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    New Trance Owner

    So I've been searching for a FS frame for a little while and have loved the reviews of the trance but couldn't find one(either a frame or bike) for the right price until I walked into my LBS today. Seems they decided to put a left over trance 4 out on the floor and it just happened to be my size.

    Price Tag: $799.00 - I couldn't resist. It was sitting side by side w/ yukon Fx priced at $850.00. I went home, grabbed my new burton snowboard and brought it in for a deposit.

    I will go back and take some pics before I start swapping parts off my hardtail. I should be able to loose about 2lbs right off the bat.

    And a new build begins!
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    stock as can be photos


















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    Congrats!

    Not something to worry about immediately (I don't think), but I remember reading how the early Trance frames had bearing issues. You might find this useful:

    Trance bearings

    When do I change bearings in my trance?

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    Ya, I saw those. I'm going to replace them this coming winter. They'll be fine for right now though.
    Thanks.
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    Upgrades / swaps:
    Conti Mountain King 2.4 supersonics F+R - upgraded
    Ergon Race Mag - upgraded
    Shimano Deore XT RD - upgraded
    WTB mp250 clipless - swapped over
    Easton EA70 flat bar - swapped over - not sure about this one yet as I don't have enough ride time on this swap to decide, I may cut the EA30 riser bar down about 2-3".
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    6 to many sideway pics....I'm dizzy now.
    Regroup and just give me at least 1 full shot of your bike.

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    haha sorry about that they were the only ones I had until today. Here's a pic along the river.


    Modified the upgrades and swaps a little bit.
    Currently running michelin XC AT 2.0's until my Conti's come in on Tuesday. Ended up swapping my old wheelset(TerraMax) onto the bike for the extra rim width. Switched back to the stock riser bar but cut it down to about 635mm. XT rear derailleur will go on Tuesday as well. I love the Ergons.
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    A set of Avid BB7 disk brakes would be a great upgrade and cost very little. Great deal on the bike especially considering the price of the Yukon.

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    Next to come. Working on putting an XT set together. Got calipers and levers so far. Still need hoses and rotors.
    Had to do the Ergons first to try and alleviate some numbness I was getting. Worked great. My left hand doesnt get numb at all anymore and it took 10 miles for my right hand to start to get numb just a little bit but I think theres something underlying in my arm causing that.
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    Upgrade to Deore XT rear derailleur complete.

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    Updated photo w/ xt disc installation complete(minus a few zip ties)

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    One sharp looking bike...good job.
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    Updated specs:
    Blue = current upgrades
    Red = currently building package

    MODEL: Trance 4 - US
    SIZE: 18"
    COLOUR: Slate
    FORK: Marzocchi XC600 TST Micro 140mm
    SHOCK: Fox Float R(240gr)

    WHEELS:
    FRONT HUB: Forte disc
    REAR HUB: Forte disc - about to grenade anyday, need a new hub!
    SPOKES: 14 Stainless Black - relacing rear w/ DT 2.0/1.8
    RIMS: Forte TerraMax 24.7mm
    F TIRE: Michelin XC AT 2.0 or Kenda Telonix 2.4 dtc
    R TIRE: Michelin XC AT 2.0 or Kenda Telonix 2.4 dtc
    SKEWERS: American Classic QR

    STEM: Easton 105mm x 6
    BAR: Easton riser Cut 1" off each end(-20gr)
    POST: Easton
    GRIPS: Ergon Race L w/ Magnesium bar ends
    SADDLE: WTB Rocket V(300gr)
    HEADSET: FSA Ahead Integrated

    F BRAKE: Shimano XT m765
    R BRAKE: Shimano XT m765
    ROTORS: Disco Brakes 160mm round
    LEVERS: Shimano XT m756
    CRANKSET: Truvativ FireX 22/32 w/ BBG Bash Guard
    PEDALS: Stock Plats and WTB mp250 - 260gr.
    CHAIN: Shimano w/ Sram gold connector
    FREEWHEEL: Sram stock

    F DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore LX(177gr)
    R DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore XT m760 long cage
    F SHIFTER: Shimano Deore
    R SHIFTER: Shimano Deore
    OTHER: n/a

    WEIGHT: around 32 or so

    ADDITIONAL INFO (Any Extra comments / accessories):
    Rider: 240lbs, male
    Mostly aggressive XC / light AM and some Freeriding, 3-4' drops max, lots of rock climbing

    UPGRADES TO COME SOON:
    lighter bar, lighter 70-90mm stem, lighter seatpost, new rear wheel!
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    so, I was curious as to how much affect adding the 140mm Marzocchi XC600 would have on the Trance as far as geometry goes.

    Heres what I came up with:

    Fork Height: 480mm to 507mm
    HA: 70.5 to 69.17 (-1.33 degrees)
    SA: 73.5 to 72.17 (-1.33 degrees)
    WB: 1084.58mm to 1093.9mm (+9.3mm)
    TT(effective): 589.28mm to 593.5mm (+4.3mm)
    BB Height: -10mm to 0mm (+10mm)
    Reach: 410.6mm to 397.1mm (-13.5mm)
    Stack: 575.2mm to 584.6mm (+9.4mm)

    Compared to a 2005 reign 3:
    HA: r69.5 to 69.17(-.33)
    SA: r73.5 to 72.17(-1.33)
    WB: r1109.98 to 1093.9(-16.08mm)
    TT: r589.28 to 593.5(+4.22mm)
    Turns out to be slightly slacker in the head angle and quite a bit more slack in the seat angle while keeping a shorter wheelbase and an ever so slightly longer top tube.

    Compared to a 2008 Kona Dawg
    HA: d68.2 to 69.17(+.97)
    SA: d71.7 to 72.17(+1.07)
    WB: 1092.2 to 1093.9mm (+1.7mm)
    TT: d604.52 to 593.5(-11.02mm)
    Having test rode the dawg I found that the head angle was just slightly slacker than I like. However I did prefer the seat angle over my trances. The numbers prove what I was thinking when I rode the bike.
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    Nice Bike! Now get out and ride

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    i picked up the same frameset off cl the other day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LenMcC
    i picked up the same frameset off cl the other day.
    Nice, hope it builds well for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XT_
    Nice Bike! Now get out and ride
    only everyday!
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    Hey Zach,

    Nice bike. I have the same exact bike (same color) And same deal. Local LBS had some left overs and couldn't pass up the deal. I only really wanted the frame set.

    Only things original is frame, seatpost and seat and handlebar (love wide bars!) Put a Zoco roco air 3pl, Shimano lx cranks with bashguard, Manitou minute elite 120mm
    Juicy 7 brakes, Mavic deetrack wheelset(I know super heavy but soo much fun!)
    It's a mini all mountain/FR bike now. Climbs like a billy goat but still bombs down stuff.

    Let me know how you like that xc600 at 140mm? After riding the 120mm I wish I ponied up the 140mm version when I had the chance....

    If I get off my lazy butt. I'll post pics someday...........

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    still waiting for the fork to come back from marz. It was a friends and came off his 08 dawg, who blew the tst2. Sent it in for warranty and marz is upgrading to the tst micro damper. Got a deal I couldn't pass up on it. It was basically brand new when the tst2 damper blew. I'll let you know how it rides.
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    I am 5'10" 220lbs and I ride the same bike. I too have upgraded the crap out of it. I have a minute 3 IT 130MM, Full 08 XT drive train, avid codes, mavic 325 rims with conti 2.4 MK converted to tubeless with stans. riding with 130mm up front is fine. I have taken this thing to Whistler and raced multiple XC races as well. I went to silver mt. in Idaho this weekend and now need a new seat post though... Oh, BTW those bearings at the top of the rear triangle love to blow I am about to order a second set from enduro seals.

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    can anyone describe the noise they make when they go? I am talking about the original bearings.
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    How do you like those bar ends? I am thinking about picking up some for my Trance X0.

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    As for the bar ends... They are pretty nice. For out of the saddle sprinting they ROCK! Perfect size and positioning. It took a bit to get used to the shape of the bar end at first, it's a much more natural gripping shape than I was used to(used to use control tech shorty's).
    However,
    I haven't used them a whole lot on trails, mostly just on the road from trail to trail or on an occasional long fire road stretch. I do love the grips though and the combo really compliments itself. Would I recommend them? Absolutely.
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    Update on bike:
    Now running a Kenda Telonix 2.4 dtc on the front and a Kenda Excavator 2.35 dtc on the rear. WOW, WOW, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! Completely satisfied w/ this combo.


    Considering stripping the paint and having something cusotm done this winter. Might look into a royal blue fade to brushed aluminum or white. Thoughts and opinions?
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    New fork will be in by Friday. Will post a new pic after the new forks installed.

    Picture update:


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    ..........modded both the telonix and excavator. loving it!
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    Ah you suck!
    I've been looking for that style Trance but could not find it in my size or price and i settled on a BMC Fourstroke (couldn't be happier BTW) just 2 weeks ago.

    Why isn't the Float included? Also what bike did you buy?

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    Nice work on the bike....

    Any clearance issues with the rear tire?

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    still haven't completely decided to sell yet but am looking at an 05 Foes FXR for stupid cheap. A friend ordered a new foes and made me a ridiculous offer on his old one. I don't know yet if Im going to take it or not but its there if I want it.

    I have a friend here that needs this particular size shock for his jamis and I told him that if I sold the bike I would keep the shock for him. However, he is in need of a new fork first and is kinda broke so for the right offer I would be inclined to include the shock.

    Hollywood33:
    I have had no clearance issues at all with the tires. It does like to gather dry leaves in the rear triangle however, but it did that w/ the 2.0 michelins as well. I was even able to run the 2.4 in the rear without incident also.
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    so I decided to keep my Trance and make a few more changes.

    Looks like I'll be adding a Pike 454 dual air and a new set of wheels. I wanted the New revelation air uturn 120mm-150mm but they got me a way better deal on the pike and its less than a quater pound difference but I loose the uturn ability. No biggy I dont see myself using it that much here anyways.

    Not sure what I want for wheels yet as there are just numerous options out there and my head is spinning w/ the choices.
    I have my local shop looking into several closeout models such as Easton Havoc AM and Mavic Crossmax sx. They are also looking into Sun Charger and Str8track sets too. All quality sets.
    Then on top of that I have been toying around with the idea of building a custom set through BWW or CRC. They have great prices and I could potentially come away w/ a lighter / less exspensive wheelset. Does anyone else know of other custom sites such as these where I can just go and select stuff? I'm going to look into the stans site right now. Looking for welded rims with a width somewhere between 27 and 30mm OD, disc specific witht the ability to haul around 240lbs through aggressive XC and Light AM use. Trying to stay under 1900gr for the set w/ 20mm front hub and standard 135 QR rear.
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    wiggle?
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    Wiggle has a great deal going on the hopes built into dt5.1's w/ db spokes. I just hope they still have some left when im ready to order. 320 shipped. no argument there. Theyre only qr versions but its only around 30 bucks to upgrade when Im ready to.
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    upgrades

    i have the same frame- i bought a 2007 trance 3 about 8 months ago, such a nice bike to ride.
    i have upgraded it quite a lot though, mainly to braking original components.
    Broken components:
    front juicy 3 brake
    rear stock hub
    chain
    chain rings (worn out
    cassette worn out
    tyres - had useless kenda tyres as standard.
    2 rear mech drop out hangers

    new upgrades:
    Shimano slx on bigger rotor
    Hope 2 pro hub with Sram lightweight cassette
    DT Swiss 5.1 rim
    Sram chain
    Hollowtech 2 crankset (worn these chain rings out not originals)
    Race Face chain rings
    Maxxis High roller front & ADvantage rear
    Truvativ Husslefelt shorter stem (had a gay long stem-long stems suck)

    next upgrade:
    longer forks-either revelations, or fox 32's. gonna go 2nd hand so which ever one i can get best deal.

    i still love my Trance after 8 or 10 months and ride with people on 140 mm travel bikes no worries cos the maestro is awesome!
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    I ordered my new wheelset today. Went through CRC. Got the new 09 shimano xt m775 cl hubset w/ dt swiss competition db 2.0/1.8 spokes threaded w/ brass pro lock nipples to Mavic 719 rims. Should make a nice, reliable, trail wheelset that saves me about 3/4 of a pound. Also upgraded to a 203mm front rotor as the 160 just isnt cutting it. It stops good on the flats but over 20mph going downhill at my weight is a bit hairy.
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    Here is an updated list of the build as of today. Pics to follow when the new wheelset arrives.

    Updated specs:
    Blue = current upgrades
    Red = currently building package

    MODEL: Trance 4 - US
    SIZE: 18"
    COLOUR: Slate
    FORK: Marzocchi XC600 TST2 140mm
    SHOCK: Fox Float R(240gr)

    WHEELS:
    FRONT HUB: Shimano XT m775 CL
    REAR HUB: Shimano XT m775 CL
    SPOKES: DT Swiss Comp DB 2.0/1.8 silver w/ Brass pro-lock nipples
    RIMS: Mavic XM719 silver
    F TIRE: Modded Kenda Telonix 2.4 dtc - Tubed for now
    R TIRE: WTB Prowler XT 2.3 - Ghetto Tubeless
    SKEWERS: American Classic QR

    STEM: Easton 105mm x 6
    BAR: Easton riser Cut 1" off each end(-20gr)
    POST: Easton
    GRIPS: Ergon Race L w/ Magnesium bar ends
    SADDLE: WTB Rocket V(300gr)
    HEADSET: Cane Creek Integrated

    F BRAKE: Shimano XT m765
    R BRAKE: Shimano XT m765
    ROTORS: Shimano CL 203 front, 160 rear
    LEVERS: Shimano XT m756
    CRANKSET: Truvativ FireX 22/32 w/ BBG Bash Guard
    PEDALS: Stock Plats and WTB mp250 - 260gr.
    CHAIN: Shimano w/ Sram gold connector
    FREEWHEEL: Sram stock

    F DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore LX(177gr)
    R DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore XT m760 long cage
    F SHIFTER: Removed
    R SHIFTER: Shimano Deore
    OTHER: n/a

    WEIGHT: around 32-33 or so

    ADDITIONAL INFO (Any Extra comments / accessories):
    Rider: 240lbs, male
    Mostly aggressive XC / light AM and some Freeriding, 2-3' drops max, lots of rock climbing

    UPGRADES TO COME SOON:
    lighter bar, seatpost & 90mm stem.

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    Smile rear mech?

    Quote Originally Posted by zach.scofield
    Here is an updated list of the build as of today. Pics to follow when the new wheelset arrives.

    Updated specs:
    Blue = current upgrades
    Red = currently building package

    MODEL: Trance 4 - US
    SIZE: 18"
    COLOUR: Slate
    FORK: Marzocchi XC600 TST2 140mm
    SHOCK: Fox Float R(240gr)

    WHEELS:
    FRONT HUB: Shimano XT m775 CL
    REAR HUB: Shimano XT m775 CL
    SPOKES: DT Swiss Comp DB 2.0/1.8 silver w/ Brass pro-lock nipples
    RIMS: Mavic XM719 silver
    F TIRE: Modded Kenda Telonix 2.4 dtc
    R TIRE: Modded Kenda Excavator 2.35
    SKEWERS: American Classic QR

    STEM: Easton 105mm x 6
    BAR: Easton riser Cut 1" off each end(-20gr)
    POST: Easton
    GRIPS: Ergon Race L w/ Magnesium bar ends
    SADDLE: WTB Rocket V(300gr)
    HEADSET: Cane Creek Integrated

    F BRAKE: Shimano XT m765
    R BRAKE: Shimano XT m765
    ROTORS: Shimano CL 203 front, 160 rear
    LEVERS: Shimano XT m756
    CRANKSET: Truvativ FireX 22/32 w/ BBG Bash Guard
    PEDALS: Stock Plats and WTB mp250 - 260gr.
    CHAIN: Shimano w/ Sram gold connector
    FREEWHEEL: Sram stock

    F DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore LX(177gr)
    R DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore XT m760 long cage
    F SHIFTER: Removed
    R SHIFTER: Shimano Deore
    OTHER: n/a

    WEIGHT: around 32-33 or so

    ADDITIONAL INFO (Any Extra comments / accessories):
    Rider: 240lbs, male
    Mostly aggressive XC / light AM and some Freeriding, 2-3' drops max, lots of rock climbing

    UPGRADES TO COME SOON:
    lighter bar, seatpost & 90mm stem.

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    i notice you have changed your rear mech from LX to XT, do you find there is much difference between the two?
    i have been having a lot of problems with my LX and im quite sure its not the way im setting it up,it works on flat ground and with bike upside down perfectly, but has a mind of its own offroad,.

    i just put some 140mm fox floats on my trance looking forward to testing it on the wkend now
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyko
    i notice you have changed your rear mech from LX to XT, do you find there is much difference between the two?
    i have been having a lot of problems with my LX and im quite sure its not the way im setting it up,it works on flat ground and with bike upside down perfectly, but has a mind of its own offroad,.

    i just put some 140mm fox floats on my trance looking forward to testing it on the wkend now
    The original stock derailleur was a plain Deore. Adding the XT definately made a difference. Shifting is lighter, and quicker. Im having a few issues right now because I am in desperate need of a new cable but the shifting is much better and I dont ghost shift w/ this XT like it would w/ the Deore. Having the deore was like driving a car w/ an automatic tranny. It would shift on its own - very much a PITA.
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    Try the Gore Ride-On sealed cables for shifting, it's a nice system, shifts real nicely on my TranceX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown
    Try the Gore Ride-On sealed cables for shifting, it's a nice system, shifts real nicely on my TranceX.
    I have used the gore ride on system before and IMHO they are not worth the extra cash outlay for our conditions here. I still end up changing the cables at least once a season. I would serious spend less on a jagwire full length sealed teflon system and then just replace the inner cable as needed which is on par w/ the gore system. Only reason Im changing is because the cable is so frayed at the end thats its starting to pull out strand by strand at the mech.
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    Got the new wheels in yesterday. Going w/ silver hubs, spokes and rims w/ black nips sure was a good way to go. Looks very sharp on the blue. The 8" rotor up front looks great also.

    I couldn't have realized how much my other rear hub was dragging until putting the new wheels on. Unbelievable. CRC's build quality is excellent as well.
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  42. #42
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    Just put a new WTB Prowler XT on the rear, ghetto tubeless. Rolls super nice and feels pretty heavy duty. With any luck it'll grab really good too.

    My fork is on its way back from Marzocchi also so I should have it mounted by weds or thursday this week. Can't wait to slack the bike a bit.
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