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    Ahhh, phew!

    I just broke mine and thought I was totally screwed



    Has anyone broken one of the new ones?

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    The new design also breaks

    The new design also breaks.

    I am very angry with GIANT

    I just broke my lower arm reign x3 2010 (new design) today. Xc ride a fairly smooth track. I was riding along and suddenly felt very soft suspension.
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    I was afraid of that. I ride mine hard as hell and it has not broken yet. Hope it doesnt break on me tomorrow. Going on an epic 24 miler in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valetropic
    El nuevo diseño también se rompe .

    Estoy muy enojado con GIGANTE

    Sólo me rompió el brazo inferior de mi reinado x3 2010 ( nuevo diseño ) hoy en día. Montar una pista de xc bastante suave . Estaba pedaleando a lo largo y , de repente, la suspensión sentí muy suave.
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    I am very angry with GIANT

    I just broke my lower arm reign x3 2010 (new design) today. Xc ride a fairly smooth track. I was riding along and suddenly felt very soft suspension.

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    Here we go again...

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    Wow. I thought it was just the Reign XOs that were having the problem
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    Yesterday for the third time, my prized giant has left me lying in the middle of a tourist route with my friends, we had traveled 150 km drive to make a circular route of 40 km.por bike a beautiful place.

    the only thing my dealer tells me is that every time it breaks, it changed under warranty, but I think this problem goes beyond, for damages of not knowing when you're staying in the left half of the mountain. GIANT should change these frameworks, and not hide the problem because it does not answer to my multiple emails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valetropic
    Yesterday for the third time, my prized giant has left me lying in the middle of a tourist route with my friends, we had traveled 150 km drive to make a circular route of 40 km.por bike a beautiful place.

    the only thing my dealer tells me is that every time it breaks, it changed under warranty, but I think this problem goes beyond, for damages of not knowing when you're staying in the left half of the mountain. GIANT should change these frameworks, and not hide the problem because it does not answer to my multiple emails.
    Totally agree !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by valetropic
    Yesterday for the third time, my prized giant has left me lying in the middle of a tourist route with my friends, we had traveled 150 km drive to make a circular route of 40 km.por bike a beautiful place.

    the only thing my dealer tells me is that every time it breaks, it changed under warranty, but I think this problem goes beyond, for damages of not knowing when you're staying in the left half of the mountain. GIANT should change these frameworks, and not hide the problem because it does not answer to my multiple emails.
    That happened to me a few months ago. I went on a trip to Brianhead and the link snapped on the first day. That weekend sucked!

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    In Spain many cases are appearing.


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    It makes me sick thinking about it. Probably the most expensive bike I ever purchased and it ended up being a lemon!

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    If the new links are truly breaking then Giant needs to step up and recall these frames and give us our money back. Its a bummer because I love my RX. My link is still in one piece. my original did not break nor has the updated one. Yet.

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    Well it's only just the one new link that has broken, and Giant had him send it in to analyze...
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    i think it is also dependant of rider's weight?
    whats your weight? above 70kg?

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    I weigh 90 kg., so I bought this bike stronger than others.

    Regards,

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    they probably deisgned the frame for asian people who weighs less than 70kg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydesg
    they probably deisgned the frame for asian people who weighs less than 70kg
    Lousy thinking you have there, bro!
    If they designed it only for asian people, why they sell this model to non-asian countries? Do you think Giant must put sticker on frame that says "this frame is only for asian people"
    What's the problem here was the design, and most probably they never do several rigid tests of this link, before they mass produce and release it.

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    i was just being a little sarcastic.

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    I'm wondering if that link would hold up better if it were cnc machined instead of forged and welded. If it becomes an issue for me.. which it has not yet. I would consider taking the link to a machine shop to have one made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofarider1
    I'm wondering if that link would hold up better if it were cnc machined instead of forged and welded. If it becomes an issue for me.. which it has not yet. I would consider taking the link to a machine shop to have one made.
    Really depends on the metal they are using. In the best situation, forging can be effective in making metal stronger in some directions. Especially cold forging. Of course the opposite is often true as well. Fatigue is often different from ultimate strength as well.

    I wonder if many people would be interested in CNC'd links? I could probably model it up in an evening if I had one to work with (sans bearings). Hint..Hint...Krispy If I had a whole bike as well I could probably design one stronger in a couple evenings. Of course it would probably be $100-150 each if I sold them. It would be very helpful to know the material they are using beforehand as well. A quick hardness test on the new link would tell us for sure. Then we would know if we had a high probability of making it a lot stronger. There are several options that are better for fatigue then 6061 and a few better then 7075.

    Since I'm still on a '07 frame I would need some interest to make this worth the time. I guess we'll see if anyone else has a failure of a new link.

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    I have an extra of the old version as a back up. My LBS replaced the old one and let me keep it. I highly doubt that the link will break on me as I am in the lightweight "asian" category. I would consider sending it to you as long as I get it back with a "discount" on a cnc'd one.

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    im definitely interested in the cnced version.

    Sofarider1, how heavy do you weigh?

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    Saw this posted somewhere in this thread and this is where this evil lies It's a fvcking AM/Light FR bike for christ sake, loosing a few grams on the link is not going to help anyone go faster or climb better, but obviously Giant is listening to it's customers and trying to drop weight in stupid places instead of using common sense and good engineering.

    I mean seriously, just look at that link, it anemic as hell, how could anyone expect that little bit of material to hold up to the stresses put on it? As to those wondering why it's breaking on climbs, just consider what the suspension does under load while heavy pedaling - the suspension tries to resist pedaling input, not nearly as bad as the old NRS, but basically does the same thing which is why they pedal/climb so well.

    Did the previous Reigns have ISG tabs? I have to wonder, because that's the only area I see these links breaking at - where the material is removed to accommodate the ISG tab.

    How much do the new links weigh compared to the old?
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    I weigh 155 so probably 165 with gear.

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    Broke mine today riding uphill on tarmac - luckily it was a few moments just before entering the trail..
    I'm about 88kgs all geared up, on size medium.
    Wish me luck dealing with the Greek importer. I'm still waiting for the spare derailleur hanger I ordered 10 months ago.

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    in glory 2010 or 2011 have this problem too?

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    Smile Reign X broken Link Why it is broken ?

    Hello friends
    I have investigated the subject for my case after i broke 2 links and i found
    Why it is broken ?
    I found that the front Derailleur gives a hit to the link and broken him in the situation of Rear Shocks press to the maximom.
    The front Derailleur need to adjust more higher in then it will not give strikes to the link
    In order to examine if you have the problem ? Please will withdraw the air from Rear Shocks and press down the bicycle and examine if the front Derailleur touching to the Link ..if yes adjust the front Derailleur more higher until it will not touch to the link
    I hope that will help at least to several of friends here.

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    While the front derailleur may be able to hit if not adjusted properly, many if not most of the people with this issue have their front derailleur properly adjusted high enough. I hope you now have the new link and this never happens for you again, but the cause is not that.

    BTW - I've never seen an issue with the Glory or any other Giant bike with this type of link. Each design is different. My '10 Glory has been solid. I'm pretty sure this is specific to the Reign X.

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    Reign X broken Link

    This does not exist in the trance X or Glory or other giant due to that even that the front Derailleur is adjust lower that not touching to the Link then is never broken

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    hard to believe the derailer would be stronger than the suspension link???
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    While I agree that your derailleur was set too low, I don't agree that it is the main cause for the failure. I know too many people who properly adjusted their derailleur not to hit, and yet still broke the link. When my '07 RX had the derailleur set too low the link would move it off alignment on impact. This occurred several times before I bothered to check why and fix it. The link never got any visible damage but was bashing the crap out of the derailleur.

    The '10 design was flawed and Giant has designed and delivered a stronger replacement. If you were right they would have instead issued a statement about proper front derailleur adjustment. Hopefully the one failure of the new link is the only one we see.

    That said, I hope all owners of all suspension bikes would hear what your saying and properly adjust the FD. Aligning with the chainring is just one step in proper adjustment on the frame.

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    I just saw my second reign x link break on a friends 3 month old 2010 reign x1 just yesterday on a supposedly new link. imho the reign is an awesome riding bike, but as great as the reign x is, its a shame that it is so flawed with this link issue. I also have another friend who has a chip in his link on his reign x0 from what looks like the derailleur bracket making contact with the top of his link. Sooner or later someone is going to get seriously injured due to a link breaking and giant is going to end up getting sued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alebbarros
    in glory 2010 or 2011 have this problem too?
    Not mine (2010), and I'm 210 and ride it pretty hard...

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    Well I broke another link. That would be 2 in the three months I've had my X1. I am beginning to think that giant should do some thing like exchange frames for new redesigned ones. Perhaps ones that don't break in the same spot for everyone.

    I was thinking. If the frame didnt have the top hole for the iscg tab and it had just the top of the BB tube right there there would be no need to have the link machined out. The bike would still work the same but then there would not be a need to machine out half of the link. And you would still have 2 places to attach the Anti Rotation Screws for the Chain guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomaswildchild
    Well I broke another link. That would be 2 in the three months I've had my X1. I am beginning to think that giant should do some thing like exchange frames for new redesigned ones. Perhaps ones that don't break in the same spot for everyone.

    I was thinking. If the frame didnt have the top hole for the iscg tab and it had just the top of the BB tube right there there would be no need to have the link machined out. The bike would still work the same but then there would not be a need to machine out half of the link. And you would still have 2 places to attach the Anti Rotation Screws for the Chain guide.
    Read this thread unless you broke the redesigned version that every Giant dealer should be swapping out for their owners free of charge. If you just broke a replacement for your old one then go get the new design installed ASAP. And since you are on it, by all means make sure that your front derailleur doesn't touch the link in any front gear position and with the shock completely compressed as hard as possible with no air in it.

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    I was wondering the same thing...are the recent broken links the new design?

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    Who is the fatphreehealer guy? I don't think he even owns a 2010 RX. Though, I bet he dreams about it every night and wishes with all his might he could go back in time and buy his friend's with the mind blowing custom tuned rear shock and the kung-fu grip.

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    Yes, I have the indestructible, but tank like '07 RX. I do wish I had the '10, you know I do Bags, but it would have been a pain to convert my rear wheels to work. You didn't offer me the kung-fu grip option, that might have swayed me

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    I've broken 3 of the 2010 lower links on my X and each time I’ve broken them it's been from pedaling forces. The most recent one I broke happened while I was trying to climb up a steep slope with large stair step rocks. When my rear wheel made contact with the rock, I applied pedal force to clear over it and this is when the right side of the wish bone lower link broke (right where everyone else’s does). Unfortunately I was 12 miles deep on an out and back ride so I had little option but to chance riding all the way back on the half way broken link. It held the entire 12 miles. In all three incidents of breaking the link, the left side has never fractured along with the right, resulting in me crashing or having to walk back. My advice is when your way out on a ride by yourself and you come to a section of trail that requires a lot of hard, torquey pedaling forces, just walk. It is not worth breaking your lower link just to clear one short section of trail. However, if you do break your link, just go ahead and ride the thing back, the left side is strong and should hold. In fact, I once broke my link at Winter Park, Colorado (while pedaling) and proceeded to do 3 more lift access runs with rocks, roots, and jumps; all on a broken link.

    I am currently waiting on my first 2011 link and have high expectations that I will be able to forget about my lower link forever.
    However, if the 2011 link is breakable, I will definitely find out about it firsthand.

    My brother bought the 2011 Reign X, so I will keep you posted on how my new link works and how his link works (on the 2011 frame).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasinoKiD
    I was wondering the same thing...are the recent broken links the new design?
    If, also breaks the new design.

    Giant should change the frames. but the Reing X 2011 is identical
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    Anyone else here from Australia? Giant Australia are still giving me the cold shoulder about this issue.

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    one more from Italy....




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    guys, what Moshe says makes total sense if you look at what he says and pictures again,

    i went through this thread and all the linkages are broken on their right side [derailleur side]

    so.. why not atleast check again about what he says? it makes total sense.

    when the linkage fully compresses, its not that the derailleur has to be stronger than the link, each time it hits the link its "eats" another bite from it, making it weaker at the same spot until it just breaks.
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    had this break after having built the SLX crank with bash for which I moved the derailleur ... probably little that was used for contact

    the fracture occurred in a race

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    The derailleur may hit the link but that is not what snaps them, I was running a Hammerschmidt(no front Derailleur) and broke three links with that setup. They snap under load when climbing...Look at the very first post, we talked about it then. Giant just needs to give everyone a new frame and take this P.O.S. back! Giant sent out a new link just before Interbike, it seams like a Band-Aid so we would not say anything about it at the event. I Love the way the bike rides when it works but I can tell you this much, I will never buy another Giant after this experience!
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    I also broke 3 links. I let the air out of the shock and compressed the bike fully. The front derailleur never touched the lower link. It's obvious the break has to do with the weak area of the link where they cut out some of the material. All three of my breaks were also under high torque situations.

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    Fabione-, ¿Is the new enhanced?
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    No: the "original"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabione-
    No: the "original"

    of your photo is not the original,

    this if it is original.

    a greeting.
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