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    Though not a World Cup, but this is the general look/geometry of an XtC frame with the skinny 80mm SID. Yes, it is a bit "flexy" but would work just fine on most single track in my area. The SID is light but sad to say that it only has a few more days on this frame before it gets replaced by an F100. Just waiting everyday by the window for the local FedEx guy to stop by my house.
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    is an 07 STP2 worth $749.99 Canadian? theres a bike shop about 1/2 an hour from my house with that deal. i think thats around $715 American, but i'm not sure about the conversion. Are there gunna be 08 STP2's coming out like within the next 2 weeks, or are they coming out in like November?

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    i came so close to buying a 80mm sid for my build but i'm pretty glad i didn;t the r7 i've got isn't much heavier and shouldn't flex as much. looking good though

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    Quote Originally Posted by newagebiker
    is an 07 STP2 worth $749.99 Canadian? theres a bike shop about 1/2 an hour from my house with that deal. i think thats around $715 American, but i'm not sure about the conversion. Are there gunna be 08 STP2's coming out like within the next 2 weeks, or are they coming out in like November?
    Yeah they normally sell for $1000 Aussie dollars.

    $750 Canadian is $836 Aussie, you're getting just over 15% discount of rrp which seems a pretty reasonable deal to me.

    http://www.sicbikes.com.au/en-us/pg_126.html

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    Oh yeah, for conversions into any currency check this link out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newagebiker
    i think thats around $715 American, but i'm not sure about the conversion.
    Google '750 CAD in USD' or use xe.com. Google says CAD750 is USD699.95.

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    My Rincon

    Heres my Rincon








    Before you say anything, the weeds have been taken care of, haha.

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    This is my 2005 Rainier built from the frame up!

    My build is all parts from ebay some new and some used. The only part I did not install is the headset as the frame I bought all ready had one pressed in. Everything else was done by me with only a few minor problems, a few scraped and bloody knucles, a bunch of cursing and a few tense moments with the spouse when she tried to help.

    Frame- Giant Rainier
    Headset- Aheadset
    Fork- Maniotu Black w/adjustable travel 80-100 (not sure what year)
    Stem- Bontrager
    Handlebar- Bontrager Crowbar
    Crankset- Truvativ Blaze
    Front Der.- SRAM Gen X
    Rear Der.- SRAM X7
    Shifters- SRAM X7 Triggers 8 speed
    Wheelset- Sun Rhyno Lite w/ XT hubs
    Cassette- SRAM PG850 11-32
    Chain- SRAM PC58
    Rear Brake- Gator Mechanical (so far works great with no problems)
    Front Brake- Gator Mechanical
    Brake Levers- Avid Speed Dial 5
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    My XtC1

    My 2005 XtC1 hardtail. I love it to bits!
    It's pretty much a stock 14" XtC frame, but I've added a women's specific seat, Candys, and a black Hope QR seatclamp

    First pic is my bike
    Second pic is me racing in the Karapoti Classic
    Third pic is me racing in the New Zealand National XC Series
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    Some minor upgrades









    Giant XtC Team frame
    Rock Shox SID World Cup
    Truvativ Team bar,stem and seatpost
    Truvativ FireX Team cranks
    SRAM XO GripShift and RD
    SRAM 9.0 FD
    Avid Juicy 7
    SRAM PG990 11-32 cogs
    SRAM PC 991 Hollow pin chain
    Exustar pedals
    Alligator shifter housing
    Kenda Nevegals 1.95 front
    Kenda Karma 2.0 rear
    alex dp17,14g spokes,pivit SL hubs wheelsets....will be replaced soon by AmClassic hubs,Revos,X317 rims
    i hate biking!

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    nice. any idea of weights now? how do you find the sid - flexy??

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    its a large frame @ 21. last i weighed it was still @ 23lbs with the big culprit being the wheelsets and tires. had the hydro cables cut yesterday (around 20 grams or more saved) and got some Alligator Serrated rotors (less 40 grams from the original Avid wavy pair).





    will have the carbon steerer tube cut to about 8 1/2 inches soon to shred off at least 15-20 grams more.

    probably build the Am Classic-X317-Revos (should hit 1400++ grams) wheelsets this weekend and see if i can hit the 22 mark (i know,its a long shot)
    i hate biking!

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    Oh the SID, hmmm being a 170lbs rider thats wimpy on technical DH sections,it seems fine.havent noticed the infamous "Flex" on the SID.i guess im not riding hard like before. but i have to admit, i really miss my old Reba which can be banged around without any worries and i miss the floodgate so much.
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    Here is my 02' XTC SE1 PRO frame with mammoth upgrades!

    05' Crossmax XL Disc Wheelset
    06' FOX F100 RL
    06' Dual control XTR Hydro brakes/shifters
    Easton EC 90 handlebar
    Easton EC 70 seatpost
    06' XT hollow-tech two piece cranks
    crank brothers egg-beater SL pedals
    XT front dérailleur
    XTR rear dérailleur
    Thomson elite stem
    SRAM PC990 Cassette
    SRAM PC990 Chain
    AVID Juicy seven disc rotors
    WTB laser saddle w/TI rails
    Hutchinson python tubeless tires

    Approx weight = 24 lbs
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    on a rainy afternoon.

    Hydro cables cut already.will have steerer tube cut as well this weekend to save a lil bit more weight.

    new wheelsets built by monday. im still deciding which tires to get. want to try out the Tioga Red Phoenix 1.8 @ 400+ grams full knobbed

    then its time to weigh and be depressed ;D
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    STP's Rock!!!

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    i'm just waiting on the wheels and the crankset on my new xtc build. ended up spending a bit more on some of the parts than i originally intended but then again i did save a heap buyin stuff from ebay. will definatley get some pics posted as soon as the wheels are fitted but heres the spec list. Everything has now been bought and fitted except the wheels and cranks, build cost came in at around £1400 GBP.

    Frame 07' XTC Team 19"
    Seatpost clamp stock
    Crankset Middleburn RS7 Duo Blk
    Handlebars KCNC Scandium
    Headset FSA Intergrated
    Grips ODI Ruffian Lock On
    Stem 110mm Ritchey WCS
    Seat Post Syncros 400mm
    Saddle Selle Italia SLR
    Bottom Bracket SKF
    Chain KMC SL9
    Headset spacers No Name Carbon
    Pedals Eggbeater SL
    Forks 07' R7 Super 80mm
    Brakes (F&R) Magura Marta SL
    Cables (Gear) Shimano XTR
    Shifters 07' Sram X-9
    Cassette Shimano XT 11-32
    Front Derailluer 07' Sram X-9
    Rear Derailluer 07' Sram X-9
    Skewers Kore
    Wheelset Dt Swiss 240 Hubs / 4.2d Rims
    Supercomp spokes / wheelpro built
    Tyres Kenda Small Block 8
    Tubes Ritchey Pro Lite

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyTurtle
    My '06 Rainier. Stock except for Time ATAC pedals.


    That Is what I have... Well I have Eggbeaters on mine...

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    This is my 06 Giant Yukon, was a 24 speed but upgraded to 27.

    Upgrades:

    -Rockshox Tora 318 Solo Air w/motion control,
    -Deore fd,
    -SRAM pg9770 cassette,
    -Shimano HG73 chain,
    -Truvativ Firex LR cranks and GXP bb,
    -FSA Pig headset,
    -Crappy Kalloy stem (but so much lighter than stock stem),
    -Easton setpost and WTB saddle- currently fitted with Geax slicks.

    As of tomorrow I am upgrading to a Jamis fs, but this bike has been great.

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    My new toy:



    I really love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisherceg
    My new toy:

    I really love it!
    What's that seatpost? Looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by akashra
    What's that seatpost? Looks great!
    USE Alien Aluminum

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    A couple of teaser shots:



    Waiting on the cranks before I can finish building it.

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    looks good akashra.

    all i'm waiting on is cranks also, was holding out for a middleburn duo but been waiting for around 5 weeks now and i'm getting inpatient. probably end up with a race face deus or 07 xtr i think.

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    "Akashra" Nice ride! What wheelset are you running?

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    The current wheelset consists of Mavic XC717 Disc rims, DT Swiss Champion spokes, Shimano XTR (M965) hubs, with alloy nipples on the rear and brass nipples on the front.
    That will, in time, go on my training bike or singlespeed, with the new one being an XC717 or American Classic, M975 hubs, alloy nipples, and DT Swiss SuperComps.

    Not exactly the lightest.

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    New Giant in the house!
    Got a '07 Giant Alias for my husband - 17" frame fits me too
    The trance is mine. I rode the Alias yesterday, it's maiden dirt ride (yeah hoping to get hubby into mtb and riding a lot more).

    Obviously it has a lower bb than the Trance (Trance has 130mm fork though) so have to be careful not to hit the pedals too much. It takes getting used to lifting the butt off the saddle again. The Dart 2 is pretty harsh compared to my Tora, but not too bad - I suppose could use a softer spring for my weight. Other than that overall it wasn't too harsh for a hardtail, felt very controllable through a rough rocky creek bed and in a lot of ways it was easy to keep up momentum. It weighs about the same as my Trance if not a tad more so it didn't really feel any more nimble. Obviously the cockpit was more stretched out too (I'm running a 50mm stem on the trance) but felt pretty balanced. Oh and the SDG saddle was surprisingly comfy for the hours ride.

    Overall I'd be happy with a bike like that, obviously a shorter stem would be mandatory so I would feel more comfortable in mucking around on it - attempting a few small jumps / drops and the like.

    Specs; All stock apart from
    tires: CST Flatfighters (by Maxxis) is what the LBS recommended after I asked to switch out the Hutchinson to some 2.1's. When I got home & slimed the tubes I found the tires weighed over 1kg each! So front is now a Michelin Hot S 2.2, and the CST still on the rear.
    Pedals: got some cheap platforms: Half Step by Mosh Bikes
    Requested to swap out X7 triggers for X7 twist shifters instead.


    Only other thing I'd love to do is change it out to 1x9 gearing - but will have to see if hubby needs the other gears first. It would be easy to lighten it up by getting magnesium pedals, lighter tire in the rear and of course something better for the stem / post/ bar. However it's hubbys bike and such upgrades are not warranted unless he starts riding more, if this happens the first thing I would upgrade is the fork.



    Pictures don't seem to be working for some reason, maybe I'll try links then!

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    Mine's a stock 06 Alias, so rather than a close up of the bike, here it is parked at the Lake Buragorang lookout in Blue Mountains NSW Australia on my ride last Sunday. Great bike. Great rides!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodpuddle
    Mine's a stock 06 Alias, so rather than a close up of the bike, here it is parked at the Lake Buragorang lookout in Blue Mountains NSW Australia on my ride last Sunday. Great bike. Great rides!
    I had a look at the geometry chart, and the Alias has exactly the same geometry as the XTC!

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    my giant

    mcm team full carbon
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducktape
    I had a look at the geometry chart, and the Alias has exactly the same geometry as the XTC!
    have never ridden an XTC, but it must be pretty sweet!

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    took my new xtc out yesterday for it's first longer ride and ended up doing 35 miles. All i can say is its fantastic - just what i was looking for as a second bike and race bike. I'l get some pics up later on but i'm so glad i decided to build it.

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    Well, after months of searching for the best parts are reasonably prices (ie, without paying stupid amounts), the new toy has finally been completed.


    Russell at <a href="http://www.bikenow.com.au">BikeNow</a> did a great job putting it together, ensuring the cable routing was nice and neat and properly sized, and that the geometry was all set up nice and perfect for my height. We'll still have to play around with the pressures in the fork etc when a chance arises but so far it certainly looks good.

    For those wondering what's gone onto it, here's the list:

    Frame 2007 Giant XTC Team
    Seatpost clamp Giant OEM
    Crankset Shimano FC-M770
    Handlebars KNC Scandium
    Headset Integrated FSA
    Derailleur Hanger Giant Alloy
    Grips Ritchey Speedgrip V
    Stem Syntace F99
    Seat Post Thomson Masterpiece 350mm 7degree setback
    Saddle Selle Italia SLR
    Rear light
    Bottom Bracket Shimano FC-M770 Integrated
    Chain Shimano Dura-Ace CN-7701
    Headset spacers Giant Carbon OEM
    Gear cables/housings Shimano XTR UN-41
    Pedals Xpedo Ti/Ti
    Front Fork Manitou R7 Super w/Vbrake bosses
    Front brake lever 2007 Avid Juicy 7
    Front brake caliper
    Front disc rotor Shimano BR-M975
    Rear brake levers 2007 Avid Juicy 7
    Rear brake caliper
    Rear disc rotor Shimano BR-M975
    For geared:
    Shifters Shimano SL-M970
    Cassette Shimano CS-M970 11-34T
    Front Derailluer Shimano FD-M970
    Rear Derailluer Shimano RD-M971-SGS


    Front skewer XXF Titanium
    Rear skewer XXF Titanium
    Freehub Shimano FH-M965
    Front hub Shimano HB-M965
    Rims Mavic XC717 Disc 32H Black
    Front Spokes DT Swiss Competition
    Rear Spokes DT Swiss Champion
    Tyres Maxis Crossmark eXCeption 120TPI
    Tubes Giant (Kenda) 1.25-1.50/1.75-1.95

    Yeah, they're the brand new Shimano XT cranks you see there which look sweet as.

    Unfortunately it was only 7 degrees when I got home, so really couldn't bring myself to go out for a test ride - especially since I'll need to tighten the pedals appropriately etc and fiddling around in the cold wasn't exactly my idea of fun.

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    looking good akashra, bet it was worth th wait. mine certainly was, also surprised how similar out builds ended up. I'l get some pictures posted soon for comparison.

    You'll love riding it when you do get the chance, the slr seats are pretty "firm" though....

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    My Giant STP2

    heres my giant STP2

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    DJ4 forks
    Hayes mechs
    Kona DJ seat
    Truvativ team riser bar and stem
    crap paint job
    13.5 inch frame
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    my xtc co

    I have just put this together. 10.3kg with crap forks and crankset. Any opinions 80mm or 100mm is better for this frame as i want to upgrade at some stage
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    i've got 80mm on the front of my new xtc team and i think thats the best option as thats what the geometry was designed for. The bike is an xc race bred bike after all and 80mm should be suffice. My opinion anyway.

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    My Alias

    Hey,

    Here is my stock Alias, Had it for a month and already starting to scratch it. Top bike though, If you feel something on the bike would be good to upgrade feel free to let me know as I'm new to all this

    Sorry couldn't get the pic, but you can see it on the giant website if you don't know what it looks like
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    Hey Cagz,

    How are you finding the Dart 2 fork? And how much do you weigh?

    I find it too firm for my 65kg, but the Alias is really my husbands bike so when he finally gets around to riding it I'll see how it goes. For me we'll I can't use more than 50% of it's travel.
    Just asking so I can judge better how it is for him because at this stage I expect he won't tell me much (to him a bike is just a bike).

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    Dart 2

    Hi there,

    Yea, I'm about 67kg and I find I don't use more than 50% without playing with the adjustment, maybe they are like that so heavier people can use them, I actually like them a little firm as i feel more in control of the bike. My theory for suspension is not to damage my bike and not for my comfort at the moment hehe. The one thing I'm finding it when it's locked out there is still some movement

    I would like better shocks in the future though, but the funny thing is that good ones are more than half the price of my bike

    Im not an expert but hope that helps
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    Dart 2

    I'm about 95kg, but also don't use all the travel on the Dart 2. I've probably got close once or twice, but after my average ride it tends to look like I've hit about 75-80% only. I pretty much stick to trails and don't hit big drop offs or anything, but I think overall it is a very firm fork. I agree with Cagz though: firm fork gives me a good feeling of control.

    I do think the lockout works pretty well. You might get a tiny bit of movement, but nothing like enough to dissipate pedalling effort.
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    Thanks, that gives me a good idea. I'll have to get hubby to jump on the scale & the trail and then maybe see if different spring rates are available for it and what the cost is. The fork is probably one of the first things I would upgrade, something plusher would make for a nice ride. But we'll see how often hubby gets around to riding it first. I reckon a better idea is that I upgrade my fork & give him the tora
    I did notice that in the specs for the '08 Alias it did say something about "custom spring rate" in regards to the Dart 2, so it could well be worth investigating that option - particularly for yourself Cagz. I know with other more expensive forks you are able to buy a spring specific for your weight range.


    I rode his bike on one of my usual one hour rides which includes a pretty rocky creek bed. I must say that the control of the Alias seemed as good as the Trance, if not maybe a bit more precise as you had more feel for the trail. I kind of expected to be bumped around a lot more. Dual suspension comes down to comfort and I'd say probably more control on rough and steep downhills rather than general riding.

    It was kind of funny in a way, having ridden a dually exclusively for the past year, hopping on a hardtail, I kind of felt like I still had suspension (placebo effect or a combination of deep tread in the heavy ass tire (CST Flatfighter) absorbing some impacts as well as saddle flex). It's just a case of learning to lift your butt more though! And needless to say the acceleration felt not so much faster just more direct.

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    Man I'd get your bike just for the looks, it's hot, there is one on ebay for AU$2300 no bids but it's too big 4 me, do they have lock out on the rear? I also Like the anthem 0, But like you said if its just for comfort, I don't think I need dual, But sometimes i want one anyways he he

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    And if you only had a dual you'd probably be wanting a HT again. One bike is just never enough, best way is to get one of each, I reckon it would save a lot of money due to changing out to something else every so often.

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    that sounds like a plan, but then I have to choose which one to take out???? he he

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    thats whole reason i bought my xtc. i've got a cannondale prophet but missed the hardtail feel and wanted something racey so decided to build something on a budget. shame it didn't work out that way.....

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    that sounds like a plan, but then I have to choose which one to take out???? he he
    Yes I think a lot of people would like to have that kind of dilemma

    thats whole reason i bought my xtc. i've got a cannondale prophet but missed the hardtail feel and wanted something racey so decided to build something on a budget. shame it didn't work out that way.....
    I toyed with the idea of building up a bike for my husband (ebay parts etc). But I knew that it would be very very hard for me to do with $800 (Au) particularly being used to having nicer gear on the Trance. Lol it's hard to resist upgrading the Alias to my liking now as it is,


    But my husband wants to buy a Landcruizer Ute (Pickup Truck in your part of the world) so we struck a deal recently, he gets a ute now instead of much later down the track and I get a new bike at the end of the year. Probably won't be something out of the Giant range this time though, since we're moving to a place more hilly than here (an much closer to real mtb tracks) something from the Norco Shore range (Hardtail) as I would be keeping the Trance.

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