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    The 10 and 9 speed chains are different and not sure if the 9 speed chain will play nice on a 10 speed chainring. You could always get a new 9 speed chainring. The other thing is that that is a 36t and I would prefer a 32t. Not sure what your trails are like but you currently have a 32t in the center. You will also need a new BB.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    9 speed chains work perfectly fine on 10 speed rings. 10 speed chains work great on 9 speed cassettes. Use whichever chain you want.
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    SilentFoe, as always, you've been awesome with the answers. Thanks you! It seems I've repped you to often as it wont let me rep you again.

    On to my next question, I believe it's a simple one.

    I just need to know if this will lace right into the stock wheels: Amazon.com: Shimano HB-M788 XT Front Disc Thru Axle Hub (32H Front 15-mm CenterLock Disc): Sports & Outdoors

    I'm almost positive it will, but I wanted to check before I purchased it.

    I'm going to take advantage of the Suntour upgrade program, but don't like the idea of upgrading to a 9mm.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Ready for this...

    The stock hub flange diameter is 59mm and spoke length is 285mm.

    The XT hub you want has a flange diameter of 44mm and would require 291mm spokes.

    So basically you would need 32 new spokes as well. That would add approx. $32 to your project.

    I'd highly recommend just getting a completely new wheel at that point.

    Pm me if you'd like a great price on a take-off from a 2011 Giant Anthem 29er (un-used).
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    Oh, also that is a center lock hub. Do you have center lock rotors? If not you'd need to get a new rotor as well. Good luck with the upgrades.
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    Can anyone tell me what the stock seatpost length of a 29er 0 is? I can't read my post and can't find the the info on the Giant site.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Do you have a tape measure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Do you have a tape measure?

    I have a tape measure. Bunch of other tools, too.

    Not sure what point to measure to. Care to divulge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialClimber View Post
    I have a tape measure. Bunch of other tools, too.

    Not sure what point to measure to. Care to divulge?
    Giant site says "Seatpost Giant Sport, 30.9" - I think that is inches.

    On another note, those witht the Suntour XCT fork....can you hear the springs inside it? I kept hearing this noise, that sounded like plastic or something similar slapping around on jumps and what not, and couldn't figure it out. I think it is coming from the fork...I'm also getting a lot of play in the fork as well....and only after about 150 miles...

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    OK, I'm making my drivetrain purchase today, but was wanting a little advice.

    I'm picking up a Race Face Evolve crankset with BB this weekend for $30. I picked up a used Deore XT 9 speed rear shifter on eBay for $25. I'm converting to a 1x9 setup.

    I'm ordering an n-gear jumpstop, but I don't know the diameter of the seat post. does anyone know what that is on the 29er frame? I tried to measure it last night, but couldn't find anything to get an accurate measurement.

    I'm going SLX with the drivetrain...already ordered the Cassette in 11/34. I just want to make sure this will work with everything else with no real issues...I want to go with the shadow derailuer and short cage since I'm going 1x9. Amazon.com: Shimano America RD-M662 SLX 9-Speed Rear Derailleur: Sports & Outdoors

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    I'm ordering an n-gear jumpstop, but I don't know the diameter of the seat post. does anyone know what that is on the 29er frame? I tried to measure it last night, but couldn't find anything to get an accurate measurement.

    Thoughts?
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    I pulled my forks apart the other night. Not much to them. A rubber washer in one leg was totally destroyed and the leg was full of pulverized rubber. Cleaned it up and made another washer and re-greased and reassembled. My stanchions are a mess too. Both have wear marks that were very rough. I buffed them out the best I could with scotch-brite and the stiction seems a bit better. I can't wait to get new forks but don't want to part with the $$$ LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    Order the 34.9

    Ordered...thank you very much

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    I can't wait to get new forks but don't want to part with the $$$ LOL
    You know its going to be the biggest difference in how the bike performs too. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBrowntown View Post
    You know its going to be the biggest difference in how the bike performs too. :P
    I'm hoping so. I just bought the Raidon X1 LO-R 29" air fork. Looking forward to it as I'm sure I've destroyed the internals of my Suntour XCT...it squeaks, the pre-load adjust does nothing, it just spins and I can hear the springs popping and pinging when I'm riding. And it doesn't even have 200 miles on it yet.

    I don't really blame the fork, it wasn't intended for everyday use with jumping and dropping etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBrowntown View Post
    You know its going to be the biggest difference in how the bike performs too. :P
    I know. Just cant decide what to get.

    Suntour Raidon X1-RL, best price using upgrade feature.
    RS Recon Silver Solo Air, really would like motion control.
    RS Reba RL, way out side my price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    I know. Just cant decide what to get.

    Suntour Raidon X1-RL, best price using upgrade feature.
    RS Recon Silver Solo Air, really would like motion control.
    RS Reba RL, way out side my price range.
    I just bought the 29" version of that Raidon...I'll report back on how it performs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    I just bought the 29" version of that Raidon...I'll report back on how it performs.
    I'll eagerly await your review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Giant site says "Seatpost Giant Sport, 30.9" - I think that is inches.
    It's mm's. That figure is the post's diameter, not length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    I know. Just cant decide what to get.

    Suntour Raidon X1-RL, best price using upgrade feature.
    RS Recon Silver Solo Air, really would like motion control.
    RS Reba RL, way out side my price range.
    I went with the RS Recon Silver Solo Air on my revel....... It is so much better than the stock Suntour. I don't know about the Raidon, but if you go with the recon, you'll love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bc3xx0 View Post
    I went with the RS Recon Silver Solo Air on my revel....... It is so much better than the stock Suntour. I don't know about the Raidon, but if you go with the recon, you'll love it!
    Thanks for the input.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Just picked up a Race Face Evolve XC crankset with an XTR BB90-A BB for $30.

    Now to just wait for my other stuff to come in for my 1x9 conversion :-D

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Not riding again until my new fork comes in. Today I was out hitting the trails with my kiddo and going over some nice easy jumps when my fork seized in the low position. Caused me to throw my weight over the bars and then the bars turned 90 degrees. Over the bars I went.

    Not much worse than having the air knocked out of you in front of your kid while you pretend to be a walrus because you can't breathe.




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    Yikes! That looks like something is really tweaked. I hope your new fork comes soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    Yikes! That looks like something is really tweaked. I hope your new fork comes soon.
    Should be tomorrow or the next day

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Got my Raidon X1 in. It's very nice and quality. Looks good, it's getting put on tomorrow. Can't wait to try it this weekend.









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    Sweeet.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    She's baaack!

    1x9 conversion, Deore shifter, SLX chain and cassette, SLX shadow medium derailleur, Race Face Evolve XC crankset with race face bash guard and ngear jump stop, Raidon X1 air fork and new grips.

    Everything for less than $350.

    Haven't taken it around the trails yet, but feels like a totally different bike around the neighborhood.



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    Looks terrific. Enjoy the new setup!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    Everything for less than $350.

    Nice!

    Y'know, I find it curious that so many MTB-ers are fond of upgrading the components on their bikes and these upgrades, oftentimes, aren't strictly functional. I come from a road bike background and just recently picked up a new Revel 29r 0 (matte black). The FIRST thing I did was to replace the grips and saddle. Both components were chosen in red to make my Revel a bit more distinctive. When it comes time to replace the cables I'll get new housing, in red, of course. I would have never thought of approaching upgrades on my road bike like that, but without being told I went straight to upgrades that were as individualistic as they were functional.

    Very weird.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    The bike is like a new bike. My daughter and I went on a 6 miles trip and it was nice. Nice a smooth, no more bouncing... What a great feeling.

    Tomorrow is our big day, where we have 13 miles planned so I'll get to use the bike a lot more.

    The fork is nice, and the drivetrain is virtually silent.

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    I noticed the same thing with my 1X9 setup with the X9 meduim cage RD. Very quiet now. The stock setup slapped around all over the place.

    We are snowed in so I'm off the bike for a while. :~(

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSocialClimber View Post
    Nice!

    Y'know, I find it curious that so many MTB-ers are fond of upgrading the components on their bikes and these upgrades, oftentimes, aren't strictly functional. I come from a road bike background and just recently picked up a new Revel 29r 0 (matte black). The FIRST thing I did was to replace the grips and saddle. Both components were chosen in red to make my Revel a bit more distinctive. When it comes time to replace the cables I'll get new housing, in red, of course. I would have never thought of approaching upgrades on my road bike like that, but without being told I went straight to upgrades that were as individualistic as they were functional.

    Very weird.

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    It's a disease called upgraditis, and there is no cure.

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    Hey folks, I'm looking at stepping my son up from his 24" bike to a Revel 1 26" - does anyone have a weight on a stock Revel 1? Anyone familiar enough with the bike to say what I'll need to be on the lookout for with it? I suspect the brakes will be an issue but what else? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotharyus View Post
    Hey folks, I'm looking at stepping my son up from his 24" bike to a Revel 1 26" - does anyone have a weight on a stock Revel 1? Anyone familiar enough with the bike to say what I'll need to be on the lookout for with it? I suspect the brakes will be an issue but what else? Thanks.
    I have the Revel 1 29er.

    I have replaced everything except the frame and wheelset, not all because they needed it.

    IMO, the drivetrain and front fork are first on the list.

    Take advantage of suntour excellent upgrade program and get an air fork. I'd say do this first.

    After spending this money though, you may be better getting him a Talon or a XCT from the beginning.

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    Well, my wife has a Talon 0, and he can ride that, because it's a small frame. But he's not quite 11 years old, and frankly the 29" wheel is just too much for him. He's uncomfortable on it because of the wheel size. I am, honestly, disappointed by the lack of a quality entry level 26" bike, not just in Giant's line up, but universally. The closest I can get is some stuff on bikes direct, but I'm a fan of buying local, which limits me to Giant or GT at my favorite shop, or Cannondale or Scott at the other local shop. My wife also put a hard limit of $700 on a bike for my son, but that should be enough to get a bike without compromising. Unfortunately ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotharyus View Post
    Well, my wife has a Talon 0, and he can ride that, because it's a small frame. But he's not quite 11 years old, and frankly the 29" wheel is just too much for him. He's uncomfortable on it because of the wheel size. I am, honestly, disappointed by the lack of a quality entry level 26" bike, not just in Giant's line up, but universally. The closest I can get is some stuff on bikes direct, but I'm a fan of buying local, which limits me to Giant or GT at my favorite shop, or Cannondale or Scott at the other local shop. My wife also put a hard limit of $700 on a bike for my son, but that should be enough to get a bike without compromising. Unfortunately ....
    Get him a Revel 26" then and see how he rides it. They are good bikes, just not meant for aggressive riding.

    I'd say either way plan to upgrade the fork with Suntours upgrade program though. Best thing I've done to mine, and for $175 you can't go wrong.

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    Saw you at Alafia today as you got back to the trailhead, we were just getting ready to head out. Didnt want to be that weird guy that yells "Hey Krunk_Kracker its akaBrowntown from the internet!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBrowntown View Post
    Saw you at Alafia today as you got back to the trailhead, we were just getting ready to head out. Didnt want to be that weird guy that yells "Hey Krunk_Kracker its akaBrowntown from the internet!"
    Haha... You should have totally said something!

    Another user said hello and called me Krunk_Kracker at Carter Rd a few weeks ago.

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    Re: Revel Thread

    Not a Revel, but just picked up a near mint Giant Boulder SE for my Fiancee for $150 off of CL.

    It'll be ridden every weekend, and she won't ride anywhere near as aggressive as I do so I think it'll be perfect.

    It was a battle, but I managed to keep her from buying a budget bike from Walmart long enough for me find a decent bike for a good price on CL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotharyus View Post
    Hey folks, I'm looking at stepping my son up from his 24" bike to a Revel 1 26" - does anyone have a weight on a stock Revel 1? Anyone familiar enough with the bike to say what I'll need to be on the lookout for with it? I suspect the brakes will be an issue but what else? Thanks.
    My stock 26" Revel 1 weighed 31.13 pounds. I personally think the most important upgrades for it are the fork, brakes and tires (stock ones are not very grippy for steep climbs). Overall, I think it's a decent entry level bike. Mine takes a fair bit of abuse.

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    Thanks Oakeshott. That seems pretty workable. Honestly, by the time my son is ready to move on from this bike, my daughter will probably be about the right size for it, and she may never out grow it, so I'm not going to have an issue with upgrading stuff that needs it - plus my son can mow the yard and upgrade whatever he wants to, if that's what he chooses to do

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    Oakeshott, is that the Minute Expert fork? Care to offer a quick review? Thanks

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    @Cotharyus: No problem. Glad to help.

    @eff:
    It's actually a Manitou Match Comp 100mm. I've ridden with it twice now so my opinion on it may still change. It rides a lot smoother than the stock suntour fork. I noticed how much faster I can ride downhill through small bumps and roots thanks to the adjustability of the absolute + and stiff 32mm stanchions.

    For the trails I ride on, the suntour fork had to go because it didn't have rebound dampening and I didn't like the "pogo stick" like bounce it had.

    I would imagine the Minute Expert would be an even better fork than the Match. It's also a pound lighter which is a huge plus imo.

    Here's a link to a more detailed review:
    Mountain Bike Fork Review: Manitou Match Comp

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    Thanks Oakeshott

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    Did some biking in the snow today around my yard. A lot of fun. Hopefully I can get off tomorrow and head out to some trails.




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    Although Krunk_Kracker gave the Raidon a glowing review, I decided to get the Manitou Minute Expert. With all the research that I did, I was impressed with the ABS+ damper and decided to go that way.

    It's a really nice fork, but I have yet to ride id due the weather up here. This weekend we plan to get out and ride, so I am really looking forward to testing the forks out. I'll post a pick this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eff View Post
    Although Krunk_Kracker gave the Raidon a glowing review, I decided to get the Manitou Minute Expert. With all the research that I did, I was impressed with the ABS+ damper and decided to go that way.

    It's a really nice fork, but I have yet to ride id due the weather up here. This weekend we plan to get out and ride, so I am really looking forward to testing the forks out. I'll post a pick this weekend.
    What's the price of that fork?

    I bought my Fiancee a Marin Hawk Hill, and everything but the fork is great on it. I'd like to replace it soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunk_Kracker View Post
    What's the price of that fork?

    I bought my Fiancee a Marin Hawk Hill, and everything but the fork is great on it. I'd like to replace it soon.
    It was $315. Manitou Minute Expert QR Fork 2012 at Price Point

    Twice what the Raidon would have cost me, but you only live once. LOL

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    Well here are a couple of pics.




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