forward to this equipment upgrade.


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    for mountain biking I only wear these indoor/outdoor glasses because its like wearing sunglasses but when you look through the lenses they are clear instead of dark so when you go into a dark spot on a trail you can see nice and clearly. you can get em cheap on ebay

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    Holy mackeral... That woulda saved me quite a bit of money lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SQUIRRELSHOOTR View Post
    $70 shipped. The rear wheel is close to 5 lbs I think. That seems a little crazy for any wheel
    5 lbs just for the rear wheel? + cassette? Yeah, that seems heavy.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Can anybody confirm that the suntour Raidon lo air will fit the stock wheel hubs without modification? I read the epicon requires new hubs but not sure about the Raidon.

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    It should as long as it has a 9 mm skewer. Several epicons require a 15mm. My friend has that fork(it is a raidon, not sure which model) and it fits the standard 9mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPCardoza View Post
    Can anybody confirm that the suntour Raidon lo air will fit the stock wheel hubs without modification? I read the epicon requires new hubs but not sure about the Raidon.

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    Yes, the Raidon should be a direct fit.

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    Sequence of events Saturday:

    Fishing Lake Desire just after sunrise
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    Riding along the Cedar River around Noon
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    Cedar River flows into Lake Washington around 1 PM
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    Ninkasi Red from Eugene, OR flows into my tummy around 2 PM
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    I have been riding a 2013 Revel 0 29er the last 5 months.
    I have been reading some about wheel and fork upgrades. Everyone says the Raidon is better than the stock fork, but since I have only ridden the one fork, I don't know. Anyone know how they compare in weight?
    As far as the wheels go, I have a set of sxc2 wheels on another bike in my garage, does anyone know how they compare to the cr70 wheels on my bike? I might borrow them.

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    Thinking about my 2013 revel 0 29er - does anyone know how much the frame weighs? Compared to a Talon? A trance? I'm thinking about upgrading, and wondering at the same time if it would be better just to buy a new bike.
    Pros of the bike I have - I already have it! I really like the look. I would enjoy learning how to change stuff out too. I could borrow the wheels off of a hardy used 2012 Rainier 1 29er in my garage.
    Pros of a new Trance like bike - well, pretty obvious.
    I'm not a racer, just like to go fast and get my heart pumping. I ride about 50/50 paved trail and single track. The paved trail is only when I can't get to the single track!
    Any thoughts and opinions appreciated.

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    I just bought my Revel 29er a few months ago. I am thinking about upgrading to Avid BB7's. Will the brake cables and housing be good to go or will I have to purchase new cables etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Sequence of events Saturday:

    Fishing Lake Desire just after sunrise

    Riding along the Cedar River around Noon

    Cedar River flows into Lake Washington around 1 PM

    Ninkasi Red from Eugene, OR flows into my tummy around 2 PM
    Awesome stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedneeder View Post
    I have been riding a 2013 Revel 0 29er the last 5 months.
    I have been reading some about wheel and fork upgrades. Everyone says the Raidon is better than the stock fork, but since I have only ridden the one fork, I don't know. Anyone know how they compare in weight?
    As far as the wheels go, I have a set of sxc2 wheels on another bike in my garage, does anyone know how they compare to the cr70 wheels on my bike? I might borrow them.
    The fork upgrade made a HUGE difference to me. The bike rides much much better compared to stock fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedneeder View Post
    Thinking about my 2013 revel 0 29er - does anyone know how much the frame weighs? Compared to a Talon? A trance? I'm thinking about upgrading, and wondering at the same time if it would be better just to buy a new bike.
    Pros of the bike I have - I already have it! I really like the look. I would enjoy learning how to change stuff out too. I could borrow the wheels off of a hardy used 2012 Rainier 1 29er in my garage.
    Pros of a new Trance like bike - well, pretty obvious.
    I'm not a racer, just like to go fast and get my heart pumping. I ride about 50/50 paved trail and single track. The paved trail is only when I can't get to the single track!
    Any thoughts and opinions appreciated.
    I was in the same boat as you (before I upgraded the Revel). I still plan to "upgrade" to a better bike (most likely a full suspension) but the itch is not as bad after I did some upgrades to the Revel. As I mentioned in the prev post, the fork upgrade really changed the bike. For paved and single track the Revel w/ a better fork would be more than capable. I say, it is worth a shot doing the fork upgrade then go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daryn View Post
    I just bought my Revel 29er a few months ago. I am thinking about upgrading to Avid BB7's. Will the brake cables and housing be good to go or will I have to purchase new cables etc.?
    Are you keeping the stock levers? If so, then you should be able to reuse the cables and housing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    Holy mackeral... That woulda saved me quite a bit of money lol
    Visited LensCrafters and saw some sweet Oakley sunglasses. Thinking about picking up a pair myself (but need prescription lenses though).

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    I kept the levers, cables and housing when I put on BB5's it's just a bolt on application. Raidon fork is going to be much better than the factory fork, actually performing like a shock absorber should instead of a pogo stick. If you run half paved I suggest including lockout as a necessity. ericgautier should be able to advise on his. MY RS Tora has a remote pop-lock to help save my back. Also, go with the SXC3 wheels. They shouldn't make a huge difference in weight but I believe they are stronger and will last much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Are you keeping the stock levers? If so, then you should be able to reuse the cables and housing.
    Cables work with the Avid levers too.

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    Thanks for the input guys. Any info on the frame weight?
    I'm looking at spending $200 on a fork for a bike I spent $600 on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedneeder View Post
    Thanks for the input guys. Any info on the frame weight?
    I'm looking at spending $200 on a fork for a bike I spent $600 on.
    You got a bathroom scale? I don't have a dedicated scale for the bike, so I did me+bike.. then just me.. using a bathroom scale. With the stock components, the bike weighed 32 lbs. With the upgrades I did.. the bike now weighs 27 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Are you keeping the stock levers? If so, then you should be able to reuse the cables and housing.
    I believe that I will. I bought a shorter stem (70mm) to try it out. I bought a 720mm bar which changed the feel of the bike. Much more stable with loose, rocky terrain. In addition I bought a couple BB7 kits with the 200mm G2 rotors. Next I am looking for a fork. The stock fork on my 2013 Revel 29er 1 is Suntour XCT V4 29", 80mm Travel. Do you guys have any recommendations for an upgrade?

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    Yes Eric, my while bike weighs 31 lbs according to me bathroom scale! I'm trying to get a feel for frame weight vs other frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daryn View Post
    Next I am looking for a fork. The stock fork on my 2013 Revel 29er 1 is Suntour XCT V4 29", 80mm Travel. Do you guys have any recommendations for an upgrade?
    Take advantage of the Suntour Fork Upgrade program.

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    So, I think I've decided to change out the stock stem (60mm 15 deg rise). Can anyone tell me advantaged/disadvantages of a longer stem/less def rise?

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    Eric, how's all the bike parts after riding them for a little bit? I sold my 29er yesterday so I'm either upgrading the revel or saving for another month or so and getting an anthem or trance. It's such a hard decision. Recently something cracked in the bottom bracket. Any other crankset you wish you would have chosen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    So, I think I've decided to change out the stock stem (60mm 15 deg rise). Can anyone tell me advantaged/disadvantages of a longer stem/less def rise?
    The stem length yields two differences. One affects the angle of your riding position, meaning how far you are stretched out or hunched over to connect with the grips. Becasue of this it can be used as a quick fix when people buy the incorrect frame for their size. The other thing it does is affects how far the bars actually need to swing to turn the front wheel. Think of it this way, on old school mtb's the bars were mounted virtually directly above the fork tube/headset but a stem extends those bars away making the sweep larger from side to side to turn. A shorter stem is often the preferrd method for 29ers bc of their general lack of nimble turming. I stuck with the factory one only because my Cateye is mounted on it and I'm not sure I could fit it on a smaller stem.

    The rise is just that, how much it will left the bars up and away from the frame. IMO this is purely about comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SQUIRRELSHOOTR View Post
    Eric, how's all the bike parts after riding them for a little bit? I sold my 29er yesterday so I'm either upgrading the revel or saving for another month or so and getting an anthem or trance. It's such a hard decision. Recently something cracked in the bottom bracket. Any other crankset you wish you would have chosen?
    The bike acts and behaves like a totally different bike. So far so good, everything is still smooth. Have about 50 miles on the new parts. Knowing what I know now, I would go a different route with the chainguide. The ISCG adpater + chainguide was a pita to setup and I had to use an extra spacer to push the drive side crank out a little to clear the guide. That or try and use flat heads on the bolts so it does not interfere with the small chain bosses on the crank.

    Actually, I installed my stock crankset/bb on my friends bike and if I would have known this earlier, I would have just kept that crankset/bb combo and just put a single speed chain ring on it. The drive side crank doesn't have the bosses inside and could probably be much more chainguide friendly.

    Overall though, I am really happy with how the bike turned out. Pretty much set and just plan to ride it until parts break.

    My next upgrade will be a Full Suspension bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SQUIRRELSHOOTR View Post
    Eric, how's all the bike parts after riding them for a little bit? I sold my 29er yesterday so I'm either upgrading the revel or saving for another month or so and getting an anthem or trance. It's such a hard decision. Recently something cracked in the bottom bracket. Any other crankset you wish you would have chosen?
    I got a RaceFace Deus X set on BluSky for something outrageous lik 75% off. It's half the weight and feels very smooth. Includes the BB and is a direct bolt on with the right tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    The stem length yields two differences. One affects the angle of your riding position, meaning how far you are stretched out or hunched over to connect with the grips. Becasue of this it can be used as a quick fix when people buy the incorrect frame for their size. The other thing it does is affects how far the bars actually need to swing to turn the front wheel. Think of it this way, on old school mtb's the bars were mounted virtually directly above the fork tube/headset but a stem extends those bars away making the sweep larger from side to side to turn. A shorter stem is often the preferrd method for 29ers bc of their general lack of nimble turming. I stuck with the factory one only because my Cateye is mounted on it and I'm not sure I could fit it on a smaller stem.

    The rise is just that, how much it will left the bars up and away from the frame. IMO this is purely about comfort.
    Thanks! Exactly my thoughts. I did like the feel when I inverted my stem. I guess that would be similar to a stem w/ less rise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coling View Post
    I got a RaceFace Deus X set on BluSky for something outrageous lik 75% off. It's half the weight and feels very smooth. Includes the BB and is a direct bolt on with the right tools.
    Race Face is a solid brand.

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    Their ride crankset is what I am most likely going to end up getting once mine is completely toast. It's got a crack in one of the cups and it makes a popping noise but its rideable. I'm gonna end up ordering those "heavy" wheels. The ones on my bike now are that heavy and they are tough. I just need a new mtb set and then throw on some commuting tires on the crappy wheelset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post

    My next upgrade will be a Full Suspension bike.
    I just upgraded to a Stumpy FSR!! Went to week 4 of the time trials at the home trails with it and went from 3 straight top 10 finishes to 46th!!! Going back to the revel till they are over!!

    The FS is awesome, but it's gonna take some practice to reach the speeds I can get out of the revel and not crash!!

    My revel has a Recon silver fork, x9 shifters, and x7 rear derailuer. The rest is stock!

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    Revel Thread-peshpdm520-sil.jpgI just installed some shimano m540 pedals and man are they awesome! I had the crank brothers egg beaters before the shimanos and the shimanos are waaaaayy better. much faster and easier to clip in and out and they feel more comfortable for extended standing and the cleats seem to be better quality . wish I had got them before the egg beaters. I'll probably end up selling the egg beaters for super cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bc3xx0 View Post
    I just upgraded to a Stumpy FSR!! Went to week 4 of the time trials at the home trails with it and went from 3 straight top 10 finishes to 46th!!! Going back to the revel till they are over!!

    The FS is awesome, but it's gonna take some practice to reach the speeds I can get out of the revel and not crash!!

    My revel has a Recon silver fork, x9 shifters, and x7 rear derailuer. The rest is stock!
    Why do you think that is? Just not "in tune" with the Stumpy yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMav View Post
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    I have the same pedals sitting in the shelf. I'm using the Candy 1's for now but I am having a hard time clipping my right foot. Left is easy. I might have to adjust the cleats (I think the right foot is slightly lower than the left).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    I have the same pedals sitting in the shelf. I'm using the Candy 1's for now but I am having a hard time clipping my right foot. Left is easy. I might have to adjust the cleats (I think the right foot is slightly lower than the left).
    The candys seem pretty awesome I got a pair new in the box that I am going to see if my step dad wants so he can try clipless. I haven't tried the candies myself but I am sure I would probably like them more than the standard egg beaters I have now in my bike parts drawer. I just absolutely love the shimanos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Why do you think that is? Just not "in tune" with the Stumpy yet?
    Yes.... Definitely not in tune yet!! It's got a longer wheelbase so tight tech turns burn me everytime and I just don't have enough seat time on it to predict what it will do on jumps and hops cause I'm used to avoiding them!! I just can't ride it as fast as i can the revel right now. The first lap was my fastest ever (by 5 seconds or so), the second I ate dirt, hard..... the third, I was in pain but didn't want the DNF!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMav View Post
    The candys seem pretty awesome I got a pair new in the box that I am going to see if my step dad wants so he can try clipless. I haven't tried the candies myself but I am sure I would probably like them more than the standard egg beaters I have now in my bike parts drawer. I just absolutely love the shimanos.
    I haven't tried the Shimano's yet. I bought the Candy first then saw a great deal on the Shimano's and picked them as well. I might just have to try it now.

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    Just noticed there is a thread dedicated to the Giant Revel. I just bought my Giant Revel 4 today, plan to use it for the few XC trails there are around here. First to upgrade though would be the forks, the SR Suntour forks on there aren't as bad as I thought they would be but would like to put some Rockshox on. Also the pedals need changing - I'm already not a fan of the cheapy plastic pedals the shop put on. What you guys think?

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    Any suggestions on an 8 speed cassette for less than $40 with good durability and not super heavy? And the tool to install it?

    Joe, for a new upgraded fork look at the suntour customer program. There's a link to a post about it within the past couple of pages. With it you can get a pretty good air for for $160 or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SQUIRRELSHOOTR View Post
    Joe, for a new upgraded fork look at the suntour customer program. There's a link to a post about it within the past couple of pages. With it you can get a pretty good air for for $160 or so.
    I've been looking at that but it seems that it is limited to America / Canada. I'll double check to see though, Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeDougieDouglas View Post
    I've been looking at that but it seems that it is limited to America / Canada. I'll double check to see though, Thanks!
    Send an email to Nick... NMoore @ srsuntourna.com
    I'm sure he can let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SQUIRRELSHOOTR View Post
    Any suggestions on an 8 speed cassette for less than $40 with good durability and not super heavy? And the tool to install it?
    Can you get away with a 9 speed cassette? Just adjust H and L?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgautier View Post
    Can you get away with a 9 speed cassette? Just adjust H and L?
    You would also need to upgrade the rear shifter to 9 speed (shifter is what runs the show here), and possibly a new 9 speed chain...

    As for a new cassette, do some googling, you will find tons out there in your price range; Amazon.com: Shimano HG70-I 8 Speed Mountain Bike Cassette: Sports & Outdoors

    And as for the tools / process to change it try youtube, you will find tons of info there, you will need at ;east a cassette tool, and a chain whip...

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    Neither tool is very expensive so I bought a chain whip too. I bet I could have just held the cassette with a rag however.

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    The installation looks simple. But on the lock ring remover I have seen multiple designs. Maybe for older model cassettes? Just don't want to order the wrong one.

    My rd and shifter are 8 speed. I'd prefer not to buy new parts as mine work fine. I've been looking at the sram pg 850(I think that's its name). I have no idea if its good or bad. I'd prefer the best(durability and lightweight) cassette I could get for $30-$40.

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    Why exactly are you replacing the cassette? is yours not performing correctly or damaged? not satisfied with the performance? I'm only curious in case I should be worried about the future of mine.

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    I'm getting a new wheelset and putting a new cassette on it. My current one is my second cassette on the original wheelset. It seemed like the first one wore out really quickly. It was replaced back in march or April I think and now its already skipping gears and slipping. I won't really use this wheelset much but it seems like it hasn't lasted very long at all. It was also replaced with the chain and I have washed and lubed it after every ride.

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    I just took off my wheel to see if I could find a model number on my current cassette and all it said was sram. I looked at my original one sitting in a bag and all it said was sram. The original one was a
    Cassette SRAM PG830 11x32, 8-Speed
    According to the giant database. The bike shop replaced it with one several months ago. I don't think it's the same model because it made my bike feel lighter.

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    interesting, ok thanks for the info. I haven't felt signs of mine going out and I've been on it consistently since November. If I wasn't as much in the market for a new FS I would take this as motivation to complete a 1X10 swap.

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