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    Giant Talon 2007

    Fresh from the box - stock at the moment. Any suggestions for component/parts upgrades would be fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcusthecarcus
    Fresh from the box - stock at the moment. Any suggestions for component/parts upgrades would be fantastic.
    Danm, already built up. I wish someone could give us a weight on the Talon/Alias frame

    My first upgrade on the Talon was to Avid Juicy 7 brakes; I also have an XTR/Mavic XC717 wheelset for racing, using Larsens/Crossmarks. The next upgrades are Easton EC70 Seatposts and EC70 Monkeylite handlebars - should be here by the end of the week, early next week at the latest. After that I'll be putting a Manitou R7 on it.

    Current weight with the XTR wheelset is I think about 11.8. The R7 should bring it to just over 11. The Tora is a 2.4kg fork - heavy. And the Rhyno Lites... not so light.

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    Talon Upgrades

    Thanks for the recommendations. Yes - the weight of the Talo/Alias frame would be great?

    I'll check out these listed parts online - quite expensive in NZ I'm guessing.

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    Here's my Rainier. Stock except for pedals, wheels, and saddle.
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    1998 ATX 890 Tomac frame

    This is mine, 1998 ATX 890 John Tomac frame. Oldie, but a goodie! Pic sucks, taken with my cell phone.

    XT Crank, FD and cassette, SRAM X9 RD and XO Grippers, Crossmax ST's with Michelin UST tires, Single Digit 9's.

    Also have a 2006 XTC C2 composite frame I was going to build, but I think I'm going to sell it. Too small for me.

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    2001 Rincon Hartail

    I started out on this one...

    Now has Minute 2:00 fork, Easton stem/bar/post, LX cranks, Deore Drs, Bontrager wheels...

    A bit of Frankenstein machine but works for me.
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    minor revision. 05 Reba Team U-Turn fork. still on the process of getting the silver wheelsets done....
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    My ex-XtC



    Now I know that it was a mistake to sell this bike...

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    Hello from Russia!
    My new race bike $)
    Fork - Reba Team, custom paint.

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    My Trance 1 needed a little brother, so this is what i built up...


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    My '06 Rainier. Stock except for Time ATAC pedals.


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    2007 Giant XtC C

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    Oh yeah, theres not a front der. on the bike in this pic, it was on order (Sram x9...or should I have gone xtr?)

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    black fork... not cool...

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    nice bike! it'll be 20 flat or less if that excess steerer tube is cut.
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    hey thanks man. yeah i'm gonna cut it down to exactly where i want it soon. I just got the fork, so I wanted to be sure of where I wanted to put my stem before I cut it. I'm still playing around with different stack heights. I also plan to put on a lighter crankset. I've about had it w/ race face cranksets.

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    Sold my Faith earlier this week and picked up a STP yesterday
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    2006 Giant Yukon
    Specialized 90mm stem and narrower flat bar
    Tektro Aquila rear brake - after the Hayes MX-2 died

    She's heavy, but she's my first real bike.

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    it seems HT's are no longer favored nowadays. everybodys going the FS way. not much posts here.
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    I got cought-up with the FS technology since day one, then last year I went back to HT but this time with carbon HT.

    I think carbon, Ti and scadium material's the way to go with HT frame. To be honest I'm happy at the moment until something comes up of course.

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    Here's my race machine...


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    I ride a 2004 Boulder SE. Her name is Bethany.

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    i'l get pics of my xtc posted just as sooon as i built it!

    07' xtc team, white manitou r7 supers.......... (can't wait)

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    Sweet, my XTC Team frame arrived today. It's going to take a while until its built though.


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    you already got a cool color scheme going! keep us posted!
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    Just an update. The new wheelset....


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    what size is your frame akashra? and 80 or 100mm forks?

    pretty much identical looks wise to what i;m getting! thanks for posting the pics. keep them coming.

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    new XtC composite edition from Russia $)

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    19" Frame with 100mm forks. Realistically, this geometry should use 80mm forks. No biggie on the 19 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akashra
    19" Frame with 100mm forks. Realistically, this geometry should use 80mm forks. No biggie on the 19 though.
    i went for the 80mm in the end, thought i'd go as racey as poss due to it being my 2nd bike. looking good anyway bud, i'l get pics posted of mine when f&f arrive

    nice composite xtc above mind, wish i could have afforded that lol

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    Updated pic.

    Swapped out to a heavier fork, plus a couple other changes.

    20lbs 1oz as shown. 04 19" carbon/alum hybrid. Snag'd the frame off Ebay a couple years ago.

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    My 07 STP 2, the first day I had it and it's covered in mud already

    I love this bike!





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    An almost stock 'O4 Iguana.

    (Changed components: the reboundless fork, plastic pedals, uncomformable saddle, rusty "riser" iron handlebar, knobby tyres and of course the rusty, worn-out chain. 2 in 1 shift/brake levers separated.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazac
    An almost stock 'O4 Iguana.
    Helló, lazac! Itt is nyomulsz?

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    My '07 XTC Team

    Here's my XTC Team, hot off my basement assembly line:




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    thats at least three of us on here with the exact same frame radare think your the first to build it up though. mines still in bits in my room.

    what size frame? fork travel? seatpost length? and how big are you?? sorry for the questions jst still getting parts for mine, and looking at seatpost length at the min along with stem length.

    you ridden it since the pics? how was it. looks good. not too sure on risers and bar ends though. sorry.

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    ... and if we just ...

    Quote Originally Posted by disco_stu
    thats at least three of us on here with the exact same frame radare think your the first to build it up though. mines still in bits in my room.

    what size frame? fork travel? seatpost length? and how big are you?? sorry for the questions jst still getting parts for mine, and looking at seatpost length at the min along with stem length.

    you ridden it since the pics? how was it. looks good. not too sure on risers and bar ends though. sorry.
    I am 6'0" tall and weigh in at just over 150 lbs. The frame is the 19" (M) version of the XTC Team (Taiwan). I'm running a Black Platinum fork with 100mm of travel. The seatpost is a 350mm version, 30.9 mm (I'm afraid to use adapters with the thin aluminum of the frame).

    Here is what I used for the initial build:
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    Frame: Giant XTC Team 19" Medium
    Fork: Manitou Black Platinum 100mm (Steerer tube cut to 8.5")
    Headset: Cane Creek IS-6 w/ carbon spacers and topcap
    Stem: Kore lite, 105 mm w/ 10 degree rise
    Bars: Titec Hellbent XC, uncut
    Grips: Cane Creek
    Bar Ends: Scott Nightstix
    Wheelset: Ritchey OCR Disc w/ XT Centerlock Hubs
    Tires: Panaracer Fire XC Pro
    Brakes: Hayes MX-2 mechanical
    Rotors: Shimano XT Centerlock
    Shifters: Shimano XT Rapidfire w/ dual release (M760)
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT (M760), 34.9 clamp
    Rear Derailleur: SHimano XT (M760) Normal Low
    Chain: Shimano HG-93
    Cassette: SRAM PG990 (this may be temporary)
    Crankset: Shimano XT (M760) w/ Hollowtech 2 BB
    Pedals: Crankbrothers Candy C
    Cables: Avid Flakjacket
    Seatpost: SETTE APX 30.9mm
    Seat: Selle Italia Trans AM Fokus

    The bike weighs in at just over 21 lbs, even with the disc brake setup. I have put about 35 miles on the bike, since building it, though mostly on smooth singletrack (no bouldering or logs yet as I'm still breaking it in) and it rides well. It's a shorter frame than my Rockhopper and corners like it's on rails. The frame feels great too, more like the old Cromoly frames than I had expected.

    Don't worry about not liking the riser bars or ends; those sort of things are a matter of taste. I mostly ride long singletrack rides (20 to 40 miles at a time) and the slight sweep of the bars really helps reduce hand numbness.

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    thanks for taking the time to post all of that, i appreciate it. definatley helps seeing what other people are doing with the same frame.

    haven't posted pictures of mine yet, but its identical to the one posted on the page before but with 80mm forks instead.

    here (apologies for the pic);


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    Quote Originally Posted by disco_stu
    thanks for taking the time to post all of that, i appreciate it. definatley helps seeing what other people are doing with the same frame.

    haven't posted pictures of mine yet, but its identical to the one posted on the page before but with 80mm forks instead.

    here (apologies for the pic);
    Thanks for the picture; looks very familiar . I'm planning on riding the 100mm Black for a while but setting a bit aside for a Sid WorldCup 80mm fork. I just could't foot the expense for it at this time. I'm also thinking I'll ditch the Fire XC's for a slightly thinner set of Michelin Comps.

    When you build up the frame, keep a file on hand to clean up the rear disc brake mount (if you go with discs) as mine had quite a thick collection of paint in this area.

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    i know the feeling, the wallet has nevr been so empty thought doing myself a second bike like this, i'd be able to gradually build it up as i go along. completly not the case! can't stop myself spending.

    i'd noticed the paint on the disc mount, taking it to my LBS tommorrow anyway to get the bottom bracke shell faced, so may see if they have tool for that whilst i;m down there.

    will keep the thread updated anyway as i progress

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    over 21lbs???!

    Quote Originally Posted by radare
    I am 6'0" tall and weigh in at just over 150 lbs. The frame is the 19" (M) version of the XTC Team (Taiwan). I'm running a Black Platinum fork with 100mm of travel. The seatpost is a 350mm version, 30.9 mm (I'm afraid to use adapters with the thin aluminum of the frame).

    Here is what I used for the initial build:
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    Frame: Giant XTC Team 19" Medium
    Fork: Manitou Black Platinum 100mm (Steerer tube cut to 8.5")
    Headset: Cane Creek IS-6 w/ carbon spacers and topcap
    Stem: Kore lite, 105 mm w/ 10 degree rise
    Bars: Titec Hellbent XC, uncut
    Grips:
    Bar Ends: Scott Nightstix
    Wheelset: Ritchey OCR Disc w/ XT Centerlock Hubs
    Tires: Panaracer Fire XC Pro
    Brakes: Hayes MX-2 mechanical
    Rotors: Shimano XT Centerlock
    Shifters: Shimano XT Rapidfire w/ dual release (M760)
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT (M760), 34.9 clamp
    Rear Derailleur: SHimano XT (M760) Normal Low
    Chain: Shimano HG-93
    Cassette: SRAM PG990 (this may be temporary)
    Crankset: Shimano XT (M760) w/ Hollowtech 2 BB
    Pedals: Crankbrothers Candy C
    Cables: Avid Flakjacket
    Seatpost: SETTE APX 30.9mm
    Seat: Selle Italia Trans AM Fokus

    The bike weighs in at just over 21 lbs, even with the disc brake setup.

    Really?!



    this is what i have and i cant even break the 24 pound mark.

    07 Giant XtC team frame (Size 21)
    06 Rock Shox Reba SL
    Truvativ Team bar,stem and seatpost
    Truvativ FireX Team cranks
    07 SRAM X7 triggers.FD,RD
    07 Avid SL levers
    Avid BB7 discs
    SRAM PG990 11-32 cogs
    SRAM PC 991 Hollow pin chain
    Exustar E-PM25 pedals
    Alligator brake/shifter cables/housing
    Kenda Nevegals 1.95 front Karma 2.0 tires rear
    Selle Italia Initiale saddle
    alex dp17,14g spokes,pivit SL hubs wheelsets....


    what am i doing wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by radare
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    Here is what I used for the initial build:
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    Bar Ends: Scott Nightstix
    Wheelset: Ritchey OCR Disc w/ XT Centerlock Hubs
    Tires: Panaracer Fire XC Pro
    Brakes: Hayes MX-2 mechanical
    Rotors: Shimano XT Centerlock
    Shifters: Shimano XT Rapidfire w/ dual release (M760)
    Front Derailleur: Shimano XT (M760), 34.9 clamp
    Rear Derailleur: SHimano XT (M760) Normal Low
    Chain: Shimano HG-93
    Cassette: SRAM PG990 (this may be temporary)
    Crankset: Shimano XT (M760) w/ Hollowtech 2 BB
    ...
    Seat: Selle Italia Trans AM Fokus

    The bike weighs in at just over 21 lbs, even with the disc brake setup. ...
    I seriously have to doubt that 21lbs, the parts I've left listed in the quote are boat anchors! I mean seriously, there's nothing lightweight on that thing - how the hell can it be 21lbs. Even my full XTR build with an R7 comes in at 22lbs. Admittedly I have an M750 crankset for now, which is 1.1kg with the BB, but changing that to an XTR would only just get it to ~21lbs (9.6kg).

    Of course, if I'm wrong, nice work!

    Edit: here's a link to the spreadsheet with my build
    http://zero.racetime.com.au/files/bikeparts.xls
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    ""what am i doing wrong"..

    Nothing. Theres absolutely no way that bike weighs 21lbs with the components listed. Zero chance. I'd be checking the scale. Good looking bike tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xctofi
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    this is what i have and i cant even break the 24 pound mark.

    07 Giant XtC team frame (Size 21)
    Add a few (100)g for a 21 over a 19
    Truvativ Team bar,stem and seatpost
    A Syntace F99 will save 30g here, 10g if you go to a Ritchey WCS
    Truvativ FireX Team cranks
    There's 1-200g there by going to an XT or XTR (M760, M770 or M970)
    07 SRAM X7 triggers.FD,RD
    XTRs will get you another 40g
    07 Avid SL levers
    Avid BB7 discs
    SRAM PG990 11-32 cogs
    SRAM cassettes are boat anchors, though I must admit I've considered going to a PG990 myself. 290g vs 265g for an XT, 240g for an XTR 11-14, 224g for an XTR 11-32
    SRAM PC 991 Hollow pin chain
    Exustar E-PM25 pedals
    Alligator brake/shifter cables/housing
    Kenda Nevegals 1.95 front Karma 2.0 tires rear
    These things are like 640g each! That's more than Hutch Barracuda or Michelin XC! Obviously tyre choice depends on terrain - *most* of the time I'm now running Maxxis Crossmark eXCeptions - they're 480g each - that's 150g to save in rotating weight
    Selle Italia Initiale saddle
    Swap to a Selle Italia SLR and you've saved what, 200g? That's half a pound right there!
    alex dp17,14g spokes,pivit SL hubs wheelsets....

    what am i doing wrong
    Do any of these comments help? I know I've picked on things like 30g, but when you think of it as 5 components at 30g each, that's a half pound saving.
    Just some things to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akashra
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    Do any of these comments help? I know I've picked on things like 30g, but when you think of it as 5 components at 30g each, that's a half pound saving.
    Just some things to consider.
    they sure do help wanted to go for a 2nd hand SID WC to cut down on weight more but im afraid they're gonna be too noodley for a 6ft 175 lbs rider.

    but did you notice,i dont have any Shimano parts? SRAM stuff all the way! true they are not the lightest but they sure work and are made better than Shimano's IMO. and the exceptional customer care SRAM gives is another topic.

    the weight of the other bike just caught my attention specially having a Manitou Black fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xctofi
    they sure do help wanted to go for a 2nd hand SID WC to cut down on weight more but im afraid they're gonna be too noodley for a 6ft 175 lbs rider.
    I was originally going to get a SID World Cup, but Some Guy talked me out of it. What got me was how noodly they are, and he's probably 10lbs lighter than me (I'm around 145lbs).
    I'm just disappointed that the R7 I bought has VBrake bosses on it, wasting about 40g and sticking out/looking ugly.

    Quote Originally Posted by xctofi
    but did you notice,i dont have any Shimano parts? SRAM stuff all the way! true they are not the lightest but they sure work and are made better than Shimano's IMO. and the exceptional customer care SRAM gives is another topic.
    I must admit, I do like SRAM chains. I'm also tempted to go to a PG990 after my M970 cassette wears out - at the very most I'll go to an M760 cassette, as the extra $100 for XTR just isn't worth it.

    But I do honestly believe my Talon shifts better with the SRAM PG950 cassette and PC970 chain than with an M970 cassette and HG93 chain.

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    akashra - looks like your builds coming on pretty well going by the speadsheet you've done.

    You'll have to get some pics posted up soon.

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    i have some nice pics of my iguana but i can't seem to get them to post maybe later

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    Argh. Well, looks like it's going to be a while until mine gets built now - after getting the stem and handlebars ordered this morning, what I thought were the last parts on the list, I picked up my new rim - or should I say a new rim. But it's the rim brake version, so it looks ugly as... and it's significantly heavier - not the part I had ordered

    I know it might seem overly picky, but seriously, if I'm building it properly I want the right parts.

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    i'd be the same, whats the point in having something on there your not happy with, for the sake of waiting an extra week or so.

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